Drake V Kendrick: Who Is Winning This Battle?
Summary
TLDRThe Breakfast Club radio show discusses the recent rap battle between Drake and Kendrick Lamar, which has seen both artists release multiple records over the weekend. The hosts share their opinions on the matter, with some believing Kendrick is leading due to his strategic releases, while others feel Drake's response to Kendrick's diss tracks was strong. The conversation also touches on the personal nature of the accusations made in the songs and the potential impact on the artists' public image. Listeners call in to share their thoughts, with some feeling the battle has gone too far, especially when it involves family and personal lives, while others argue that there's no such thing as going too far in a rap feud. The discussion highlights the cultural impact of the rap battle and the excitement it has generated among fans.
Takeaways
- 🎤 The Breakfast Club discusses a rap battle between Drake and Kendrick Lamar, highlighting the numerous records they released over the weekend.
- 🏆 Charlamagne believes Kendrick is leading due to his strategic moves, such as releasing music unexpectedly and quickly responding to Drake's tracks.
- 🎶 The discussion suggests that the rap battle has been a significant cultural event, with both artists being considered the best in their generation.
- ⏱️ There's a debate about whether Drake fed Kendrick false information to provoke a response, which could change the perception of the battle's dynamics.
- 🤔 Some members of the show express their discomfort with the personal nature of the accusations made during the rap battle, including claims about family and personal relationships.
- 🚫 The Breakfast Club crew disapproves of the level of animosity and the crossing of personal boundaries in the feud, finding it "whack" or distasteful.
- 📲 A caller named KP argues that there's no such thing as going too far in a rap battle, comparing it to a street fight where anything goes.
- 📉 Another caller, Remo, believes the accusations made during the battle were inappropriate, especially when they involve family and children.
- 🔥 The conversation also touches on the potential impact of the rap feud on the artists' images and the culture of hip-hop.
- 🌐 There's speculation about whether Drake or Kendrick has more records on the way and the potential for a collaboration between Kendrick and Rihanna.
- 📉 The overall sentiment is mixed, with some enjoying the entertainment value of the rap battle, while others express concern about the negative aspects and the possible end of the feud.
Q & A
What is the main topic of discussion on The Breakfast Club?
-The main topic of discussion is the rap battle between Drake and Kendrick Lamar, focusing on their recent releases and the strategies they employed.
Who does Charlamagne believe is winning the rap battle?
-Charlamagne believes Kendrick Lamar is winning the rap battle, citing strategy as the main reason.
What does the speaker born in 1978 consider this rap battle?
-The speaker considers this to be the best rap battle they have ever witnessed, due to the quality of the music and the back-and-forth nature of the releases.
What was the general consensus on the impact of the rap battle on the culture?
-The general consensus is that the rap battle has been beneficial for the culture, as it has produced a significant amount of music from two of the best artists in their prime.
Why did the speaker change their opinion on who was winning the rap battle?
-The speaker changed their opinion after Drake released 'The Heart Part 6', considering the possibility that Drake may have fed Kendrick false information to provoke a response.
What was the criticism regarding the personal nature of the accusations made in the rap battle?
-The criticism was that the accusations, such as claims of pedophilia and infidelity, were too personal and could potentially ruin the image of the other artist without substantial proof.
What was the caller KP's opinion on the extent of the rap battle?
-KP felt that there was no such thing as going too far in a rap battle, comparing it to a street fight where the intensity can escalate.
What did the caller Remo from Jersey think about the use of personal information in the rap battle?
-Remo believed that using personal information, such as revealing someone had a child, was crossing a line, even if the information was already in the public domain.
What was the caller Mike's stance on whether the rap battle went too far?
-Mike felt that both artists went too far, making serious allegations against each other that could have real-world consequences.
What was the caller Cory's opinion on the impact of the rap battle on the culture?
-Cory believed that the rap battle went too far because it involved a lot of hate and division based on accusations, which could lead to violence.
