NEW Fed Jan 6 Probe UNLEASHED: Terry Schilling Breaks It Down
Summary
TLDRThe transcript discusses the January 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol and the subsequent investigations. It highlights a report from House Republicans that contradicts the House January 6 select committee's findings, suggesting that exculpatory evidence was withheld. The conversation focuses on the allegations against former President Donald Trump, including the claim that he requested National Guard troops and the disputed account of Trump attempting to redirect his Secret Service detail. The interviewee, Terry Schilling, criticizes the select committee as biased and predicts that these events may contribute to Trump's potential re-election.
Takeaways
- ๐ Former President Donald Trump is facing charges related to the January 6th Capitol attack.
- ๐ A new House Republican report offers a different narrative of the January 6th events compared to the House January 6 select committee's findings.
- ๐ฌ Anthony Orado, Trump's Deputy Chief of Staff, testified that Trump requested 10,000 National Guard troops for January 6, which was withheld from the January 6 committee.
- ๐ซ The report suggests that the January 6 committee had a predetermined narrative and excluded exculpatory evidence.
- ๐ฃ๏ธ Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony about Trump attempting to grab the steering wheel of the vehicle, which was widely reported, was contradicted by the driver's testimony, according to the House Republicans' report.
- ๐ค The report raises questions about the legitimacy of the January 6 committee, calling it a 'sham' and accusing it of pushing a biased narrative.
- ๐๏ธ The committee's composition is criticized for lacking true bipartisan representation, with only two Republicans who were already critical of Trump.
- ๐ The report's findings could potentially impact the public's perception and the jury's decision in any legal proceedings against Trump.
- ๐ฅ The media's role in reporting the January 6th events is called into question, with allegations of spreading unverified information.
- ๐๏ธ The Supreme Court's decision to not allow Trump to be removed from ballots in Maine is seen as a check on the Democrats' attempts to use the insurrection claims against him.
Q & A
What new perspective do House Republicans offer regarding the January 6th attack?
-House Republicans released a report presenting new evidence, including testimony from Donald Trump's Deputy Chief of Staff, suggesting that Trump had requested 10,000 National Guard troops for January 6th to prevent clashes, challenging the narrative of the January 6th Select Committee.
How does the House Republicans' report contradict the January 6th Select Committee's findings?
-The report claims to reveal suppressed or destroyed evidence, such as Trump's request for National Guard troops, which was omitted from the January 6th Select Committee's findings, suggesting a biased narrative against Trump.
What was the controversy surrounding Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony according to the report?
-Cassidy Hutchinson testified that Trump tried to grab the steering wheel of the presidential vehicle, but the report cites witness testimony contradicting her claims, indicating that Trump never did such an act.
What concerns does Terry Schilling raise about the January 6th Select Committee?
-Schilling criticizes the committee for having a predetermined narrative, excluding exculpatory evidence, and not being inclusive of Trump supporters, calling it a 'sham committee.'
How might the findings from the House Republicans' report impact the special counsel's case against Trump?
-The discrepancies and new evidence presented by the report could undermine the special counsel's case by casting doubt on the accuracy and completeness of the information used against Trump.
Why does Terry Schilling suggest the committee's actions could lead to Trump's reelection?
-Schilling believes that the perceived bias and unjust treatment of Trump by the committee and its failure to present a balanced narrative will garner sympathy and support for Trump, potentially leading to his reelection.
What are the implications of excluding minority (opposition) representation from the January 6th Committee according to the discussion?
-The exclusion leads to a lack of a minority report, undermining the committee's credibility and suggesting a politically motivated investigation rather than a fair and balanced inquiry.
What concerns are raised about the treatment of individuals who refused to comply with the committee's subpoenas?
-The script mentions individuals like Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon facing legal consequences for non-compliance, raising concerns about the committee's perceived political bias and the fairness of its proceedings.
How does the Manhattan DA's suggested delay in the hush money payments case affect Trump's campaign?
-Terry Schilling believes that the delay, despite arising from the DA's last-minute evidence disclosure, will not affect Trump's campaign obligations or his role as the presumptive nominee.
What does the script suggest about the broader political impact of the January 6th committee's actions and findings?
