The Beef Might Be Over

fantano
6 May 202412:38

Summary

TLDRIn this video, Anthony Fantano discusses the ongoing feud between Drake and Kendrick Lamar, known as 'beef watch 2024'. He notes that while initially it seemed to be a contest of artistic talent, the situation has escalated into a smear campaign with both artists making serious allegations against each other, many of which remain unconfirmed. Fantano questions the authenticity of the claims and the potential misuse of influence if based on rumors. He also highlights the public's alignment with their preconceived notions and the impact on the artists' reputations. The video concludes with speculation that the feud may be nearing its end, as Drake's recent response suggests a shift to a defensive stance and a potential disinterest in further engagement.

Takeaways

  • 🎧 The ongoing beef between Drake and Kendrick Lamar has reached a new peak with Drake's release of 'Herbert Part 6', which is seen as a strategic move to potentially prevent Kendrick from using the same title.
  • πŸ”₯ Anthony Fantano is not focusing on who is winning or the quality of the songs, but rather providing commentary on the current state of the feud and its implications.
  • πŸ“‰ The beef has escalated beyond artistic competition and has turned into a smear campaign aimed at destroying each other's reputations.
  • πŸ€” There is a lack of confirmation on the veracity of the accusations being made by both artists, leading to speculation and uncertainty.
  • πŸ‘₯ Both Kendrick and Drake have made serious allegations against each other, with Kendrick accusing Drake of inappropriate behavior and Drake accusing Kendrick of being a 'fake woke' and having personal issues.
  • 🚫 Despite the viral nature of the claims, no concrete evidence has been presented to support the accusations, raising questions about their truthfulness.
  • 🧐 Fantano questions whether Kendrick has the proof to back up his claims or if he is relying on rumors, and whether Drake is simply bad at lying or is telling the truth.
  • πŸ‘¨β€πŸ‘§β€πŸ‘¦ Drake's accusations include personal attacks on Kendrick's family life and allegations of abuse, which are unconfirmed but have the potential to be career-ending if true.
  • πŸ“‰ There are signs that the feud may be nearing its end, with TD Punch suggesting the battle was good and Drake's recent response indicating a shift to a defensive stance.
  • πŸ† The goal of a rap beef is typically to declare a winner, and if Drake chooses to ignore further provocations from Kendrick, it could be seen as him conceding defeat.
  • 🌐 The internet has changed the dynamics of rap beefs, with the public expecting a direct confrontation rather than the subtle subliminals that Drake typically uses.

Q & A

  • What is the current state of the ongoing feud between Drake and Kendrick Lamar?

    -The feud has reached a very interesting place with Drake's latest contribution, 'The Heart Part 6', which is seen as a strategic move to potentially deprive Kendrick of using the same title for his response.

  • What is Anthony Fantano's intention with this video?

    -Anthony Fantano does not intend to discuss who is winning or which artist has the better songs. Instead, he aims to provide a larger commentary on the state of the feud and observe the dark and strange direction it is taking.

  • What are the implications of the accusations made by Kendrick and Drake against each other?

    -The accusations have escalated into a smear campaign against each other's reputations, with mutual destruction and fast-flying allegations, many of which have not been confirmed as true.

  • What is the significance of Drake's title 'The Heart Part 6' in the context of the feud?

    -The title is seen as a strategic move by Drake to troll Kendrick and potentially prevent him from releasing a song with the same title, which would remind the public of the current feud.

  • What are some of the allegations Kendrick has made against Drake?

    -Kendrick has accused Drake of being involved with underage girls, downloading PDF files (a euphemism for illegal activities), and having a child he is not involved with. However, these allegations lack confirmed evidence.

  • What are some of the allegations Drake has made against Kendrick?

    -Drake has accused Kendrick of being a fake 'woke' individual, moving to New York and distancing himself from his family, having a child with his creative partner Dave Free, and being physically abusive towards his partner Whitney.