What is the general sentiment towards the rap battle from the callers and hosts of The Breakfast Club?
-The general sentiment is mixed, with some appreciating the entertainment value and the impact on hip-hop culture, while others feel the personal nature of the accusations was inappropriate and divisive.
Outlines
🎤 The Rap Battle Phenomenon: Drake vs. Kendrick
The Breakfast Club discusses the rap battle between Drake and Kendrick Lamar, highlighting the strategic release of their records and the impact on the culture. Charlamagne believes Kendrick is ahead due to his strategic approach, while others debate the authenticity of their claims and the potential for the feud to escalate. The conversation also touches on the personal accusations made during the battle and the listeners' reactions to the escalating situation.
🤔 The Limits of Rap Beef: Family Involvement and Public Opinion
The discussion continues with callers sharing their views on whether the rap battle has gone too far, especially with personal and familial accusations. Some feel that bringing family into the feud changes the landscape and is problematic, while others argue that there's no limit in a rap battle. The conversation also explores the potential hypocrisy of both artists and the role of public opinion in shaping the narrative of the feud.
🏆 The Cultural Impact: Drake's Alleged Strategy and Kendrick's Response
The dialogue delves into the cultural aspects of the rap battle, questioning Drake's cultural authenticity and Kendrick's stance on black empowerment. Callers weigh in on whether the artists' personal lives should affect their public perception and the importance of honesty in their music. The strategy behind Kendrick's approach is praised, and the potential for further records to be released is anticipated.
🌟 The Legacy of the Feud: Impact on Hip Hop and Future Predictions
The conversation concludes with opinions on whether the rap battle has divided the country and the potential for it to influence listeners' views on the artists. Some argue that the personal accusations have detracted from the musical aspect, while others maintain their support for Drake or Kendrick. There's speculation about future releases and collaborations that could further ignite the feud or bring it to a close.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Rap Battle
💡Strategy
💡Cultural Impact
💡Personal Accusations
💡Hip-Hop Culture
💡Underdog
💡Rap Feud
💡Artist's Image
💡Record Release Strategy
💡Public Opinion
💡Musical Misstep
Highlights
DJ Envy and Charlamagne discuss the rap battle between Drake and Kendrick Lamar, highlighting its impact on the culture.
Charlamagne believes Kendrick is ahead due to his strategic release of records.
The hosts agree that the rap battle has been the best they've ever witnessed, providing a lot of music to the culture.
Drake's response to Kendrick's diss track is seen as defensive, which some view as a loss for him.
There's speculation that Drake may have fed Kendrick false information to create a response, changing the dynamics of the battle.
The discussion touches on 'beige bias' and how it may influence perceptions of the artists involved.
The hosts express discomfort with the personal nature of the accusations made during the rap feud.
Listeners call in to share their opinions on whether the rap battle has gone too far.
Some feel that bringing family into the feud, including children, has crossed a line.
The conversation considers the authenticity of Drake's and Kendrick's backgrounds in relation to hip-hop culture.
A caller argues that Kendrick Lamar has been targeting Drake from the start, questioning the motives behind the rap battle.
Drake's ability to respond to challenges in his career is respected by the hosts and callers.
Rumors circulate that Kendrick has more records coming, and there's speculation about a potential collaboration with Rihanna.
The hosts conclude that despite the controversy, the rap battle has been entertaining and good for hip-hop culture.
The discussion emphasizes the excitement generated within the community due to the rapid release of new tracks from both artists.
The moral of the story, as expressed by the hosts, is a mixed opinion on the rap feud's impact, with some finding it entertaining and others feeling it was excessive.
