J. Cole Responded and It's Bad

fantano
5 Apr 202408:38

Summary

TLDRIn the video transcript, the reviewer discusses J. Cole's response to Kendrick Lamar through a new track on a surprise release titled 'Might Delete Later'. The reviewer criticizes the instrumental as weak and the beat as unconvincing. They also analyze Cole's lyrics, suggesting that his heart doesn't seem to be in the diss track and that the response feels half-hearted. Despite the lackluster attempt, the reviewer acknowledges the complexity of the situation, noting that the hip-hop community's expectations and the pressure to engage in such disputes might not align with Cole's artistic vision or personal feelings.

Takeaways

  • đŸŽ” J. Cole released a surprise track responding to Kendrick Lamar, titled 'might delete later'.
  • đŸŽ¶ The instrumental of the track was criticized as weak and lacking impact.
  • đŸŽ€ J. Cole's vocal delivery was described as half-hearted and underwhelming.
  • đŸ”„ The lyrics suggest that J. Cole perceives the challenge as easy, with the line 'light work like it's PWC'.
  • 🌐 The chorus is considered forgettable and lacks the catchiness J. Cole is known for.
  • 💡 J. Cole uses a simile comparing himself to The Simpsons, which was deemed not impactful.
  • 🏆 J. Cole acknowledges Kendrick Lamar's classic albums but criticizes his more recent work.
  • 🔄 Kendrick Lamar is known for his aggressive stances and challenges towards contemporaries.
  • đŸ€ș The second verse of J. Cole's track switches to a better instrumental but maintains a tone of reluctance.
  • đŸš« The overall assessment of J. Cole's response is that it lacks the heart and interest he usually puts into his work.

Q & A

  • What is the title of J. Cole's project in response to Kendrick Lamar?

    -The title of J. Cole's project is 'might delete later'.

  • How does the commentator describe the instrumental of the track?

    -The commentator describes the instrumental as weak, lacking in strength and conviction.

  • What is J. Cole's initial attitude towards the diss track according to the transcript?

    -J. Cole's initial attitude is described as half-hearted and underwhelming, suggesting he didn't really want to engage in the diss track.

  • What is the commentator's take on the phrase 'cold world' used in the chorus?

    -The commentator views the phrase 'cold world' as overused and lacking originality, having lost its appeal over time.

  • How does the commentator describe the impact of the Simpsons simile used by J. Cole?

    -The commentator finds the simile to be weak and a strange admission, as The Simpsons is still a popular and influential show despite its long run.

  • What does the commentator say about Kendrick Lamar's history with contemporaries?

    -The commentator notes that Kendrick Lamar has a history of being aggressive with some of his contemporaries and often throws out challenges.

  • How does the commentator view J. Cole's reference to Stone Temple Pilots?

    -The commentator finds the reference to Stone Temple Pilots to be out of place and not fitting the tone of a diss track, describing it as silly and goofy.

  • What is the commentator's overall assessment of J. Cole's response track?

    -The commentator considers the response track to be weak and not reflective of J. Cole's true Artistry or capability, as it seems he wasn't genuinely interested in engaging in such a response.

  • Why does the commentator sympathize with J. Cole despite the track being mediocre?

    -The commentator sympathizes with J. Cole because it appears he didn't want to engage in the diss track and it doesn't reflect his true intentions or direction for his career.

  • What does the commentator suggest about the expectations of the hip-hop community?

    -The commentator suggests that the hip-hop community can be toxic in its expectations, pressuring artists to engage in conflicts they may not be interested in, and potentially leading to unfavorable public opinion if they choose not to participate.

Outlines

00:00

đŸŽ¶ J. Cole's Response to Kendrick Lamar: An Underwhelming Retort

This paragraph discusses J. Cole's reaction to Kendrick Lamar through a new track on his surprise release, 'might delete later.' The critique focuses on the track's instrumental, describing it as weak and lacking impact. It also analyzes Cole's vocal delivery as half-hearted, suggesting his reluctance to engage in the feud. The lyrics are examined, pointing out the repetitive use of 'cold world' and the forgettable nature of the chorus. The paragraph further delves into the similes and metaphors used, questioning their effectiveness and relevance. It concludes by addressing the core criticism of J. Cole's music being boring and the irony of his current position in the rap hierarchy.

