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26 Apr 202421:12

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses various aspects of the NFL draft and team strategies. It highlights the Atlanta Falcons' approach, suggesting they prioritize avoiding a bad season over winning the Super Bowl, and their decision to draft Michael Pinnix, who wasn't among the 30 prospects they brought in for a visit. The conversation also touches on the Kansas City Chiefs' draft strategy, the potential of new players like Isaiah Pacheco and Drake May, and the comparison of May to Josh Allen. There's skepticism about the success of later draft picks at the quarterback position, with historical data presented to support this view. The summary also includes commentary on the business side of football and how it impacts players like Kirk Cousins. The discussion is rich with opinions on player potential, team management, and the unpredictable nature of the draft.

Takeaways

  • 🏈 The Atlanta Falcons' strategy seems to prioritize avoiding being awful over aiming for greatness, which may be disappointing for fans.
  • 💰 The Falcons' decision to not draft a young quarterback and instead sign Kirk Cousins indicates a focus on short-term stability over long-term investment.
  • 🤔 There's skepticism about whether Michael Penix Jr. will have the opportunity to play and prove himself given the team's current trajectory.
  • 🚀 The Kansas City Chiefs' draft strategy is trusted despite initial reservations about their pick, reflecting their past successful trades.
  • 🔥 Xavier Thigpen's selection by the Chiefs is highlighted by his raw athleticism, drawing comparisons to DeSean Jackson.
  • 📉 The Buffalo Bills' trade with the Chiefs is seen as a sign of stepping back from the rivalry, acknowledging the need to recalibrate their strategy.
  • 🎯 The New York Jets' pick of Drake May is met with mixed reactions, with some doubting his readiness but acknowledging his potential.
  • 🧐 Concerns are raised about the historical success rate of quarterbacks drafted later in the first round, with a focus on the third quarterback taken.
  • 📈 The potential for Drake May to have a 'Gronkowski effect' is mentioned, suggesting he could have a significant impact on the field.
  • 🤷‍♂️ There's a debate about the value of drafting quarterbacks based on their college performance and the uniqueness of Josh Allen's development.
  • 📊 Statistical analysis is used to discuss the odds of success for quarterbacks drafted in different positions, with a focus on the historical outcomes.

Q & A

  • What is the main point of discussion regarding the Atlanta Falcons' strategy?

    -The main point of discussion is the Atlanta Falcons' decision-making process during the draft, particularly their choice to avoid taking a chance on a young quarterback and instead opting for a more immediate, albeit potentially less impactful, solution.

  • What does Kevin Clark's NFL truism suggest about some teams' approach to the Super Bowl?

    -Kevin Clark's NFL truism suggests that not every team is genuinely trying to win the Super Bowl; some are more focused on avoiding being terrible rather than striving for greatness.

  • What are the potential paths the Atlanta Falcons could have taken according to the discussion?

    -The potential paths include signing Kirk Cousins, drafting a young quarterback like Michael Vick to save money and bolster the team, or using their top 10 draft pick on an instant impact player.

  • Why is there a contradiction in the Falcons' approach as discussed?

    -The contradiction lies in the Falcons' apparent strategy to be big spenders in quarterback free agency and take a leap in the quarterback draft, which are conflicting actions if the goal is to avoid being awful and not necessarily to win the Super Bowl.

  • What is the concern about drafting a young quarterback like Michael Vick at the age of 24?

    -The concern is that the young quarterback might not get the chance to play for several years, which could lead to frustration and a lack of development, especially if they are ready to contribute immediately.

  • How does the discussion frame Kirk Cousins' situation with the Falcons?

    -The discussion frames Kirk Cousins' situation as potentially problematic due to the structure of his contract, which may not be as tradable as it could have been, and the fact that he may not be the long-term solution the Falcons are looking for.

  • What is the significance of the Kansas City Chiefs trading with the Buffalo Bills?

