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COMING UP ON JERUSALEM DATELINE

ISRAELI MINISTER NETANYAHU SAYS

ISRAEL WILL FIGHT WITH ITS

NAILS.

IT HAS TO.

AFTER PRESIDENT BIDEN SAYS THE

U.S. WILL HALT CERTAIN

AMMUNITION IF ISRAEL ATTACKS

DEEPER INTO RAFAH.

OUR CIVILIAN DEATHS IN GAZA ARE

BEING USED AS A PROPAGANDA TOOL

SOME SAY YES AND ADVOCACY

GROUPS THAT INSTIGATED PROTEST.

A U.S. UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES TO

USE AS A SECOND BATTLE FRONT BY

HAMAS.

ALL THIS AND MORE COMING UP ON

THIS EDITION OF JERUSALEM

DATELINE.

>> HELLO AND WELCOME TO THIS

EDITION OF JERUSALEM DATELINE

I'M CHRIS MITCHELL.

ISRAELI LEADERS RESPONDED TO

PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN

ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THE U.S. WILL

STOP SUPPLYING CERTAIN

AMMUNITION FOR ISRAEL'S

OPERATION TO DEFEAT HAMAS IN

RAFAH.

IT REPRESENTS A WATERSHED

MOMENT IN ISRAEL'S HISTORY.

ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN

NETANYAHU HAD ALREADY PROMISED

EARLIER THIS WEEK THAT IF

ISRAEL HAD TO GO ALONE IN ITS

WAR AGAINST HAMAS THEY WOULD GO

IT ALONE.

AFTER PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN SAID

HE WOULD WITHHOLD KEY IF ISRAEL

LAUNCHED A MAJOR OPERATION IN

RAFAH, NETANYAHU REPEATED HIS

PLEDGE ON THE EVE OF THE

INDEPENDENCE DAY.

>> I FEEL MUCH MORE IN THE WAR

OF INDEPENDENCE 76 YEARS AGO WE

WERE FEW AGAINST MANY.

WE HAD NO WEAPONS.

THERE WAS AN ARMS EMBARGO ON

ISRAEL BUT WITH THE GREATNESS

OF SPIRIT, BRAVERY AND UNITY

AMONG US WE WON.

TODAY WE ARE MUCH STRONGER.

WE'RE DETERMINED.

WE'RE UNITED TO DEFEAT OUR

ENEMY AND THOSE WHO SEEK OUR

SOULS.

IF WE HAVE TO STAND ALONE WE

WILL STAND ALONE.

I'VE ALREADY THAT IF WE HAVE TO

WE WILL FIGHT WITH OUR

FINGERNAILS.

BUT HAVE MUCH MORE THAN

FINGERNAILS AND WITH THE SAME

GREATNESS OF SPIRIT WITH GOD'S

HELP WE WILL WIN TOGETHER.

>> DESPITE BIDEN'S WEAPONS

EMBARGO, IDF CHIEF SPOKESMAN

THE MILITARY HAS WHAT IT NEEDS

TO FINISH THE JOB.

>> LET'S UNLEASH A MACHINE.

THE ARMY HAS MUNITIONS, THE

MISSIONS IT HAS PLANNED AND FOR

THE MISSIONS IN RAFAH TOO.

WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED.

I SAY THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF

EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED WITH

THE UNITED STATES AND IT'S

IMPORTANT TO SAY IT.

>> IDF RESERVE LIEUTENANT

COLONEL ELDER TOLD CBS NEWS.

BIDEN'S MOVE HELPS HAMAS.

>> UNFORTUNATELY THE WAR WILL

BE LONGER BECAUSE HAMAS TOOK

COURAGE FROM THIS DECISION, HE

SAID.

THE US IS AGAINST NOW SO WE CAN

CONTINUE NOT TO ALLOW THEY

RELEASED THE KIDNAPED.

IT MEANS THAT MORE PEOPLE WILL

PROBABLY BE HATED BECAUSE

ISRAEL WILL HAVE TO DO MORE

FORCE IN ORDER TO MAKE HAMAS

AGREE THESE AGREEMENTS.