Transcripts
[Music]
morning everybody it's DJ andv J
hilarious shamine the guy we are The
Breakfast Club if you're just joining us
we're talking about the rap battle Drake
and Kendrick they both released numerous
records over the
weekend uh regardless of of who you
think has it right now uh Charlamagne
believes uh Kendrick has it right now
right I I do I believe Kendrick is up uh
because of strategy I mean musically man
I don't think either one of these
Brothers is Mr beat I said it earlier
I'm I'm born in 1978 I'll be 46 uh next
month this to me has been the best rap
battle I've ever witnessed I agree
personally culture wins on this one I
mean the two best of their generation in
their Prime I've never seen a rap battle
give us this much music correct you know
like I said earlier every time one of
them dropped the other person answered
and and when the other person answered
they answered with some heat you know so
I think this is the best uh rap battle
that we've ever seen that's my my
personal opinion so you just ask who's
up I say Kendrick and it's just because
of strategy because Kendrick to me has
beaten Drake to every punch right like
he dropped 616 right after Euphoria we
weren't expecting that just because of
the way Kendrick puts out music we
wasn't expecting a back to back right
then Drake comes with Family Matters
which is I think is phenomenal but then
no less than 30 minutes later Kendrick
steps on that with his own record about
Drake's family meet the gr and then the
very next day you come out with a disc
Bop not like us we was expecting Drake
to come with the disc Bop yes and then
you know Drake came out last night with
the uh the Heart part six and I said on
Friday I said man if Drake replies to
616 sounding defensive explaining
himself then that's going to be a l and
he ended up having to come out and
defend himself to what was said on Meet
the grams and not like us to me that's
that's that that's a that's a that's a l
even though the even though he's rapping
his ass off that's a l see I disagree
see I had I had Kendrick up as a
yesterday before Drake released this the
heart record and and the reason it
changed for me is because I had to think
about it I'm like if if Drake actually
fed Kendrick information to go at him to
come back and be like you stupid I gave
you all that information and none of
it's true then it changes the game
because they both rapid rapid rapidy
rapid ass people but it's also what's
true and what's not true I think we love
push atigo on at Drake because it was
true we love when when HOV and Nas went
back and forth because you know we
thought it was true and if Drake did
that and none of it's true it kind of
makes you be
like you you rapping stuff that I gave
you kind of reminds me a little bit of
of what Eminem did in 8 Mile right well
this is where beige bias comes into play
no beige bias and the reason I say it's
beige bias cuz everybody in this room
everybody listening is smart enough to
know if Drake really did that that would
have been his immediate response to meet
the gr maybe maybe no it's no maybe
maybe not if I I fed you information and
you took the bait and made a whole
record and got this Alchemist beat and
you going in and you got the picture up
and all that I'm recording me feeding
whoever I fed that information to and
putting all that IM out immediately and
it's not going to take me almost two
days to reply to meet the grams and not
like us maybe maybe maybe maybe not I
think you given Kendrick benefit of the
doubt because you're light skin hater
what do you
think it's all
crazy I think it's all crazy and I'm I'm
just ready for both of them to stop now
like I really am well well it might be
over and the reason I say it might be
over because everybody was waiting for
Drake to do what Kendrick did and drop
this this bop right they were saying
Drake got this big hit record that's a
club record is for radio the more I
listen to Family Matters I'm thinking
that might have been that might have
been that record that might have been
Drake's bot that might have been the
record but it got stepped on because it
meet meet the grams and then Kendrick
came and beat Drake at his own game but
through all of that uh musically I think
this was great the only thing that I
don't like is uh and this is what we're
here to talk about this morning I don't
like seeing these brothers me toing each
other over a rap Feud okay to me that's
corny like if you going to call somebody
a pedophile if you going to call someone
a woman beat there you got to have some
real proof you're going to accuse you
know my friend and my girl of having a
baby and and and and me thinking that
that child is mine those some Havey
accusations and it's not like they
really trying to hold each other
accountable they just throwing these
types of accusations around the attempt
to ruin the image of the other and
that's whack to me other than that it's
