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Summary
TLDRThe transcript appears to be a discussion about the NBA playoffs, focusing on the Los Angeles Lakers' chances and strategies. The conversation covers various aspects such as the importance of playing against the Denver Nuggets early in the playoffs, the Lakers' performance with LeBron James and Anthony Davis, and the potential impact of injuries on the outcome. The participants debate whether the Lakers should aim for the longest time in the playoffs or the best chance at winning the championship. They also touch upon the performance of other teams like the New Orleans Pelicans and the Boston Celtics, and discuss the significance of matchups, the athleticism of teams, and the potential for upsets in the playoffs. The summary suggests that despite the Lakers' recent struggles, there is optimism about their chances if they can secure a win against the Pelicans and subsequently face Denver.
Takeaways
- π The Lakers' path to the NBA championship involves getting out of the 9-10 play-in game and facing Denver as early as possible, according to the speaker.
- π€ There's a debate on whether the Lakers fans should be happy with their current playoff scenario, with different opinions on whether facing Denver is advantageous.
- π LeBron James has been playing exceptionally well, which is seen as a key factor for the Lakers' potential success in the playoffs.
- π― The importance of rest and health for LeBron is highlighted, as his performance tends to drop in the fourth quarter when fatigued.
- π There's a discussion about the Lakers' goals in the playoffs, whether it's to prolong their stay or to aim for the championship.
- π€·ββοΈ There's skepticism about the Lakers' chances against Denver, given their recent losing streak against the Nuggets.
- π§ The potential weakness of the Denver Nuggets is discussed, particularly the reliance on Jamal Murray's performance and his history of injuries.
- π Statistics are mentioned to support arguments, such as LeBron's three-point shooting percentages and the Lakers' performance against Denver.
- π Jamal Murray's performance in the playoffs is recognized, but there's a suggestion that his outstanding performance last year may not be repeated.
- π₯ LeBron is attacking the rim more and reducing three-point attempts, which is seen as a strategic move against a team like Denver that doesn't shoot many threes.
- β°οΈ The impact of Denver's high-altitude home court advantage is considered, with speculation on how it might affect player endurance.
Q & A
What is the current situation of the Lakers in the play-in tournament?
-The Lakers are locked into the play-in line and need to get out of the 9-10 disaster zone area to have a path to compete for a championship.
Why is it important for the Lakers to play against Denver as early as possible?
-The belief is that if the Lakers are to make the NBA Finals, they will have to go through the Denver Nuggets, and their best chance is to face them earlier when LeBron James is rested and healthy.
What is the debate regarding the Lakers' goal in the playoffs?
-There is a debate whether the Lakers' goal should be to prolong their time in the playoffs or to maximize their chances of winning the championship, as these two goals may not be aligned.
How has LeBron James been performing in the recent games?
-LeBron James has been playing exceptionally well, with the only loss being when Anthony Davis couldn't play due to a concussion.
What is the general sentiment towards Zion Williamson after his full season performance?
-People are happy that Zion Williamson played a full season and are optimistic about his future, although he was outplayed by LeBron in their last game.
What is the discussion about the potential matchup between the Lakers and the Nuggets?
-There is a disagreement on whether the Lakers have a realistic chance of beating the Nuggets. Some believe that injuries to key players like Jamal Murray could shift the outcome.
What is the record of the Dallas Mavericks against the Denver Nuggets?
-The Dallas Mavericks have a strong record against the Denver Nuggets, being 15-2 in their last 17 games, excluding the last two games of the year.
Why is there a belief that the Lakers could become the league favorite if they beat Denver?
-The belief stems from the Lakers' strong performance when LeBron and AD are healthy, suggesting that overcoming the Nuggets could position them as a formidable contender in the league.
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What is the general consensus on the importance of Jamal Murray's health for the Nuggets' success?
-The general consensus is that Jamal Murray's health is critical for the Nuggets' success, as he significantly improves in the playoffs and the team has struggled without him.
How has LeBron James' three-point shooting performance evolved this season?
-LeBron James has improved his three-point shooting this season, making it his best three-point shooting year, which is a significant change from his previous season's performance.