-The discussion implies that the committee's perceived biases and the way it handled evidence and testimony could deepen political polarization, affect electoral outcomes, and potentially lead to civil unrest.
Outlines
๐ January 6th Committee Report Controversy
The discussion revolves around the January 6th Committee's report and its alleged bias. It is suggested that the committee had a predetermined narrative, excluding exculpatory evidence such as testimony from Anthony Orado that President Trump requested 10,000 National Guard troops for January 6th. The conversation highlights the exclusion of evidence that contradicts the committee's narrative, the media's role in spreading certain narratives, and the potential impact on Special Counsel Jack Smith's case against the former president. Additionally, concerns are raised about the committee's composition and the long-term effects of such a politically charged event on American politics.
๐จ Non-Compliance with Subpoenas and Political Bias
This segment discusses the refusal of individuals like Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon to comply with subpoenas, citing political bias in the committee's makeup. It is noted that historically, minority representatives have been included in such committees to provide a balanced perspective, which was not the case here. The conversation touches on the implications of these actions, including the potential for more civil unrest and the impact on the upcoming election cycle. The speaker expresses concern that these actions could lead to the re-election of Donald Trump due to the perceived politicization of the process.
๐ฐ Legal Battles and Campaigning Challenges
The final paragraph focuses on the legal challenges faced by the former president, including the Manhattan DA's suggestion to delay the hush money payments case related to Stormy Daniels. The potential impact of these legal battles on the former president's campaign obligations is discussed, with the guest expressing confidence that Trump will continue his campaign efforts despite the allegations and legal issues. The conversation concludes with a reflection on the broader implications of the current political climate and the potential for further polarization and unrest.
Mindmap
Keywords
๐กJanuary 6th attack
๐กDonald Trump
๐กNational Guard
๐กHouse Republicans
๐กCassidy Hutchinson
๐กExculpatory evidence
๐กSham committee
๐กNancy Pelosi
๐กSpecial Counsel
๐กRe-election
๐กTrump's legal battles
Highlights
Former President Donald Trump faces charges related to the January 6th attack on the Capitol.
A new report from House Republicans presents a different narrative of the January 6th events compared to the House January 6 select committee's findings.
Deputy Chief of Staff Anthony Orado W. testified that Trump and Mark Meadows requested 10,000 National Guard troops for January 6, which was withheld from the January 6 committee.
The January 6 committee is accused of having a predetermined narrative and excluding exculpatory evidence.
Barry Lauder's report indicates that multiple pieces of evidence were suppressed, destroyed, or excluded from the January 6 select committee's report.
Media stories claimed Trump never requested the National Guard, which was contradicted by the 10,000 National Guard story.
Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony about Trump trying to grab the wheel of the Beast was contradicted by the driver's testimony, which was withheld.
The January 6 committee has been criticized as a sham committee with a predetermined narrative, pushing lies and withholding contradictory evidence.
The committee's composition, with no minority representation and members like Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger, has been questioned for its political bias.
The lack of a Minority Report in the January 6 committee's findings is highlighted as unusual and problematic.
People are going to prison over the January 6 events, which is concerning given the perceived bias of the committee.
The political divide and polarization in America is emphasized, with the Supreme Court's decision on Trump's ballot access being noted.
The Manhattan DA has suggested a 30-day delay to the hush money payments case against Trump, which is connected to alleged falsification of business records.
Trump's legal battles, including the hush money payments case, are discussed in relation to his campaign obligations.
The impact of the January 6th events and the subsequent investigations on the 2024 election and Trump's potential re-election are debated.
The interviewee suggests that the allegations against Trump are part of a larger effort to disrupt his influence and protect the status quo.
The role of the media and the perception of the American public in relation to the January 6th events and the political response are discussed.
The interview concludes with a reflection on the state of American politics and the potential long-term effects of the January 6th investigations.
