"You're a F***ing TERRORIST!" | HasanAbi Clashes With pro-Israel Journalist

Piers Morgan Uncensored
24 Apr 202439:02

Summary

TLDRThe transcript captures a heated and chaotic debate surrounding the Israel-Palestine conflict, with various perspectives being passionately argued. The discussion involves accusations of performative activism, the impact of protests on public figures, and the broader implications of supporting or condemning certain actions by either side. It highlights the complexities of the conflict, the challenges of finding a peaceful resolution, and the intense emotions that arise when discussing such a sensitive and deeply divisive issue. The conversation, marked by interruptions and confrontations, underscores the difficulty in achieving a nuanced and respectful dialogue about the subject.

Takeaways

  • 📢 The ongoing conflict in Gaza is perceived differently by various communities, with Jewish and Muslim individuals expressing feelings of insecurity and concern.
  • 🌎 The global response to the Palestinian crisis is polarized, often framed as a battle between good and evil, with some viewing it as an oppressor-oppressed dynamic.
  • 📚 There is a noted lack of awareness and understanding among some individuals, particularly student protesters, about the complexities of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
  • 🤯 Public figures, such as New York Mayor Eric Adams and actor Alec Baldwin, have faced public backlash and harassment, reflecting the intensity of public sentiment on the issue.
  • 🎭 The role of 'performative activism' is criticized for potentially trivializing the conflict and detracting from the seriousness of the situation in Gaza.
  • 💸 The financial aspect of supporting the conflict through university tuition fees and investments in companies associated with Israel is a point of contention among students and activists.
  • 🚫 There is a debate about the legitimacy of public protests that involve support for groups like Hamas, with some arguing it crosses a line into supporting terrorism.
  • 🤔 The conversation raises questions about the effectiveness of protests and activism in influencing the actions of the rich and powerful and bringing attention to the conflict.
  • 🗣️ The heated nature of the debate often leads to unproductive discussions, with individuals talking over each other and resorting to name-calling rather than engaging in constructive dialogue.
  • ✋ Calls for a more nuanced understanding of the conflict, recognizing the humanity and suffering on all sides, and the need for a resolution that respects the rights and dignity of all involved.

Q & A

  • What is the main issue being discussed in the transcript?

    -The main issue discussed is the ongoing conflict between Israel and Palestine, with a focus on the reactions and protests in the United States, particularly at American universities.

  • What is the controversy surrounding the professor at Columbia University?

    -The controversy is about a Jewish professor at Columbia who shared a video of Muslims praying, which some perceived as an assault on US values.

  • What was the incident involving Alec Baldwin?

    -Alec Baldwin was harassed by a performance artist known as 'Crackhead Barbie' while he was getting coffee. She accused him of supporting genocide and demanded he say 'Free Palestine'.

  • What is the position of the panelist regarding the harassment of public figures?

    -The panelist believes that public figures should not be harassed in the manner that Alec Baldwin was, and that such actions can detract from the seriousness of the underlying issues.

  • What was the reaction to the harassment of New York Mayor Eric Adams?

    -People confronted Mayor Eric Adams, accusing him of supporting genocide and neglecting the citizens of New York by focusing on the conflict in Gaza.

  • What is the debate about the effectiveness of the protests?

    -The debate is whether the protests are forcing the rich and powerful to confront the horrors of war or if they are self-indulgent and distracting from the serious realities of the conflict.

  • What is the role of social media and performative activism in this context?

    -Social media and performative activism are criticized for potentially turning serious issues into a joke and for being more about gaining social clout rather than effecting meaningful change.

  • What is the stance of the panelist on the use of violence in the conflict?

    -The panelist condemns violence against civilians and distinguishes between justified and unjustified acts of violence, emphasizing that the context of oppression must be considered.

  • What is the argument regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict being one-sided?

    -The argument is made that there is no 'both sides' in a genocide, implying that the conflict is not a balanced situation and that one side is more victimized than the other.

  • What is the significance of the discussion about the West Bank and Gaza?

    -The significance is to highlight the differing views on the Israeli occupation, the establishment of settlements, and the potential outcomes if Israel were to withdraw completely from these areas.

  • What is the panelist's view on the role of international law in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?

    -The panelist argues for the importance of international law in granting Palestinians a contiguous state and criticizes the lack of such recognition and the ongoing occupation.

Outlines

00:00

😀 Addressing the Gaza Crisis and Western Reactions

The first paragraph discusses the emotional and polarized responses to the Gaza crisis, highlighting the feelings of insecurity among Jewish and Muslim communities in Western cities. It touches upon the tendency to frame the conflict as a battle between good and evil and criticizes the lack of attention to the actual war compared to protests at universities. The narrative also addresses the controversy surrounding New York Mayor Eric Adams and the public backlash against Alec Baldwin, with a call for him to express support for Palestine.

05:02

😓 The Complexity of Freeing Palestine and Public Figure Harassment

This paragraph delves into the complexities of achieving Palestinian freedom, with a conversation that includes assertions about the performative nature of some activism and the impact of misguided demonstrations. It also includes a confrontation between the host and a guest, where the guest's tactics and motives for harassing Alec Baldwin are questioned, and a debate ensues about the seriousness and sincerity of the guest's intentions.

10:02

🤔 The Role of Protests and Divestment in Supporting Palestine

The third paragraph focuses on the role of protests, particularly at universities, and the demand for divestment from companies supporting Israel's alleged apartheid regime. It discusses the goals of the student protests, the controversy over a potential Columbia University campus in Tel Aviv, and the broader debate over the effectiveness and appropriateness of protest tactics in raising awareness and driving change.

15:03

😠 Debating the Legitimacy of Violence and Statehood in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

This section presents a heated debate about the legitimacy of violence in the context of revolution, the status of Israel as an apartheid state, and the international law surrounding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. It includes accusations of selective support for violence, the discussion of the October 7th atrocities, and the characterization of Israel's occupation of the West Bank.

20:05

😤 The Impact of Protests and the Tragedy of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

The fifth paragraph emphasizes the importance of respectful dialogue in addressing the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. It condemns the harassment of public figures, the support for terror groups, and the lack of constructive conversation. The discussion also touches on the historical context of the conflict, the suffering of the people of Gaza, and the need for a solution that respects the rights and dignity of all parties involved.