What is the strategy suggested for LeBron James against the Nuggets?
-The suggested strategy for LeBron James is to attack the rim relentlessly, as he has been doing, and reduce his reliance on three-pointers, especially considering Denver's defensive strength inside.
Outlines
π Lakers' Playoff Strategy and Denver Matchup
The first paragraph discusses the Los Angeles Lakers' playoff mode and their fans' mixed feelings. The speaker believes the Lakers' best chance to compete for an NBA championship is to face the Denver Nuggets early, despite it being a controversial opinion. The importance of LeBron James' performance and health is highlighted, with the argument that a well-rested LeBron could be a game-changer. The paragraph also debates whether the Lakers' goal should be a long playoff run or the championship itself, suggesting that the two objectives might not align.
π Zion Williamson's Progress and LeBron's Impact
The second paragraph focuses on Zion Williamson's performance and his potential to play a significant role against the Lakers. It acknowledges that while Zion has shown promise, he has not yet reached the level of playing a winning playoff game. The discussion also touches on the New Orleans Pelicans' season, the importance of Brandon Ingram's performance, and the team's chances against the Lakers. Additionally, there's a debate on whether the Lakers can overcome their losing streak against Denver, with a focus on LeBron James' current form and the Nuggets' strength.
π Analyzing Denver's Performance and LeBron's Shooting
The third paragraph delves into Denver's performance over the past months and their standing in the league. There's a debate about whether Denver's loss to the Spurs was a setback or a wake-up call. The paragraph also discusses LeBron James' three-point shooting performance, his potential fatigue in the fourth quarter, and how it affected the Lakers' games last season. The potential for a rematch against Denver is considered, with speculation on how LeBron's current form and health could influence the outcome.
π« LeBron's Adaptation and Denver's Style of Play
The fourth paragraph examines LeBron James' adjustment in his playing style, focusing on his relentless rim attacks and reduction in three-point attempts. It contrasts the Lakers' and Denver's three-point shooting strategies and suggests that LeBron's adaptation suits the matchup. The discussion also explores the potential impact of playing in Denver's high-altitude environment on LeBron's performance and the overall series dynamics. The paragraph concludes with speculation on the Lakers' chances against Denver and the odds of different teams winning the Western Conference.
π MVP Candidates and Teams' Success Against Denver
Mindmap
Keywords
π‘Lakers
π‘Playoffs
π‘LeBron James
π‘Denver Nuggets
π‘Jamal Murray
π‘Zion Williamson
π‘Match-ups
π‘Bracket
π‘Three-Point Shooting
π‘Altitude
Highlights
Discussion about the Lakers' path to competing for a championship and the importance of their current situation.
The necessity of getting out of the 9-10 disaster zone and the controversial opinion of getting Denver as early as possible.
LeBron James' exceptional performance and the impact of a rested and healthy LeBron on the Lakers' chances.
The debate on whether the Lakers' goal should be the longest possible time in the playoffs or the best chance of winning the championship.
The potential benefits for the Lakers of having a playoff schedule with multiple days between games.
The importance of Zion Williamson playing a full season and public reaction to his performance.
The strategy of intentionally losing to get a more favorable seed in the playoffs and the risks involved.
The potential matchup between the Lakers and the Nuggets, and the Lakers' chances of winning.
Jamal Murray's significance to the Denver Nuggets' success in the playoffs.
LeBron James' adaptation of his game by attacking the rim more and the impact on the Lakers' performance.
The discussion on which team poses the most significant threat to the Denver Nuggets.
The analysis of the Denver Nuggets' performance by month and their recent form.
The potential impact of LeBron James' improved three-point shooting on the Lakers' playoff performance.
The importance of the Lakers' health and LeBron's foot injury in the previous playoffs.
The potential for the Los Angeles Lakers to become the league favorites if they beat the Denver Nuggets.
The discussion on the Dallas Mavericks' impressive record against Denver and their potential in a playoff series.
The closing thoughts on the show, including apologies for any unintentional disrespect to certain teams.