Transcripts
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former president Donald Trump is facing
charges here in Washington DC related to
the January 6th attack on the capital
but a new report from House Republicans
paints a different picture of that day
compared to the findings of the house
January 6 select committee joining us
now is Terry Schilling president of the
American principles project welcome
Terry thanks so much for having me Terry
can you help us break down that report a
little bit what's in it and why is this
important well the big thing that's
coming out here is uh it it is
apparently clear that Donald Trump's
Deputy Chief of Staff uh Anthony orado
uh W gave witness and testimony that
Donald Trump and Mark mennow had
requested uh 10,000 National Guard
troops uh for January 6 they were
concerned about a clash between the prot
Trump uh protesters and the anti-trump
protesters and they were they were
wanting more security all of that was
withheld from the January 6 committee
UHC and it was basically exculpatory
evidence uh which it really paints a
picture that this whole thing this whole
January 6 committee had a predetermined
narrative that they wanted to uphold and
they got rid of anything uh that uh
contrast or contradicted what they were
trying to find here yeah there were
report from uh Barry lauder's office
points out that there are multiple
pieces of evidence that were either
suppressed or destroyed or excluded from
the January 6 select committee's report
and I think that 10,000 National Guard
story is important because about a month
ago when we had all of these media
stories going around they were claiming
that Trump never requested the National
Guard and that that was a fake narrative
and it turns out that that wasn't true
now another important allegation here is
that one of the January 6 committee star
Witnesses Cassidy Hutchinson testified
in front of this big media circus about
how Trump had tried to grab the wheel of
the Beast to redirect his Secret Service
agents to the capital on that day what
did the louder milk report from House
Republicans find out about her
claims well Amber had found that the
driver uh that she implicated in that
story had actually given witness
testimony that uh to the contrary that
Donald Trump never did any of that he
directly contradicted her claims and
that was withheld but Cassie
Hutchinson's testimony was included in
the report Amber I think that the real
thing that bothers me about this is that
this was a sham committee right it was
it had a predetermined uh narrative from
the beginning they got rid of anyone
that was actually supportive of Donald
Trump that's not how how you operate if
you want to build a consensus if you
want to build a consensus which is
something you need in order to try and
convict and prove to the American people
that the former president is guilty of
insurrection uh then you need consensus
this is a bare minimum and instead what
we got was a propaganda committee uh
that was pushing lies and withholding
evidence that contradicted their
predetermined narrative so this is this
is a a blight on on America it's a BL on
Congress and and everything that's going
on here I mean the driver also commented
you know to keep it 100 here the driver
also commented that the former president
clearly wanted to go to the capital um
reports like this and the findings do
you think they will have any effect on
special Council Jack Smith's case
against the former president since there
are as you you noted a few discrepancies
here I think one of the most strong ones
um is probably the Cassidy Hutchinson
extra story tale that literally went
around through you know a game of
telephone one two three she was a third
person who heard it who really knows
where the facts lie there um do you
think that any of this is going to
affect the special council's
case uh it's hard to say but it
definitely doesn't help the special
council's case this only hurts it and it
show it's going to make uh the jury and
and the people making the decision about
uh where to come down with Trump on this
it's going to make them a lot more
skeptical the claims against him you if
you want to do this right if you really
want to get president Trump um on this
stuff you have to go above and beyond to
be accurate this is a former president
United States who's being accused of
very serious crimes and essentially
treason um and it turns out that the mor
treeson sacks are the people that are
putting together the Sham committee and
trying to falsely convict a a former
sitting president I think it's
interesting too that the committee
apparently waited until months after
Cassidy Hutchinson gave that public
testimony to even interview any of the
potentially corroborating Witnesses
including the driver there were two
other apparently firsthand Witnesses who
they didn't even bother to talk to in
regards to that claim um you talked
about this as a sham committee and I
think it's important for viewers to
understand that the reason why you
saying that is because Nancy Pelosi of
course had control over which
Republicans were allowed to sit on the
committee Republicans were not allowed
to pick their own people to be on there
so the only Republicans who were on it
were Liz Cheney and Adam kininger who
had already made their minds up that
Trump had committed Insurrection or
engaged in an Insurrection now we see
that there are multiple people who
refuse to comply with subpoenas
including Peter Navaro and Steve Bannon
Peter Navaro is now reporting to prison
because he said he was not going to
testify in front of the committee