    -The significance is that the trade is reminiscent of past successful trades between the two teams, such as the one that led to the drafting of Patrick Mahomes, suggesting a strategic move that could benefit the Chiefs.

  • Why is there skepticism about drafting a player like Drake May?

    -Skepticism about drafting Drake May stems from concerns about his readiness to play in the NFL, comparisons to Josh Allen, and the historical success rate of quarterbacks drafted later in the first round.

  • What is the general belief about drafting quarterbacks who are not the first or second pick?

    -The general belief is that the odds of success are stacked against quarterbacks who are not the first or second pick in the draft, as historical data suggests a lower success rate for those selected later.

  • What is the discussion's stance on the value of drafting a quarterback in the NFL?

    -The discussion suggests that the value of drafting a quarterback lies not only in their on-field performance but also in the financial savings that come with a lower salary, especially for a player who may not be ready to contribute immediately.

  • How does the discussion characterize the Buffalo Bills' decision to trade with the Kansas City Chiefs?

    -The discussion characterizes the Buffalo Bills' decision as a sign of the Bills stepping back from their rivalry with the Chiefs, possibly acknowledging that they need to reorganize and recalibrate their strategy.

Outlines

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🏈 NFL Draft Strategy and Atlanta Falcons' Decisions

The first paragraph discusses the Atlanta Falcons' approach to the NFL draft and their strategy to avoid being a poor team rather than aiming for a Super Bowl win. The speaker criticizes the team's decision not to select a young quarterback to save on costs and improve the team, but instead choosing a more expensive, immediate impact player. The summary touches on the team's past decisions, the potential paths they could have taken, and the implications of their choices on their future performance and salary cap situation.

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🤔 Contemplating the Falcons' Quarterback Situation

In the second paragraph, the discussion revolves around the Falcons' quarterback situation post-draft. It explores the potential impact of drafting Michael Pinnix and the challenges he might face, including the possibility of sitting out for several years before playing. The summary also addresses the financial implications of signing Kirk Cousins and how it affects the team's flexibility and draft pick value. The speaker expresses sympathy for Pinnix and skepticism about the team's long-term planning.

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🏆 Kansas City Chiefs' Draft Pick and Strategy

The third paragraph focuses on the Kansas City Chiefs' draft strategy and their trade with the Buffalo Bills to secure a particular player. The speaker highlights the Chiefs' history of successful trades and the potential benefits of their latest move. The summary includes an analysis of the new player's athletic abilities, comparisons to other athletes like Deshawn Jackson, and the strategic advantage of lighter boxes for the team's defense.

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🎉 The Bills-Chiefs Rivalry and Draft Implications

This paragraph examines the end of the rivalry between the Buffalo Bills and the Kansas City Chiefs from the Bills' perspective, suggesting that the Bills may have stepped back from competing with the Chiefs at a Super Bowl level. The summary discusses the symbolic gesture of 'dropping the banner' and the Bills' trade decisions, indicating a recalibration of their competitive strategy. It also briefly touches on other draft picks and their potential impact.

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🚀 Drake May's Potential and the Odds for Drafted Quarterbacks

The final paragraph debates the potential of Drake May, a quarterback draftee, and the general trend of quarterbacks drafted later in the round. The speaker provides historical data on the success rates of quarterbacks picked at various spots in the draft and expresses concerns about the likelihood of late-round picks becoming successful. The summary also contrasts the potential of May with that of other draftees and discusses the 'gronkowski' factor in his favor.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Darin Ham

Darin Ham is mentioned in the context of waiting for his prom, which is likely a metaphor or humorous reference to something Ham is anticipating or has been waiting for. It's used to set a tone or make a point about expectations and reality in the context of sports events or player performances.

💡Atlanta Falcons

The Atlanta Falcons are an NFL team discussed in the script. They are portrayed as not actively trying to win the Super Bowl but rather aiming to avoid being a poor-performing team. This is a key concept as it shapes the discussion around their strategic decisions, such as their approach to the draft and free agency.

