Did Michael Cohen Get Caught LYING on Stand, Ruining Entire Case Against Trump? With Dan Bongino
Summary
TLDRThe video script discusses Michael Cohen's testimony during the Trump trial in New York, focusing on the credibility and likability issues surrounding him. Cohen's actions, such as paying for positive polls and creating fake social media accounts to boost his image, are highlighted. The defense attorney's strategy to undermine Cohen's testimony by pointing out inconsistencies, like the timing of his phone calls and his admission to secretly recording Trump, is detailed. The script also delves into the broader implications of Cohen's behavior for the case, emphasizing how likability can influence jury decisions and the importance of trust in attorney-client relationships.
Takeaways
- ð¢ Michael Cohen, a witness in the Trump trial, is accused of using a $50,000 payment to a group called Red Finch for promoting his image as attractive, similar to actor Andy Garcia, rather than for polling data on Donald Trump.
- ð£ïž Trump's defense attorney focused on undermining Cohen's credibility, highlighting an instance where Cohen claimed to have discussed the Stormy Daniels payment with Trump, which the defense disputed based on phone records.
- ð°ïž Phone records were used to challenge Cohen's claim that he spoke with Trump about the Stormy Daniels payment, suggesting instead that the brief call was about harassing phone calls from a 14-year-old.
- ð€ The defense attorney questioned the ethics of Cohen taping his client, Trump, without consent, which Cohen justified under the crime-fraud exception to attorney-client privilege.
- ð The script suggests that likability plays a significant role in court cases, and Cohen's actions and demeanor may have negatively impacted his credibility and likability in the eyes of the jury.
- ð The script implies that Cohen's handling of the harassing phone calls from a 14-year-old boy and his subsequent actions to involve the Secret Service were seen as questionable and indicative of his character.
- ð¥ Cohen's own podcast was used against him, where he contradicted his testimony by admitting to meeting with the prosecutor, Alvin Bragg, which the defense used to further discredit him.
- ð« The script discusses the legal and ethical implications of attorneys recording their clients, suggesting that such actions are viewed unfavorably and are illegal in some states.
- ðïž The trial's focus on Cohen's character and actions, rather than strictly on the legal merits of the case, highlights the subjective nature of the judicial process and the importance of a witness's credibility.
- ð The script also touches on the broader implications of the trial, suggesting that the outcome may hinge on which party the jury dislikes less: Donald Trump or Michael Cohen.
- ð¢ The AMAC (Association of Mature American Citizens) is promoted as an organization that unites patriots to preserve American values and oppose the leftist agenda, offering membership benefits and a platform to amplify voices.
Q & A
What was the purpose of the $50,000 payment made by Michael Cohen to the group Red Finch?
-The payment was intended to secure good polling for Donald Trump, but Cohen actually wanted to create a fake online presence with women expressing adoration for him, comparing his looks to that of the actor Andy Garcia.
What was the significance of the phone call between Michael Cohen and Donald Trump's bodyguard, Keith Schiller, after the payment to Stormy Daniels?
-Cohen claimed that he called Schiller to speak with Trump and informed him about the payment to Stormy Daniels, which Trump denies knowing about. This call is crucial as it relates to whether Trump was aware of and directed the payment.
What incident involving a 14-year-old boy did Michael Cohen discuss during his testimony?
-Cohen discussed an incident where he received harassing phone calls and discovered that they were coming from a 14-year-old boy. This led to Cohen threatening to involve the Secret Service, causing the boy to reveal his age and beg for leniency.
How did Trump's defense attorney, Todd Blanche, challenge Cohen's claim about the phone call with Trump regarding Stormy Daniels?
-Blanche used phone and text message records to show that Cohen had contacted Schiller shortly after dealing with the 14-year-old harasser, suggesting that the call was more likely about the harassment issue rather than the Stormy Daniels payment.
What was the duration of the phone call between Michael Cohen and Keith Schiller on October 24, 2016, and what was Blanche's argument regarding its content?
-The call lasted 1 minute and 36 seconds. Blanche argued that it was unlikely Cohen could have discussed both the harassment issue and the Stormy Daniels payment in such a short call, suggesting Cohen was lying about the content of the call.
Why did Cohen claim that recording his client, Donald Trump, was permissible?
-Cohen claimed that recording a client is permitted under the crime-fraud exception to the attorney-client privilege rules, which allows recording if the conversation involves planning a crime.
What ethical issue was raised regarding Cohen's actions as a lawyer in the script?
-The ethical issue raised was Cohen's decision to secretly record his client, which is generally considered unethical and is illegal in some states without the consent of all parties involved.
