Lefties losing it: Rita Panahi slams Bill Maher as a ‘delusional Democrat’

Sky News Australia
23 May 202416:41

Summary

TLDRIn this video, the host critiques left-leaning political commentator Bill Maher for his views on election denial and climate change. The discussion includes a debate on Hillary Clinton's stance on the 2016 election, the validity of the Russian collusion narrative, and the selective enforcement of laws regarding classified documents. The show also covers the impact of climate change on black communities, the ESG movement's influence on the energy sector, and the challenges of relying on renewable energy sources. Guest Alex Epstein argues for a balanced approach to energy policy, emphasizing the need for wealth generation and reliable energy sources to address climate concerns effectively.

Takeaways

  • 📚 Bill Maher is criticized for either being ignorant or dishonest about election denial, with the claim that he misunderstands or misrepresents Hillary Clinton's stance on the 2016 election.
  • 🗳️ Hillary Clinton is accused of being the original election denier, having allegedly claimed that Trump's presidency was illegitimate and promoting the Russian collusion narrative.
  • 🤔 The discussion suggests that there is a debate over whether climate change disproportionately affects black people more than others, with some arguing that it's a class issue rather than a racial one.
  • 🌡️ The assistant secretary for health in the Biden Administration is said to have lectured on how global warming is affecting black communities, which some argue is an overemphasis on race.
  • 💡 Alex Epstein, author of 'Fossil Future', argues that climate change policies impact poor people more than any specific racial group, and that wealth creation is key to dealing with climate issues.
  • 📉 Shareholders at Shell rejected a climate change resolution, suggesting a pushback against ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) initiatives that some believe are detrimental to business.
  • 🛑 The script implies that ESG movements have been harmful, particularly to the oil and gas industry, and that there is a growing recognition of their negative impacts.
  • 🚫 There is a critique of the idea that solar and wind power can provide reliable energy, with the suggestion that they are not capable of doing so without relying on fossil fuels or nuclear power.
  • 💰 The Australian government's plan to become a battery manufacturing leader is questioned, with Epstein suggesting that current technology is not sufficient to provide reliable energy storage.
  • 🛠️ The script raises concerns about the feasibility and cost of transitioning to renewable energy sources, particularly the challenges associated with mining for materials needed for renewable technologies.
  • 🌐 The reliance on China for elements needed to make batteries is highlighted as a potential issue that may not be adequately considered in renewable energy plans.

Q & A

  • What is the main point of contention between Bill Maher and the host regarding election denial?

    -The main point of contention is whether Hillary Clinton can be considered an 'election denier'. The host argues that Clinton was the original election denier for her actions and statements following the 2016 election, while Maher seems to disagree or be unaware of Clinton's actions.

  • How does the host describe Bill Maher's understanding of Hillary Clinton's stance on the 2016 election?

    -The host suggests that Bill Maher is either 'wildly ignorant or dishonest' regarding Hillary Clinton's actions after the 2016 election, implying that Maher is either misinformed or intentionally misleading about Clinton's claims of an illegitimate presidency.

  • What is the host's view on the January 6th incident at the Capitol?

    -The host dismisses the idea that the January 6th incident was an 'insurrection', instead suggesting that the individuals involved did not break windows, knock down doors, or kill police officers, and that the death of Capitol police officer Brian Sicknick was due to natural causes.

  • What does the host believe is the truth about January 6th and the Capitol incident?

    -According to the host, there was no attack on the Capitol, no windows were broken, no doors knocked down, and no police officers were killed. The host also claims that Brian Sicknick, a Capitol police officer, died of natural causes as determined by the medical examiner.

  • What is the host's opinion on Megan Kelly's ability to educate Bill Maher about election denial?

    -The host believes that Megan Kelly is 'so much smarter, better informed, and better at her job than Maher', suggesting that Kelly was successful in educating Maher about election denial.

  • What is the argument made by the host regarding the selective enforcement of the law in the case of classified documents?

    -The host argues that there is a difference in the handling of classified documents between a sitting president who has the ability to declassify documents and a US senator who does not, implying that the latter's actions would be illegal.

  • What is the host's view on the ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) movement?

    -The host views the ESG movement as 'insidious' and believes it hurts oil companies and consumers by promoting the rapid elimination of fossil fuels without considering the need for cheap and reliable energy.

