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21 Mar 202420:24

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses the potential future of Russell Wilson with the Pittsburgh Steelers, comparing his situation to that of Justin Fields. It explores the likelihood of Wilson starting the full season, the possibility of him being cut, and the implications of a potential quarterback competition. The conversation also touches on the dynamics of quarterback personalities and the impact of Patrick Mahomes on the NFL, drawing parallels with how Stephen Curry changed the game of basketball.

Takeaways

  • 🏈 The discussion revolves around the potential performance and future of Russell Wilson in the Steelers, with debates on whether he will start the full 17 games or face a possible cut in training camp.
  • 📈 Russell Wilson's stats from the previous season are highlighted, including 26 touchdowns and 8 picks, and his sixth highest passer rating in the league, despite not looking as good as the numbers suggest.
  • 🀔 There's speculation about the Steelers' intentions with both Russell Wilson and Justin Fields, with the team's actions indicating higher hopes for Wilson initially.
  • 🔄 The conversation touches on the idea that if there's a quarterback competition, and Fields wins, the Steelers might not want Wilson as a backup due to his persona and desire to start.
  • 🎯 The opinion is expressed that Wilson doesn't need to be unplayable to be cut, but rather, if he's not the starting quarterback, the team may not want him as a backup.
  • 🏆 A ranking of AFC wide receiver duos is discussed, with Tyreek Hill and Mecole Hardman from the Chiefs being considered the best, followed by other notable pairs like Amari Cooper and Jerry Judy.
  • 💪 Patrick Mahomes' workout and preparation are mentioned, with a focus on his new wide receiver tandem and how it might impact the Chiefs' performance.
  • 🏀 A comparison is made between the impact of Stephen Curry on basketball and Patrick Mahomes on football, with Mahomes potentially changing the quarterback position in the NFL.
  • 🚀 The influence of mobile quarterbacks like Mahomes is highlighted, suggesting a shift in the NFL towards more athletic passers who can make plays both with their arms and legs.
  • 📊 The script also discusses the importance of catch rate and drop percentage for wide receivers, using Hollywood Brown's stats as an example to analyze the impact of quarterback play on receiver performance.
  • 🀝 The idea that certain quarterbacks, like Russell Wilson, may be 'starters only' due to their market value and persona is explored, with the possibility that they may seek a trade if they are not named the starter.

Q & A

  • What was the expectation for the show on Monday?

    -The expectation was that everything would be fixed by Monday, indicating a previous issue or problem that needed resolution.

  • What is the significance of 'March Madness' in this context?

    -In this context, 'March Madness' refers to a show or event that has its own version of the popular college basketball tournament, likely a competition or series of events with a similar atmosphere of excitement and unpredictability.

  • Who is Brew and what is his role in the show?

    -Brew is a long-time member of the show, referred to as the 'Russ guy.' He is expected to provide statistics and insights, particularly about the player Russell Wilson.

  • What was the bad news mentioned in the transcript?

    -The bad news was that the person addressed had to sit through 15 seats of 'takes,' which likely refers to having to listen to a number of opinions or commentary segments.

  • What was the discussion about Russell Wilson's performance?

    -The discussion revolved around Russell Wilson's performance, specifically his stats of 26 touchdowns and eight picks, and his passer rating. While some argued his stats were good, others noted that he didn't look as good as the numbers suggested.

  • What were the speculations about Russell Wilson's future with the Steelers?

    -There were speculations that Russell Wilson might not start the full 17 games, or might only play one game in Pittsburgh before being cut or replaced. However, the general consensus was that unless he couldn't play well, it was unlikely he would be cut in training camp.

  • What was the Steelers' strategy in acquiring Russell Wilson over Justin Fields?

    -The Steelers chose to acquire Russell Wilson over Justin Fields, despite knowing Fields was available. They gave up a six-round pick for Wilson, indicating they had higher hopes for him than for Fields, who they didn't trade up to acquire.

  • What was the argument about the potential backup quarterback situation for the Steelers?

    -The argument was that if Russell Wilson was not named the starting quarterback, the Steelers would not want him as a backup, as he would likely not accept that role. There was also a discussion about whether Wilson would be willing to be a backup at this stage in his career.

  • What was the comparison made between Patrick Mahomes and another sports figure?