25:06

😡 The Hostages Debate and the Future of the West Bank

The sixth paragraph is a contentious discussion about the use of hostages by Hamas and the Israeli Defense Forces' (IDF) military tactics. It includes arguments about the potential consequences if Israel were to withdraw completely from the West Bank, the portrayal of Palestinians as terrorists, and the broader implications for peace and stability in the region.

30:08

😠 The Call for Dissolution of the Apartheid Regime and the Gaza Blockade

The final paragraph is a chaotic exchange with participants arguing over the definition of genocide, the actions of Hamas, and the Israeli government's policies towards Gaza. It includes accusations of genocide and inhumane treatment, the role of international law, and the urgent need for a resolution that addresses the humanitarian crisis and the political aspirations of both Israelis and Palestinians.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Gaza

Gaza is a small, densely populated territory bordered by Israel and Egypt, and is a significant focal point of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. In the video script, Gaza is mentioned in the context of the suffering of its civilian population and the ongoing war, highlighting the humanitarian crisis and political tensions.

💡Apartheid

Apartheid refers to a policy or system of segregation and discrimination based on race. In the context of the video, it is used to describe the perceived discriminatory practices against Palestinians by the Israeli government, particularly in the West Bank, and is a key term in the debate over the ethics and politics of the Israeli occupation.

💡Hamas

Hamas is a Palestinian political organization with a military wing that has been involved in conflicts with Israel. The script discusses the contentious issue of support for Hamas among some protesters, which is a point of contention and debate, with accusations of terrorism and the complex issue of resistance versus violence.

💡Palestinians

Palestinians are an ethnic group with a majority in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, and are central to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The script frequently refers to the plight of Palestinians, their rights, and the international community's perception of their struggle for self-determination.

💡Israeli Defense Forces (IDF)

The IDF is the military force of the State of Israel, which is often a subject of criticism or support in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The script mentions the IDF in relation to military operations in Gaza, accusations of using hostages, and the broader debate over the use of force.

💡Genocide

Genocide is the intentional destruction of a particular ethnic or national group. In the video script, accusations of genocide are a point of heated debate, with references to the casualties and the intent behind the actions of both Hamas and the Israeli government in the context of the conflict.

💡Protest

Protests, as mentioned in the script, are public demonstrations expressing objection to policies or actions. The video discusses protests at universities and the broader public sphere, particularly those in support of Palestinian rights and against Israeli policies, which are seen as performative by some and genuine by others.

💡

💡Ethnic Cleansing

Ethnic cleansing refers to the forced removal or extermination of a racial or ethnic group from a region. The term is used in the script to describe the alleged actions of the Israeli government against Palestinians, particularly in the context of the West Bank settlements and the impact on Palestinian communities.

💡Settlements

Settlements in this context refer to Israeli communities established in the West Bank, which are considered illegal under international law. The script discusses the issue of settlements as a point of conflict, with implications for the prospects of a two-state solution and the daily lives of Palestinians.

💡International Law

International law comprises the rules and norms governing relations between states and other international entities. The script refers to international law, particularly concerning the status of the West Bank and Gaza, the legality of Israeli settlements, and the rights of Palestinians.

💡Human Rights

Human rights are the fundamental rights and freedoms to which all individuals are entitled. The video script touches on human rights in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, discussing the treatment of Palestinians, the actions of the IDF, and the broader ethical considerations of the situation.

Highlights

The ongoing debate over the Israel-Palestine conflict is highlighted, with various perspectives on the safety of Jewish and Muslim communities in Western cities.

Concern is expressed over the treatment of Palestinians and the perception of the crisis as a battle between good and evil.

Coverage of protests at American universities, such as NYU and Yale, has been criticized for overshadowing the actual conflict.

A Jewish professor at Columbia is mentioned for sharing a video of Muslims praying, which was met with controversy.

Protests and calls for divestment from companies supporting Israel are discussed, with a focus on student activism at various universities.

An incident involving New York Mayor Eric Adams being confronted for his alleged support of 'genocide' is detailed.

Alec Baldwin is mentioned in the context of being harassed by a performance artist demanding he say 'Free Palestine'.

The role of social media and 'virtue signaling' in the context of the Israel-Palestine conflict is explored.

The panelists debate the effectiveness and sincerity of public protests and the line between performative activism and genuine support for causes.

The discussion touches on the history of violence and the concept of 'antifa' in the context of revolution.

Hassan, a streamer and activist, argues for the divestment from companies involved in the Israeli occupation and for Palestinian rights.

Emily Austin challenges the narrative of Israel as an apartheid state and questions the validity of the term 'genocide' in this context.

The conversation becomes heated, with panelists accusing each other of supporting terrorism and spreading misinformation.

The issue of Israeli settlements in the West Bank and their impact on the potential for a two-state solution is raised.

The debate concludes with a call for a more respectful and constructive dialogue that honors the victims of the conflict.

The role of the media in amplifying certain voices and narratives, such as 'Crackhead Barbie', is criticized.

The importance of addressing the root causes of the conflict and the need for a long-term solution is emphasized.

Transcripts

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well the boring Gaza is incense

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communities across the world many Jewish

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people say they don't feel safe on the

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streets of Western cities many Muslims

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feel the horror facing innocent

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Palestinians is treated as a second

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class concern as with any emotive cause

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a lot of people would know dog in the

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fight have molded this crisis into a

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familiar Battle of good versus evil

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oppressors versus oppressed hysterical

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scenes of some of America's top

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universities this week have generated

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more coverage and commentary than the

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war itself in the last two weeks

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Colombia says that all inperson classes

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are now cancelled until the end of a

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semester arrests have been made at

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encampments outside NYU and Yale well

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one notable Jewish professor at Columbia

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shared a video of muslims praying as if

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it was a shocking assault on us values

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many badly informed Pro Palestine

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demonstrators meanwhile have called for

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an inter father Enchanted we love Hamas

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others believe a synchronized dancing is

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a long lost secret to peace in the

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Middle East well these people are all

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spending $80,000 a year on tuition but

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clearly many of them haven't found

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Wikipedia and Miss virtue signaling

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fever

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is now EMB Bolding a growing number of