Transcripts
mad at me much now now you've over I I
wasn't here Friday I'm back you spend a
great weekend together true playoff mode
is here I know let's go Wilds actually
talked to us away from the was czy
grandparents who they are not happy
about sorry I was a big hit I told you
but the most important people there are
good first things first today no Wilds
they shouldn't be happy oh here we go I
mean they should be
ecstatic
euphoric
elated over the
moon how however was well done right bro
I won't do it again I just felt like I
needed it for that moment listen here's
the reality however thin and it is very
thin admittedly the Lakers path to
competing for a championship okay is it
had to start here well I mean once we
knew they were locked into the playin
line that in my opinion the two things
that needed to happen was were get out
of the 910 disaster Zone area yeah check
and and I know this is controversial to
believe but I adamantly believe it get
Denver as early as
possible and that is not because Denver
is a better matchup than other teams
would be it's not because the Lakers are
better than Denver but if it is because
we are to assume in order to make the
NBA Finals they're going to have to go
through the Denver Nuggets the only
chance they have is now it's a
reasonable rested healthy LeBron if we
can show you rolling LeBron's the last
seven he's been playing out of his mind
the the only game they lost was when ad
couldn't play because of the I think it
was a concussion I don't know if they
called it that but concussion simp and
the Warriors had the greatest shooting
night in NBA history and so I've not it
really to me Brew is about if you're a
Lakers fan are you happy is about what
your goal is is your goal the longest
possible time in the playoffs or is your
goal the best chance of winning the
championship cuz right now I don't think
those two things are aligned if your
goal is the longest possible time in the
playoffs then you want to be on the
other side of the bracket as Denver and
just like last year maybe see him in the
Conference Finals when you're exhausted
and old and get swept if your goal is
you know what what if we could win it
with four days but between the play in
in game one or five days and then
multiple days between every early game
which is only the case in in round one I
think this perfect I think this is
exactly what the Lakers fans should have
hoped for and they got it if they win
tomorrow night I'm going I'm going to
address that I know we got a next tou
we're gonna talk about the Denver Lakers
matchup so I'll address what you said
then as far as answering the question
it's all about your perspective I mean
because when you look at the fact that
just a few days ago they were the 10th
seed yeah and looking at playing Golden
State and then maybe Phoenix Road just
to get to the on the road both times
then yeah this makes you feel good
because they've owned New Orleans right
three I think they're three in one
obviously they you know played well
against yesterday and you mention LeBron
how well he's playing one thing I like
too at times he was Garden Zion so even
just taking on like big game we need
this win give me Zion and he did a good
job on him and so yeah you're excited if
you're the Lakers um considering all the
other options to be in this scenario a
lot of people Nick are talking about
they should lose and try to get to the
eighth seed obviously they've owned
Oklahoma City beating them three
straight times three out of four this
year the problem I no I am totally
against that because you can't play
around like that cuz then you get
probably Golden State or
Sacramento against you yeah in a in a
one and done you know you definitely
don't want that so I think this is a
good case SC there I don't agree and I
think we're going to get to that I don't
agree though with your take about them
playing Denver now but so just just stay
on the if they lose if they you know I
everyone at this table agrees that they
should of course do everything they can
to win tomorrow night even though it
means playing Denver whether you think
what so we all agree on that but this
can also be true because of how the
bracket fell a loss last or tomorrow
night won't feel devastating to most it
might to me because I think you want to
get Denver early but to the rest of you
know people rooting for the Lakers or
rooting for LeBron or whomever it will
be like okay the season will come down
to a game which is terrifying but then
after that then you would be on the
opposite side of Denver and exactly and
you get OKC but then it opens up the
door to your season being over in 72
hours quickly brw just on the Pelicans
Zion we're in year five never been to
the playoffs played 70 games this year
got cooked up by LeBron last game but I
think there's a little bit of like all
right ingrams missed 12 games he was
held to Ingram had 13 Zion had 12 do you
think this is sort of a moment for Zion
against the Lakers no no no I mean that
we've look honestly we were happy and I
think I speak for a lot of people we're
happy he played a full season oh my God