    -Patrick Mahomes was compared to Stephen Curry in terms of their impact on their respective sports. Just as Curry changed basketball with his three-point shooting, Mahomes is changing football with his ability to make any lead feel unsafe with his late-game comebacks.

  • What was the ranking of the Chiefs' wide receiver duo in the AFC?

    -The Chiefs' wide receiver duo was ranked as the third best in the AFC, with the expectation that having Patrick Mahomes as their quarterback would significantly boost their performance.

  • What was the discussion about the wide receiver rankings in the AFC?

    -The discussion involved ranking the top wide receiver duos in the AFC. The top five were discussed, with Tyreek Hill and Mecole Hardman being the top-ranked duo, followed by others like Davante Adams and Justin Jefferson, showcasing the strength of the NFC in terms of wide receiver talent.

Outlines

00:00

🏈 NFL Quarterback Speculation

The paragraph discusses the potential future of Russell Wilson in the NFL, particularly his role in the Pittsburgh Steelers. It explores the possibility of Wilson not starting the full 17 games, his performance, and the team's interest in Justin Fields. The conversation also touches on the Steelers' draft strategy, the potential for a quarterback competition, and the likelihood of Wilson being traded or released.

05:01

🏈 Quarterback Competition and Team Dynamics

This paragraph delves deeper into the quarterback competition between Russell Wilson and Justin Fields within the Steelers organization. It discusses the implications of Wilson not being the named starter, the team's commitment to Wilson, and the potential impact on team dynamics. The conversation also considers the market for Wilson and the likelihood of him accepting a backup role.

10:02

🏈 AFC Wide Receiver Duo Rankings

The focus of this paragraph is on the rankings of wide receiver duos in the AFC. It presents a top five list, discussing the strengths and potential of various combinations, such as Tyreek Hill and Mecole Hardman, Amari Cooper and Jerry Judy, and others. The paragraph also includes a brief analysis of the Chiefs' receiving corps and how the addition of Patrick Mahomes could elevate their rankings.

15:03

🏈 Wide Receiver Performance and Quarterback Impact

This paragraph continues the discussion on wide receivers, comparing the performance of Rashid Rice and Hollywood Brown. It examines the catch rate and drop rate of these players, the influence of quarterback play, and how these factors contribute to their rankings. The conversation also touches on the potential of other receiver duos and the impact of individual talent on team success.

20:03

🏀 The Evolution of the Quarterback Position

The final paragraph shifts focus from football to basketball, drawing a comparison between the impact of Stephen Curry on the game and the potential influence of Patrick Mahomes. It discusses how Mahomes' style of play is changing the quarterback position in the NFL, with a move towards more athletic and mobile passers. The conversation also reflects on the legacy of Tom Brady and the evolving dynamics of the sport.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡March Madness

March Madness refers to the annual NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament in the United States, where 64 teams compete in a single-elimination format to determine the national champion. In the context of the script, it is used metaphorically to describe a sports-related show or event, indicating a high level of excitement and competition.

💡Russell Wilson

Russell Wilson is a professional American football quarterback who has played in the NFL since 2012. In the script, he is the subject of discussion regarding his performance, potential future with the team, and his statistics from a previous season.

💡Steelers

The Pittsburgh Steelers are a professional American football team based in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and are part of the NFL's AFC North division. In the script, they are mentioned in relation to their interest in Russell Wilson and the potential for him to be their starting quarterback.

💡Justin Fields

Justin Fields is an American football quarterback who played college football at Ohio State and was drafted by the Chicago Bears in the 2021 NFL Draft. In the script, Fields is discussed as a potential quarterback for the Steelers and his comparison with Russell Wilson.

💡Quarterback

A quarterback is a position in American football and other gridiron football-related sports, typically the leader of the offense and the player responsible for calling plays. In the script, the term is central to the discussion, focusing on the performance and future of quarterbacks like Russell Wilson and Justin Fields.

💡Training Camp

In American football, a training camp is a period of practice and training before the start of the regular season where teams finalize their roster and prepare for the upcoming season. The script mentions training camp in the context of Russell Wilson's potential future with the Steelers.

💡Passer Rating

Passer rating is a statistic in American football that measures the effectiveness of a quarterback's passing performance. It is calculated based on completions, attempts, passing yards, touchdowns, and interceptions. In the script, Russell Wilson's passer rating is mentioned as part of his performance metrics.