  • How does the host describe the recent shareholder's decision at Shell regarding climate change?

    -The host describes the decision as a 'win for common sense', as only 18% of shareholders backed a climate change resolution, indicating a rejection of the ESG movement's influence.

  • What is the host's opinion on the feasibility of batteries providing base load power for a first-world nation like Australia?

    -The host believes that with current technology, batteries are not capable of providing the necessary base load power for a first-world nation like Australia, as they are not reliable without depending on other energy sources.

  • What does the host think about the challenges and supply chain issues related to making large-scale batteries?

    -The host suggests that the challenges and supply chain issues related to making large-scale batteries are often not given due consideration, and there is a bias that amplifies the negatives of fossil fuels while downplaying the challenges of renewable energy sources.

Outlines

00:00

😠 Political Debate on Election Denial and Media Bias

The first paragraph discusses a political debate centered around the concept of election denial, particularly focusing on Bill Maher's recent media appearances to promote his book. The speaker criticizes Maher for either being ignorant or dishonest about the topic, highlighting a conversation with Megan Kelly where she attempts to educate him on the subject. The paragraph also delves into Hillary Clinton's role as an 'original election denier,' accusing her of undermining the 2016 election's legitimacy and promoting the Russian collusion narrative. The discussion extends to the events of January 6th, with the speaker challenging Maher's portrayal of the incident and emphasizing the importance of accurate reporting and understanding of political events.

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🌍 Climate Change Impact and Energy Policy Debate

In the second paragraph, the focus shifts to climate change and its purported impact on black communities in the United States. The speaker challenges the notion that climate change disproportionately affects black people, arguing instead that economic status, not race, is the determining factor for susceptibility to climate-related health issues. The author of 'Fossil Future', Alex Epstein, is introduced to provide a counterargument, suggesting that wealth creation is the true solution to climate vulnerability. The paragraph also touches on the influence of ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) policies on the energy sector, with a shareholder rejection of a climate change resolution at Shell being highlighted as a positive sign against ESG's influence.

10:01

🔋 The Feasibility of Battery Technology for Energy Storage

The third paragraph delves into the topic of energy storage, particularly the role of batteries in supporting renewable energy sources like solar and wind. The speaker expresses skepticism about the ability of batteries to provide baseload power necessary for a developed nation like Australia. Epstein argues that current battery technology is not sufficient to handle the unreliability of solar and wind power without relying on traditional energy sources. The discussion also addresses the costs associated with nuclear energy versus renewable energy, with the speaker suggesting that there is a bias against nuclear power and an unrealistic optimism for solar and wind.

15:02

⚡ The Challenges of Scaling Renewable Energy and Battery Production

The final paragraph continues the conversation on renewable energy, emphasizing the challenges of scaling up solar and wind power, as well as battery production. The speaker points out the environmental and logistical issues related to mining for the materials needed to build batteries, highlighting the contradiction within the green movement that advocates for more mining to achieve 'green energy'. Epstein discusses the need for a realistic approach to energy production, suggesting that the current push for net-zero emissions is not considering the practical implications and costs associated with such a transition.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Election Denial

Election denial refers to the refusal to accept the results of an election, often by alleging fraud or other irregularities without substantial evidence. In the video, it is mentioned that Hillary Clinton is accused of being an 'original election denier' for her alleged claims about the legitimacy of Donald Trump's presidency, suggesting that she contributed to narratives questioning the integrity of the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

💡Russian Collusion

Russian collusion in this context refers to the unproven allegations that the Trump campaign collaborated with the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. The script implies that Hillary Clinton helped formulate and spread such conspiracies, which the speaker argues undermines democracy in the United States.

💡Insurrection

The term 'Insurrection' is used in the script to describe the events of January 6, 2021, at the U.S. Capitol. The speaker uses air quotes and a different term to suggest skepticism or disagreement with the mainstream narrative of the event being an insurrection, reflecting a contentious debate over the characterization of the incident.

💡Selective Enforcement of the Law

Selective enforcement of the law suggests that laws are applied or enforced in a biased manner, with some individuals or groups being treated differently from others. The script contrasts the treatment of two individuals regarding classified documents, implying that one was unfairly charged while another was not, due to their respective positions of power.