>> DRAW SAYS MIDDLE EAST IS

WATCHING THE MIDDLE EAST IS NOT

JUST ISRAEL AND HAMAS.

EVERYTHING I REMIND YOU THAT

THE MIDDLE EAST STILL

REMEMBERING WHAT HAPPENED WITH

THE WITHDRAWAL OF THE US

AFGHANISTAN.

IT WAS JUST TWO YEARS AGO AND

THE US IN THEIR OPINION

BETRAYAL THE ALLIES NOW IT'S

THE SAME IT'S THE SAME MESSAGE.

>> BIDEN ALSO FACING CRITICISM

IN WASHINGTON FROM BOTH

DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS WITH

SOME CONSERVATIVES TELLING THE

ADMINISTRATION IT IS AIDING

HAMAS'S LEADERS AND ITS LAST

FOUR BATTALIONS ARE HOLED UP IN

RAFAH.

SO ISRAEL HAS TO DEFEAT HAMAS

IN RAFAH.

TO WIN HAMAS WINS IF IT

SURVIVES IN RAFAH.

AND JOE BIDEN HAS THREATENED TO

WITHHOLD WEAPONS FROM ISRAEL

FOR FIGHTING IN RAFAH.

THEREFORE JOE BIDEN OBJECT

OBJECTIVELY FAVORS A VICTORY

OVER ISRAEL.

>> ISRAEL IS ALSO LOOKING AHEAD

TO WHAT COULD BE THE NEXT WAR

AGAINST HEZBOLLAH AS DEFENSE

MINISTER YOAV GALLANT

REINFORCED TO THE TROOPS.

ISRAEL'S GOALS OF DESTROYING

THE TERRORIST GROUP TELLING

TROOPS THIS COULD BE A HOT

SUMMER.

BUT FOR NOW THE FOCUS IS

FINISHING OFF HAMAS AND RAFAH

AS ISRAELI FORCES TAKING OUT

TERRORISTS AND KEEPING UP THEIR

OFFENSIVE IN GAZA.

>> ISRAEL IS DOWNPLAYING THE

THREAT OF PRESIDENT THREAT

SAYING THEY CAN GO IT ALONE IN

RAFAH.

HERE'S WHAT BIDEN SAID IN HIS

INTERVIEW WITH CNN.

>> I MADE IT CLEAR THAT IF THEY

GO INTO RAFAH THEY HAVEN'T GONE

ON RAFAH YET.

THEY GO INTO RAFA.

I'M NOT SUPPLYING THE WEAPONS

THAT HAVE BEEN USED

HISTORICALLY TO DEAL WITH RAFAH

AND DEAL WITH CITIES TO DEAL

WITH THAT PROBLEM.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAKE

SURE ISRAEL IS SECURE IN TERMS

OF IRON DOME, THEIR ABILITY TO

RESPOND TO ATTACKS.

I CAME OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST

RECENTLY.

BUT IT'S IT'S JUST WRONG.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO SUPPLY

WEAPONS AND ARTILLERY SHELLS

USE THAT AVENUE ARTILLERY AS

WELL.

>> YEAH, ARTILLERY SHELLS.

I'M JOINED BY CBSN MIDDLE EAST

ANALYST JOHN HAGEE TO TALK MORE

ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE U.S. TO

ISRAEL.

JOHN, WHAT IMPACT IS THIS GOING

TO HAVE HERE IN ISRAEL?

WELL, I THINK, CHRIS, THE

IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER IS

PRESIDENT BIDEN I THINK IN

BIDEN'S MIND HE REALLY DOES

HAVE AN IRONCLAD RELATIONSHIP

WITH ISRAEL.

HE'S GOT ONE SMALL PROBLEM AND

THAT IS THAT ISRAELIS ELECTED

AND HAVE ELECTED SINCE 2009

BENJAMIN NETANYAHU AND BIDEN

AND HIS ADMINISTRATION HAVE

BEEN CLEAR THEY WANT OUT.