💡Draft Pick

A draft pick is the right to select a player from a pool of eligible college football players during the NFL Draft. Teams often trade these picks in strategic moves to acquire players who can improve their roster. In the script, draft picks are discussed in the context of the Steelers' decision to acquire Russell Wilson.

💡Backup Quarterback

A backup quarterback is a player who supports the starting quarterback and only plays in games when the starter is unable to due to injury or poor performance. In professional football, being a backup often means not having the same opportunities to showcase skills as a starter. The script discusses the possibility of Russell Wilson not wanting to be a backup.

💡Starting Quarterback

The starting quarterback is the player who leads the offensive team onto the field at the beginning of a game and is typically the primary passer and decision-maker for the team's offensive strategy. The script includes discussions about the potential for Russell Wilson to be the starting quarterback for the Steelers and the implications of that role.

💡Wide Receiver Duo

A wide receiver duo refers to a pair of wide receivers on a football team who work together and are often evaluated as a unit based on their combined performance. In the script, the discussion includes a ranking of various AFC wide receiver duos, including those of Patrick Mahomes.

Highlights

Discussion on Russell Wilson's performance and future with the Steelers.

Debate on whether Russell Wilson could be cut from the team or not.

Speculation on the possibility of Russell Wilson not starting the full 17 games.

Comparison of Russell Wilson's stats and his actual performance.

Discussion on the Steelers' decision-making process in acquiring Russell Wilson over Justin Fields.

Opinion on Justin Fields' potential and his fit within the Steelers.

Debate on the likelihood of a quarterback competition between Wilson and Fields.

Analysis of the potential impact of Russell Wilson's persona on his role within the team.

Discussion on the Steelers' strategy with their quarterback depth chart.

Comparison of Patrick Mahomes' impact on the game similar to Stephen Curry's influence on basketball.

Debate on the effectiveness of different quarterback styles in the modern NFL.

Ranking of wide receiver duos in the AFC with the Chiefs' new tandem.

Discussion on the potential of the Chiefs' wide receiver duo with Patrick Mahomes.

Comparison of the Chiefs' wide receiver duo to other notable AFC duos.

Analysis of the impact of quarterback play on wide receiver statistics.

Discussion on the evolution of the quarterback position in the NFL.

Transcripts

00:01

that was the worst one you got in my

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head Monday it's going to be all fixed

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it better be Monday it'll be all by from

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New York we're sto it's a show that has

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their own version of March Madness Yeah

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March Madness of takes that is don't

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remind who will reveal o well I've got

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bad news you're 15 seat of takes today

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well I do think it's on the board but I

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I listen Brew is the Russ guy he has

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been for years and years on this show so

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I usually I just haven't written any off

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I just say 26 touchdowns and eight picks

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is good that's all I

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say wild listen when we do momes topics

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you usually give me the respect of

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letting me go first so when we do Russ

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topics we should give Brew the respect

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let counch so go ahead no but he's

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wanted to go first we said it for the

00:51

show you were too busy fixing your hair

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so I don't know who this executive is

00:55

it's just scuttlebutt it is hogwash

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Scuttle butt Bal Dash it's Tommy rot if

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I ever heard of that all right Tom look

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it up cuz that's what this is all right

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really now look I'm gonna be fair

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because I'm I'm not like in love with

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Russell Wilson but I'm just gonna be

01:13

fair is there a chance he doesn't start

01:16

the full 17 games sure is there is he

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possibly or likely even one and done in

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Pittsburgh sure is he going to get cut

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in training camp no way way all right

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there's no way that's happening unless

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he goes out there and really just can't

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play professional football so there is a

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way that's no that's not going to happen

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because you can talk about how bad he

01:42

was and I've even admit it he wasn't as

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good as the stats suggest why do you

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keep but they are stats I mean they are

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kept for a reason that's generally how

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we measure people and so he didn't look

01:53

quite as good as the numbers but he did

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produce those numbers of 26 and8 and the

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six highest passer rating in the League

02:00

all right the fact of the matter is

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this the Steelers have more hope for

02:07

Russell Wilson next season or this

02:09

upcoming season than they do for Justin

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field based on what based on who they

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bring in first Russell W they knew

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Justin Fields was available that wasn't

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a secret but they went out and brought

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in Russell Wilson what' they give up for

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Justin Fields a six round pick when it

