Trump's Inflated DJT Stock Is a "Bubble," Truth Social Is a Failure, Experts Say: A Closer Look

Late Night with Seth Meyers
28 Mar 202412:25

Summary

TLDRفي هذا العرض، يسلط الضوء على الارتفاع المفاجئ في صافي ثروة دونالد ترامب على الرغم من الفشل الظاهري لشركته الاجتماعية التي خسرت ملايين الدولارات وفقدت عددًا كبيرًا من المستخدمين. يستعرض العرض كيف أن الارتفاع غير المتوقع في قيمة الأسهم، الذي يعتبره الخبراء 'فقاعة غير مستدامة'، قد ضاعف ثروة ترامب في يوم واحد. يتناول العرض أيضًا محاولات ترامب المستميتة لجمع الأموال من خلال بيع الكتب المقدسة ومقارنات غريبة بين Truth Social ومشاريع فاشلة أخرى، مشيرًا إلى الفصل بين قيمة الشركة السوقية وواقع أعمالها الفعلي.

Takeaways

  • 📈 تصاعدت قيمت شركة ترامب في السوق بعد أن انضمت إلى NASDAQ، مع زخم في القيمة المالية للشركة.
  • 💰 تكبدت قيمة ترامب بشكل غير متوقع بعد تصاعدت التكاليف القانونية والحاجة إلى النقد.
  • 📊 أشارت الخبراء إلى أن القيمة ال名义ية للشركة تتفاوت وت远离现实.
  • 🚗 تعرضت الأخبار عن رويدي غيولياني الناجم من الbankruptcy والخساره المالي.
  • 🤣 تم التركيز على التحديات القانونية التي يواجهها ترامب وتأثيرها على مسيرته المالية.
  • 📱 تصاعدت قيمة شركة ترامب الإعلامية التي تشمل Truth Social، رغم انفجار المستخدمين والخسائر المالية.
  • 🔎 تم التركيز على التوقعات السلبية للشركة والتوقعات تشير إلى انفجار القيمة ال名义ية في المستقبل.
  • 🎭 تعرضت تفاعلات من الإعلام الإعلامي حول استخدام Truth Social وقيمته ال市場ية.
  • 🏛 تعرضت الأخبار عن ال公司经营不善 وخسائرها المالية والتحديات التشغيلية.
  • 🚨 تصاعدت التوقعات السلبية للشركة وتأثيرها على القيمة الفعلية للشركة.
  • 🤔 تم التركيز على التحديات التي يواجهها ترامب وكيف يمكن أن يؤثر ذلك على النجاح المستقبلي للشركة.

Q & A

  • Donald Trump's financial situation has recently changed, how?

    -Donald Trump's net worth has unexpectedly increased due to his failed social-media company going public, despite being in desperate need of cash and drowning in legal bills.

  • What is the current state of Donald Trump's legal expenses?

    -Donald Trump has spent more than $100 million on legal fees, as reported by The New York Times.

  • How has Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump's former lawyer, handled his financial situation?

    -Rudy Giuliani, who has declared bankruptcy with debts totaling $500 million, posted a video of himself driving a car with the caption 'Driving with the top down'.

  • What is the performance of Trump's media company, which includes Truth Social, in the stock market?

    -Trump's media company, including Truth Social, soared in its first day of trading on NASDAQ, increasing by 56% at one point during trading to $78 a share before closing at $58.

  • What is the current valuation of Donald Trump's stake in the new Trump Media company?

    -Donald Trump owns 60% of the new Trump Media company, a stake that is worth $4.6 billion on paper at the current stock price.

  • How has the public response to Truth Social been?

    -Truth Social has been an abject failure, losing millions of dollars, hemorrhaging users, and being considered extremely overvalued by experts.

  • What are the monthly active users for Truth Social in the United States?

    -Truth Social has only about 494,000 active monthly mobile users in the United States.

  • How does the revenue of Truth Social compare to other social media platforms?

    -Truth Social generated only $3 million in revenue in the first nine months of last year, while losing $49 million, making it significantly smaller than other platforms like Twitter and Instagram's Threads.

  • What is the financial outlook for Trump Media according to the script?

    -The financial outlook for Trump Media is grim, with the company having generated only $3.4 million in revenue and losing $49 million in the first nine months of last year.

  • What is the potential risk for investors in Trump's media company?

    -The potential risk for investors is high as the company's valuation is based mainly on Trump's brand, and ongoing legal proceedings could negatively impact the company's value.

  • What is the comparison made in the script between Trump's current business and his past business ventures?

    -The script compares Trump's current business, which is primarily an online platform, to his past businesses, like Trump Hotels & Casino, which had physical assets like real buildings but still filed for bankruptcy.