💡NFL Draft

The NFL Draft is a significant event where American football teams select eligible players to join their rosters. In the script, it's discussed in terms of strategic choices made by teams, particularly focusing on the Atlanta Falcons' decisions and how they reflect on the team's goals and management.

💡Kirk Cousins

Kirk Cousins is a professional American football quarterback who is mentioned in the context of free agency and the business side of football. The script discusses how Cousins' contract and performance may impact team dynamics and the strategic decisions of the Atlanta Falcons.

💡Michael Pinnix

Michael Pinnix is a football player who is discussed as a potential asset to the team, with considerations given to his age, experience, and potential readiness to play. The script debates whether drafting Pinnix would be a strategic move for the team, considering his skill set and the team's existing roster.

💡Free Agency

Free agency in American football refers to the period during which teams can negotiate contracts with players who are not under contract. The script discusses how free agency is used by teams to improve their roster and the implications it has for team strategy and salary cap management.

💡Salary Cap

The salary cap in professional sports is a limit on the total amount of money that teams can pay their players. In the context of the script, the salary cap is a critical factor in determining how teams can build their rosters through free agency and the draft.

💡Desmond Ritter

Desmond Ritter is mentioned in the script as a situation that the Atlanta Falcons would want to avoid. While the specific details about Ritter are not provided, the reference implies a past incident or outcome that the team considers undesirable or a failure in their management strategy.

💡Green Bay Packers

The Green Bay Packers are used as a comparative example in the script. They are discussed in relation to their draft strategy, specifically their decision to draft Jordan Love while having Aaron Rodgers on the team. This comparison is used to evaluate the Atlanta Falcons' approach to drafting and player development.

💡Kansas City Chiefs

The Kansas City Chiefs are highlighted in the script for their successful trades and draft picks, notably Patrick Mahomes. The team's management strategy and their ability to leverage trades to secure key players are discussed as a positive example in contrast to the Atlanta Falcons' approach.

💡Drake Maye

Drake Maye is a quarterback prospect discussed in the script with reference to his potential and the varying opinions on his suitability for the NFL. His comparison to Josh Allen and the discussion around taking a chance on a player with his skill set reflects on the broader theme of risk and reward in drafting players.

Highlights

The Atlanta Falcons' strategy seems to prioritize avoiding being awful over striving for greatness, which may be disappointing for fans.

Kevin Clark's NFL truism suggests that not every team is actively trying to win the Super Bowl, which is evident in the Falcons' approach.

The Falcons' decision to avoid drafting a young quarterback and instead focus on bolstering the team could be seen as a hedge against failure.

The lack of a coherent thought process regarding the Falcons' strategy in the quarterback draft and free agency is criticized.

The Falcons' approach to the draft and free agency appears to be in contradiction to their stated goals.

The selection of Michael Pinnix over other potential quarterback options raises questions about the Falcons' draft strategy.

The Green Bay Packers' strategy when drafting Jordan Love is contrasted with the Falcons' approach, highlighting differences in team readiness and draft position.

Concerns are expressed about Michael Pinnix's potential career trajectory, given the Falcons' current quarterback situation.

Kirk Cousins' contract structure is discussed, with implications for his tradeability and the Falcons' salary cap.

The possibility of a quarterback controversy in Atlanta is entertained, should Pinnix outperform expectations in practice.

The Kansas City Chiefs' draft strategy is praised, particularly their trade with the Buffalo Bills to secure a desired player.

Xavier Worthy's athleticism and potential impact on the Chiefs' offense are discussed, drawing comparisons to DeSean Jackson.

The Bills' decision to trade with the Chiefs is interpreted as a sign of stepping back from their rivalry, indicating a recalibration of their strategy.

Drake May's potential with the Detroit Lions is debated, with comparisons to Josh Allen and concerns about his readiness.

The historical success rates of quarterbacks drafted in different rounds are analyzed, with a focus on the risks associated with later-round picks.