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was a fourth round pick when it was a

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third round pick they weren't interested

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what did they give up for give up no let

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me finish they gave up a six round pick

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and reportedly there are four other

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teams interested in Justin fields and

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the Steelers still didn't say okay we'll

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go up to five we'll go up to four they

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still kept it at sixth round or nothing

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we don't know what he can do bring him

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in why Fields want to go there well

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Fields it's a good opportunity for him

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why because he can learn under Russell

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Wilson and it's a good you don't think

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that but you don't know it's because he

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he we think he I think he want to learn

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under Russell Wilson and he he wants he

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knows it's a good situation hold on so I

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didn't I got to let me finish my tape

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I'm sorry oh I I thought we I thought

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you no I'm saying they they I think they

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have higher hopes for Russ than they do

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for Justin Fields now Justin Fields I'm

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sure they want him to be their

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quarterback in the future if it goes

03:19

well but no this notion that Russell

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Wilson's not going to be there in

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training camp and you know how bad he'd

03:26

have to look or act in training camp for

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them to cut it think that's NE that that

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last supposition is necessarily true but

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I want to go back to what you were

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saying which is why Justin wanted to be

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there thank you because all of the

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reporting that I heard was he wanted to

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be there was not because he could learn

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because that was of the teams that

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wanted him his best chance to play it's

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a it's a who who were the other teams

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that wanted him I think New Orleans

03:53

potentially was on the list and he

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wasn't going to supplant Derek Carr I

03:56

had Philadelphia was on the list he

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wasn't going to supplant but it's not

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but Pittsburgh is a very good team too

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absolutely support your this is the

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quote from Courtney Cronin there were

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five teams that reached out to the Bears

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to gauge their interest on a Fields

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trade but the majority of those teams

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Invision Fields as a backup and but

04:19

Justin wanted to go there and Ryan poles

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is a great guy and did right by him by

04:25

sending him to be have come out and said

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there is no reason for the Steelers to

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come out and say Russell Wilson's going

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to be our starter Russ is on Hard Times

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Russ had a West was benched in Denver

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why' they have to do it because I think

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they say a lot of guys are going to

04:43

start so now now we think so listen said

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it so the reason I I so strongly

04:49

disagree with what you're saying is I I

04:51

don't think Russell Wilson needs to be

04:56

unplayable in order to be cut I I think

05:00

that if Russell Wilson is not the named

05:04

starting quarterback they will not want

05:07

him as the backup I think that if if in

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I think the idea behind this is not oh

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he could be cut in training camp because

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he's going to come out there and not be

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able to throw a football I think what

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they are talking about is if there is

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any semblance of a competition and

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Justin wins it which by the way I am not

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certain he would but if he were that

05:28

they would not won want Russell Wilson

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as the backup quarterback because

05:33

Russell Wilson would not want to be the

05:35

backup quarterback the the reporting as

05:38

of yesterday was in his meeting with the

05:40

Giants they wouldn't certify to him

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you'll be the starter that's one of the

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reasons he didn't want to be there but

05:46

the Steelers did certify yes before they

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had this player have they have we seen

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any reports since they got this player

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no but those reports no they are right

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now still Towing the line and keeping

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the line that Russ is the starter and I

05:58

think Brew they're plan is for Russ to

06:01

be the starter but that can CH if that

06:04

changes I think that it is then very on

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the board that Russ asks them then cut

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me please you guys have no investment in

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me to wait for a quarterback to get hurt

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and to see where he could go but if

06:19

Justin doesn't play well he could end up

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starting in Pittsburgh right no I

06:24

understand that piece of it and if I

06:25

were the Steelers I might tell Russell

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Wilson no we're not doing that actually

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we need did three quarterbacks last year

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you're going to be a good soldier so I I

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am not predicting Brew he will so you

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kind of agree okay no I am I'm

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predicting he's the weak one starter but

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I am

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saying the question buying he might not

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make the Steelers I am 100% buying that

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it is on the board that Justin wins the

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competition and Russ is not the guy they

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want to be the backup that is not the

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the bet I would make but do I think that

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is a greater than 1% like not just Given

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Sunday type of chance do I think there's

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a 10 to 20% chance that that happens yes

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absolutely and I I just I I don't know

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why we have this hangup he he had less

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of a market than Gardener muu if Gardner