yeah no that's where the bar is on the
number one pick in the yes Kaitlyn Clark
it was Zion it's
like that's over I'm serious so happy
that he played he's always he baby steps
baby steps has been 5 years but he
hasn't been healthy well now he is and
look he played well and he's a nice he
handles the ball you know get into the
hole it will I mean he played well but
no 70 game next year we'll talk about
winning a series get in the playoffs he
can't play a playoff game he just lost
they could have gone to the six just
lost make the playoffs make the playoffs
beat LeBron I mean I I but if they
they're not going to beat the Lakers and
I don't think you think they're going to
beat the lers I think they're going to
win tomorrow I think they're going to
win I mean they haven't I think it's a
tough match up they working in Ingram
that's the thing I think that's what
they and the I mean yesterday they could
have been the six if they win which
would be super them being New Orleans
super useful for them and that was not I
understand it was Master Sunday there's
a lot going on maybe people were there
lot 30 G or 30 teams playing yesterday
that game was an Annihilation from day
from opening tip uh but don't you think
an Ingam thing no I listen I think that
if you're New Orleans or Minnesota this
whole incorporating your second best
player right before the postseason could
be a problem but I do want to say real
quick before we move on
Brew I will never again underestimate
the power of the bud list I put Wilds on
the bud list demanding he let the tiger
out more often I mean the first segment
of Monday show you guys
are there is a game G four go back to LA
you know what I want
bro 15 points okay well listen he he'll
give you 15 points tomorrow here Tatum
he's going to lose to LeBron James and
you're gonna kill him for that he LeBron
James was old as me yeah I'm going to
Paul George had his moment against
LeBron Tatum young Tatum had his moment
against LeBron in losses well have a
moment and win and some people have
George and the Goat conversation not
players in the league I mean all right
if the lake show do get by the frisky
pels which is no guarantee they'll head
to Denver in a scenario that Nick once
proclaimed was their best case scenario
now they've lost eight games in a row
against Denver and six in a row since
Darvin ham inferred he had seen
something in the fourth quarter of game
one of the Western Conference finals and
told the world we'll be okay trust me
six six losses since then uh Brew what
chances do the Lakers have to take out
Denver I mean no chance other than never
say never anything is possible no there
there's no I mean look the greatness of
LeBron and AD I'm doing my all NBA teams
they're both on the top three you know a
third second and third Team all NBA I'll
share I'll keep it a secret which one's
second which one's third but there there
are great players obviously but there's
really not much other than if you just
say you know LeBron this his maybe last
harah like last best chance to win a
championship or get there he's going to
take it over but he played well last
year and they got swept and he had a
Lebron game and they couldn't it
still and it wasn't enough and so
there's really no realistic logical
basketball reason to pick them here's
why I disagree with your theory Nick
yeah cuz there I get what you're saying
but I think the uh nuggets have one
weakness and I'm not it's not their
depth to me or lack of depth it's the
possibility of Jamal of Jamal Murray
getting hurt okay that's true no because
he has they cannot win the championship
they cannot win the West without Jamal
muray I mean as great as joic is Jamal
Murray is critical he always plays
better in the playoffs significantly
better and they must have it and my
thing is this Nick he's back and he's
been hot 24 points a game and like 25
minutes a game since he came back from
last five or six games I think it's five
games he's he's shooting it like 47%
from three well over 50 overall and and
obviously we don't want to see anybody
get hurt but I think the chances on the
cuz he's not been able to make it
through all the postseasons and so if he
were to get hurt it's probably later in
the playoffs versus right away and
that's why I I don't agree with that no
so that by the way that is a that is
almost assuredly correct I am operating
from the unrealistic place but the place
that I think we almost always do these
predictions of everyone's as healthy as
they are right now you know and so
that's he stays healthy so you said
there's no basketball reasons well he
said it no and you and then you was an
amen from the choir so so I would like
to
just posit a few questions sure to Mr
Denver Nugget you know for you know bro
no but you've been Mr Denver Nugget all
year yeah on your lightly followed
Twitter account you've written dozens of
times no one's beating Denver and a
seven game series wild you've been I
know you've been staying up late
watching these games because you send
that tweet the moment the game ends and
then I think you pass out immediately
after a bit of a burden yeah exactly he