AND SO EACH STEP ALONG THE WAY

AND NOW IT'S COME TO

WITHHOLDING MILITARY AMMUNITION

BOMBS BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE

DOUBLING DOWN ON THIS TO GET

RID OF NETANYAHU.

AND ANYMORE THEY'RE NOT EVEN

MAKING A SECRET IT.

AND SO THAT'S THEIR POLITICAL

TARGET.

BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO DEAL

WITH AN ISRAEL WHOSE THE NATION

IS ESSENTIALLY BEHIND NETANYAHU

IN FINISHING THE JOB IN RAFA.

HE DOESN'T REALLY HAVE MUCH

CHOICE.

HE KNOWS THAT THE COUNTRY HAS

TO ELIMINATE THIS THREAT.

AND SO YOU HAVE THE THE CLASH

OF THE TWO CAPITALS OF

WASHINGTON AND JERUSALEM.

IT'S NOT TOTAL CLASH OF

CAPITALS BECAUSE THE CONGRESS

MANY PEOPLE IN THE UNITED

STATES ARE SIDING WITH ISRAEL

AGAINST, THE BIDEN

ADMINISTRATION.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP

HAVING THIS CLASH UNTIL

ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER GIVES IN

IT APPEARS ISRAEL'S READY TO

MAKE THE MOVE AND CONTINUE IT

THROUGH TO THE END RAFAH.

YEAH, AND AS WE SAW TOM COTTON

IN OUR REPORT AND ALSO LINDSEY

GRAHAM HAD A FIERY

CONFRONTATION WITH FLOYD AUSTIN

,DEFENSE SECRETARY AND BOTH

LEADERS IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE

FOR THE REPUBLICANS HAVE

WRITTEN AN OPEN LETTER TO BIDEN

BASICALLY ASKING HIM TO EXPLAIN

AND GIVE A TIMETABLE FOR WHEN

ISRAEL IS GOING TO BE

RESUPPLIED AND IF THEY'RE NOT

GOING TO BE TELL CONGRESS.

AND SO A LOT GOING ON FROM THE

MILITARY SIDE.

CHRIS, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN IN

TOUCH WITH A COUPLE HIGH PEOPLE

AND WHAT DID WHAT WAS THEIR

REACTION, THE MILITARY SIDE OF

THINGS?

>> WELL, I WAS TALKING TO

YAAKOV AHMED.

HE'S RETIRED GENERAL BUT HE'S A

FORMER HEAD OF THE IDF MILITARY

INTELLIGENCE.

HE WAS SAYING IT'S NOT JUST

RAFAH BUT THE ACTUALLY THE MORE

IMPORTANT IS WHAT'S GOING ON IN

THE NORTH.

HE BELIEVES THEY HAVE ENOUGH

MUSICIANS TO DEAL WITH THE

OPERATION IN RAFAH.

BUT THE QUESTION IS DO THEY

HAVE ENOUGH MUNITIONS TO DEAL

WITH A FAR GREATER ENEMY

HEZBOLLAH ON THE NORTH AND AND

ALSO CONRICUS WAS TELLING ME

THAT IT REALLY HAS A CHILLING

EFFECT ON IDF ITS ITS MOVEMENTS

AND ITS SUPPLIES.

BUT LONGER, MEDIUM AND LONGER

TERM IS WILL ISRAEL BE ABLE TO

DEPEND ON THE UNITED STATES AND

WILL STRATEGICALLY THEY START

TO LOOK TO OTHER COUNTRIES

OTHER SOURCES OF WEAPONS AND

SUPPLIES THAT THEY CAN ON?

>> AND IT'S INTERESTING, CHRIS,

BECAUSE BOTH BENJAMIN NETANYAHU

AND SOME ANALYSTS ON THE

CONSERVATIVE SIDE HAVE BEEN

SAYING FOR YEARS ISRAEL TO WEAN

ITSELF FROM THE TOTAL

DEPENDANCE ON THE UNITED

STATES.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE

LOOKING FOR A HANDOUT EVERY

SINGLE TIME THEY'RE LOOKING FOR

A WAY TO BUILD THEMSELVES UP SO

THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEPEND ON A

THAT'S RUN AFOUL.