💡Climate Change Policy

Climate change policy refers to government actions and regulations aimed at mitigating the effects of climate change. The script discusses a claim that climate change disproportionately affects black people, which is challenged by an argument that it is poverty, not race, that is the determining factor in vulnerability to climate-related issues.

💡Global Warming

Global warming is the long-term increase in Earth's average surface temperature due primarily to human activities such as the emission of greenhouse gases. The video script uses the term to discuss its impact on different communities, with a particular focus on the claim that it affects black Americans more than others, which is contested in the conversation.

💡ESG Movement

ESG stands for Environmental, Social, and Governance, and the ESG movement refers to a trend where investors consider these factors alongside financial ones when making investment decisions. The script criticizes the ESG movement, suggesting it has led to the underperformance of oil stocks and is detrimental to the economy and energy consumers.

💡Net Zero

Net zero refers to a state where the amount of greenhouse gases emitted into the atmosphere is balanced by an equivalent amount being removed, thus having a net impact of zero. The script mentions companies claiming to aim for net zero emissions, which the speaker argues would be financially ruinous and not practically achievable.

💡Reliable Power

Reliable power refers to a consistent and dependable supply of electricity. The video script contrasts reliable power sources like fossil fuels and nuclear energy with unreliable ones such as solar and wind, which are said to require backup from more traditional power sources to ensure a steady supply.

💡Batteries

In the context of the script, batteries are discussed as a means of energy storage to support renewable energy sources like solar and wind. The speaker argues that current battery technology is insufficient to provide baseload power, which is the continuous and uninterrupted supply of electricity needed to meet the minimum demand of a power grid.

💡Supply Chain

The supply chain refers to the network of organizations, people, activities, information, and resources involved in producing and delivering a product or service. The script raises concerns about the supply chain for batteries, particularly the mining of materials needed for their production and the reliance on countries like China, which may pose geopolitical and environmental challenges.

Highlights

Bill Maher's frequent appearances suggest he is either ignorant or dishonest about election denial.

Megan Kelly attempts to educate Bill Maher on election denial, highlighting his misunderstanding.

Hillary Clinton is referred to as the original election denier for her actions post-2016 election.

Bill Maher's ignorance or dishonesty about Hillary Clinton's election denial is questioned.

Hillary Clinton's statements about the 2016 election being illegitimate are discussed.

Bill Maher's views on January 6th are criticized as paranoid fantasies.

Megan Kelly is praised for being more informed and better at her job than Bill Maher.

Selective enforcement of the law regarding classified documents is debated.

The importance of wealth in addressing climate change susceptibility is emphasized.

Shell shareholders reject a climate change resolution, indicating a shift in sentiment.

The ESG movement is criticized for its impact on oil companies and consumers.

The power of the ESG lobby is discussed, with signs of weakening influence.

The challenges and bias in producing batteries for renewable energy are highlighted.

The Australian government's strategy to become a battery manufacturer is questioned.

The need for reliable energy solutions without reliance on fossil fuels is emphasized.

The supply chain and reliance on China for battery production elements are discussed.

The negative aspects of solar and wind energy are often overlooked, says Alex Epstein.

Transcripts

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now it's time for lefties losing it

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we've been seeing a lot of Bill Mah

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lately he has a book to flog so he's

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been everywhere from the view to Gutfeld

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of course he went on Fox that's where

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the audience is but the more we see of

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him the more clear it is that this Lefty

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who is occasionally sane and Lucid is

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either wildly ignorant or dishonest

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watch as Megan Kelly educates him or

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tries to about election denial I just I

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mean you you keep saying sort of I'm

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nuts because I don't see the difference

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between the elephant and the mouse and

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I'm telling you I identify them

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differently than you do Hillary Clinton

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of course is the original election

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denier I'm sure you voted for her in 16

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well she's not an election Den she

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absolutely was the OG election denier

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she first of all she came out before the

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son had risen to concede the election to

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Trump and then spent the next four years

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saying he was illegitimate he was an

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illegitimate president she okay well

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first of all saying she didn't say he

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was an illegit she did tell me exactly

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what she said she said those exact words

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repeatedly okay yep she did she said

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those exact words bill I believe he

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knows he's an illegitimate president is

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Bill maah really that clueless about

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Hillary Clinton's election denying ways

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was ma hiding under a rock for the years

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she pushed the lie that the 2016

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election was stolen where she helped