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people to confront public figures there

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simply no connection to the wall this

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was New York mayor Eric Adams bated for

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supporting genocide as he took his seat

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on a

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flight you Eric

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Adams yeah you he support the genocide

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and py there are homeless people all

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over in New York you're always partying

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you don't actually care about the

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citizens of New York people cannot

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afford food you keep cutting the

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education Bud budget so you F the

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police and this so-called performance

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artist has dominated timelines for days

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after achieving what previously seemed

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impossible and outpouring public

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sympathy for Alec Baldwin by doing this

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you're putting innocent people in jail

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Alec Baldwin sorry free Palestine Alec

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just one time and I'll leave you alone

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I'll leave you alone I swear just say

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free Palestine one time one time one

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time call the police one time Alex you

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know you know he's a

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you know he's Criminal come on Alex just

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say free Palestine one time Israel

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Zionism please say

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it one time could you give me one quick

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favor one

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time so does any of this make a

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difference are these demonstrators

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forcing the rich and Powerful to

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confront and condemn the horrors of war

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or is it a wave of self-indulgent

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protest just distracting us some the

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deadly serious realities of a grim

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ongoing war in a moment I'll debate all

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that with s [ __ ] Emily Austin Esther

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craer and James Barber first I'm joined

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by Alec Baldwin's antagonist there who

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calls herself crackhead Bary well

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welcome uh to

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uncensored hey hey P I've been waiting

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for you P [ __ ]

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Morgan I wore my diaper today for you

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pierce do you like it uh not not

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particularly no do you want to sit

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down I and and and Pierce can you bring

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me to Buckingham Palace I would like to

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meet the queen what I'd really like to

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meet the queen I don't think the well

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the queen uh if you mean queen Camila

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she is probably tied up with royal

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engagements at the moment if you meant

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the queen who died get me in Pierce get

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me [ __ ] in Pierce I want it okay can

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I can I take you back if I may uh to

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what you did to Alec bbing can you

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explain why you did it what did I do to

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Alec B Pierce do you see the damage that

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Alec did to me do you see the damage

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look at my arms look at my arms Pierce

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look at my my neck I was named by a

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white man on Monday you're telling me

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what I

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did no you weren't M by B on Monday were

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you I was maed my hand is broken my neck

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is broken no it's my legs look at my

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legs my legs don't work look at this

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Pierce Pierce are you another white

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devil Pierce Moran don't do this to me

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Pierce it's to early in the morning be

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this is so early the wig your wigs come

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off I it's not a wig Pierce it's my hair

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I'm a white woman I identify as a white

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woman let me ask you seriously if I may

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for a moment because you're trying to

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make a serious point I presume with Alec

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Balwin he was getting a coffee you run

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in you call him a killer I was getting a

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coffee too okay but you decided to I was

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getting a coffee too you don't have to

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shout at me as well we can have a

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civilized conversation I want to know

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seriously I I'm very civil I wanted to

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know seriously why you did what you did

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and what you hoped to gained by

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it pierced Pierce [ __ ] Morgan you're

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asking just for the record my name is

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actually just what's wrong with saying

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free Palestine Pierce can you say free

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free Palestine for me can you say free

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Palestine for me if you stop shouting

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yeah I want you to say it yes I'm happy

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to say I'm not going to sh if you just

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Mr Pierce Morgan if you just keep quiet

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I can answer your question yes I'm very

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happy to say never quiet Pierce sorry

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you're still talking I'm never quiet

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okay but try Pi I canot you ask me to do

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something if you don't shut up I can't

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give you the answer oh my God okay yeah

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okay I'll shut up for you I absolutely

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believe that Palestine should be free

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yes oh okay and how are we going to do

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that pierce give us the answer Pi Moran

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give us the [ __ ] address how are we

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going to make Palestine free yeah if it

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was as simple as how we going to do it

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if it was as simple as me just giving a

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simple answer now it would have been

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done by now it's a very complicated

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issue but let me ask you again why do

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why let me ask you again seriously why

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did you do what you did to Alec Baldwin

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and what did you hope to achieve Alec

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Baldwin through look at me Pierce

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honestly Pierce look at my body look at

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this look at me Pier I was named by a

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white man listen I understand I

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understand you're a performative artist

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I understand you're trying to make

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everybody laugh you're beating you made

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You' made your joke about your terrible

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satellite you're lashing me right okay

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I'm not lashing you I was beating this

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is the third this is the third white man

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to beat me this week third white man

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yesterday my white boyfriend beat the

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[ __ ] out of me this is the third white

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man M day was Alec the second day was

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another white man Third Day Pierce

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borgan is beating me up on International

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TV oh my God Pierce you're you're

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hurting me Pierce You're really hurting

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me right now you see here's my problem

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here's my problem with your performative

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art uh crackhead is I don't see what

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hting I don't see what good you're doing

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the cause of Palestine all you're doing

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is turning the whole War into a

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joke You're really hurting me this war

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is not a joke why are you making why are

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you making it such a mockery explain to

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me how am I making a mockery how because

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you're making it all about you're making

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all about you and your silly pranks and

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you're trying to have fun and actually

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behind all this is a very serious war

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going

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on I'm always serious I'm always serious

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you're hurting me right now Pier right

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like you're hurting from your kid are

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you going to explain are you going to

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explain why you did what you did to Al

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but win or

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not I got hurt I'm a

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victim I'm a victim P like a [ __ ]

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Zionist I'm a

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victim all of you you're hurting me

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another white man okay you know you see

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the trouble with this the trouble with

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this performative art is it's not funny

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you've got one gag that you've been maed

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by the Bing which you haven't what you

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haven't explained to the audience and

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I've given you the chance repeatedly is

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why you what you did and why you think

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what you're doing now does anything but

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make a mockery of all these people dying

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in Gaza cuz that's what you're

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doing that's that look Pierce you're

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trying to spin this into some [ __ ] I

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know exactly what you're doing Pierce I

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you're tax you're British you're [ __ ]

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annoying you eat TN crumpets you have

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your pinky in the [ __ ] air you salute

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the queen [ __ ] the crown [ __ ] Bucky Hand

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p now I'm getting angry cuz P this is

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what you now you're getting angry set

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people up for [ __ ] now you're yeah you