  • How does Anthony Fantano view the public's reaction to the feud?

    -Fantano observes that fans are aligning themselves based on preconceived notions and buying into narratives more easily depending on which artist they favor.

  • What is the role of truth in the songs released by Kendrick and Drake during this feud?

    -The truthfulness of the claims made in their songs is questionable, as there is no concrete evidence to support many of the serious allegations. The focus has shifted from artistic talent to personal attacks.

  • How does Anthony Fantano perceive Drake's latest response in the feud?

    -Fantano suggests that Drake's latest response indicates a shift to a more defensive stance, with a less intense delivery, possibly signaling that Drake is ready to move on from the feud.

  • What are some signs that the feud might be nearing its end?

    -TD Punch's comment on Twitter, suggesting the battle was good, and Drake's defensive and less intense track indicate that the feud might be drawing to a close.

  • How does Anthony Fantano feel about the public's perception of rap beefs?

    -Fantano believes that despite the internet changing how rap beefs are viewed, the public still desires a clear winner, and if Drake chooses to ignore Kendrick, it could be seen as him conceding the feud.

Outlines

00:00

🎀 The Evolution and Dark Turn of Drake vs. Kendrick Beef

Anthony Fantano discusses the ongoing feud between Drake and Kendrick Lamar, known as 'beef watch 2024'. Initially, it seemed like a contest of artistic talent, with fans eager to see who would come out on top in the hip-hop sphere. However, the situation has escalated into a smear campaign, with both artists trading accusations and the public left to decipher truth from fiction. Fantano emphasizes the lack of confirmed facts and the shift from artistic competition to personal attacks and reputation destruction.

05:01

πŸ” Unconfirmed Allegations and the Impact on Reputations

The paragraph delves into the specific accusations made by Kendrick against Drake, including allegations of inappropriate behavior with minors and drug use. Fantano questions the validity of these claims due to the absence of concrete evidence. Similarly, Drake's counter-accusations against Kendrick, such as being 'fake woke' and having personal issues, are highlighted. The paragraph also addresses the potential implications of these unverified claims on the artists' careers and public image, and the role of social media in amplifying the feud.

10:04

πŸ“‰ Signs of Feud Fatigue and the Quest for a Winner

Fantano suggests that the feud may be nearing its end, citing recent developments such as TD punch's comments on Twitter and Drake's subdued response in his latest track. He notes a shift in Drake's approach, indicating a possible disinterest in further engagement with the feud. The paragraph also reflects on the nature of rap beefs and the public's desire for a clear winner. Fantano ponders whether Drake's lack of aggressive response signals a concession, and how this might affect the public's perception of the conflict.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘Beef

In the context of the video, 'beef' refers to an ongoing dispute or rivalry, particularly within the music industry. It often involves public exchanges of criticism or diss tracks. The video discusses the beef between Kendrick Lamar and Drake, highlighting how it has evolved from a competition of artistic merit to a personal and reputational smear campaign.

πŸ’‘Artistry

Artistry in this video script denotes the skill and creativity involved in musical composition and performance. Initially, the rivalry between Kendrick and Drake was anticipated to be a showcase of their artistry, with fans eager to see who could produce the superior music. However, the video suggests that the focus has shifted away from artistry to personal attacks.

πŸ’‘Smear Campaign

A smear campaign is an organized effort to harm someone's reputation by spreading negative or false information. In the script, it is mentioned that both Kendrick and Drake are engaged in such campaigns against each other, with accusations flying without much confirmation of their validity, thus shifting the focus of their dispute from music to personal destruction.

πŸ’‘Reputation

Reputation refers to the beliefs or opinions that are generally held about someone's character or actions. The video discusses how both artists' reputations are being targeted in their ongoing dispute. The mutual destruction of each other's reputations is a central theme, with the public left to question the veracity of the accusations being made.