been great well let's go to the phone
lines
hello who's
this this KP what's up man KP what's
going what's happening KP you you feel
like they went a little too far in this
brother no I feel man listen ain't no
such thing is going too far in a rap
beat bro like you know there like two
people fighting in like a street fight
somebody pick up a stick and start
hitting somebody say hold up hold up
hold up bro you going for blood but like
Charlamagne bro you said for a week
Kendrick you on the clock Kendrick you
on the clock
yes and then all of a sudden hey you
know when whenever he give us what we
wanted now all of a sudden it's too far
ain't no such thing as too far dog like
these are the two greatest of Our
Generation hands down like you know
Kendrick the pit surprise winner Drake
got multiple number ones and everything
what we thought was gonna happen yeah
but I didn't think you bring people's
families into it and their kids into it
it CH it changes it changes the
landscape yeah there's nothing I've seen
from Kendrick and Drake Over the last 15
years that would have made me think they
would went the hell on each other like
this because when you start talking
about my my girl when you start talking
about my kids when you start talking
about my household now it changes now
you know it's a problem but I'm still
never going to be down with men me toing
each other for rap beef like if y'all
knew about if y'all knew all of this
about each other and never called it out
until now when y'all having a rap Feud
then it's not real to me yeah let's not
act like they calling each other out
because they actually
care about the things that they're
saying they're doing that because it's a
rap Feud and you can point to either one
of them and see the hypocrisy and and
and and what they're saying hello who's
this morning my name is Selena hey
Selena good morning
hello I think we lost you for a second
what you say
mama good
morning your phone is
going can you take us off Bluetooth if
you got us on Bluetooth mama
be Verizon by the way so I don't know
why it's acting upo this is no your
phone is done damn
sorry you sound like you ready to go too
I
know hello who's
this this is Remo from Jersey what's
going on Rema from Jersey what's up you
think this rap battle is going too far
Rema n rap battle a going too far all y
know that man cut it out but listen I
definitely think
up I mean Drake his sh been saying what
he need to say whatever but if you
somebody information that another rap
artist already out that you had a son
that's corn you don't get even if it's
not true you said information it's
already put in speculation and on it
yeah so whe it's weak or not or not we
going wrong with that just because you
already know stupid well I guess I guess
if you gonna feed him information you
got to feed him something that's
believable enough that he's going to use
so it would make sense to go to angle of
hey he got another child that he's been
hiding you know what I mean like that
that makes sense for him to do hello
who's this but I don't believe
it hello who's
this oh it's Mike Mike what's up man
what's your thoughts Mike you think they
went too
far uh I think they both went too far I
feel like they heavy Jabs at each other
made allegations that's serious um right
now I got 3 one and
32 um because Krick Lamar deleted LA and
changed the cover on
Instagram well they say he had to CH
they say you had to change the cover art
because you can't Pur uh you can't post
in apple be via Apple's terms you can't
post somebody else's personal items as
your cover art yeah right of course not
that's I mean that's what I saw
yesterday I don't think you do that
anyway I don't I don't even think they
could put that on social media because
of no you can't my sister actually did
that to me and they they took it down
and they they sister did what my god
sister actually did that to me she
posted like uh a prescription where she
had told everybody I had got a BBL she
actually did that and they like took it
down they like banned her account for a
while they got can't do that they give
you Med certain medicine after that she
was trying to prove that I got one you
got a BBL yeah I already told everybody
so what was her so yeah why she do it oh
cuz I fired her she was working for me
and I fired her and that was her
retaliation that you told people already
though no I didn't tell nobody nobody
had knew I I never said I didn't but
she me out there like that yeah I was
going to just pop
out and she is straight put it out there
then everybody was like uh you got BBL
Jaz so yeah 80058 51051 do you think
they went too far let's discuss is The
Breakfast Club good
morning now these brothers have been
rapping but we're asking now uh did they
go too far that is the question 8585
1051 and you know also man when we say
have things gone too far I guess what
I'm saying is when you start speaking
things that can only feel like they're