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set people up for sh I know exactly what

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you do Pierce I know exactly cuz I do it

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too Pierce and I have a [ __ ] audience

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Pierce you think you think you could set

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me up Pierce listen Pier I think you

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know what I think I think you're I think

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you're frankly I think Honesty crackhead

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you are honestly pathetic this is one of

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the most pathetic things I've ever had

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to endure you're calling me a long

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illustrious history of call black woman

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a crackhead that's your name you're

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calling me your name on your Twitter

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Fe you call your yourself a bigger [ __ ]

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than Pierce am I a bigger [ __ ] than

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Megan final I'm going to give you a

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final chance are you going to actually

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answer the question of why you did what

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you did to no Pierce Pierce I have a

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question am I a bigger [ __ ] than Megan

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marle because you know Buckingham P was

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complain about the black girl and I want

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to be that black girl okay I want to be

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that black girl you know what I tried to

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give you iiy to give you a hearing not

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going to take it seriously I actually

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think you're doing you may want to shout

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yeah you may want to shout and scream Al

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all

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right I think we've heard enough of

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crackhead to be honest with you um all

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right let's bring in my panel uh

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streamer Hassan perer journalist Emily

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Austin uncensored contributor Esther kru

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and podcaster James PA well Emily I mean

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on one level I guess it was quite funny

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but on another level I didn't like what

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she did to Al BN I've got no truck for

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Al Balwin whatsoever

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and I think with this case that he's got

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hanging over him I hope that Justice is

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served because ultimately he did fire

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the gun that killed that poor woman and

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has been on some kind of weird PR tour

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ever since uh but I don't like to see

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any public figure whether it's Eric

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Adams the mayor on a plane or Al baling

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getting a coffee hared and harassed in

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that manner now I tried to conduct a

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serious interview she obviously wasn't

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interested in doing that wanted to turn

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the whole thing into a f mouth rant and

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joke and performative thing fine fine

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that's entirely her right to do it um

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but what did you think of these uh

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harassing not just by her but by other

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people of public

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figures you tried to conduct a serious

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interview with crackhead Barby well no I

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was asking her about a viral video of

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her harassing Alec bwin which I do

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actually think is a serious thing I do

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actually think public figures should not

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be harassed in that manner I've had a

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bit of it myself and I think it crosses

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a line right and Ali balbin you know as

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far as I'm aware has not said anything

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particularly uh Sensational about the

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war at all so why she is harassing him

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in the street in the way that she did uh

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I think is worthy of of examination now

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as it turned out she had no interest in

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having a serious conversation okay so

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we've cut it off but I don't think I

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should be blamed for getting on someone

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who is literally at the center of a

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quite big news story in America for

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harassing a famous star do you h no she

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it was for she was doing it for clout

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that's why she went on the show also for

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clout which you were correct on pointing

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out that using the ongoing anthy

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cleansing campaign in Gaza and what's

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happening to the Palestinian people uh

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as a as a vehicle to to create more

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social clout for yourself social capital

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for yourself is pretty pretty

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disingenuous pretty messed up I jump in

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there because isn't that what

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everybody's doing is isn't what the show

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is also doing because you're talking

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about create political clout create

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noise I'll come to get clicks to make

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money listen let's not all be

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disingenuous the whole and actually

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crackhead Barney isn't that different to

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you and crack Barney said it herself she

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said we're no different and I kind of

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agree with CRA Barney I didn't think I'd

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say it do you think there's any

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correlation between what she just did

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someone screaming over someone and not

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letting them speak there's definitely a

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correlation you think that I've treated

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you like you treated I'm just saying

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that I think that actually you aren't

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that different you're trying to do the

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same thing I'm I'll come back just doing

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it in a different way no it's it's a

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Preposterous suggestion do not do what

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she does right but Hassan here's the

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point I would make to you A lot of

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people think a lot of these protesters

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at universities in America are

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performative the ones who are chanting

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their support for Hamas the ones who are