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formulate and spread Russian collusion

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conspiracies that undermine democracy in

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the us Mar is either frightfully

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ignorant or lying there are no other

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options at this point let's remind him

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of uh some of the things Hillary has

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said I believe he knows he's an

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illegitimate president he knows he knows

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so I know that he knows that this wasn't

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on the level I don't know that we'll

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ever know everything that happened but

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clearly we know a lot and are learning

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more every day and history will probably

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sort it all out as I've been telling

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candidates who have come to see me you

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can run the best

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campaign you can even become the

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nominee and you can have the election

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stolen from

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you apparently Bill Mah missed that and

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he also missed the truth about January 6

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or as he calls it the Insurrection let's

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listen now to some of his paranoid

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fantasies on January 20th 2025 he'll

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show up at the White House whether he's

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invited or

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not and I don't think that's going to be

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good we he's going to he's going to bomb

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in if if he lost yes oh yeah bomb is a

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word I wouldn't even throw around

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lightly stop it he's not going to do

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that right like there was never an

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attack on the capital oh I hear you I

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hear you but he's not going to show up

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at the in they didn't show up at the

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capital and break windows and and knock

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down doors and kill cops and Chase and

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they didn't break Windows knock cop they

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of course did no they didn't who did

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they died of natural causes that day

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Capital police officer Brian snik the

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medical examiner has determined that he

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suffered two strokes and died of natural

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causes yeah nobody died that day cops no

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not

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true who okay who oh I don't remember

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the names they didn't there was Brian

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snic who died later after the fact Megan

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Kelly is so much smarter better informed

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and better at her job than ma it's

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frightening uh he's the best they've got

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though and the man who prides himself on

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his depth of knowledge and critic

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thinking skills kept on embarrassing

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himself here Megan schools him on the

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selective enforcement of the law that so

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Biden still classified documents and not

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be charged one actually had the ability

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to declassify documents and keep them

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because he'd been the president and one

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didn't because he should have been

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looking at documents only in a skiff

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while a sitting US senator and clearly

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he stole classified documents that he

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wasn't entitled to and never had the

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ability to declassify them

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yeah uh maybe you know more about that

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than I do I don't remember that part of

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it and I I always don't trust anything I

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hear until I vet it from the other side

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because everybody sort of has their

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one-sided view of it and narrative is

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more important than truth I know this is

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the right-wing narrative I thought I'm

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not like that bill I I care about facts

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I practice law for 10 years I want to

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get the cases right you know

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conservatives are guilty of the bigotry

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of low expectations when it comes to

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Bill I've done it too I've praised him

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and played his Clips when he's

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occasionally said something sensible

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something the right has been saying for

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years but at his core he's a delusional

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Democrat who has uh spoken of his dream

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of seeing Gavin newsum becoming

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president yeah the California governor

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that one I think fellow traveler Bill

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Burr summed up Mah nicely during their

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recent chat most of the you say is not

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smart it's just sort of obscure it's not

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obscure to certain person percentage of

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people I'm I'm not some giant eggh egghe

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head I'm just I know I know you're not

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that smart and Greg Gutfeld had the

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right idea about maah who was on his

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show earlier this week that's the most

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important thing that's going on in this

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country he didn't concede the last

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election he's not going to concede this

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election you don't know that when and

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everybody said oh you smoke too much pot

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turned out I smok just the right amount

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of pot there's no right amount so Dr

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Drew sir we you you you're really good

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at diagnosing mental illness what is

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Bill's

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[Laughter]

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[Applause]

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problem wow maybe lay off the pot bill

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that might clear up the

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TDS and let's continue with LEF is

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losing it here we have a biological man

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identifying as a woman using their

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position as the assistant secretary for

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health in the Biden Administration to

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lecture us about how global warming is

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disproportionately affecting black

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people climate change is having a

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disproportionate effect on the physical

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and mental health of black communities

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black Americans are more likely than

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white Americans to live in areas and

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housing that increase their

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susceptibility to climate related health

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issues and 65% of black Americans report

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feeling anxious about climate change's

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impact joining me now is the author of

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fossil future Alex epin Alex uh your

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response to that I would argue climate

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change policy es do disproportionately

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impact poor people not black people poor

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people whatever color they are uh is

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that how you see it because I find it

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hard to understand how global warming is