The importance of a quarterback's college performance and physical attributes in predicting NFL success is highlighted.

Transcripts

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huge show huge show live from New York

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it's the show that's still waiting for

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Darin Ham's prom he has something he saw

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something last

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year in the fourth quarter seven G ago

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sneakily it was I think nine games ago

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wild is harder on ham than I am you know

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what he's he won't get over saw

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something he just saw you guys wait to

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game fors first things first you draft

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show so not

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good your

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reaction Kevin Clark who's I think one

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of the best people covering the league

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has said for years one of his favorite

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NFL truisms is not every team is

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actually trying to win the Super Bowl

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and that was my takeaway from this

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really the

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Falcons are not trying to win the Super

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Bowl they're trying to avoid being awful

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and they have they this is the ultimate

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hedge against bottoming out if you're

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trying to win the Super Bowl going into

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this offseason as Atlanta you have path

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one sign Kirk Cousins maybe borrow a bit

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from the future certainly use your top

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10 draft pick on an instant impact what

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you hope is an instant impact player and

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as the draft a lot of us projected that

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at eight you would have your pick of any

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defensive player that's how I had an

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every mock draft that's how it fell also

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that's that's a path another path is you

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know what we love Michael pinnick and we

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know he's a rookie but luckily he's the

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age of most guys who are on their second

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contract he has the experience of that

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so we are going to go the way a lot of

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teams have gone which is Young

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quarterback save that $100 million and

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bolster the team that way instead they

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went path three the ultimate hedge

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against their decision being a disaster

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the ultimate hedge against ever having

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to deal with a Desmond R Ritter

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situation again which is fine if your

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goal is win a bad division maybe win a

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playoff game and stay in the mix and so

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listen I I think there are pros and cons

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to pinex the prospect that we can get

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into and there's pros and cons to Kurt

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Cousins the quarterback that we can get

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into but there is no argument to be made

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made that 48 days ago when you knew your

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cap space you knew the free agency

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situation all the quarterbacks were done

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playing games and you knew where you

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were drafting that there is a coherent

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thought process of we are going to be

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the biggest Spenders in Quarterback free

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agency and take the biggest leap in the

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quarterback draft those are those are in

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contradiction and so yeah I mean it was

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shocking Brew because what the Falcons

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told me is they value not being awful

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more than they value a chance at being

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great which if I'm a Falcons fan a

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bummer I wasn't

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shocked I was

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FL

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dumbfounded

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what like you said you should have known

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if if you wanted Michael you should have

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known 48 days ago 44 days ago that you

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loved Michael pennick I get it that you

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know you still had some to go through

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but still you could have if you he's 24

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will be way they didn't bring him in he

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wasn't one of the 30 prospects they

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brought in so they don't even have the

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argument of we didn't know we'd love him

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but then he came in our building it was

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great so it was all from tape it was

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from what they watched they didn't fly

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there no they saw him but I'm saying

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they brought in 30 prospects to their

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building he wasn't one of them but go

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ahead and that doesn't help him out in

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in the public relations but if you if

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you knew if it's all on tape you should

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have you got scout team the college guys

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that Scout and they should have been

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looking at this guy hey we love this guy

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this is our opportunity y he's going to

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be there at eight this is our

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opportunity to have a quarterback he's

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24 so he's older than most college

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quarterbacks and he's ready to play now

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and he won't be making any money yeah we

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can build up our team and look what

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obviously they didn't do that and they

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tried to be the Green Bay Packers here's

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my thing that's different when the

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Packers drafted Jordan love they were a

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13- win team right they they had

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obviously Aaron Rogers was balling out

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and he was older okay but they didn't

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have as many holes right they had

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Devonte Adams they had Aaron Jones they

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had you know mvs they had a night they

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didn't have the holes that the Falcons

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have also a pick in the mid 20s is

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different than a pick at eight at eight

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that's very true you could have tra down

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and got pinck later probably I mean the