12:40

chanting about inada and pretending it's

12:43

not about a violent u uprising I mean do

12:45

you accept that a lot of that is not

12:47

only performative but public

12:49

demonstration of support for

12:53

terrorism um absolutely not I don't

12:55

think that I mean all protests are

12:56

technically performative obviously but

12:58

there's a very clear-cut goal for uh the

13:01

the group of students at Columbia and

13:03

many other universities uh I was in

13:06

Melbourne not that long ago and I

13:09

attended a Palestinian protest there

13:11

Palestinian rally there and the students

13:13

there were also demanding the exact same

13:15

thing that they divest their colleges

13:17

divest from uh a lot of the companies

13:20

that are aligned with the state of

13:21

Israel a lot of the companies that are

13:23

directly involved uh in in operations in

13:26

the West Bank a lot of the companies

13:28

that that are playing a role in the

13:31

regular maintenance of the apartheid

13:33

regime of Israel and uh and helping

13:35

Israel conduct an ethnic cleansing

13:36

campaign that is the ultimate goal that

13:39

is why they're trying to very clearly uh

13:42

cause a little bit of a disruption and

13:44

engage in but are you comfortable okay

13:46

but are you comfortable can do are you

13:48

comfortable with the ones who are seen

13:50

chanting support for Hamas or chanting

13:53

about

13:55

in um I am perfectly comfortable uh with

13:59

with people chanting about the inata as

14:01

far as Hamas thing goes uh any any kind

14:04

of protest is always going to have a

14:06

Litany of random people but ultimately

14:08

it doesn't really matter you have to

14:09

look at the actual tangible goals that

14:12

the protest movement is stating they are

14:15

interested in and I think that those

14:17

goals and I think you will agree with me

14:19

on this Pi I think those goals are

14:20

pretty pretty valid overall I think that

14:23

they want to one reenter the attention

14:25

to the genocide that is ongoing in Gaza

14:29

and two uh demand that their tuition

14:31

dollars do not go to uh operations in

14:36

Israel I don't know if you're aware of

14:38

this but there's a there's a campus uh

14:40

there's going to be a sister campus that

14:43

uh is being built in Tel Aviv right now

14:45

for Columbia University this means that

14:48

Columbia University which once housed

14:50

the likes of the late great Edward S and

14:53

many others and that currently has many

14:55

Palestinian students who pay tuition for

14:58

project project such as this one will

15:00

not be able to go to that sister campus

15:03

I find that abhorent but it's everyday

15:05

existence in Israel let me bring in let

15:07

me bring in Emily uh you've been

15:08

listening to all this your

15:11

response with all due respect Hassan why

15:14

do you feel that Colombia or any college

15:17

for that matter owes you to divest from

15:21

Israel why do you think your opinion is

15:23

correct cuz so far I heard the classic

15:25

buzzwords apar tide discriminatory

15:29

ethnic cleansing and genocide which is

15:30

funny because it's all the exact

15:32

opposite so if I may ask you what about

15:35

Israel is a parthe you also just said

15:37

the students in Israel um the canvas in

15:40

Israel will not allow Palestinians to

15:41

join are you confused or do you know

15:43

nothing about the country of Israel

15:45

because let me remind you Jews are not

15:48

allowed in the West Bank in Gaza however

15:50

Arabs have full Israeli citizenship have

15:53

the rights are members of the knesset

15:54

which is the equivalent of you can think

15:56

of Congress and even prosecuted a former

15:59

prime minister AUD Omare an Arab judge

16:01

so what aparte exactly are you speaking

16:04

about what genocide what ethnic

16:06

cleansing and secondly how dare you as

16:09

how dare you say it's okay to talk about

16:12

an antifa let me remind you the antifa

16:15

last time it happened in Israel

16:16

consisted of thousands of people dying

16:19

in bus bombing so are you saying that

16:21

you support terrorism and killing

16:24

innocent

16:26

people well Ina simply just means

16:28

revolution and I'm an American and in

16:31

1776 violent and it was pretty [ __ ]