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mchu were in Pittsburgh and Justin

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Fields was brought in would we go in

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there saying well yeah there's a chance

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guard that Justin wins that competition

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would we be saying that I don't think

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the Steelers would be saying Gardner V

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shoose our starter if they had signed

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him before they had Justin fields and

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named him the starter of course they

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would why of course they would what do

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you mean why not say we got a

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competition G Mitchell is a career

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backup so we got let's we got a

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competition the the Steelers I think

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they could have said that with Russ to

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be honest that but come in and compete

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but when they signed him and named him

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the starter they didn't have anyone on

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the Justin was not on the team yet so I

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don't think they're going to now have

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like hey sent out a press release saying

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by the way it's now open competition

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they're going to have practice decision

07:59

you're going to see who the better

08:01

player is to Bru point the reason the

08:03

reporting on why Kenny picket left is

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because Kenny picket was promised uh

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opportunity to compete found out Russ

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was basically the starter and then said

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hey I feel lied to or the situation

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changed I need to leave so that would

08:17

support your point but the question I

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have for you is this Brew do you think

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there are some

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quarterbacks who are starters only and

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I'll give you the example when Cam

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Newton started the full Brady Bridge

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year to M Jones M Jones won the

08:35

competition and BJ cut Cam Newton a

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little bit as as a solid to him it's

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like man you're not a backup right

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you're just not you're you're the man

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you're not going to thrive as a backup

08:47

you have to go and he went to Carolina

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he did the cool like I'm back it didn't

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go well in Carolina CU nothing goes well

08:54

in Carolina but it was almost like doing

08:56

him a favor to go find another starting

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job I I think yeah yes I think there are

09:00

quarterbacks like that but Russ at this

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stage of his career I think I mean the

09:05

quarterbacks like that have huge

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personas and he does have a huge persona

09:10

but I also think where is he going where

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was C going well cam eventually accepted

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being a backup in other places you know

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what I mean and I think cam would accept

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being a backup now oh yeah right so I I

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just think he went back didn't he go

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back to Carolina went to Carolina and

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was the starter and then and was out of

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I I just I there there is a lot that

09:35

goes along I don't we all say I

09:38

shouldn't say we all say Shawn pton came

09:40

in and said you know Russ is not having

09:42

his office and his parking spot and all

09:44

those things because Shawn pton changed

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how he wanted R like the Broncos do

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business does not mean Russell Wilson

09:53

changed how he views himself how he

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views you know what I mean his position

09:59

as the face of the franchise no matter

10:01

what the and I'm sure the salary stuff

10:03

is Justified understandably by it would

10:06

make no sense you're getting this amount

10:07

of money no matter what so he's like the

10:09

only player in the league that is not

10:11

you can't look at his salary as his

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value I understand that piece of it

10:14

because he's getting his 39 million from

10:16

Denver I just think there is a lot of

10:20

Personality stuff that is attached to

10:23

Russell Wilson that if he is your not

10:26

your starter you might not want to deal

10:29

with

10:29

that you might not want to have in

10:33

the was kind of like like I said a a

10:36

backup quarterback that draws a lot of

10:38

attention the stuff is not what you want

10:40

the stuff we heard when when cap was

10:42

being black balled and people were

10:43

trying to you know what I mean try to

10:45

act like you can't bring him in be a

10:46

backup there it's all different things

10:48

but the answer really what it all came

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down to was the backup quarterback

10:52

supposed to be either a young player

10:55

learning or Anonymous and Russell Wilson

10:59

would be none of the above I just think

11:00

he's going to start week one I think

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he's going to win or has the job and

11:04

will keep it that's why I think it won't

11:06

happen here's Mahomes hitting the gym

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I've worked out on that thing at equinox

11:09

you stretch out I have you're an equinox

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member I was I wow why that's just

11:15

congrats buddy you're doing well maybe

11:18

you work out there your bones will get

11:20

oh wow

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wow shots fired I call you rich you call

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me weak that Ms uh latest workout he's

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doing awesome stuff and here he is with

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uh his one new wide receiver one old

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wide receiver rashie rice there with the

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T-shirt of shirtless Mahomes with the

11:42

dadbot uh last year this Duo had 130

11:45

receptions and 11 touchdowns now where

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do you think this new tandem ranks in

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the AFC in the AFC is interesting

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because while the AFC has far more great