going to lead to violence yeah it's gone
too far cuz when you start accusing
people of being women beaters and you
start accusing people of being
pedophiles and you start saying things
like you know yo my child is my my
friend's child it's just like after you
take it to hell like that what's the
next
but let me ask you a question I've been
I've been seeing a lot of the comments
people are being like well Drake is not
really for the culture he he grew up
Jewish he was never in the culture he
never accepted his black side and then
all of a sudden it switched you know and
then I also see people that say well
Kendrick he's talks about all this black
empowerment he has a mixed wife and he
loves white women like so so where do we
go with that is any of that true do we
know or we just going all that's just a
matter of opinion because you know all
of those things we know are true because
they both have said those things like
Kendrick said he likes white women yes
y' see y'all don't listen to Kendrick I
listen to Kendrick I love Mr moral and
the big steppers worldwide step but he
talks about white women that he slept
with like so yeah that has actually
happened you know so to me that's just a
matter of what you believe like do you
think a person can be Jewish and still
love hip-hop culture do you think a
person can still can be Pro black and
still sleep with white women it's up to
you that's on you okay let's go to the
phone lines we got uh mark on the Mark
good
morning hey how y doing good morning
what's up
Mark go ahead brother hey I want to say
I'm really not a fan of Kendrick Lamar
or Drake but at the bottom line of
everything to me it looks like Kendrick
Lamar was taking on Drake from the
beginning he took you on tour he put
money in your pocket and next thing you
know you're hating on the
man well I respect Kendrick for being an
an open no shut up man he said it said I
hate the way you dress I hate the way
you look you know what I mean I hate
everything about I I respect that I
respect a man saying I hate this man
straight up don't make up any other
reason why you don't like me and try to
get other people to not like me just
straight up say I hate you I respect
that I do I respect an honest open hater
oh my goodness hello who's this y yo G Y
what up G talk to us right now first of
all do you think they went too far on
this rap
battle nah I don't think they gone too
far I think I think he a tile nigg is a
tie yeah with a little slight Edge to um
Drake because Drake going against more
than one person well no see that's
that's a whole other Factor though
that's why I said there's there's really
no loser here but I I I do respect the
fact that Drake is battling more than
one individual Family Family Matters is
a record about five different people
corre he got two versus the Kendrick and
one about four or five other people
corre um I just yeah I I got I just give
the slight as the Kendrick just for
strategy just strategy his strategy was
very good this weekend it it it lined up
very well for him yo I was with you I
was with you until Drake released that
record yesterday and it made me feel
different if if Drake was feeding on I
don't believe that if Drake give me some
proof I'll believe it if but there's no
way Drake fed this information to people
and didn't document it I would have
recorded the whole process yeah so you
feel like he just ran like he ran with
what's going on on the internet cuz
that's what everybody was saying anyway
yes yes I he's an internet guy we know
that we know he loves but also I don't
believe 90% of what either the one of
them was saying I don't believe Drake
got another daughter out there I don't
believe Kendrick is a woman beater I
don't believe Dake to be a pedophile
like all I don't believe any of this I I
don't believe that that that either but
I will tell you this though when I heard
Kendrick to meet the grams record when
he started writing letters to his mom
his dad his kids I said we got to fight
now
y we got fight yo he literally says to
his mom on the record your son should
die come on Y what we doing we got the
fight we got to fight it was creative
but we got to fight this the beef that I
didn't think would ever remotely get
violent no I didn't either now they woke
up with them backpacks and then stop
batt y wishing death on each other like
I a I didn't like that I didn't like
that aspect of it but other than that
this has been one of the this has been
the most entertaining entertaining rap
Feud I've ever witnessed yeah just
wanted to be done Cory good
morning hey how you doing I'm here hey
Cory good morning so we're talking Drake
and Kendrick you think you think they
went too
far um you know what I'm they did I'm G
say that they did first of for I want to
say good morning to everybody morning
morning King good morning babe charl man
I'm the guy at the at the black pod gave
you my book I don't know if you remember