just wants to send the
Tweet if you were to rank Denver by how
they've been playing by month where do
you think this last month of basketball
well they had the one they won four
their last five the one seed on the line
against a Spurs team that was not even
playing two of its five best players
they don't have a lot of great players
they're up 17 in the fourth quarter yeah
and they lost that game in a game with
real implications where the nuggets are
playing everyone slight slight hm
concern I Canad counter point yeah I
liked it why you know what I didn't like
it I loved it now we're why tell it's
wake up call a little wake up call okay
maybe Mike Malone was like guess what we
have to play defense and we have to
rebound I think they gave up eight
offensive rebounds in the fourth quarter
like guess what any team can beat you a
team with a star can come down and take
over and they took the foot off their
gas like ah you know it's the Spurs and
that so that they lost it I I was kind
of good and also Nick depending on how
far you want to go back last month last
two month they have the best record in
the league since the allstar them and
Boston 21-6 and the games Murray's
played they're 16 and3 that's a higher
win percentage than even Boston which
been running through the league so
they've been actually playing great
basball I agree with that they and the
losses you can be like that one was an
overtime to
Phoenix but this was a bad one because
they what was on the line which was the
on two which I think matter to them but
the other I'm going to give you one
other basketball reason and this is why
I think it is critical that if the
Lakers have any chance of beating Denver
that it has to happen now Brew what did
you call this Series last year a close
sweep a close sweep and it was and it
okay so I don't I've heard others call
it a gentleman sweep even gentleman
sweep is fine no I know they said
because it was so close here I'm just
like they want to give me my PR what and
you and you I think correctly ident if
I'm remembering right identified when we
were talking about the games last year
that it appeared at the end of these
games LeBron was out of gas and the
numbers support that if we can show you
LeBron last year he's rolling all
systems go quarters 1 through three and
was spent quarters in fourth quarter
okay what's the other story of LeBron
last season his worst three-point
shooting year in the regular season in
15 years and in the playoffs second
worst of his career if you remember you
were Wilds was saying give him the Ben
Simmons treatment one for
right I'm not saying he's going to keep
it up necessarily but what's the story
of LeBron this year his best three-point
shooting year and I'm going to add one
other point Jamal Murray is a great
postseason performer we all know that
what he did in those Conference Finals
and we can show it to you is aberant
even by his standards every other series
of his career he's awesome 24 five and
six on those splits last year he had the
best series of his career so the point
I'm making is this LeBron what they were
close good games until the Lakers best
player wore down in the fourth quarter I
don't think he's as likely to wear down
when it's not every other day like it is
in the Conference Finals and it's not
after two rounds of playoffs and he's
not nursing a bad foot bad foot whatever
it was he couldn't hit a three and Jamal
Murray played the series of his life now
the Counterpoint obviously is yeah and
so maybe if that's right it'll be 4-1
this time or 42 this time I get that but
I I think there are a lot of factors
that if if this ends up being the
matchup you could see it go very
similarly as last year but if LeBron is
a just a touch fresher and Jamal Murray
is just a touch less
incandescent those games turn Murray
though has had a lot of great series his
numbers are down both regular season and
playoffs cuz of early in his career the
numbers weren't as prolific I'll give
you this though as a support for what
you said about LeBron cuz he's been cold
this month from three I think he's like
30 1% something like that lession don't
41% for the season right but what you
see is and I think this is why he
shooting such a high percentage and I
think it's wise of LeBron he is
attacking the rim relentlessly he's
shooting like three three-pointers this
month a game that's low and it was four
and a half the last month in in May in
March so he's dialing down the
three-pointers and attacking the rim
more which is what I think he should do
and Denver doesn't shoot a lot of Threes
they're actually last in the league in
three-point attempts the Lakers are SEC
third to last so the fact that if
LeBron's not draining a ton of Threes
that's okay because Denver is not going
to be draining a ton of Threes either
and you he should keep attacking the rim
Josh you know what I'd like to do take
Nick's graphic and let's look at the
Denver La splits and I wonder if it's
less uh just LeBron wearing down and
more of the altitude
o once you're in that thin m it was it
was and but the other Denver and he has
to he had to play so well and hard to