πŸ’‘Diss Track

A diss track is a song that expresses negative feelings towards another person, often used in the context of a feud or rivalry. The video mentions Kendrick and Drake's contributions to their beef in the form of diss tracks, which have become viral and are part of the public discourse surrounding their conflict.

πŸ’‘Influence

Influence, as discussed in the video, pertains to the capacity to affect the character, development, or behavior of someone or something. The script touches on the misuse of influence if the accusations made in diss tracks are not based on truth, highlighting the responsibility that comes with having a significant impact on public opinion.

πŸ’‘Lyrical Ability

Lyrical ability refers to the skill of writing or composing lyrics, especially in the context of songwriting. The video contrasts Kendrick's lyrical prowess and mastery of songwriting with Drake's, suggesting that Kendrick's talent could potentially make him a more convincing 'liar' if the accusations in his diss tracks are unfounded.

πŸ’‘Public Perception

Public perception is how the general public views a particular situation or individual. The video discusses how the internet has changed the dynamics of a 'beef' and public perception of it, with the audience wanting a clear winner. It also touches on how fans align themselves based on preconceived notions and the narratives they are more inclined to believe.

πŸ’‘Confirmation

Confirmation, in this context, means the verification or substantiation of claims or allegations. The script emphasizes the lack of confirmation regarding the accusations made by both Kendrick and Drake, leaving the audience in a state of uncertainty about the truth behind the feud.

πŸ’‘Narrative

A narrative is a story or account of events, often involving a series of incidents. The video talks about how people are buying into certain narratives based on their preferences for one artist over the other. It also discusses how the narrative of the beef has shifted from an artistic competition to a personal and reputational attack.

πŸ’‘Trolling

Trolling refers to the act of deliberately provoking or upsetting others, often for one's own amusement or to cause disruption. The video mentions Drake's choice of title for his track, 'Heart Part Six', as a trolling tactic aimed at Kendrick, potentially preventing him from using the same title for a future release.

Highlights

The ongoing beef between Drake and Kendrick Lamar has reached a new peak with Drake's release of 'Her Part 6'.

Drake's title choice might prevent Kendrick from using a similar title for his own track, thus trolling him.

The beef has evolved into a dark and strange place, moving beyond artistic competition.

Initially, the public anticipated a contest of skill between two major artists representing different aspects of hip-hop.

The conflict has become personal, with potential exposure of private matters for both artists.

Kendrick's accusations against Drake have gone viral, including allegations of inappropriate behavior with minors.

Despite the viral nature of the accusations, there is no confirmed evidence to support the claims made by Kendrick.

Drake has also made serious allegations against Kendrick, including claims of fake wokeness and personal misconduct.

Drake's strategy in the beef has been questioned, particularly regarding the authenticity of his claims and his ability to lie convincingly.

Whitney's brother, related to Kendrick, has publicly supported Kendrick, which raises questions about the validity of the abuse allegations.

There are signs that the beef may be nearing its end, with both artists potentially ready to move on.

Drake's recent response suggests a shift to a defensive stance and a lack of desire to continue the feud.

The public perception of rap beef has evolved, but the desire for a clear winner remains.

Drake's typical approach to addressing disdain in his music does not align with the direct nature of this public feud.

The internet's preference for a clear one-on-one confrontation challenges Drake's usual narrative of being against the entire industry.

Anthony Fantano invites viewers to share their thoughts on the situation in the comments.