11:57

quarterbacks than the NFC does I think

11:59

the NFC has better wide rece more

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excellent wide receiver Duos you know

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what I or a deeper group of wide

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receiver Duos so can I interest you in a

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top five Brew oh yes coming in at number

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five this will thrill Brew Wilson and

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Williams so I think Garrett Wilson's

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really good Mike Williams has actually

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only had one awesome season but his

12:22

highlights are so good and his

12:24

athleticism all of that and so we I

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think Wilson and Williams Come

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at number if he's healthy he's an

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excellent number two which is by the way

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what he was in I would argue was the

12:34

number two in with the Chargers he was

12:37

all right coming at number

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four young guys Nico Collins and tank

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Dell now I'm nervous about tank Dell not

12:44

because you're not going to recover from

12:45

the broken leg but because the knock on

12:48

him one of the reasons he fell on the

12:49

draft was you worried about his body

12:52

holding up in felt so slight of frame

12:55

and then he got hurt in his first season

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but I loveed them at number three three

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these guys Rashid rice and Hollywood

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Brown so Rashid rice I think what we saw

13:05

him do over the second half of the Year

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showed once he got more targets how good

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he could be he was he had one of the

13:12

most productive rookie playoff seasons

13:14

of any player other than Jamar Chase and

13:16

I think Hollywood Brown stylistically

13:19

fits what the Chiefs want particularly

13:22

if they add another wide receiver in the

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draft at number two Chason Higgins and

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these you know these top two are pretty

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obvious the only reason you can't even

13:30

argue chasing Higgins for number one is

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because it feels like Higgins

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disposition might not be great if they

13:36

just keep him on the franchise tag sure

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and but even if he were totally happy

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number one still might be number one

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Tyreek and Wadd you have arguably the

13:44

best receiver in the league definitely

13:45

the best receiver in the AFC and Woo is

13:48

great so I think the Chiefs go from

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having the wide receivers were the