05:03

đŸ•Šïž J. Cole's Reluctance and the Toxicity of Hip-Hop's Expectations

This paragraph delves into J. Cole's reluctance to fully engage in a diss track against Kendrick Lamar. It highlights the pressure from the hip-hop community for a strong response and Cole's stated intention to maintain a stance of peace. The summary critiques the wordiness of the lyrics and the lack of impactful punches, despite some clever wordplay. It also discusses the complex emotions behind the response, suggesting that J. Cole's true feelings might be misinterpreted as weakness. The paragraph ends by sympathizing with J. Cole's position, recognizing that his lack of enthusiasm for the diss track does not diminish his artistic talent or credibility.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡J Cole

J Cole is a prominent figure in the hip-hop community known for his introspective lyrics and storytelling abilities. In the context of the video, he is the subject of discussion as he has released a track in response to Kendrick Lamar. His approach to the situation and the content of his response are analyzed, highlighting his reluctance to engage in the diss track culture and his focus on artistic integrity over controversy.

💡Kendrick Lamar

Kendrick Lamar is a highly acclaimed rapper recognized for his thought-provoking lyrics and innovative musical style. In the video, he is portrayed as an aggressive contemporary who has challenged J Cole, sparking a discussion about the nature of competition and the expectations within the hip-hop community.

💡Diss Track

A diss track is a song in which an artist criticizes or insults another artist, often as a response to a perceived slight or conflict. In the video, the focus is on J Cole's release of a track in response to Kendrick Lamar, analyzing the quality and intent behind his contribution to this form of artistic expression.

💡Artistry

Artistry refers to the creative skill and expressive ability of an individual, particularly in the context of the arts. In the video, artistry is a central theme as it discusses the quality of J Cole's response track and contrasts it with the artistry displayed in Kendrick Lamar's work.

💡Hip-Hop Culture

Hip-hop culture encompasses the various elements that comprise the musical genre of hip-hop, including rap music, DJing, breakdancing, and graffiti art. The video delves into one aspect of hip-hop culture: the tradition of rappers engaging in verbal battles or 'beefs' through diss tracks, and how this practice influences the perception of artists within the community.

💡Lyricism

Lyricism in music refers to the use of language in a poetic and expressive manner, particularly in songwriting. In the context of the video, lyricism is a critical aspect of evaluating the quality of a diss track and the skill of the rappers involved. The analysis focuses on the effectiveness of J Cole's lyrics in comparison to Kendrick Lamar's.

💡Beat

In music, a beat refers to the rhythmic foundation of a song, often created by a producer and providing the structure for the rapper's lyrics. The quality of a beat can significantly impact the overall reception of a track. In the video, the beat of J Cole's response track is criticized for being weak and not enhancing the listening experience.

💡Vocal Delivery

Vocal delivery refers to the way a singer or rapper performs their lyrics, including aspects such as tone, emotion, and clarity. In the context of the video, vocal delivery is a significant factor in evaluating the effectiveness of a diss track. The critique of J Cole's vocal delivery indicates a lack of conviction and energy.

💡Chorus

The chorus is the recurring part of a song that is typically memorable and carries the main theme or message. In the video, the critique of J Cole's chorus highlights its lack of catchiness and memorability, which are essential qualities for a successful track in the context of popular music.

💡Simile

A simile is a figure of speech that makes a comparison between two different things, often using the words 'like' or 'as.' In the context of the video, the use of similes in J Cole's lyrics is analyzed for its effectiveness in conveying his message and enhancing the artistic quality of the track.

💡Rap Feud

A rap feud refers to a conflict or disagreement between rappers that is expressed through their music, often in the form of diss tracks. The video discusses the dynamics of such feuds and the expectations placed on artists to engage in these exchanges, exploring the reluctance of J Cole to participate fully in this particular feud with Kendrick Lamar.

Highlights

Jason Herbert Coleman II (J. Cole) responds to Kendrick Lamar with a new track.

The track is part of a surprise release project titled 'might delete later'.

The instrumental of the track is criticized as weak and lacking impact.

J. Cole's vocal delivery is described as half-hearted and underwhelming.

The phrase 'cold world' is used, which is considered overused and lacking originality.

The chorus is deemed forgettable and not catchy.

J. Cole uses a simile comparing himself to The Simpsons, which is considered a weak comparison.

Kendrick Lamar's influence and classic moments in his career are praised.

J. Cole's criticism of Kendrick's more recent work is highlighted.

The line 'your second [album] put dudes to sleep' is a bold critique.

J. Cole mentions his own success and position in the industry.

The beat switch in the second verse is praised as better than the initial beat.

J. Cole expresses reluctance to engage in a toxic back-and-forth.

The phrase 'SWAT and a fly' is used to describe a potential powerful response.

J. Cole's use of Stone Temple Pilots references is considered out of place and ineffective.

The response track is seen as a warning shot rather than a serious diss.