Transcripts

00:00

hey everyone Anthony fantano here

00:02

internet's busiest music nerd I hope

00:04

you're doing well yep beef watch 2024

00:08

it's a thing that is still ongoing it's

00:10

reached a very interesting place and

00:12

Peak as of right now with the release of

00:15

Drake's latest contribution to the back

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and forth that would be the heart part

00:20

six which as I've already said before on

00:24

live title wise is just a genius move on

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his part to sort of troll Kendra in that

00:30

way and down the road potentially

00:32

deprive him of the ability of writing a

00:37

song with the same title which he will

00:39

most likely put out his own Heart part

00:41

six at some point but uh now whenever he

00:44

does eventually drop it it's not going

00:46

to be able to to hit the streets as it

00:49

were uh without giving us a reminder of

00:52

this situation this moment in time right

00:54

here what I want to do with this video

00:56

is not necessarily tell you guys who I

00:59

think is winning

01:00

or like uh who's had the best bars and

01:03

the best songs in this back and forth so

01:05

far I'm not here to go over any of these

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tracks line by line in fact I've been

01:11

doing that on my tnd streams Channel

01:13

this video instead is going to be a

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larger commentary on the state of this

01:17

beef right now and just it's an

01:21

observation of the supremely dark and

01:23

strange place that this is all headed in

01:25

because here's the thing while for sure

01:27

it is true uh that this beef this back

01:30

and forth with Kendrick and Drake uh has

01:32

been a long time coming has been

01:34

something that uh from fans of each

01:37

artist I think a lot of people have been

01:38

looking forward to seeing mostly because

01:41

uh Drake is so huge Kendrick is so huge

01:44

and each of them respectively represent

01:46

uh two very different sides and Vibes uh

01:50

within the hip-hop sphere and just them

01:53

going Toe to Toe would actually show

01:55

artistically who's actually the best

01:58

who's actually the most uh relevant

02:00

who's actually the the king of hip-hop

02:03

right now in this day and age to put it

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bluntly and it seemed like At first

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that's the direction things uh were were

02:12

going to go in you know with Kendrick

02:13

asserting um like that with Metro boom

02:16

in the future uh that he's the best

02:18

there's no big three it's just big him

02:21

and then Cole getting involved and

02:23

dipping out and Drake uh firing back

02:25

after that with push-ups I mean for sure

02:27

at some point this beef was going to get

02:30

personal and some ugly things about

02:32

Drake that uh have been shared and

02:34

rumored in the music industry for a long

02:37

time uh would probably come up uh

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Kendrick uh usually leads a pretty

02:42

private lifestyle but that doesn't mean

02:44

that there aren't skeletons in his

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closet we could be potentially learning

02:47

new stuff about him as a result of all

02:48

of this even though that kind of stuff

02:50

getting dragged out was most likely

02:53

inevitable because that's the kind of

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stuff that tends to get dragged out in

02:56

beefs I still assumed on some level like

02:59

ultimately what this was going to come

03:01

down to was just a show of talent who

03:05

could write the better bars who could

03:07

write the better song who could deliver

03:10

the most scathing disses but right now

03:13

this has so moved beyond that to the

03:16

point where this is not about Artistry

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this is not about songwriting this is

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not about who's more barred up at all

03:23

what Kendrick and Drake are currently

03:24

engrossed in is this vicious and

03:28

Relentless smear campaign against each

03:30

other this Mutual destruction of each

03:32

other's reputations and as a result

03:35

accusations are flying by at a million

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miles an hour in both directions and we

03:41

like have little to no

03:43

confirmation on whether or not the vast

03:47

majority of any of it is even real for

03:50

the fans just like the artists it's not

03:52

even coming down to whether or not one

03:54

artist is making better songs than the

03:56

other it's it's about whether or not one

03:59

is slander ing the other in a more

04:01

Superior fashion and and whose

04:03

accusations are sticking and Landing

04:05

harder and people seem to be aligning

04:08

themselves based on their preconceived

04:11

notions of the other person and buying

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into certain narratives more easily uh