13:51

reason they weren't going to win the

13:52

Super Bowl and then they won the superow

13:53

anyway to the third best duo in the

13:55

AFC they got the best quarterback

13:58

obviously thrown the ball to him so

13:59

that's going to be huge um but right now

14:03

I had them much lower than third I

14:05

didn't have him in my top five uh I had

14:08

those other four well I I didn't have I

14:11

had DeAndre Hopkins and Calvin Ridley

14:14

okay that's a terrible really cuz they

14:16

both were over a thousand yards last

14:17

year I think that's a bad I I they don't

14:19

have as good of a quarterback but

14:21

DeAndre Hopkins is better than any of

14:22

those was great he still was really good

14:25

last year so I disag okay you can

14:27

disagree um Calvin rley still very good

14:30

so I'm going with Amari Cooper and Jerry

14:33

Judy Jerry Judy's bad ask Steve Smith

14:35

he's bad buddy okay okay we'll see you

14:38

disag you think Jerry Jud I think he's a

14:39

good number two yeah he could number

14:42

fres start right I I think he he had

14:44

some issues but I think you'll be a good

14:45

held back by quarterback play last year

14:47

to be fair well look those the Chiefs

14:50

receivers got the best quarterback so

14:52

that's going to be big for him I like

14:55

khil Shakir and Stefan Diggs needs a

14:57

better year I I got that I'm not that

15:00

high on your boy it's still an

15:01

improvement you have them at seven I got

15:03

them at nine Devonte Adams and jacobe

15:05

Myers mainly because of Devonte mainly

15:08

because of Devonte and Myers is a good

15:10

number to so that but on the Devonte

15:12

Adams jacobe Myers the other ones you

15:14

listed I think are insane just my take

15:18

Hopkins insane four years ago I'd be

15:21

with you um but the Devonte Adams was a

15:24

tough one because it's almost like he's

15:27

so good is as long could you put him

15:30

with anybody and it's an excellent Duo

15:33

Myers will be a good two he wasn't a one

15:36

no but we saw we saw that last year that

15:38

with the and it was last year um I think

15:41

you're under selling rash rice here's I

15:43

I am so here's r Rice but he might be

15:46

overselling Hollywood Brown I'll give

15:47

you a glass half full this is a

15:49

reception percentage CH rice caught 77%

15:53

of his balls uh Hollywood Brown only 50%

15:57

now we can dig into why he was last in

16:00

the NFL one part perhaps his trying to

16:03

hit more home runs deep balls uh the

16:06

other reason might be quarterback play

16:08

yeah uh but even if I don't expect him

16:11

him to be last so if he brings that up

16:13

also if he has the benefit of having

16:15

other pass catchers around him so maybe

16:18

they're going to play well because of

16:20

momes I'm just looking at the receivers

16:22

in a vacuum so no and I and I'm with

16:24

that and but I just I think that the was

16:28

that stat right there can't be looked at

16:30

in a vacuum because I don't think

16:31

Hollywood I don't think Rashi rice was

16:34

the the most sure-handed receiver in the

16:36

league last year but that stat would

16:37

tell you he was with that to me that is

16:39

a quarterback stat that is a how

16:42

catchable is the ball and with the guys

16:45

playing quarterback for a lot of the

16:46

year for Arizona last year if that you

16:49

know a Target to Hollywood Brown that

16:52

landed eight yards out of bounds counts

16:54

as a Target to him you know and so

16:56

that's a and they're just hard catches

16:58

the level of difficulty of his routes

17:00

are and correct and he had he had some

17:04

very notable drops but his drop

17:06

percentage was 3.4% The League average

17:08

3.2% but he just he had some bombs that

17:11

he dropped so it stood out he's not a

17:13

high drops player all right let's check

17:14

in on I like the signing brw do you like

17:17

this Steph momes comparison I do it's

17:20

right on the money I mean there's no

17:21

doubt about it now you know Steph

17:23

changed the game we know

17:26

stylistically I don't know if he's

17:28

single I guess LeBron's saying because

17:31

Steph changed the game and now

17:33

three-pointers are so prominent that's

17:35

why no lead is safe but with momes I

17:38

mean 13 seconds isn't safe like in

17:42

before that 13 second Drive no one ever

17:47

would have thought you could win a game

17:48

like that or come back in 13 seconds and

17:51

now it's not it's mainly momes he's the

17:54

obviously the the face of it but most

17:58

quarterbacks now a minute left 45

18:01

seconds left just to drive and get a

18:02

field goal like that is viewed as oh

18:05

they got plenty of time left you know

18:08

and now the the other team has to you

18:10

know worry about the clock and how you

18:12

know so yeah I think it's right on the

18:14

money so here's so I I kind of agree

18:17

with you I want to give credit I think

18:19

the first quarterback to make it feel

18:22

like if he got the ball back no matter

18:24

how much time was left he was going to

18:26

find a way was Brady yes Brady Brady to

18:28

me I think momes is going to end up

18:31

being better at it than Tom and he

18:33

already if you look at percentage of

18:35

opportunities what on up to this point

18:37

he's on a far better Pace but to be fair

18:39

to Tom Tom was the guy that it felt like

18:42

always came through in those moments and

18:44

in a way that pton did it that Aaron

18:46

didn't that Big B the other great

18:48

quarterbacks of his era where I do think

18:51

this comp is accurate I just think we

18:53

haven't had enough time to see it yet is

18:57

just like Steph chain the way you watch

19:00

aaou or high school or college

19:03

basketball is played as far as range

19:06

threes I think more of the off platform

19:10

arm angle run around make the play

19:13

downfield rather than play with your

19:14

legs you are going to have an influx of

19:17

and Caleb is the first one to play and I

19:21

know Aaron Rogers did that to an degree

19:23

but that was a long time between Aaron

19:24

and momes and so I think he is going to

19:27

change the way the quarterback position

19:29

is played for a lot of guys as the

19:32

league moves away from the statuesque

19:34

pocket passers and more to the athletic

19:36

quarterbacks where you see guys play a

19:39

lot it's like oh he's a poor man's

19:41

Patrick Mahomes oh he's trying to be

19:43

Patrick Mahomes like we kind of say Trey

19:45

Young's trying to be step in certain I

19:48

think to your point Rogers did it Brady

19:50

did it but they were two of the few

19:53

really the only ones kind of doing it

19:55

now others are it feels like other

19:57

quarterbacks have a better chance of

19:59

doing it now than ever before and that's

20:01

where I think Steph is In N good

20:03

answerers actually just deeper field

20:05

goals was what we were looking for it's

20:08

just Justin Tucker can hit 65 yard field

20:10

goals now buter can hit long I mean it's

20:12

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