The overall assessment is that J. Cole's heart wasn't in the response, affecting the track's quality.

Despite the track's perceived weaknesses, J. Cole's artistry and capability are not questioned.

Transcripts

00:00

Jason Herbert Coleman II Jor responded

00:08

to Kendrick Lamar in the form of a brand

00:12

new track the closing track on a

00:15

surprise release from Cole a project

00:18

titled might delete later before I get

00:20

into the lines right off the bat I'm

00:22

going to say instrumentally this track

00:24

is weak as hell no sauce on this beat

00:27

why is Cole firing back at Kendrick with

00:29

this PE pew like synth trap beat this

00:31

does not sound hard convincing and even

00:35

Cole's vocal delivery off the bat in the

00:37

song is half-hearted and underwhelming

00:39

he clearly didn't want to do this which

00:42

will be further illustrated by the bars

00:45

on the track let's go light work like

00:47

it's PWC Cole is telling us this is

00:49

going to be easy uh it's a cold world

00:52

keep the heat under your seat it's not a

00:54

J Cole song unless he's doing some kind

00:56

of coold world cold world pun we've

01:00

heard it a million times it is not

01:02

clever it was never clever what whatever

01:05

appeal it had has lost its luster over

01:07

the decade you've been using it and this

01:09

is the chorus by the way I got a phone

01:11

call they say that somebody dissing uh

01:13

you want some attention it come with

01:16

extensions my dog likes say the word he

01:18

on some [ __ ] he itching I mean the

01:20

rhyme scheme is not bad but it's a very

01:22

wordy chus and when you actually listen

01:25

to it in the context of the song it's

01:27

utterly forgettable on impact like

01:30

clearly Cole is not trying to sell us on

01:32

the appeal of this track being catchy uh

01:34

he's still doing shows but fell off like

01:36

The Simpsons I mean not only does this

01:39

simile not hit hard at all but isn't

01:43

this like a really weird admission even

01:45

in its fallen off State The Simpsons is

01:48

a massively popular and influential show

01:51

that uh still to this day is the

01:54

archetype for every other animated

01:57

sitcom comedy style show on television

02:00

and I predict a similar thing with

02:01

Kendrick Lamar even if 10 20 years from

02:03

now he's coming out with records that

02:05

aren't as good as good kid Mad City

02:07

because of those classic influential

02:09

moments in his back catalog people are

02:11

probably still going to listen to his

02:12

new stuff even me your first [ __ ] was

02:14

classic your last [ __ ] was tragic good

02:17

kid Mad City Classic Mr morale tragic

02:19

how it was one of Kendrick's boldest

02:22

most experimental most adventurous

02:24

albums yet your second [ __ ] put dudes to

02:26

sleep but they gassed at teab being

02:29

boring is like the core criticism you

02:31

could make of most of J Cole's catalog

02:33

so in a way this line is kind of

02:35

projection your third [ __ ] was massive

02:38

and that was your Prime I was trailing

02:39

right behind and I just now hit mine

02:42

okay now I'm at the front of the line

02:44

comfortable lead how ironic soon as I

02:46

got it now he wants something with me

02:48

well he caught me at the perfect time

02:50

jump up and see well in Kendrick's

02:51

defense uh whether I Vibe with this as a

02:55

stance or a general attitude from him or

02:57

not uh he has a history of being like

02:59

you know kind of aggressive with some of

03:02

his contemporaries and just like kind of

03:03

throwing shots out there as a challenge

03:06

I don't know if he's simply doing this

03:08

just because you've gotten to a certain

03:10

level of popularity uh boy I got here

03:13

off bars not no

03:15

controversy really I mean while Kendrick

03:17

has had these moments where he has been

03:19

polarizing and has like stirred the pot

03:23

I I I I don't know I think it's pretty

03:25

safe to assume that like the core appeal

03:27

of Kendrick is

03:30

uh his albums and the Artistry that goes

03:33

into them sure while this recent

03:35

metroboomin disc was very much discussed

03:38

and obviously fans remember the control

03:40

verse uh it's it's really good kid Mad

03:43

City it's tab it's Dam it's those

03:46

classic records that stand tall in his

03:48

catalog and remain his most popular most

03:51

disgust material not just the disses

03:53

further down he says that Kendrick

03:55

averages uh one hard verse every 30

03:58

months and that if if he wasn't dissing

04:00

then we wouldn't be discussing him which

04:03

I don't know if Cole has gone on hipop

04:06

Twitter at all lately but uh even when

04:08

Kendrick has not dropped people are

04:10

talking about Kendrick and even even

04:13

when that dude farts or posts a random

04:15