04:15

based on whether or not they tend to

04:17

like uh the guy on one side or the guy

04:20

on the other side I mean let's start

04:22

with Kendrick here since uh his

04:24

accusations against Drake uh have been

04:26

some of the most viral on the internet

04:29

and are going pretty far he alleges

04:32

literally in his latest track not like

04:35

us uh that Drake is a downloader of PDF

04:38

files and for sure as somebody who has

04:40

followed Drake's career pretty closely

04:42

over the past decade plus I understand

04:45

where that perception comes from given

04:48

his multiple documented interactions uh

04:51

public or otherwise that he's had with

04:53

women who haven't quite turned 18 yet

04:57

there's also that Wild video of him live

04:59

from years ago where he kisses that

05:01

17-year-old girl on stage and continues

05:03

to have very odd interactions and

05:07

comments about her even after he learns

05:09

how old she is so again I understand why

05:13

these suspicious looks would be thrown

05:15

Drake's way viav this but uh as of right

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now there are no confirmed cases of

05:22

Drake uh doing anything along the lines

05:25

of being an actual PDF file guy I'm not

05:29

like us Kendrick also names members of

05:30

Drake's team and accuses them of similar

05:33

things too also throwing hardcore drugs

05:36

into the mix as well even with these

05:37

songs going as viral as they have uh we

05:40

still have no true confirmation that any

05:43

of this is in fact true and you have to

05:46

wonder does Kendrick actually have the

05:47

receipts to back anything he's saying up

05:50

or is he just kind of going off of

05:52

rumors there is of course also the

05:54

allegation which we will get into uh in

05:56

a little bit that Drake has another

05:59

child uh that he's not only just hiding

06:01

from the public but apparently like not

06:03

involved uh in the life of an

06:05

11-year-old girl and while I have seen

06:08

uh some various commentators on the

06:10

internet uh talking about a few

06:13

individuals that that might possibly be

06:16

her at this very moment there's still no

06:18

confirmation that that is even true so

06:20

as well put together and conceived and

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compelling uh as the tracks that

06:26

Kendrick has made against Drake R it's

06:29

important to Remember at the end of the

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day um there's been nothing so far to

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actually prove if uh what Kendrick is

06:38

throwing out there is actually 110% the

06:40

truth which uh again even if the songs

06:43

are good and entertaining and they're

06:45

going after a guy that maybe a lot of

06:46

people in rap music have been seeing

06:48

want to just kind of fall down for a

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while if he's not going off the truth

06:53

that's kind of a a misuse of his

06:55

influence then on the other side there's

06:57

Drake who has thrown out numerous accus

06:59

ations against Kendrick uh in his uh

07:02

Family Matters video and single in this

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latest one he's just put out the hard

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part six that I just mentioned and it's

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a laundry list it's that Kendrick is a

07:12

fake woke that he's moved to New York

07:15

he's not with his family anymore he's

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broken up with Whitney uh one of the

07:19

kids that she's had uh is actually uh

07:22

that of his uh creative partner and

07:24

manager Dave free and on top of it

07:26

Kendrick uh was physically abused

07:29

abusive to his partner Whitney at one

07:33

point and as damning and as scathing uh

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and you know potentially career ending

07:38

as a lot of these accusations are uh

07:41

these are yet to be fully confirmed too

07:44

especially as Drake makes the claim that

07:46

oh yeah we leaked the information to you

07:48

and you ran with it and now you're

07:50

embarrassed which like in my mind no

07:53

godamn way that's true if it was my

07:55

prerogative to trick someone into saying

07:58

something false about me through another

08:00

Channel or whatever you would be damn

08:02

well sure that I would have whatever

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phone calls or DMS over which that

08:08

happened recorded screenshotted and then

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ready the moment that that person lied

08:13

about me to share to the world like

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there's there's only one way in which