>> YEAH, WE LOOKED AT THE

POLITICAL ISSUE THE MILITARY

TALK ABOUT THE SPIRITUAL ISSUE.

JUST ABOUT A MINUTE LEFT.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN SPIRITUALLY

FOR THE UNITED STATES?

WELL, I THINK I THINK THAT

WHAT'S HAPPENED NOW IS ISRAEL

IS SQUARELY IN THE HEART OF THE

2024 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND

SO ISN'T GOING TO GET ANY

NEATER AND CLEANER FOR

AMERICANS.

THIS IS GOING TO BECOME AN

ISSUE ON WHICH PEOPLE VOTE.

PEOPLE COME TO THE POLLS AND

NOW BIDEN FINDS HIMSELF ALIGNED

WITH THE SQUAD AND WITH NOW

CHUCK SCHUMER AS WELL ALL ON

THE SIDE THAT IS MUCH

VEHEMENTLY ANTI-ISRAEL AND I

KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO PULL

THEMSELVES BACK FROM THAT.

BUT THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN NEEDS TO

WALK A FINE LINE BECAUSE.

THEY STILL DEPEND ON JEWISH

DONORS, JEWISH FOOT SOLDIERS.

THERE'S THE JEWISH PEOPLE IN

AMERICA ARE GETTING MORE AND

MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE RANK

ANTISEMITISM IN ALL THESE

PROTESTS AND EVERYTHING.

SO IT'S IT'S NOT GOING TO BE

COOL CALM SUMMER.

YEAH, PROBABLY IN IN A GREAT

INCENTIVE FOR MANY CHRISTIANS

AROUND THE WORLD TO BE PRAYING.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THANK YOU, JOHN.

THANKS.

COMING UP, OUR CIVILIAN DEATH

TOLLS IN GAZA ARE BEING USED AS

A PROPAGANDA TOOL.

CALL THE NUMBER ON YOUR SCREEN

TODAY.

>> IT'S A FREE CALL.

>> CIVILIANS CAUGHT IN THE

CROSSFIRE DURING BATTLE ARE

OFTEN DESCRIBED AS A

CONSEQUENCE OF WAR.

WHILE WE HAVE SEEN THIS DURING

THE WAR IN GAZA BETWEEN ISRAEL

AND HAMAS, SOME ANALYSTS SAY

REPORTING CIVILIAN DEATHS IN

THIS CONFLICT IS BEING USED AS

A PROPAGANDA TOOL.

>> TAKE A LOOK.

TRAGICALLY, PALESTINIANS HAVE

DIED IN THE MORE THAN 200 DAY

WAR.

>> HAMAS BEGAN ON OCTOBER 7TH.

>> OF COURSE WE HAVE TO START

BY SAYING THAT EVERY HUMAN

BEING WHOSE LIFE IS LOST IS A

TERRIBLE TRAGEDY AND WE'RE ALL

CREATED THE IMAGE OF GOD.

>> GIL HOFFMAN, DIRECTOR OF

HONEST REPORTING, A MEDIA GROUP

RECENTLY PUBLISHED AN

INVESTIGATIVE REPORT ON HOW

HAMAS HAS INFLATED THE NUMBER

OF CIVILIAN CASUALTIES IN GAZA.

>> TERRORISTS ARE NOT

JOURNALISTS.

THEY'RE NOT PEOPLE WHO SHOULD

BE TRUSTED AND THERE ARE

NUMBERS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING

OUT ARE PART OF THEIR

PROPAGANDA GAME TO TRY TO WIN

THE WORLD'S.

>> AND IT'S UNFORTUNATELY

WORKING.

THE GAZA MINISTRY OVERSEEN BY

HAMAS PUBLISHES THOSE NUMBERS.

CURRENTLY ITS DEATH TOLL

REPORTING STANDS AT MORE THAN

34,000.

HOFFMAN SAYS THOSE NUMBERS HAVE

BEEN PARROTED THROUGHOUT THE

WAR BY WORLD LEADERS INCLUDING

PRESIDENT BIDEN AND GLOBAL

MEDIA LIKE THE ASSOCIATED

PRESS.