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way things were looking maybe he would

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have gone sooner than we and Jordan love

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is Jordan loves 25 going into year five

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so him sitting and waiting makes more

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sense than at 24 if it I mean ideally

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you will hope it goes well with cousins

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and he's there at least three years

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balling out let's let's just say I mean

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maybe it'll be two but let's say it goes

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well in his three years he gets you

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right close to Super Bowl contention and

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then you bring in in and he's going to

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be does he really want to sit for 3

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years at 24 years I'd be I'd be ticked

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off if I was him so I feel so people

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today and last night were like oh man

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this sucks for Kirk Cousins and with

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respect to Kirk who seems like a great

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dude I don't feel badly for Kirk at all

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not at all no when you decide I am going

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to be a football mercenary essentially

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I'm going to prioritize the business

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side of football in such a great way

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that as he has to be one of the highest

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paid players ever well sometimes the

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business side of football comes and gets

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you sometimes when you leave a when you

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go to a team that has no emotional

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connection to you that this might happen

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the guy I feel terribly for is Michael

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pennix Michael pennick who right now

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their plan is their hope is that he

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doesn't see the field until he's 26 27

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years old and let me add one other thing

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wild the other Bru point that one of the

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best things we were talking in your

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office yesterday like who's the worst

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quarterback who'd still be good if you

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got to pay him what you pay a a draft

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pick basically that would add value you

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know what I mean like if you could take

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Daniel Jones but pay him what the 10th

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pick gets does that help you so much of

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the value of drafting a quarterback is

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the the savings even if he going be

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close to making ready to make real money

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well right and for the next two years

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they'll have no savings because they're

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paying Kirk and this is this is how I

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also know the Falcons didn't plan to do

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this six weeks ago cuz if they would

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have structured Kirk's contract where

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instead of a big signing bonus it was

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guaranteed salaries then he's really

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tradable right like next year you could

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if they it's like oh it's like Alex

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Smith and Mahomes they trade Alex Smith

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but if you trade Kirk in a year you have

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a $40 million cap hit because of the

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sign at least two years or or even if

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they do trade him you don't have any of

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that savings it's just how I know this

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wasn't the plan six weeks ago um Chris

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Sims had a good tweet Brew I want your

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take on it I didn't get it but he was

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writing cousins is going to be rehabbing

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from aorn Achilles Michael penx is going

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to be throwing missiles at practice

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every day and everyone's going to notice

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do you think this could possibly flip

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and all of a sudden little quarterback

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controversy like we're going to see in

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Jacksonville well I I'm like you make

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good points and then you undercut them

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go ahead first of all there will be

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Contra if Kurt Cousins doesn't come out

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and play great like right away or by

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week four whatever there will be calls

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for Michael pin yeah all right so that's

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number one secondly though like Nick

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said I mean yeah I'm sure if they would

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love pinnick to look great in practice

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the problem is cuz then you could say

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well we can trade Kirk and maybe get

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some but like he they Str get the value

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on your cap and so people bring up you

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know Russell Wilson did it to Matt Flynn

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right but Matt Flynn's contract was not

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a mult it was a three-year deal but it

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wasn't a multi-year commitment as far as

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two the first twoe is fully guaranteed

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it wasn't at this level of salary and

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there wasn't also as much Buzz around

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Russell Wilson when they when they took

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Russell Wilson the third round nobody in

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the moment was like oh man quarterback

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of the future he went out and proved it

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and won that I just I really firmly

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believe that there is and I don't want

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to I feel badly here because I don't

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know the man but this is just the the

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way the way Terry font no operated to me

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is it is the way one would operate if

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they are putting their job security

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ahead of what's best for the you're

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kidding me for the franchise what would

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make you and so and I just here's the

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thing chasing away Bill bich well okay

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well there's that part too I forgot

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about that here's the thing about that

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well I didn't I it wasn't think we also

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know this there's no I mean yeah I like