Outlines

00:00

📈 Trump's Net Worth Soars Despite Legal Troubles and Failed Business

This paragraph discusses how Donald Trump's net worth unexpectedly increased due to the public listing of his struggling social media company, despite his dire financial situation and legal issues. It highlights the company's overvaluation and the unsustainable bubble, which experts believe is detached from the actual business performance. The narrative also touches on Trump's desperation for funds, evidenced by his various revenue-raising attempts, and the significant legal fees he has incurred. The paragraph humorously critiques the situation, suggesting the sudden increase in Trump's net worth is more related to his brand and the actions of his supporters than the actual value of his company.

05:02

📉 Truth Social's Lackluster Performance and Overvalued Stock

The second paragraph delves into the specifics of Truth Social's performance, emphasizing its failure to gain traction despite aggressive promotion by Trump. It points out the platform's minimal revenue and significant losses, as well as its shrinking user base. The summary also includes a comparison with other social media platforms and businesses to illustrate the scale of Truth Social's shortcomings. Additionally, the paragraph highlights the skepticism around the company's valuation, likening it to a meme stock and predicting a potential downward correction in its stock price. The narrative further satirizes Fox News host Jesse Watters' inability to prove his use of the platform, questioning the authenticity of its user base and value.

10:03

🏛️ Trump's Business Failures and the Uncertain Future of Truth Social

This paragraph focuses on the history of Trump's business failures, including his previous bankruptcy with Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts. It contrasts the tangible assets of his past businesses with the intangible and flawed nature of Truth Social, which is ridiculed for its spelling errors and lack of success. The summary underscores the precarious situation of Trump's enterprise, hinging on his legal troubles and the unpredictability of his brand's influence on the stock market. It concludes with a reference to the company's acknowledgment of potential bankruptcy in its SEC filings, hinting at the possibility of a bubble burst and the ephemeral nature of the current stock valuation.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡net worth

Net worth refers to the value of an individual's or company's assets minus its liabilities. In the context of the video, it is used to describe the increase in Donald Trump's financial value after his media company went public, despite his legal and financial troubles.

💡Truth Social

Truth Social is a social media platform launched by Donald Trump. It is described in the video as a 'dumb Twitter ripoff' primarily used by Trump supporters. The platform's valuation and user base are used to critique its financial success and sustainability.

💡NASDAQ

NASDAQ, short for the National Association of Securities Dealers Automated Quotations, is an American stock exchange. It is where Trump's media company went public, and its stock price surge is a central point of discussion in the video, highlighting the disconnect between the stock's performance and the company's actual financial health.

💡overvalued

When a stock or company is considered overvalued, it means that its current market price is higher than what its financials would suggest is reasonable. In the video, this term is used to describe the stock valuation of Trump's media company, indicating that experts believe the stock's high price does not reflect the company's true value or potential.

💡bankruptcy

Bankruptcy is a legal process that allows a person or business to eliminate or repay their debts under the protection of the federal bankruptcy court. The video references past bankruptcies associated with Donald Trump and warns that his current ventures, like Truth Social, could face a similar fate.

💡legal bills

Legal bills refer to the costs incurred for legal services, such as hiring lawyers or going to court. In the context of the video, it highlights the financial strain on Donald Trump due to the significant amount of money he has spent on legal fees, indicating his desperate need for cash.

💡revenue

Revenue is the income that a business receives from its operations, such as from selling goods or services. In the video, Trump's media company's revenue is compared to its losses to emphasize its lack of financial success.

💡valuation

Valuation is the estimation of the economic value of an asset or a company, often based on financial metrics and market conditions. The video discusses the high valuation of Trump's media company and how it may not align with the company's actual performance.

💡bubble

In financial terms, a bubble refers to a situation where the price of an asset greatly exceeds its intrinsic value, based on fundamental analysis. It is often followed by a rapid decline in price, known as a crash. The video suggests that the stock price surge of Trump's media company is a bubble that will eventually burst.

💡active users

Active users refer to the number of unique individuals who engage with a platform or service over a specified period. In the context of the video, the declining number of active users on Truth Social is used to argue that the platform is shrinking and not as successful as its valuation suggests.

💡federal government's definition of a small business

The federal government's definition of a small business typically refers to companies that meet certain criteria, such as revenue limits. In the video, it is used to highlight the irony that Trump's media company, despite its high valuation, generates revenue that qualifies it as a small business according to this definition.

Highlights

Donald Trump's net worth unexpectedly increased after his social-media company went public.

The company's valuation is considered by experts as an 'unsustainable bubble' detached from the business's reality.

Trump is in urgent need of cash, having spent over $100 million on legal fees, as reported by 'The New York Times'.

Rudy Giuliani, Trump's former lawyer, has filed for bankruptcy with $500 million in debts.

Trump's media company, which includes Truth Social, saw its stock surge 56% during its first day of trading on NASDAQ.