How did the script describe the impact of Cohen's actions on his likability and credibility in the court?
-The script described Cohen's actions as damaging to his likability and credibility, particularly his decision to secretly record his client and the unrelated incident with the 14-year-old, which made him appear unlikable and less credible.
What was the context of the recording between Cohen and Trump discussing the payoff to another woman, Karen McDougal?
-The recording was made in the context of discussing a hush money payment to Karen McDougal, who was planning to write stories about fitness for American Media Inc. in exchange for not disclosing her alleged affair with Trump.
What is the importance of likability in a court case, as discussed in the script?
-Likability is critical in a court case because it can influence the jury's perception of the parties involved. The script suggests that the jury is not just assessing the facts but also deciding who they dislike less between the two parties.
Outlines
ðµïžââïž Michael Cohen's Testimony and Trump's Defense Strategy
The first paragraph discusses Michael Cohen's role as a key witness in the Trump trial in New York. It highlights Cohen's claim that he informed Trump about the payment to Stormy Daniels, which Trump denies. The defense attorney, Todd Blanche, challenges Cohen's credibility by pointing out inconsistencies in his statements, such as Cohen's knowledge of a 14-year-old behind harassing phone calls and the timing of his phone call with Trump's bodyguard, Keith Schiller. The paragraph also touches on Cohen's attempt to gain a favorable image by comparing himself to actor Andy Garcia, which is criticized as a sign of narcissism. The defense's strategy is to discredit Cohen's testimony, suggesting that his claims about discussing the Daniels payment with Trump are false.
ð€ Assessing Michael Cohen's Credibility and Impact on the Jury
The second paragraph delves into the implications of Cohen's testimony and the defense's efforts to undermine his credibility. It mentions Cohen's admission of being a convicted perjurer and the defense's highlighting of his unethical behavior, such as secretly recording his client, Trump. The paragraph also discusses the importance of likability in court, suggesting that Cohen's actions and demeanor may negatively affect the jury's perception of him. The defense's strategy includes playing audio recordings to show Cohen contradicting himself, which could create reasonable doubt in the minds of the jurors. The paragraph concludes by emphasizing the significance of likability in determining the outcome of the trial.
ð³ïž AMAC Membership and the Importance of Civic Engagement
The third paragraph shifts focus from the trial to a promotional message about the Association of Mature American Citizens (AMAC). It encourages viewers to join AMAC to strengthen their voice in the political landscape and oppose the leftist agenda. The benefits of AMAC membership include access to a magazine, social security and Medicare guidance, discounts, and more. The paragraph also mentions an election year sale, offering a four-year membership for $30, and invites viewers to join the over 2 million members to make their voices heard.
Mindmap
Keywords
ð¡Michael Cohen
ð¡Stormy Daniels
ð¡Keith Schiller
ð¡Trump's defense attorney
ð¡Credibility
ð¡Harassing phone calls
ð¡Likeability
ð¡Recording a client
ð¡Fake women
ð¡AMAC (Association of Mature American Citizens)
ð¡Eviscerating credibility
Highlights
Michael Cohen paid $50,000 to Red Finch for positive polling on Donald Trump, but also sought fake women to praise him online.
Trump's defense attorney focused on undermining Michael Cohen's credibility during the trial.
Cohen claimed he informed Trump about the payment to Stormy Daniels, which Trump denies.
Phone records indicate Cohen was discussing a different matter with Trump's bodyguard, not the Daniels deal.
Cohen's claim of informing Trump about the payment was labeled a lie by Trump's lawyer.
Cohen's attempt to promote himself by looking like actor Andy Garcia is criticized as narcissistic.
Cohen's credibility questioned due to his history as a convicted perjurer.
The importance of likability in court and how it can influence a jury's decision.
Cohen contradicted himself on the stand, damaging his credibility.
Cohen's surreptitious recording of his client, Trump, is highlighted as unethical.
The legal and ethical implications of a lawyer recording a conversation with their client.
Cohen's actions are unfavorably compared to legal standards in Florida and Maryland.
The trial's focus on likability rather than just the facts of the case.
Cohen's unlikability and its potential impact on the jury's perception.
The significance of the tape recording in the context of the attorney-client privilege.
Cohen's admission of recording his client to play for a third party.
The trial's emphasis on the character and likability of the witnesses involved.
The potential impact of the AMAC membership and its role in elevating voices during elections.