>> YOU KNOW THE WORLD MEDIA

THEY TRY TO BE BALANCED.

SO ISRAEL SAYS THIS ISRAEL SAYS

BASED ON THE STUDIES TAKEN BY

THE TOP EXPERTS IN URBAN

WARFARE, ISRAEL SET A GOLD

STANDARD PREVENTING THE LOSS OF

CIVILIAN LIFE.

SO THEY PUT OUT OUR SIDE AND

THEN THE OTHER SIDE THEY PUT IT

WELL, HAMAS SAYS THAT THAT

ISRAEL IS COMMITTING GENOCIDE.

IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

YOU DON'T TRUST A DEMOCRATIC

GOVERNMENT THAT'S THE TOP ALLY

OF THE UNITED STATES THE SAME

WAY YOU TRUST A TERROR

ORGANIZATION.

PROFESSOR OF STATISTICS ABRAHAM

WEINER FROM THE WHARTON SCHOOL

,THE UNIVERSITY OF

PENNSYLVANIA WROTE HOW THE GAZA

MINISTRY HEALTH FAKES CASUALTY

NUMBERS.

THE DATA SCIENTISTS STUDIED

HAMAS STATISTICS FROM THE WAR'S

BEGINNING USING A GRAPH AND

HERE'S THE PROBLEM WITH THIS

DATA.

THE NUMBERS NOT REAL THAT MUCH

IS OBVIOUS TO ANYONE WHO

UNDERSTANDS HOW NATURALLY

OCCURRING NUMBERS WORK.

THE CASUALTIES ARE NOT

OVERWHELMINGLY WOMEN AND

CHILDREN AND THE MAJORITY MAY

BE FIGHTERS.

>> THIS DATA ALSO DOES NOT

INCLUDE THE ESTIMATED THOUSAND

HAMAS FIGHTERS KILLED IN COMBAT

OR PALESTINIAN KILLED BY

MISFIRED ROCKETS ESTIMATED BY

SOME TO BE LESS THAN A

THOUSAND.

THE FOUNDATION FOR THE DEFENSE

OF DEMOCRACIES ALSO REPORTED

THIS MONTH THAT THE GAZA HEALTH

MINISTRY CANNOT NAMES FOR MORE

THAN 10,000 IT SAYS HAVE DIED.

>> WE PREVIOUSLY KNEW THEY HAD

INCOMPLETE RECORDS FOR THIS SET

OF PEOPLE OF AT LEAST 10,000.

BUT FROM BOTH WALL STREET

JOURNAL REPORTING AND FROM AN

ITEM ON THE MINISTRY'S OWN

SOCIAL MEDIA FEED THEY'VE

INDICATED THEY DON'T HAVE NAMES

SO THEY CAN'T REALLY IDENTIFY

THESE INDIVIDUALS.

IT'S REALLY ONE MORE DROP IN A

BUCKET ON A BROADER CREDIBILITY

ISSUE.

AS THE NIC ALSO NOTED, THE GAZA

MINISTRY OF HEALTH GOT ITS

INFORMATION UNIDENTIFIED QUOTE

RELIABLE MEDIA SOURCES.

>> AT FIRST THAT WAS ONLY ABOUT

22% BUT THEN IT BECAME AN

INCREASING PERCENTAGE OVER

TIME.

SO WE GOT TO A POINT WHERE

NEARLY 45% OF THE ALLEGED

DECEASED WERE BASED ON THESE

MEDIA REPORTS.

>> IT'S NOT THE ONLY EXAMPLE

SUSPECTED DEATH TOLLS NEAR THE

BEGINNING OF THE WAR THE MEDIA

REPORTED ISRAEL KILLED 500 AT

THE AL AHLI HOSPITAL.

LATER IT WAS DISCOVERED A

MISFIRED ROCKET BY ISLAMIC

KILLED FAR LESS CIVILIANS.

IN THE NEXT DOOR PARKING LOT,

ABU SCHLUPP, THE SPOKESPERSON

FOR ISLAMIC ADMITTED IT WAS A

LIE.