16:34

good yeah what do you think the American

16:37

do you think the American Revolution

16:39

Bima we also bomb Hiroshima don't don't

16:42

yeah I know and that was also unjust and

16:45

unimaginably cruel but of course the

16:47

Israel Defender is also Defending Your

16:50

narrative civilians and killing them

16:53

hundreds of thousand it f your Nar it's

16:56

jied but when it refocus the convers to

16:59

the points that you made Let's

17:02

refocus just to remind everybody I'm

17:04

actually moderating this but that's an

17:06

interesting point that Emily just raised

17:07

Hassan it does seem that you're very

17:09

selective about the violence that you

17:11

support that when you support it it's

17:14

Justified when other people use things

17:16

in a violent way that you don't support

17:18

it's unjustified seems like it's all

17:20

skewed to what Hassan P

17:23

thinks well not necessarily just what I

17:26

think I think that there are obvious

17:27

markers obvious boundaries I don't think

17:29

violence against civilians is Justified

17:31

I have talked about October 7 on this

17:33

very same show saying that it was a

17:35

tragedy it was atrocities that occurred

17:37

on October 7 specifically uh when you

17:40

target civilians in any capacity I think

17:42

that that is unacceptable however this

17:45

does not mean that violence will not

17:47

occur in many circumstances violence has

17:50

occurred in every single revolutionary

17:52

action many good revolutionary actions

17:55

obviously America bombing Hiroshima and

17:57

nagas Sagi with uh with a an atom bomb

18:00

uh that was not a very good

18:02

Hamer was not a very good moment for

18:04

human civilization at all was what Hamas

18:06

did on

18:07

October was what Hamas did on October

18:09

the 7th an example of what you would

18:11

call a Justified

18:15

Revolution I don't look at every single

18:19

act of violence I look at You' literally

18:21

just been reting a whole systems of

18:24

Oppression why you avoiding oob the you

18:26

do it too

18:29

I'm not avoiding it I've talked about it

18:30

a million times over let me ask you one

18:33

this we disc this not where we disc let

18:36

me directly one more let me ask you one

18:39

more time do you believe what happened

18:41

on October the 7th was a Justified Act

18:43

of Revolution yes so

18:46

not I do not and I do think that I oh

18:49

wait hold on that's let me let me

18:51

clarify let me clarify something very

18:53

important here events that unfolded on

18:56

October 7 were atrocities that much is

18:58

clear

18:59

those atrocities could have been avoided

19:00

if Israel was not an apartheid regime

19:03

Israel has been an aparti regime apar

19:06

regim keep repeating that no you can't

19:08

just chime in you can't just chime you

19:10

ask me a question you want to you ask me

19:12

a question I'm going give you an answer

19:15

cuz you're repeating Israel has been an

19:16

aparti regime since its Inception until

19:19

until

19:21

1967 Israel was an apartheid regime for

19:24

the Palestinian citizens of Israel the

19:25

Arabs as you called them they were there

19:27

was a two-tier Criminal justice system

19:29

they were subjected to the military

19:31

Court processes and not the Civil Court

19:33

processes until 1967 after 1967 they got

19:37

citizenship there are obviously still

19:40

many different social issues that

19:41

pertain to the Palestinian citizens of

19:43

Israel the Arabs that are living in

19:45

Israel uh those who are not Jewish of

19:47

course um however Israel currently is

19:51

occupying the West Bank there are more

19:53

than 2 million Palestinians that live in

19:55

the West Bank Israel is illegally

19:56

occupying the West Bank there are

19:58

checkpoints

19:59

there are uh license plates where but

20:01

that restrict Palestinian travel the the

20:04

uh Israeli operations in the West Bank

20:06

have destroyed Palestinian statehood now

20:08

of course all of this is readily

20:10

available for those who want to learn

20:12

about it yourself included I hope you

20:14

look it up bet selum is an Israeli human

20:16

rights organization which declared

20:18

Israel to be an apartheid regime in 2021

20:20

of the April of 2021 Amnesty

20:22

International declared Israel to be an a

20:24

parti regime let me before I move H hang

20:28

on hang on hang on before we I I just

20:31

want to bring in our two British

20:32

panelists here but just finally just to

20:33

clarify asan I can't quite work out

20:36

whether you said you do think October

20:38

the 7th was an unjustified Act of

20:41

Revolution or whether you changed your

20:43

mind so can you

20:46

clarify I think

20:49

that violent means of maintaining an

20:52

apartheid is inevitably going to yield

20:55

violent

20:57

retaliation it was it

20:59

that is completely avoidable was it

21:01

Justified civilian deaths are never

21:05

Justified Hang On Em you look goldber

21:08

Poland's mother in the eyes no you look

21:10

this person's mother in the eyes and you

21:12

tell him that this was justified you

21:14

tell him his arm being blown off and

21:16

being held in captivity for 200

21:19

days isra Defender has no capacity to

21:23

[ __ ] hear

21:24

anything talking just if you're not

21:28

respect me and listen to by the way of

21:32

Gaza if you talk each other nobody can

21:34

hear you I

21:36

think I think it's the entire world

21:39

knows it

21:41

is let me handle this Emily Hass just

21:44

before I come to the the two uh people

21:46

who are with me here I just I just need

21:48

some clarity here because it seems like

21:50

you're dancing around whether you think

21:52

October the 7th was justifi why we doing

21:55

this why are we doing this back and

21:56

forth masturbation I've already given

21:58

you

22:00

tired

22:05

of dog tag it's it's okay [ __ ] demon

22:09

next to me wearing an idea of dog tag if

22:12

she actually thinks Israel's actions are

22:14

justifiable do you see bring the the

22:21

hostages I'm going to give you I'm going

22:23

to let you two calm down it's pointless

22:25

we cannot hear you when you talk over

22:27

each other people every time recently I

22:30

have someone from both sides on like it

22:33

goes like this I'm wearing this Rusty

22:34

necklace can you listen to me em

22:37

civilians in Gaza right now can you stop

22:39

doing this to each other please nobody

22:41

can nobody can understand a word either

22:43

of you saying let me come to Esther and

22:45

James here this is one of my problems I

22:47

want to hear if Emily condemns the you

22:50

will please let me moderate the debate

22:51

you ask about got two PS have had CU

22:56

you're a [ __ ] terrorist

22:59

and I think you're a

23:00

terrorist and I think you're a terrorist

23:03

as well okay well I'm not the one

23:04

wearing because the hes are home don't

23:07

expect the war to be over yeah I know

23:10

you don't care about the hostages if you

23:11

care about the hostages you screaming at

23:14

Benjamin your own

23:15

terrorism is the are exposing

23:20

youjin hostages

23:23

than not only oppressing the Palestinian

23:26

people but for spreading terrorism I

23:28

don't see your outrage of Hamas Israel

23:30

gave Gaza back in 200 and Hamas has

23:34

turned

23:35

terrorist and can you please show some

23:39

courtesy evil in comparison to Israel

23:42

can you please stop talking both of you

23:43

and the other two panelists have a say

23:45

sound bite Pierce I give give some

23:47

courtesy please some courtesy for your

23:50

co-panelist here now esta this is one of

23:53

the problems I have with this whole

23:55

debate is that increasingly we it just

23:58

descends into a screaming match between

24:00

Pro Palestinians and pro- Israelis and

24:02

the biggest losers are the biggest are

24:04

the victims of this war 33,000 dead

24:07

Palestinians over 1,500 dead Israelis

24:10

these These are the biggest victims of

24:11

this because you're shouting at each

24:13

other and nothing is getting like you

24:15

you're completely forget having no

24:16

courtesy for us you're completely

24:17

disrespecting actual victims of this

24:19

conflict which by the way didn't happen

24:21

in a vacuum and I think that's the most

24:22

important thing to say about this none

24:25

of this happened in a vacuum of course

24:26

October the 7th was an atrocity and was

24:28

completely unjustified there was no

24:30

justification for butchering people in

24:31

the way that they did but it didn't

24:33

happen in a vacuum a lot of the people

24:35

that live in Gaza weren't even weren't

24:38

even born at the time that that Hamas

24:40

came over came in power so I I really

24:43

just I despise this your terrorist

24:46

sympathizer your genocide supporter all

24:48

of this when really the people that we

24:50

should be talking about deserve better

24:52

okay James on the wider point of these

24:54

protests I couldn't get to that part

24:56

because I wanted to describe what the

24:57

apartheid is and Emily cut in

24:59

immediately to CH us some random [ __ ]