just stay keep them near the nug great
four and the hit the one thing and I'm
not the there injuries it's part of
sports I get it but the one place where
LeBron's foot injury last playoffs
really showed up is it seemed like he
only had three or four hard drives to
the basket in him a game until that game
four against Denver when he just you
know emptied the clip probably last game
of the year the last month man he is
relentlessly it feels like it's the
healthiest he has been going into a
postseason since the championship year
that's all I'm saying even though I
think the Pelicans are going to win you
convince me the Lakers can get a
game okay got it I I I I don't think
it'll be a sweep this year yeah there we
go might even get two wow oh if you can
get two you get three if you can get
three it comes down to a game seven
anything can happen you're getting there
bro here the odds to win the West Denver
at one then it's the uh Thunder and the
Clippers tied at two MAV Suns wolves
Lake Show Pelicans Warriors and then
sack toown way far down there uh who's
the most dangerous threat to the Champs
Bro Look it's all about the matchups I I
mean obviously Denver is a team you feel
like can work through any of these M
challenge matchup challenges
but my team we know I picked the
Clippers to get to the Conference Finals
and we're going to talk about them a
little later but if they're healthy I
like like the Clippers if they're
healthy all right but we'll talk about
that all right but I'm going to say and
I think the Lakers look if the Lakers
somehow were to beat Denver they
immediately become I don't think just
the Western Conference favorite I think
the league favorite because I think they
would beat Boston wow Boston B I'm I'm
not look I pick Boston great if they if
they get I don't think they're getting
beating Denver but if they do you don't
think people going to be saying they're
going to win it they beat tell you this
much I will be if they beat Denver and I
just think I think they would handle
ball I really do I I I like Boston in
the East what are they one in one
against Boston this year but LeBron ad I
think but the best I'm going to go with
Minnesota because I think they and and
they gonna have their hands full with
Phoenix so I'm just saying though a
one-on-one matchup in a series I think
Minnesota with their size and you know
not just Carl Anthony towns and and
Gober now Reed is played great when
gobear was out you got that one
incredible individual superstar that can
just take over series and Anthony
Edwards and then you've got some vets
like well coach and they're a great
defensive team so in a one-on-one series
I would say Minnesota is my toughest do
you have an answer I I'm I'm a little
bit worried about the
Suns a little there is some recency a
part of that and the Superstar Factor
here's the graphic of teams that have
done well against Denver the frisky
magic I was on them you know Rockets
somehow 2 and0 uh Thunder play well
Rockets shenon of course going up
against you know there's a common
denominator in four of the five can you
pick it out tall people well what is it
young oh young and athletic young and
fast I mean that yeah the Denver's not
like incredibly athletic so this graphic
make and the fact that you're using this
graphic to support Phoenix does mean
listen good people of Oak City I
apologize that this show unintentionally
keeps really disrespecting your team
like by the way CU they're not my answer
they're not my answer either we we had a
whole MVP conversation last week and we
because brew and I agree on this that it
was a Luca yic conversation didn't even
include SGA the Oklahoma City is three-
one against Denver and is the only team
that would have home court advantage
against them in the conference and none
of us are going to say them cuz Brew
went Minnesota no I get it Brew went
Minnesota you went Phoenix and I'm going
with the right answer which is Dallas
Dallas is 15- two and it's last 17 if we
throw out the last two games of the year
they satad everybody like they the games
that mattered they were that and if
there is any player in the league that
for a series can match Nica yic it's
Luca that and we can show the their
career playoff numbers like you know
it's kind of horse of a different color
I don't think that's what the phrase is
at all but the point is um they both
have historic levels of impact in the
postseason they are both already in my
opinion great postseason players I know
Luca doesn't have the hardware to show
that yet but only Jordan has ever
averaged more points per game in a
postseason and so if you have L if Luca
could play joic to a draw you know Kyrie
could play Murray to a draw and now all
of a sudden you know it's like we've got
you know we've got Derek Lively and a
pod versus a podcaster you've got a lot
of things going on like I what I'm what
listen man put yourself out there hey
they they got to face the Clippers in
the first place the problem that's what
we're going to talk I do like Dallas
wanted to say Dallas but he has losing
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