>> YES.

IN ORDER TO RAISE THIS STORY

THE ORGANIZATION MADE SEVERAL

MOVES IT FABRICATED A STORY

THAT THE ROCKET BELONGED TO THE

OCCUPATION.

AND THE TARGET WAS A HOSPITAL

BUILDING.

THEY RELIED SOME OF THE STORIES

SO THE INTERNATIONAL PRESS AND

AFTER THAT THEY PUBLISHED IT TO

THE WHOLE WORLD.

YES.

FIRST OF ALL, I ACKNOWLEDGE

THAT SADLY THERE ARE CIVILIANS

THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED IN

BATTLE.

SADLY AND THAT IS NOT THE

INTENTION OF THE IDF.

I THINK THE IDF HAS GONE TO

LENGTHS IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE

THE AMOUNT OF NONCOMBATANTS

THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THIS

WAR.

AND I AS A HUMAN BEING I REGRET

ANY CIVILIAN WHO LOSES HIS LIFE

AS A PART OF A FIGHT THAT THEY

DIDN'T START.

>> FORMER IDF SPOKESMAN

JONATHAN CONRICUS NOW WITH THE

SAYS HAMAS HAS RIGGED THE

BATTLEFIELD.

>> WE REMEMBER WHO EMBEDS

HIMSELF WITHIN THE CIVILIAN

POPULATION AND ABUSES

EVERYTHING THAT SUPPOSED TO BE

PROTECTED UNDER INTERNATIONAL

LAW.

HOSPITALS, SCHOOLS, MOSQUES,

U.N. FACILITIES, INFIRMARIES

AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT DOES

THAT IS HAMAS.

AND HAVE HAMAS CHOSEN FIGHT OUT

IN THE OPEN AND NOT TO USE

CIVILIANS HUMAN SHIELDS NOT TO

TUNNEL UNDERNEATH CIVILIAN

NEIGHBORHOODS AND NOT TO HIDE

BEHIND CIVILIAN THEN OF COURSE

THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY CIVILIAN

CASUALTIES DESPITE THAT HAMAS

USING HUMAN SHIELDS ACCORDING

TO MILITARY HISTORIAN JOHN

SPENCER.

THE RATIO OF CIVILIAN DEATHS TO

COMBATANTS IS NEAR HISTORIC

LOWS FOR URBAN WARFARE.

>> THE FACT THAT ARE CIVILIAN

CASUALTIES IS AN UNFORTUNATE

RESULT OF HAMAS'S STRATEGY AND

TACTICS.

AND IDF IS STILL APPLYING THE

AND THE PRINCIPLES OF

DISTINCTION AND

PROPORTIONALITY.

IT TRIES TO STRIKE ONLY THE

MILITARY ASSETS AND IT TRIES TO

STRIKE WITH JUST ENOUGH FORCE

IN ORDER TO GET THE MILITARY

JOB DONE.

>> EVEN SO HOFFMAN SAYS

REGRETTABLY THE CHARGE OF

GENOCIDE HAS SPREAD WORLDWIDE

WIDE INTO THE STREETS AND

ACROSS SOCIAL MEDIA THAT

ACCUSATION FOR A WAR THAT

STARTED WITH THE HAMAS SENDING

PEOPLE INTO ISRAEL TO KILL AS

MANY JEWS AS THEY COULD AND

ISRAEL DOING EVERYTHING

POSSIBLE TO MINIMIZE CIVILIAN

DEATHS AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT

ACCUSATION IS STILL OUT THERE

AND JUST ANTI-SEMITIC TO

ACCUSED ISRAEL OF THAT.

THE FACTS ARE JUST SO OBVIOUS

TO BE THE OPPOSITE.

UP NEXT SUING ADVOCACY GROUPS

THAT HAVE INSTIGATED PROTEST ON

ABC.COM TO GET THE APP TODAY.