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Michael pinnick he looked fine at

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Washington there's no guarantee he's

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gonna be that guy no of course when I

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say job security they may think so but

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even if he's not you buy yourself time

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by him just being on the bench and not

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playing like you know what I mean in a

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way that you got a couple years right

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yeah you got a couple years but if in

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two years it's a Trey land situation I'm

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not saying he plays real games way but

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in practice he doesn't look good now

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he's going to look good practice also

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for the record Trey Lance and Michael

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pinx one day apart as far as how old and

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Tre Lance's going into year four and so

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like that's the other piece of it is I

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just feel terribly for pinnick I I

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really do win the job that job is

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winnable I don't think it is winable

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right now yeah I don't Kurt Cousins on

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one Achilles cuz Kurt Cousins on one

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Achilles and you throw a beautiful ball

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what about the money I understand listen

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I know Chris Sims sent a good tweet it's

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not enough to make me believe Sher

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backed up and he won the draft oh oh

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Sher did win the I told you he's an

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oracle sher's got something weird going

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on yeah called he talks to everyone noer

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Trager won the draft but you know what

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I'm a big fan of of silver medals in my

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a goat conversation everything I'll take

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I'll take the silver watch out and

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Hollywood Brown Nick do you love this

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Wilds what do they call me Mr

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consistency I have a consistency

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conflict oh no you do on one hand on one

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hand my longstanding controversial

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belief that football is not for tiny

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people I understand people think I'm

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mean I'm mean and it's a hot take but

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the that the idea that guys who wear

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extra slim suits are probably not going

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to be my pre so that is just a general

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belief that is in conflict in conflict

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with my long-standing belief of anytime

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the Kansas City Chiefs can trade with

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the Buffalo Bills on the draft day you

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got to do it it led to the Babe Ruth

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trade of the NFL which you know I like

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to remind people what it was because it

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was you know that's how we got Patrick

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Mahomes with a trade with buffalo on

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draft

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couple years later the Chiefs jumped

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right ahead of Buffalo to get Trent

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McDuffy that of course worked out and

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now you're trading with Buffalo again to

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get this guy so when those two are in

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Conflict what do I go to I go to

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tiebreakers what does Andy Reid saying

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so Andy Reid said you know he reminds me

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of Deshawn Jackson I was like oh that's

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interesting that's interesting and so I

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want to show you brew uh H couple

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hilarious Graphics which is there's this

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raw athleticism score test 10 is perfect

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zero is non-existent here's Xavier

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worthy which is what you need to know is

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this he has basically a perfect score on

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everything and then weight he has 0.3

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because he weighs 165 lbs so at first

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blush you're like okay that that again

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how does that look compared to Deshawn

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Jackson can I see that please oh my

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goodness they're the same weight he's a

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little taller and he's more athletic how

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did does sea look with Andy Reid okay

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good so short version is this Brew

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biggest winner of this is Isaiah Pacho

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because you're going to have lighter

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boxes because you know what I mean if

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you can't catch him you got to be over

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the top and it is not the pick that I

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thought they were going to make it's not

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the pick I would have made because of my

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allergy to Tiny players but I trust the

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Chiefs and if you can trade with the

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bills you trade with the bills so I like

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how about that look I said yesterday you

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got a Ferrari and you're treat him like

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a Toyota now you are finally treating

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him once again like a Ferrari and and

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look as much as it's going to pay me I

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don't want to see any more banners

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confetti love Kansas City but I don't

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know that I want to go there next year

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in February okay all right but I'm G

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have to deal with all this from Nick

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because it's this I love it I love it I

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mean you mentioned Deshawn Jackson how

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about Devonte Smith he's small too he's

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great and and as good as Deshawn was and