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impacting black people more than

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everybody

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else I mean the the truth is that you

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know what they're calling global warming

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so bad weather they're saying it's

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racist but it's actually classist in the

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sense of if you're poor it's hard to

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deal with bad weather that's why as the

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world has be has gotten richer we've

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become much much safer from climate we

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have a 98% decline in climate related

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disaster deaths over the last century so

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obviously obviously the solution if you

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care about susceptibility to climate is

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for everyone to get rich even within the

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United States let alone the rest of the

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world where most people are incredibly

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poor even compared to you know the the

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poorest people in the United States so

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on the one hand it's just the exact

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opposite prescription of what's needed

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it's just we need to become wealthier

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and then on top of it this person has

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the goal to say that blacks are

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suffering suffering climate related

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anxiety that's because you're

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catastrophizing climate like maybe the

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government should prescribe fossil

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future that's the solution to climate

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anxiety that is a very good prescription

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indeed uh now here's some good news this

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week's shareholders at oil giant shell

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overwhelmingly rejected a climate change

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resolution filed by Green activists

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urging it to align its reduction targets

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to the Paris climate agreement Alex only

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18% of shareholders back this proposal

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uh in March we saw uh shell weaken its

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2030 carbon reduction Target uh they

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cited strong demand for gas they're

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refocusing on more profitable operations

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like oil and gas seems to be a winful

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common sense

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Alex I think this is a good it's a good

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development and and contrast this to say

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2020 when you know we had a global

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pandemic we had lockdowns that hurt most

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the oil and gas industry particularly

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oil because oil is the basis of modern

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transportation and you had all these

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people saying I was wrong for saying

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that you know we have a fossil future

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that we actually need more oil going

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forward they're like look oil demand is

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low it's not good to invest in oil now

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why am I bringing this up in this

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context because the fact that oil stocks

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happen to be crashing because of those

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circumstances allowed a bunch of

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opportunistic ESG types to claim that

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disinvesting from oil was somehow a wise

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investment thing when in fact what

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happened is right after that oil became

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one of the best performing sectors in

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the world as demand rebounded and then

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continued to increase to record levels

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where we are now and we're still

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increasing so what's happened is all

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these do good or ESG types who were CL

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who were thinking they would get rich

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being ESG are realizing that they're

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getting poor being ESG and that if they

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have shell or BP or all these other

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virtue signaler companies who've claimed

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that they want to go Net Zero that they

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if they actually do that it's going to

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Crater their stock so I'm glad that

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people are waking up to financial

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reality and it's helping defang this

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really Insidious ESG movement because

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that not not only hurts the oil

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companies it most of all hurts the oil

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consumers which is the world's eight

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billion people who need cheap reliable

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energy

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well how powerful is the ESG mob uh the

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environmental social and governance

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Lobby uh they seem to control a great

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deal of the money Alex uh is their power

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weakening with uh the pandemic over and

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things getting back to

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normal I I it's there are signs of

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weakness but we definitely cannot let up

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uh at all I mean you're seeing more and

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more people stand up to it it used to be

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pretty lonely

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to stand up to it now there are a lot

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more people saying that it's it's bad

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and in particular the stuff I'm most

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interested in the environmental side the

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idea of rapidly eliminating fossil fuels

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that that is a global death sentence

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you're increasingly having people

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recognize that to some extent but

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unfortunately the ESG movement has

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totally poisoned so many institutions

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and taken them over and I'll just give

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an example of in the realm of AI which

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is a new huge source of demand in the

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United States and around the world a lot

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of these leading AI users like Microsoft

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and Facebook have been promoting ESG

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poison for years and that's led to the

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shutdown of reliable power plants on our

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grid this should sound familiar to

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Australians and trying to replace them

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with unreliables and now we don't have

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nearly enough electricity for AI so

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you're seeing these these institutions

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are not yet apologizing I'll think it's

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great when Microsoft and Google and

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Facebook apologize for ruining our grid

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with ESG until then I'm not complacent

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well our national science agency the CSO

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has published a report that insists the

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powering our country with nuclear energy

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is going to be far more expensive nearly

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double the cost of doing it with

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Renewables uh $16 billion and 16 years

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is what it will apparently take to build

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a large scale nuclear reactor is this

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true Alex or is this just another sign

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of the csiro being captured by the grain