25:01

okay you were both abusing each other it

25:03

was very untis let me let me ask James

25:05

James on the proteste on the protest um

25:09

I believe in in the right to protest

25:11

that's an absolute Bedrock of any

25:13

democracy but I don't believe in the

25:15

right to support Terror groups publicly

25:17

or to chant about support for Hamas or

25:19

to chant about inap which is a violent

25:22

Uprising where's the line for you with

25:24

these I agree I think we have to condemn

25:26

what herass did and I don't think the

25:27

words that have been used so so far have

25:28

been strong enough I mean it was the

25:31

worst thing we've seen in a very long

25:33

time it was disgusting appalling awful

25:36

for everyone involved I also have a lot

25:38

of sympathy if not I can't think of a

25:40

bigger word for the people of Gaza it's

25:42

awful and I will agree with you I do

25:44

want a free Palestine and I also want a

25:47

free and successful Israel but I don't

25:49

want innocent people murdered so yeah

25:51

you can't go to a protest and start

25:53

shouting about support for Hamas that's

25:55

insane is it ironic that something like

25:57

this has become The Haven for like the

25:59

mentally unwell you're talking about

26:00

something as serious as a conflict in in

26:02

Israel and Gaza and for some reason you

26:05

have really uneducated people that are

26:07

clearly should 0 like 20 years ago would

26:09

have been in an asylum supporting this

26:11

openly not knowing not even knowing the

26:13

conflict not even knowing the context of

26:15

what they're supporting and for some

26:16

reason we we even give it air time

26:18

that's what upsets me people these

26:20

people don't deserve air time everyone

26:22

is so triggered on both s on all sides

26:25

for and rightly so because a lot of

26:27

terrible stuff happened so that's where

26:29

the emotion is coming from but really I

26:30

think we all want the same thing and

26:32

that is for innocent people to not be

26:34

murdered or slain in the streets right I

26:38

mean look

26:39

Hassan hang on Emily please I'll come to

26:42

you let me just ask Hassan when when you

26:45

and Emily go at each other like you just

26:47

did nobody wins I mean no one can really

26:50

understand a word you're saying because

26:51

you talk you're shouting over each other

26:52

you end up just calling each other

26:53

terrorists there's no there's no

26:56

sensible dialogue here there's no no

26:58

constructive conversation it's just two

27:01

impecably opposed sides abusing each

27:03

other do you understand

27:06

that yeah I listen peers okay this is

27:10

going to always have this is going to

27:11

always be a very heated discussion okay

27:14

having a conversation about how heated

27:16

this discussion is is utterly

27:17

unproductive every single moment that we

27:21

use on air not talking about every

27:24

single every single uh University

27:26

Building being Des graded destroyed uh

27:29

the fact that we're having this

27:30

conversation in the eve of hundreds of

27:33

mass Graves being Unearthed right now in

27:36

in uh many different parts of Gaza

27:38

around hospitals that Israel had laid

27:40

Siege to is disgusting I agree I came on

27:43

here as I have done last time as well

27:45

and as I will probably do in the future

27:48

as well with one simple goal in mind

27:50

which is to address all of the

27:52

misinformation that surrounds stuff like

27:54

this as far as The Crackhead Barbie

27:56

thing goes yeah she's a random Tik Tok

27:58

influencer who gives a [ __ ] about what

28:00

she has to say she's obviously doing it

28:02

for clout but the students over at

28:04

Columbia okay the students that I have

28:07

talked to at the Columbia University

28:09

apartheid devest group the students that

28:12

I've talked to from Jewish voice for

28:14

peace um all right Emily let me just ask

28:16

you the same thing I asked to S when you

28:19

guys scream at each other and call each

28:21

other terrorist it doesn't obviously

28:23

achieve anything other than it becomes

28:25

unintelligible to the audience you know

28:28

is there not a better way we can have

28:30

this conv

28:32

enough correct then funnily enough I

28:34

have the same exact answer as Hassan my

28:36

job here is to make sure that I'm

28:38

debunking false narratives that Hassan

28:40

is clearly spewing my job here is to

28:42

call out hypocrisy and I just saw

28:44

another one where he's saying that

28:45

crackhead Barney whoever the hell that

28:48

girl was is a lunatic but Aaron Bushnell

28:51

who lights himself on fire as a hero you

28:54

can't pick and choose whatever fits your

28:55

narrative and I keep I keep on repeating

28:58

that over and over again because the

28:59

Palestinian movement will literally just

29:02

take what they can get spew all of the

29:04

truth into their false narrative spread

29:06

misinformation and then you say that

29:07

we're the Liars you you tell me I'm

29:09

wearing an IDF dog tag I'm wearing a

29:11

bring them home for the hostages that

29:13

you no it says bring them home you're

29:15

using you're using the hostages as a

29:18

simple political tool to make propaganda

29:21

in the west is quite disgusting the

29:23

protest that are happening in Israel

29:24

right now are M are a political tool and

29:27

those protests

29:28

why you are using humans in captivity as

29:31

a

29:31

poli so obvious why Hassan why are you

29:35

dehumanizing the hostages because I have

29:37

no problem admitting the Palestinians

29:39

deserve better I feel Terri using them

29:41

as a political P you care about the

29:44

hostages you would be in right

29:47

now let me bring in let me bring in

29:49

James let me bring in James please I'm

29:52

sorry pleas let me bring in Jame I agree

29:55

with both of you sorry can you please

29:56

when I say stop talking please stop

29:58

talking we got four people here if

30:00

anyone is using hostages surely it's

30:03

Hamas

30:05

Hassan how can you say that how can you

30:07

how can you use that argument that's

30:09

that's a crazy thing to say it's Hamas

30:12

that taken these people tens of

30:15

thousands of people is there are

30:17

currently tens of thousands of Israeli

30:20

citizens right now in the Pro right now

30:22

in the streets of Israel in the streets

30:23

of Tel Aviv outside of Benjamin nyah's

30:26

house protesting every single day what

30:28

are they protesting they're protesting

30:30

for Benjamin Netanyahu to facilitate a

30:33

ceasefire with Hamas so that they can

30:35

actually bring the hostages home that is

30:37

precisely the number one go the family

30:40

members of the hostages any on this

30:43

panel was being even a little bit honest

30:45

they would recognize the reality listen

30:48

just listen you didn't listen to my

30:49

question Listen to listen to what I'm

30:52

saying and you will understand perhaps

30:54

what I'm trying to

30:56

implying utilizing the hostages yeah I

31:00

am being patronizing I don't know who

31:01

the [ __ ] you are and you're over here

31:03

chirping chirping all the way from

31:05

[ __ ] London about Palestine and doing

31:08

a both sides are [ __ ] fine type

31:10

[ __ ] where you're talking about how

31:12

you want to [ __ ] free Palestine but

31:14

also simultaneously you know both sides

31:16

got a lot a lot going on shut the [ __ ]