because of the fact that the makeup was
so politically
biased no that that's exactly right and
you know there's a few interesting
things here which is first and foremost
this is incredibly rare I don't think
this has actually been done in American
history where uh there are no uh
minority Representatives or from the
opposition included on the committee
there's typically when they have these
types of committees to really dig deep
they produce a Minority Report so they
have a majority report that the majority
of the committee agrees to and it's
usually partisan and then they release a
Minority Report well this this this
isn't able to happen now and Republicans
have to go outside of the system outside
of the community to produce their own
findings um but the the the real
important reason why this is important
is because people are going to prison
people are going to prison over a sham
committee that was never open and and
it's also interesting that Nancy Pelosi
is all of a sudden allied with the
chenies who would have predicted
that what do you think will this that
the effect will be long term um
obviously this is a highly U politicized
event all of us saw what happened on
January 6 we've we've heard from the
officers themselves we've heard from
those who were barricaded within their
within their Senate offices and other
Chambers um what do you think is going
to be the aftermath you know we're still
having this conversation now we're years
out of January 6 obviously in the midst
of an election cycle uh what is your
take well unfortunately for Democrats
and unfortunately for America I think
it's going to end up leading to the
reelection of Donald Trump right I think
that the real problem here is that
Democrats are following the same
hysterical Playbook that they tried to
follow in 2016 where they're trying to
cast Donald Trump as this Nazi ass
figure this hitlerian uh American figure
and the American people see through it
the American people are not stupid they
understand BS and they can sort through
it now you can fool some of the people
some of the time but you can't fool all
the people all the time and so I think
that you know this next election really
is going to determine the future and
what this you know what happens from
here I think Donald Trump will get
reelected because of all of the
fraudulent claims that are being made
against him but if he isn't if he isn't
reelected then I'm even more worried
because you're going to see a lot more
of these sham committees and a lot more
innocent people uh being thrown into
jail
uh for purely partisan uh reasons
through their weaponized federal
government Trump has 91 felony charges
across four different jurisdictions um
he is in court case after court case
meanwhile trying to fund raise and
campaign at the same time turning to
another one of those legal battles let's
talk about New York for a bit um The
Manhattan DA has now suggested a 30-day
delay to the hush money payments case
against the former president remember
that was the case that alleged Trump's
team falsify business records connected
to hush money payment made to adult film
actress stormmy Daniels that trial is
scheduled to get underway later this
month on March 25th but the da suggested
he delay after the former president
legal team complained that evidence had
been withheld until the last minute
Terry will this change affect the former
president's campaign obligations as the
presumptive
nominee no I don't think so I think he's
going to carry on and I think that's
exactly the right thing I think listen
if Donald Trump was not a threat to the
swamp if he wasn't disruptive to the
system they wouldn't be making up all
these allegations I I think you know
it's important to note that allegations
are one thing and and and these are all
Democrats right when you when you start
to get Republicans pressing charges
against him and and trying to take him
to court and convict him well then we'll
have something else but right now this
is just and I think the American people
are seeing through this this is what
happens when you try to disrupt the
swamp there's a very powerful system in
place all the billionaires all the major
corporations Hollywood Academia
everyone's lined up on the Progressive
side of this um and you have to ask
yourself like what is going on here that
the billionaires in the rich class are
are now teaming up with Democrats
there's something arai here and and it
stinks well one quick final question for
you Terry we're almost out of time but
going back to this January 6 question um
I think it's also important to point out
that this exculpatory evidence is really
key to the fact that Donald Trump was
just Democrats just tried to remove him
from ballots in places like col in Maine
thankfully the Supreme Court said they
couldn't do that but they tried to
remove him from these ballots by
claiming that he had incited this
Insurrection it turns out now they
didn't even have all the evidence
available to make a proper determination
there thank goodness that the Supreme
Court came down on the right side of
this right I mean we haven't seen
Democrats try to kick a republican off
of the ballot for president since the
1860s right I think this really speaks
to how divided and fractured and
polarized America is right now um but
thank goodness that the Supreme Court
was a voice of calm and reason in this
situation otherwise we'd have quite the
civil unrest on our hands right now
Terry Schilling from American principal
project thanks again for joining
Rising thanks so much for having me
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