13:31

Michael Vic that that year in Philly and

13:33

all that he a have Patrick Mahomes

13:35

throwing him the football what Mahomes

13:37

is gonna make this dude a superstar well

13:40

I I really believe that and as you it's

13:42

gonna open everybody up everything up

13:44

for Pacho for the receivers underneath

13:47

for Travis like it's gone this is a

13:49

great also on the board he just can't

13:51

get open well ex that Xavier worthy K

13:55

yeah I'm just saying it just gets a

13:56

little bit whoop and that like really

13:59

have to get off press coverage of course

14:01

but he runs when you run a 42 you can

14:03

get over and you know it so here's the

14:04

thing I don't that's not my concern okay

14:07

because he didn't play small college

14:09

football he played Big Time college

14:11

football and unlike other speedsters

14:13

like John Ross or others he was highly

14:16

productive every year the only year he

14:18

wasn't was when he broke his hand which

14:19

a hand injury I don't think it's because

14:21

you're skinny uh my concern is not that

14:23

he's not going to be able to get open I

14:24

think he'll be highly productive similar

14:27

the the when people were talking about

14:28

him first I brought up tank Dell tank

14:30

Dell was unbelievable and then he got

14:32

hurt my concern is not that and it's not

14:35

that tank Dell won't be good again but I

14:37

think he'll be highly productive when

14:38

he's on the field it also the Chiefs now

14:40

will be starting three sub four4 guys

14:44

P's a 437 Hollywood's a 427 and this

14:48

guy's the fastest guy ever but the other

14:50

piece of this is and credit to them

14:53

credit to them for knowing when you're

14:55

beat this is also the bills waving the

14:58

white flag on the Rivalry so dusty drop

15:00

the banner I know Bruce said he's sick

15:02

of them but please it'll drop

15:06

promise Dusty you can do it maybe it won

15:09

I'll Des Dusty you got it come on Dust

15:12

oh there it is oh that seems sad rest in

15:15

peace the bills Chief's

15:18

rivalry is true no because if the bills

15:21

thought they were still the the bills

15:24

understood and understand got to take a

15:27

step back got to reorganize got

15:29

recalibrate so they're not competing

15:31

with the Chiefs not with the chief they

15:33

still I'm sure they still think they can

15:34

make the playoff and they can't that

15:36

division but if they thought they were

15:37

competing with the Chiefs for a Super

15:39

Bowl they don't trade with the Chiefs to

15:42

let the Chiefs move up and get their guy

15:44

the only sport show with a gravestone

15:46

prominently displayed R past

15:49

me finally the team of the century grabs

15:53

Drake May at three to replace and if

15:56

you're holding a drink pour it on your

15:58

carpet ma Jones Bel was on with McAfee

16:01

and had this read Drake Compares himself

16:03

a lot to Josh Allen we'll see about that

16:06

I think there are some comparisons with

16:07

the size in athleticism but Josh Allen

16:10

is a pretty special player sure Brew do

16:12

you think I should be happy because I am

16:15

you were going to be happy no matter who

16:16

it was not it was JJ McCarthy I mean you

16:19

really would you

16:21

would America all fall in line I would

16:23

fall in line but I wouldn't have been

16:24

happy I would have fallen in line but

16:26

now I'm happy I I I do think you should

16:28

be happy than look I got my doubts about

16:30

Drake may but one he does have upside

16:33

yeah I I think that's the thing like I

16:35

don't think he's ready right now you can

16:37

put sitting behind jacobe brassette for

16:39

a season or you know he can play the

16:41

last few games I think more than I think

16:45

in the teens teens yeah I think I I want

16:47

to see him the last few games 10 games

16:50

after the B we'll see where the B is you

16:52

know what we'll see where the B but but

16:53

the bottom line is he jom veret is a

16:55

smart quarterback he can learn from him

16:57

yep hopefully for next season they start

16:59

to build give him some weapons that's oh

17:02

right you got time for that and he can

17:03

learn so the bottom line is he's got

17:06