Transcripts
okay let's switch to Michael Cohen star
witness of this Trump trial in New York
and late th star's doing a lot of work
in that sense a lot a lot of work
although it came out we talked about
this on the show yesterday it came out
that in that $50,000 he paid to this
group red finch to get some good polling
for Donald Trump what he really wanted
was a hash women for Michael Cohen
website and Twitter account and it they
kept putting out how hot he was and how
he looked just like some who was the
famous actor oh I can't remember he's a
pathetic man that's what he wanted a
fake women espousing their Adoration of
him Andy Garcia that's who it was okay
um here's what happened late Thursday
Trump's defense attorney really zeroed
in on what was kind of the kill I mean
it wasn't on a point that well it was on
a point that mattered but it wasn't
really a jugular moment at as as you saw
the on-ramp but the offramp the defense
player did have Michael Cohen's Jud in
his hand and even Anderson Cooper saw it
and talked about it so it was a great
moment for team Trump here's what
happened Michael Cohen had said that he
called Donald
Trump's uh bodyguard and he asked to
speak to Trump and he did after he made
the the payment to Stormy Daniels and
then he told Trump all about it remember
Trump is denying that he knew about this
he says this is a Michael Cohen
operation and he says no that's a lie I
told Trump Trump about it I called his
bodyguard Keith Schiller and he put me
on the phone with Trump and it happened
in October before the election it
happened so the lawyer for Trump gets up
there and he sets the stage by saying
you had a series of harassing phone
calls at her about this same time right
yes I did and it turned out that you
found out who was behind it it was a
14-year-old boy because he had forgotten
to block the number on at least one of
the calls right right and you threatened
that you were going to go to the Secret
Service about him and he begged you not
to saying I'm a 14-year-old boy and you
said you better Loop your parents in
ASAP correct correct it was within
moments of that that Cohen called
Trump's
bodyguard um and spoke with him for a
matter of minutes it was just after 8 on
October 24th
2016 he said Cohen did this is a way of
getting a hold of trump because he knew
that Keith Schiller The Bodyguard would
be with Trump and um blanch Trump's
lawyer cited text message record showing
Cohen messaged The Bodyguard at 7:48
p.m. about the harassing caller okay
this is a big phone call we're supposed
to be telling Trump stormmy perer we're
good instead he shows 7:48 p.m. that day
Cohen texted The Bodyguard about the his
own problem his 14-year-old
Tormentor okay um he says Coen text
Schiller who can I speak to about
harassing calls to myself in office
blanch then cited phone records showing
Schiller calling Cohen and leaving a
voicemail at 8:01 p.m. following text
message stating call me at 8:02 p.m.
colen then called Schiller's number the
conversation lasted 1 minute and 36
seconds show the phone records Todd Blan
said Cohen's claim that he was talking
to Trump in that 1 minute and 36 seconds
about the Daniels deal quote was a lie
because you were actually talking to Mr
Schiller about getting harassing phone
calls from a 14-year-old Cohen this is
amazing
dan part of it was about the phone calls
but I knew that Keith was with Mr Trump
at the time and it was more than
potentially just this potentially it was
more than potentially just this I'm
almost done uh blanch his voice growing
louder was incredulous this is um from
the Associated Press was incredulous you
had enough time in that 1 minute and 36
seconds to update Mr Schiller about all
the problems you were having with this
harassing phone call and also update
president Trump on the status of the
stormy Daniel situation Cohen responded
that that was my belief based on the
records he was able to review that had
said he said had refreshed his memory
the answer was quote
yes I believe I was telling the
truth yeah which is a very lawyerly
answer
I believe I I believe I was you and I
have been immersed in the legal system I
am not an attorney however you know 15
years in my life spent around criminals
and lawyers and courtrooms federal and
city and state I'm not new to this let
me just say first so by the way Michael
Cohen uh trying to uh get people to
promote him looking like Andy Garcia
like I look like Carrie Grant if he
looks like Andy Garcia like that's like
the dumbest thing I've can you imagine
paying people to I mean you look at him
like Andy Garcia Andy Garcia is an
actually good-looking guy Michael Cohen
is not I say that that's objectively who
else maybe Chaz paler I don't know if
you really wanted to stretch but Chaz
not that long ago he's a damn
good-looking guy he's a great that
restaurant Chaz is in Manhattan is
incredible and let me tell you something
he don't look anything like Michael
Cohen but is this guy right is this guy
the most unlikable witness you've ever
seen that whole exchange with the
14-year-old I took interest in because
why he thinks the Secret Service would
help him when he's not a protecte um was
just bizarre I mean we talk about a
narcissist but second it as you know
from reading through most of the case
this was just one of about five or diff
different five or six different episodes
that Todd blanch just eviscerated this
guy's credibility on I mean Megan in
court one of the worst things that can
happen to you is see you be for you to
have to debate yourself when you're
contradicted by your own voice video or
audio you'll just watch the jurors