31:17

up you don't know anything okay I don't

31:19

give a [ __ ] about what your perspective

31:21

is Hass doesn't like you have to say so

31:24

you're wrong it's not it's Hassan's way

31:26

or the highway I me are you are there is

31:29

no both sides on a genocide is there a

31:30

both sides of a genocide there is no

31:32

both sides the thing is it's interesting

31:34

you should mention the

31:36

hostages they want Jewish genocide but

31:38

that's okay but Jewish genocide is okay

31:40

if you're talking about the well-being

31:42

of the of if you're talking about the

31:44

well-being of the hostages what sense

31:45

did it make for the IDF to flatten about

31:48

70% of Gaza because I completely agree

31:50

bring the hostages home if you look at

31:52

Gaza the Topography of Gaza right now it

31:54

looks like a pancake so I'm sorry this

31:56

whole argument of Hamas using them as

31:58

human tools fine but the IDF has also

32:00

been using it to continue that campaign

32:03

if you were told that if God forbid if

32:05

your your relative was one of the

32:06

hostages and you saw what's happening

32:07

right now and I met someone whose mother

32:09

is a hostage and he said he didn't want

32:11

his mother and her being taken to be

32:13

used in the name of violence right now

32:15

he's sitting at home wondering okay what

32:17

is the logic of trying to bring my

32:18

mother home when you flattened Gaza

32:20

please explain that to us so can I you

32:24

might very well you might very well pull

32:25

those hostages from let Emily respond to

32:27

that everyone wants to criticize the

32:29

idf's response but nobody wants to tell

32:31

me what should Israel be doing to

32:33

retaliate October 7th eradicate Hamas

32:36

from preventing another October 7th and

32:38

bring the hostage I have an idea I have

32:40

an idea I have an idea do not flatten

32:42

Gaza and potentially pull your own

32:44

hostages up from under from under the

32:47

rubble like have been done with

32:48

thousands of Palestinians that's a good

32:50

idea have you found any of them under

32:51

the you don't have an answer that is the

32:53

answer kill your own hostages you're

32:55

quick to condemn the IDF but you don't

32:57

an answer the hostages very interesting

33:00

I have an answer thank you for proving

33:02

my point it's called the dissolution of

33:04

the apartheid regime that's what it's

33:06

called dissolve the apartheid regime

33:09

allow Palestinians Breathing Room allow

33:12

I do do you not understand the English

33:15

language dissolve thear regime you need

33:18

a Xanax first of all you need a Xanax

33:21

okay so should Israel do 30,000

33:24

Palestinians have been ruthlessly

33:25

slaughtered by the Israel St

33:28

that it turn another Gaza is that what

33:31

you'd like to see another terrorist

33:33

Haven launching Rockets all day instead

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of turning into Singapore cuz that's

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what they did in

33:39

2005 singap of dollars in they turned

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into building tunnels is that what you

33:45

like Singapore every

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day to be Singapore what are you talking

33:49

about is the West Bank supposed to be

33:51

Singapore West Bank received the West

33:53

Bank has a port they can Import and

33:56

Export Israel gave them a great piece of

33:58

land they received billions of dollars

34:01

in Aid not only from the US Isel gave

34:03

are you mad they had a chance to rebuild

34:06

but they spent the last 15 plus years

34:08

crying that they don't have enough land

34:10

because there is Never Enough land for

34:11

them instead of rebuilding but that's

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okay build terrorist tunnels don't build

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hotels and don't rebuild civilization

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just build Terror

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Tans to have a nation state that they

34:23

deserve by international law since the

34:27

Inception of the Israeli nation state

34:29

what you are saying is insane to me the

34:32

fact that you brought up the last 15

34:34

years as Palestinians crying is

34:36

disgusting oh I have one more question

34:38

you are a disgusting little monster who

34:41

thinks that not offering contiguity to

34:44

the Palestinians in the form of a state

34:46

which is under international law is just

34:48

simply Palestinian

34:50

cry this don't want a two State solution

34:54

they want State solution that eradicates

34:56

the Israelis is not an option fine this

34:59

West Bank Singapore what place do does

35:01

the settlements play in that how please

35:03

paint a picture of how the the West Bank

35:05

of Singapore or whatever Singapore of

35:07

the West Bank how does how does this

35:08

illegal settlements fit that I I think

35:10

you're completely missing you're missing

35:12

the picture just explain howl fit into

35:15

that pict a piece of land I'm explaining

35:17

it okay I'm listen the picture is they

35:19

got a great piece of land to turn into

35:22

society instead of turning into

35:24

civilized society Kamas Israel gave

35:28

Israel gave the land to Gaza they they

35:31

is not Israel's land to give it's not

35:33

isra's land to give is not Israel's land

35:35

to give there are no Jews or Israelis

35:37

there are no settlements in Gaza gave it

35:40

to the West Bank I'm speaking about Gaza

35:43

I'm asking about West cuz I was

35:46

interested I'm telling you that if

35:48

Israel pulls out completely from the

35:50

West Bank if I'm speaking if Israel

35:52

pulls out from the West Bank you can bet

35:54

your ass it turns into the next Gaza the

35:57

world does not need two Gaza because one

35:58

Gaza has already caused enough damage if

36:01

however Gaza decides to

36:04

demand some hypothetical they can have

36:07

democ has to do a genocide because Isel

36:09

doesn't do a genocide then

36:15

the defensive

36:17

genocide you know it's interesting the

36:19

word genocide hang on it's interesting

36:21

the word hang on I would love to get a

36:24

word in please interesting the word

36:26

genocide because listen to all this

36:28

fractures debate everyone talking over

36:30

each other the truth is that actually

36:32

only one side is publicly said that they

36:36

wish to pursue a genocide and that is

36:39

Hamas Hamas after October the 7th

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through their official spokesman on

36:44

camera said they wanted to do it again

36:46

and again and again that is the purest

36:49

articulation of a genocide imaginable

36:52

and the one thing I never hear from the

36:53

pro Palestinian side is what Israel hang

36:59

don't interrupt me I ask you a question

37:01

yet one Hamas guy sorry I need to ask

37:04

you a question you're being a ridiculous

37:06

person ridiculous person I'm just saying

37:09

nobody ever tells me how many Israeli

37:11

officials even on your show have said we

37:13

should keep doing what we have been

37:15

doing to Gaza over and over again how

37:17

does that not register in the same

37:19

genocidal intent if you think what that

37:21

dude was saying which was by the way

37:23

ridiculous what he was saying the Hamas

37:24

official was saying is that we're going

37:25

to do October 7th over and over

37:28

are jied do it over and again I don't

37:30

yes I find that to be abh however what

37:32

you fail to recognize is that's the

37:34

genocidal intent but not AMC that's the

37:36

genocidal intent but not saying we are

37:38

fighting Human animals and that's why we

37:40

have to cut off their food their water

37:42

and their electricity that was defense

37:44

minister joev

37:48

Galan they don't electricity saying they

37:52

cut off their water C you are lies on

37:56

National Television

37:59

hang you're talking over each other some

38:02

of the of the comy that people they're

38:05

at war

38:07

with Israel is I'm not let information

38:11

country on the planet I swear to God it

38:14

again this is pointless uh we're getting

38:17

nowhere Israel is cutting off

38:18

electricity water and Aid just defense

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minister y Gant say we are fighting

38:24

Human animals or not answer that

38:26

question did the defense minister y

38:29

Galan say we are fighting Human animals

38:31

and we have to cut off their electricity

38:33

cut off their food cut off their

38:35

water okay you know what I'm going to

38:38

cut off c% of their electricity the rest

38:41

isas I'm going to cut off the debate

38:43

getting absolutely nowhere but I

38:45

appreciate everybody joining me thank

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you very much indeed

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