more potential than the M Jones and no

17:09

listen he actually see reaches up to

17:12

right to me he's kind of the opposite as

17:16

a prospect of Mac now Mac I thought was

17:19

high floor low ceiling it turns out he

17:21

was low floor low ceiling I mean no

17:23

that's what it turned out unfortunately

17:25

that's what I'm saying is let's hope

17:27

they don't screw around and give

17:30

special teams coaches Drake May has more

17:34

variance to me than any of these

17:36

quarterback prospects you know what I

17:38

mean in that it's on the board that he

17:41

is Mitch trabis sure but it's also on

17:44

the board that he is you know a lesser

17:46

Jos well I would say a lesser version of

17:49

Josh Allen 2.0 I do I have two concerns

17:52

here Brew one is whenever people say use

17:55

the Josh Allen comp it feels a lot to me

17:58

to mix metaphors when NBA people are

18:01

talking they're like trying to be the 04

18:03

Pistons I'm like okay yes it did happen

18:06

but it's not really duplicable like a

18:09

guy improving his accuracy improving his

18:12

the reason Josh Allen is such a unique

18:13

story is because we'd never seen a guy

18:16

go from that in college to that now

18:18

Drake was better than Josh in college in

18:19

a bigger program but the other part of

18:22

it is just the history of any

18:25

quarterback that isn't the first or

18:28

second quarterback taken in a draft

18:29

right so I I'll give it to you real

18:31

quick just very quickly here and this

18:33

applies to Nicks pennick McCarthy all of

18:35

them so I just went for every draft from

18:38

year 2000 to now there's 24 drafts of

18:42

the those 24 drafts the first

18:44

quarterback taken not number one overall

18:47

I his first quarterback taken 11 of the

18:49

24 worked out objectively for the team

18:52

that drafted him second quarterback it's

18:54

eight of the 24 for the third fourth

18:57

fifth or sixth

18:59

it's four or less for every single spot

19:02

this Century yes four or less guys so so

19:06

I'm so like the third quarterback taken

19:08

in the draft who are those the well the

19:10

Herbert the right Herbert and Josh Allen

19:12

Herbert Josh Allen and one more a all

19:16

there's one more Big Ben Herbert Josh

19:18

Allen Big Ben were the and there's one

19:20

more D he was D was eighth best was the

19:25

eighth quarterback Tak so you didn't

19:27

count cuz there's other no of course my

19:30

I mean it's at his point was the ninth

19:32

quarterback can I tell you something I

19:35

overheard Nick trying to come up with

19:37

this and I researched it myself okay

19:39

that's he's like say there's where was

19:41

Jaylen Herz number so Jaylen Herz was I

19:44

think the fourth quarterback taken and

19:47

Lamar was the fifth so right Brew that's

19:50

my point so the the third quarterback

19:52

taken has worked out for four of the 24

19:55

teams have done it the fourth

19:56

quarterback taken has worked out for two

19:58

of the 24 teams the fifth quarterback

20:00

taken has worked out for three of the 24

20:01

teams Lamar is one of them the sixth

20:03

quarterback taken has worked out for two

20:05

of the 24 teams now historically those

20:07

guys aren't top you know three picks

20:09

usually and certainly not first round

20:11

picks I get it my simple point

20:14

is you the odds are stacked against you

20:17

even at taking the second quarterback so

20:21

I think I don't buy that I don't buy

20:23

that because there there have been so

20:25

heck most of the greatest quarterbacks

20:28

were not drafted that early right but

20:30

there but that dismisses Brew the long

20:33

list of second rounders I get that but

20:35

I'm just but I can name a bunch of

20:37

number one picks and number two picks

20:39

recently who didn't pan out I mean I get

20:42

the odds and stuff but I I'm just saying

20:43

the odds are stacked against him is all

20:45

I'm saying I disagree I think they're

20:46

stacked for him okay he's got a little

20:48

gronowski thing going on him his

20:51

brothers yeah they're like grank would

20:53

have been a bad quarterback grank yeah

20:55

bad quarter this is a quarterback not a

20:57

tight but yeah got

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