oh yeah yeah
yeah I'm lying
you see how listen you see how quick and
negro lie
yes see cuz it's not really a lie cuz I
remember people giving me books you just
don't remember that person you know what
I'm
saying but but but I but but but I will
say you have been hitting me on
Instagram a lot about
it yes I have because I wanted your
opinion yeah and I've been trying I've
been trying to remember the actual
comment that you keep leaving on
Instagram it's a mental health book you
gave me right well the the I revised I
gave you my revised Edition because I
wrote a special uh part about mental
health yes yes yes time he got it he got
it but now back to Drake and Kendrick
all right this this what I when it come
to Drake and Kendrick I believe that um
they they wanted they went too far
because what what they bringing involved
in the
conversation is um they bring a lot of a
lot of hate they divide the country
based on issues that they talking about
just on acusations of child molestation
and stuff like that so people gonna pick
the and and it's going to cause a lot of
division and it didn't went away from
bars and I think that they need to get
back to the element of bars keep the
personal accusations out of what they
believe and think because right now like
I said it's G divide the country um I'm
actually still riding with Drake though
he the underdog for the first time and I
think the underdog put Underdog gon put
some boost on and step back hard you
don't you don't think it's over you
don't think La last night when I heard
Drake explaining himself on the uh the
Heart part six even though I think he
was rapping he he had some bars on there
it just felt like
it felt like he it was he was kind of
over it yeah I mean at this point yeah
he probably is because you got the whole
industry against they won in his brain
but I think when it come to the content
of the music Drake Still gon come out on
top you know I think they need to GNA
let it simmer down so that this energy
will decrease like the anger of it but
in sense it is kind of but I'm Still
rocking with great okay well you you
gotta appreciate Drake and Kendrick for
what they did for hip hop culture cuz I
mean it the last what weeks has been
nothing but really like enjoying it
every time we in a group chat and
somebody in the group chat puts a new
record you get excited you stop what
you're doing to actually listen I was at
my daughter's one of my daughter's chair
competitions and I ran outside to go
listen in the car cuz I wanted to hear
it that bad see that's what I'm saying I
told you at my show a guy blurted it out
I was on my last joke he was like they
they dropped again Kendrick dropped
again yeah I mean listen nobody nobody
disappointed now y'all can say like
Drake didn't disappoint Kendrick did
didn't disappoint this has been it's
just been great there hasn't been a
musical misstep yet but let me ask you a
question so of course Metro did a dis
beat but when it comes to Drake does
that change how you feel about Drake as
a rapper because anytime he has ever
been tested whether win or loss he has
five back whether it I've always given
Drake props for that I've I've said over
and over I always love when Drake raps I
hate when he sings I've always said
Drake is rythm to every challenge you
know it don't matter who it is he has
stepped up to the plate and and and and
B B people up win lose a draw so I yes I
do respect Drake as a rapper now rumor
haard Kendrick has another record coming
out I've heard that too and they said
Drake said he got Kendrick Drake said
Kendrick got 10 more records coming up
oh my God but they said uh This Record
is is allegedly with somebody else so
would that be what would you feel about
a Kendrick and push a t
record nah I'mma tell you what I'mma
tell I'mma tell you what might slap what
a Kendrick Rihanna record a Kendrick
Rihanna record right now you really want
to get the blogs
you really want to get the computers you
drop another you come back with you
already gave us not like us right which
got the clubs going up if you give us
one of them radio records Kendrick and
Rihanna can you imagine that wow
Kendrick and
Rana my God that would be crazy what say
that would SC I wouldn't even give it a
title I'll just say Kendrick Lamar
featuring Rihanna Drake will be
somewhere sweating like what the hell
are they about to say
oh man all right well moral of the story
you have a moral the moral of the story
is man just for me I just don't like
seeing uh I don't have no moral I don't
give a damn it it was good it was good
it was fun that was yeah you know all
right all right well we got Jess thees
coming up yes uh Tom Brady's roast last
night they had people booing Kim
Kardashian I felt so bad for her sounds
right right to me right we'll get into
that next it's The Breakfast Club good
morning wake that ass up early in the
morning Breakfast Club
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