they're typically like damn that was
good so at one point Cohen says
something really simple I never met
Alvin brag you know the the prosecutor
of course that that's not a hard thing
you either met him or you didn't it's
not a marginal case you didn't kind of
meet him and then they play Michael
Cohen's own podcast where he's like I
sat for hours with Alvin brg if you're
sitting there as a jurist I'm talking
about an I don't I can't get in their
heads I don't know if they're Democrats
or not I don't know I'm just saying if
you're a reasonable jurist because all
they need is a reasonable doubt this
guy's done right there like he doesn't
even know he met the prosecutor of
course he knows he just spoke about it
in the podcast he doesn't know a
conversation he had with Trump about a
14-year-old who he considered such a
threat he had a call Trump's bodyguard
Schiller this is a mess and one of the
things that we learned early on as as as
than the feds on the FED side because we
were deeper in the court system there in
the city nothing goes to trial
everybody's just bled out so but in the
FED system a lot of stuff goes to Tron
I've been through quite a few of them is
90% of the game is not the facts it's
just not you know the old adage you get
the facts pound the facts if not pound
the table it's just not court is not
about facts 90% of time I wish it were
civil court is contractual Court
criminal court if someone's going to
trial they're just trying to make this
guy somewhat likable and you go back and
look at the research on this it's
conclusive you know there was that case
a while back with the two drug dealers
The Identical case they're both accused
of the same thing in the same crime one
gets like 20 years one guy gets five and
when they asked the jurors later they're
like yeah one guy was just like a
that that's not a reason and the thing
about Cohen the problem they have is not
only is he a convicted perjurer he's now
been eviscerated his credibility in
front of every branch of government in
this courtroom multiple times and he
just comes off unlikable that's why the
14-year-old story the story about the
women for Michael Cohen that's not
irrelevant stuff people are probably
like well what does that have to do with
the law this case has nothing to do with
the law the jury's trying to determine
who do they dislike more because it's a
blue state do they dislike Donald Trump
or Michael Cohen and blanch I thought
today today when it when that testimony
happened did an absolutely masterful job
of eviscerating this guy's credibility
and likability the likability thing is
critical he he on that subject of
likeability he zeroed in on something
we've been discussing here which is what
kind of an attorney tapes his client
surreptitiously the reason we've heard
Trump talking to Cohen about the payoff
not stormy which is that issue in this
case but to Karen McDougall another
woman who was trying to shake him down
from money or actually that let me
correct that she was going to strike a
deal with AMI American Media National
inquir to write M write uh stories for
them about Fitness in exchange for not
you know giving the story to anybody
else about her love affair with Trump so
she says uh the reason that's on taped
is because Michael Cohen taped his own
client and going back and talking to him
about how he buried it I mean it's
really like it is beyond the pale for a
lawyer to do that to a client and blanch
zero did on it on Thursday and said this
is from audio from a September 2016
conversation blanch you understand that
it's not ethical for a lawyer to record
a conversation with their client Cohen
agrees and then adds that recording a
client conversation is permitted under
the cried crime fraud exception to the
attorney client privilege rules meaning
it's not privileged if you and I are
talking about uh committing a crime
together but the hush money payment is
not a crime it's not so whatever okay so
then blanch says just so I understand
you surreptitiously recorded your client
so you could play a privileged recorded
communication between you and your
client with a third party Cohen that's
correct he admits it he wanted to play
for somebody else he ads it and Megan
this is so sleazy again let's separate
legality from likability okay the
likeability thing is huge in this case
it is super important I mean look at the
data on parole Le right parole Le if you
get a if you get there in front of your
parole board after lunch you got a
greater chance of getting parole because
everybody's in a good mood Michael Cohen
is putting everyone in a bad mood no one
no one not a jurist not a Democrat not a
republican wants to be surreptitiously
taped by someone they Place their trust
in no less an attorney having said that
this is viewed on so unfavorably that in
the State of Florida and Maryland two
states I lived in it is patently illegal
to tape someone without both par is
consenting New York's a I believe is a
one party consent State meaning if you
consent and you're on the phone you can
record it but that's a that that that
that that is viewed so that's considered
so shady that some states have said you
can't even do that you need a lawyer to
a client if you're my client I have a
fiduciary obligation to you I have an
ethical obligation to protect you
there's no there is no legal or
likeability explanation why you know I
argued this this came out I believe it
was the prosecution too introduced this
and I'm sitting there on my show and
like you I'm like having sat through
trial and TR like who the hell thought
this was a good
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