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ideology I want to draw people's

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attention to a weird kind of

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schizophrenia that that you have going

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on here which you often see which is

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there's a total can't do attitude with

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fossil fuels in a particular Nuclear So

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they act like oh it has to be incredibly

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expensive even though say South Korea is

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able to do it cheaply the United States

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used to be able to do do it cheaply

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before we ruined it with bad regulations

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so they have a total can't do attitude

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with regard to nuclear but with

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unreliable solar and wind which have

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never powered any country anywhere

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without totally parasiting unreliable

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fossil fuels and nuclear they have this

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infinite unicorn fantasy can do attitude

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and so one of the fallacies here is

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they're comparing unreliable power to

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Reliable power so that's you know that's

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like comparing uh rotten oranges to

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Apples so they're just they're not

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comparisons what you need to happen is

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if you want to use solar and wind the

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so-called Renewables those companies

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should figure out how to make them

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actually Supply reliable electricity

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provide the batteries themselves then

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what they see is is just prohibitively

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expensive but they're just comparing the

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cost of unreliable to Reliable so that's

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that's intellectually

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nonserious it is intellectually

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dishonest you're absolutely right now

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prime minister Anthony albanesi has

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unveiled a $550 million strategy aimed

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at turning Australia into a world

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leading battery manufacturer this is

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another step we are told in firming up

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Renewables and supporting the Net Zero

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transition but can batteries ever

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provide that Bas load power that a first

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world nation like Australia

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needs well you know ever is a long time

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but you know with the technology we

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currently have they're they're nowhere

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near close so not even the best form of

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storage what's called pump storage tends

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to be much cheaper we just don't have

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any form of man-made storage right now

13:58

that can accommodate the unreliability

14:00

of solar and wind so what happens is you

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build these battery facilities and what

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happens is they'll say oh we have this

14:06

many megawatts of batteries and isn't

14:08

that going to be great but a megawatt of

14:10

batteries is not the same as a megawatt

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of natural gas because the megawatt of

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batteries usually lasts four hours

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maximum so if it only lasts four hours

14:20

you need a lot more than four hours

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worth to be able to handle highs and

14:24

lows of the sun and the wind over you

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know days let alone let alone weeks so

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it's just this fake it's just it's just

14:31

this fake stuff being added on to

14:34

pretend that solar and wind are being

14:36

reliable but they're not reliable unless

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they can truly be self-sufficient

14:41

without parasiting on the other stuff so

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again I say Australian government anyone

14:44

who thinks they can make it work have

14:46

somebody figure out how to make a

14:47

solution just using solar wind and

14:49

batteries see how much that cost to

14:51

provide reliable electricity with the

14:54

same reliability of coal or as coal or

14:56

natural gas or nuclear you'll be in for

14:58

a rude awakening but but go ahead and

15:00

try but don't just steal everyone's

15:01

money and restrict fossil fuels and

15:04

promise the best because there's no

15:05

evidence it'll work at

15:07

all and what about the elements that go

15:10

into making these giant batteries uh

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where they come from the supply chain

15:17

and the Reliance on China is that

15:20

something that isn't given due

15:22

consideration

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Alex well in general there's just you

15:27

know the the negatives are challenges of

15:29

of solar and wind are never given due

15:31

consideration and then the negatives or

15:33

challenges of fossil fuels are Amplified

15:35

you know 100 times and just exaggerated

15:37

beyond all proportion so there's

15:39

definitely this bias I don't think it

15:41

means fundamentally you can't produce

15:44

batteries at a much larger scale but if

15:46

you look at near term what what people

15:48

are proposing with these different net

15:50

zero plans is just a a totally

15:53

unprecedented increase in mining in a

15:56

very anti-mining global environment

15:59

particularly in the Western countries

16:01

that used to be free but now have many

16:03

many restrictions on mining and this is

16:05

a basic contradiction the green movement

16:08

which says that to achieve quote green

16:10

energy we need to mine the world more

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than we ever have which the green

16:14

movement is going to oppose and I think

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this confirms my thesis in fossil future

16:19

and people can learn more about this at

16:20

energy

16:29

and if you hate human impact you hate

16:31

energy because energy allows us to

16:32

impact the Earth to make our lives

16:35

better Alex Epstein thank you so much

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for your time this evening thanks Rita