picture to his uh you know burner Fina

04:19

account um people are talking about it

04:22

closes the verse out with a meme

04:23

reference boring chorus and then we go

04:26

into verse two which has a beat switch

04:29

into into a conductor Williams

04:31

instrumental that frankly is way better

04:33

than the beat the song kicks off with

04:35

like if Cole was going to give us a diss

04:38

track or a response track it it should

04:40

have been with this instrumental off the

04:42

bat however when we go deeper into this

04:45

second verse here the tone is changed a

04:47

little bit a lot of Cole's references to

04:50

the disc are like I don't want to

04:51

respond I'm a guy of Peace but if I have

04:54

to I will I'll get violent I mean he

04:57

does say your arms might be too short to

04:59

box with the god Kendrick Lamar famously

05:02

short King 56 criteria is criteria but

05:06

yeah he goes on also about my text

05:09

flooded with the hunger for a toxic

05:11

reply I'm hesitant I love my brother but

05:14

I'm not going to lie I'm powered up for

05:15

real that [ __ ] would feel like SWAT and

05:18

a fly okay so what is Cole saying here

05:21

that like this response isn't actually

05:24

the disc this isn't him like really

05:26

coming at Kendrick in the way that he

05:27

could if he wanted to I mean

05:30

maybe that's true but it just kind of

05:32

feels like cope cuz if you could go

05:35

harder and if you really could like

05:36

snuff Kendrick out lyrically I would

05:38

think that even like the little tastes

05:41

here that you gave us or the shots that

05:42

you put out there preliminarily uh would

05:45

be a bit stronger and would amount more

05:47

to like your last album is tragic and

05:49

your second album was boring and what is

05:51

this M&M ass bar over here fly pebbles

05:53

at your Dome we the Stone Temple Pilots

05:57

now I got to imagine jcole vibing to St

05:59

p in his 9s rock mix like on on a Sunday

06:05

afternoon

06:07

forward between L look it's a cute bit

06:11

of word play I would laugh at it

06:13

probably in another context or see it as

06:15

cute but this is like not tone of a a

06:18

dis type writing this is just a little

06:20

silly and goofy this is a warning shot

06:22

telling you guys to back down watch out

06:25

there are more Stone Temple Pilots bars

06:27

where this came from I mean he might

06:28

throw out a push or a Vaseline reference

06:31

your career's cained as I've reached

06:34

nirvana watch what I do the audience

06:36

Applause while I fight this foood

06:38

switching sides like the tassel on the

06:40

cap and gown okay I'm I'm sorry I'm done

06:43

I'm done here this is a weak dis clearly

06:46

jcole did not want to do this and yet he

06:48

did it anyway I mean I sort of get it

06:51

the the the hip-hop fandom is toxic in

06:53

such a way that if jcole did kind of

06:55

come out and and and was serious and was

06:57

real uh about how he actually felt about

06:59

this and was just like I don't want to

07:01

do this guys I think it's kind of lame I

07:02

I'm I'm obviously not really with

07:05

dissing and fighting and arguing like

07:07

this that was literally the point of the

07:09

line to begin with that Kendrick is

07:10

responding to in an unnecessarily

07:12

aggressive way like that would be valid

07:15

that would be real that would be true

07:18

that would be so [ __ ] down to earth

07:20

and and honestly just reality but if Jak

07:22

CLE did that if he actually said that in

07:24

response like just kind of put it out

07:26

there uh boldly and plainly uh all all

07:30

the fans would clown him and just be

07:31

like oh you're lame you [ __ ] [ __ ]

07:35

which honestly sucks so it's important

07:36

to point out even if Kendrick is kind of

07:38

ahead here and is winning in this back

07:41

and forth in terms of lyricism stance

07:44

attitude like obviously he's appealing

07:46

to the crowd more people are kind of

07:48

favoring him a bit more in this beef

07:50

yeah that may be true but in no way has

07:52

jle asked for this at least that's how

07:55

it looks from an outsider's perspective

07:57

and while this track this response does

08:00

kind of blow it's not really a shot

08:02

against J Cole's Artistry or credibility

08:05

because I think what the problem

08:06

ultimately is here is that his heart

08:08

really wasn't into a response like this

08:12

and that's why it's not good it's not

08:13

because he doesn't have the talent it's

08:14

not because he doesn't have the Artistry

08:16

or the capability I I think he does but

08:18

he just doesn't care and he's not

08:19

interested and this isn't what he wants

08:21

to do with his career and again even if

08:23

this track is mid which it very much is

08:26

I can sympathize with that let me know

08:27

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