08:18

that trap that dupe actually works it's

08:20

when you actually pull the trigger and

08:23

you show the world that this guy is an

08:25

idiot who's lying about you and believed

08:27

false information that you told him you

08:29

don't wait days and days and days down

08:31

the road to actually spill this

08:33

information and number two Drake did

08:36

have a genuine initial very quick

08:39

reaction to the allegations that he has

08:42

an 11-year-old child and that was in

08:44

this random Instagram story where he was

08:46

like no no I don't have a kid don't

08:48

worry tell me about this kid that I like

08:51

again obviously he was paying attention

08:53

to the whole thing go down if he

08:55

actually had that information or if that

08:57

was his strategy all along wouldn't that

08:59

that be when you announce to the world

09:02

aha I tricked you so I think he's just

09:04

saying it now on this track to uh

09:06

[Β __Β ] cope but that doesn't mean that

09:08

maybe uh other stuff that he's saying

09:11

couldn't be real and that doesn't

09:13

necessarily mean that Everything

09:14

Kendrick is saying is uh the truth

09:16

either because at the end of the day

09:18

with Kendrick's lyrical ability his

09:19

Mastery of songwriting that Drake just

09:21

doesn't have on the same level Kendrick

09:23

could just be a better liar than Drake

09:25

is I mean that's the thing Drake could

09:27

just be really shitty at lying because I

09:29

I think he's as conniving as he thinks

09:32

he is or maybe some people thinks he is

09:34

how was this man baited into leaking his

09:36

own DMS with a cookie recipe it's beyond

09:38

me but it happened and if Drake did

09:40

actually leak this information to

09:42

Kendrick and that was his plan um I I

09:45

guess it would be uh you know very draan

09:48

of him to uh uh do that and not actually

09:51

record any of the proof that you tricked

09:52

him there's also been a viral tweet that

09:54

people have been going crazy about uh

09:56

from Whitney's brother her own brother

09:58

uh supporting Kendrick in the midst of

10:00

this beef and I can't imagine that if uh

10:03

my sister per se were getting attacked

10:06

violently uh by the father of her

10:09

children uh who was involved in a rat

10:11

beef that I would be coming out publicly

10:13

uh to support him in that beef after

10:15

what he allegedly did to my sister as I

10:17

get to the close of this video I would

10:19

like to mention uh that there are some

10:22

signs uh around and out there that maybe

10:25

this whole thing is drawing to a close

10:28

we recently had TD punch hopping on

10:30

Twitter to say what just happened was a

10:33

good battle which I feel like is

10:34

something you could only say if you have

10:37

a knowledge that the whole thing is is

10:39

done at this point and then there's also

10:41

Drake with his most recent response the

10:44

more I digest it the more it's pretty

10:46

clear that he's really playing defense

10:49

on this track and that's pretty much it

10:51

his delivery isn't that fiery or intense

10:54

across the track either not like in the

10:55

way that it was during the first section

10:57

of Family Matters and toward the very

11:00

last moments of the track he's just

11:01

really kind of talking his way through

11:03

it and it kind of sounds like he's uh

11:05

ready to be just checked out totally and

11:07

done with this thing so Drake May in

11:10

fact not even have the will or the

11:13

desire to engage with this any further

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even if Kendrick drops four five six

11:18

more tracks and secondly as much as the

11:20

internet has changed rat beef and uh the

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Public's perception of it over the years

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I think one thing still holds true and

11:28

that's the the main goal of the whole

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thing for there to just be a winner and

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if Drake concedes by essentially

11:34

ignoring Kendrick P this point he's

11:36

taking the L and the more this thing

11:37

focused down on Kendrick and simply

11:39

Kendrick the less Drake seemed to care

11:41

maybe due to the big body blows his

11:44

reputation was taking over and over and

11:46

over throughout this thing and also

11:48

maybe because doing this sort of thing

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mono imano uh direct with no subliminals

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toh save him or give him the benefit of

11:56

the doubt uh this is a position that

11:58

Drake has just just not comfortable in

12:00

in his music typically when it comes to

12:02

disdain he has for others uh for beef

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generally he likes to pocket that and

12:07

hide that into just you know kind of uh

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little singular quiet mentions and on

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top of it uh dude loves to paint this

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image of the entire industry being

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against him which is a narrative that's

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hard to live in when what the internet

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really wants to see is a one-on-one

12:21

boxing match let me know your thoughts

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Kendrick forever

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