>> A LAWSUIT IS BEING FILED

AGAINST TWO US GROUPS WHICH

FOLLOW HAMAS'S IDEOLOGY THAT

ARE FUELING THE PRO-PALESTINIAN

ANTI-ISRAEL PROTESTS ON US

UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES.

I SPOKE WITH ATTORNEY ARSON

ABOUT HOW THESE GROUPS ARE

BEHIND MUCH OF THE VIOLENCE

SEEING.

>> ARSON.

THANKS FOR BEING WITH US.

YOU'RE PART OF A LEGAL BATTLE

RIGHT NOW IN THE US AND YOU

FILE LAWSUIT IN THE US.

TELL US ABOUT THE LAWSUIT.

>> SURE.

THE LAWSUIT HAS BEEN FILED

AGAINST THE GROUP NATIONAL

STUDENTS FOR JUSTICE IN

PALESTINE AND AMERICAN MUSLIMS

FOR PALESTINE.

NOW THESE GROUPS ARE THE

PRIMARY DRIVERS OF WHAT WE'RE

SEEING HAPPENING ACROSS

CAMPUSES IN THE UNITED STATES

HAVE EFFECTIVELY BECOME A

SECOND FRONT FOR HAMAS SINCE

OCTOBER SEVEN.

AND THESE GROUPS THEY'RE NOT

MERE ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS BUT

THEY ARE THE CAMPUS ARM OF THE

HAMAS TERROR GROUP.

ARE ACTING AND SERVING IN

COLLABORATION AND COORDINATION

WITH HAMAS AS PROPAGANDISTS AND

COLLABORATORS ON CAMPUS TO AND

PROMOTE THE HAMAS EXTREMIST

IDEOLOGY TO JUSTIFY THEIR

ACTIONS AND TO INCITE THE

VITRIOL, HATRED AND THE

VIOLENCE THAT WE'RE SEEING ON

CAMPUSES TODAY.

>> SO THEY'RE PART OF THE FUEL

OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING

RIGHT NOW ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES.

ABSOLUTELY.

THEY ARE NOT ONLY PART OF THE

FUEL, THEY ARE THE ONES POURING

FUEL ON THE FIRE OF WHAT WE'RE

SEEING ON CAMPUSES ACROSS

AMERICA TODAY ON OCTOBER 7TH

WHEN THE MASSACRE HAPPENED,

HAMAS CALLED TO MOBILIZE INTO

ACTION.

THE VERY NEXT DAY SJP AND THE

NATIONAL CHAPTERS ACROSS

AMERICA.

AND SO THAT CALL BY CREATED

TOOLKIT OR A MANIFESTO ECHOING

THE VERY TERMINOLOGY, THE VERY

DIRECTIVE THAT WERE ISSUED BY

HAMAS ACROSS CAMPUSES IN THE

UNITED STATES.

AND THAT HAS LED NOT ONLY TO

THE VIOLENCE INCITEMENT AND

HATRED THAT WE'RE SEEING

AGAINST JEWISH STUDENTS ON

CAMPUSES BUT IMPORTANTLY IT HAS

CREATED THE SPACE AND THE

NARRATIVE NECESSARY FOR HAMAS

TO CONTINUE CARRYING OUT THE

ACTS OF TERROR THEY ARE DOING

HERE AGAINST ISRAELIS AND ALSO

IN THE HOLDING OF HOSTAGES AND

CAPTIVES IN GAZA, INCLUDING

ALSO AMERICAN NATIONALS.

>> SO YOU'RE SAYING THE DAY

AFTER OCTOBER 7TH, OCTOBER

EIGHT HAMAS WORKED TOGETHER

THESE GROUPS?

CORRECT.

HAMAS ISSUED A CALL TO ACTION

AND THE VERY NEXT DAY SJP AND

THEIR AFFILIATES THROUGHOUT THE

UNITED STATES THEY ANSWERED

THAT CALL THAT ANSWERED THAT

DIRECTIVE.

THEY CREATED A TOOLKIT A

MANIFESTO FOR THEIR CHAPTERS

ACROSS THE UNITED STATES

ECHOING THE LANGUAGE THE

TERMINOLOGY, THE INSTRUCTIONS