Trump owns 60% of the Trump Media company, a stake currently valued at $4.6 billion on paper.

Trump's net worth rose by $4 billion in a single day, despite his social-media company being considered otherwise worthless.

Truth Social is described as a 'dumb Twitter ripoff' primarily used by MAGA supporters and has been a significant failure.

Truth Social has suffered huge losses and is losing users, with only 494,000 active monthly mobile users in the US.

The company generated only $3.4 million in revenue in the first nine months of last year, with a loss of $49 million.

Trump's business model and its financial success are entirely dependent on his personal brand.

The company's valuation is acknowledged to be overvalued, and there are warnings that it could be a fleeting phenomenon.

Trump's previous business ventures have included four bankruptcies, raising concerns about the stability of his current enterprises.

The stock's debut value of nearly $7 billion is primarily driven by a buying spree from Trump supporters.

The company's SEC filings admit that Trump's ongoing legal issues could negatively impact the company's value.

Experts predict that the stock price will eventually drop significantly if the company exhausts the funds from the merger.

Trump once had a publicly traded company with the same ticker symbol that filed for bankruptcy in 2004.

The paper value of Trump's stock is far removed from the actual performance of his business, indicating a potential bubble.

Transcripts

00:02

-Just as he's drowning in legal bills

00:03

and in desperate need of cash,

00:04

Donald Trump's net worth has unexpectedly soared

00:07

after his failed social-media company went public

00:10

in what experts are calling an "unsustainable bubble

00:12

that is divorced from the reality of the business."

00:14

For more on this, it's time for "A Closer Look."

00:16

[ Cheers and applause ]

00:20

I don't need to tell you,

00:22

Donald Trump needs cash, and he needs it ASAP.

00:24

The guy's been hawking Bibles on TV

00:26

like he's trying to raise money to go to Jesus camp.

00:31

"The New York Times" reported this week

00:32

that he's spent more than $100 million on legal fees.

00:35

Now, I don't know what Trump's current lawyers

00:37

are doing with all that money,

00:39

but I can guess what his former lawyers would do with it,

00:41

based on what they're doing without it.

00:43

Rudy Giuliani, who recently declared bankruptcy

00:46

and declared debts totaling $500 million,

00:49

posted a video of himself this week behind the wheel

00:53

of what I can only assume is either a convertible

00:55

or a car missing its roof,

00:58

under the caption, "Driving with the top down."

01:03

Alright, I think I'm out on this "Thelma and Louise" reboot.

01:07

Knowing Rudy, he would probably miss the cliff.

01:09

By the way,

01:11

driving with the top down sounds like a euphemism

01:13

you'd use about Rudy Giuliani.

01:15

"I dunno.

01:16

I don't know if you should hire that guy.

01:18

Let's just say he's, uh, driving with the top down."

01:21

[ Laughter ]

01:23

Also, who's holding the camera in this video?

01:25

Who in their right mind would get in a car with the guy

01:29

who mistook the Four Seasons landscaping company

01:32

for a luxury hotel?

01:34

He probably thinks these road signs are suggestions.

01:37

[As Giuliani] Uh-oh! You know what that means.

01:38

We gotta drive crazy now!

01:41

Don't worry. The next sign says

01:42

"Only Rudys allowed."

01:44

[ Laughter ]

01:46

[Normal voice] So, Trump desperately needs money.

01:48

Now, Trump has spent his entire life wriggling his way

01:51

out of seemingly impossible jams.

01:53

But surely, surely,

01:55

there's no escape hatch for him this time, right?

01:58

-More breaking news tonight involving Donald Trump.

02:00

His media company, which of course includes Truth Social,

02:03

soaring in its first day of trading on NASDAQ,

02:06

surging 56% at one point during trading to $78 a share

02:09

before closing at $58.

02:11

-Trump now owns 60% of the new Trump Media company,

02:14

or roughly $78 million a share --

02:17

a stake that is, on paper at this hour,

02:20

worth $4.6 billion.

02:24

-The higher the stock goes,

02:25

the higher that Donald Trump's net worth is.

02:28

At yesterday's close,

02:29

Trump's net worth, according to Bloomberg,

02:31

a little over $7 billion.

02:32

It went up by $4 billion on Monday alone.

02:36

-That's right, Trump doubled his net worth in one day

02:39

after his otherwise worthless

02:40

social-media company went public.

02:42

This brings us to a segment called...

02:48

[ Laughing ]

02:50

I mean, I don't...

02:52

[ Laughing ] I don't understand.

02:55

So he doubles his net worth out of nowhere...

02:57

[ Laughing ]

02:59

...based on a worthless business, just in time to...

03:02

[ Laughing ]

03:04

...pay off the hundreds of millions he owes in fines

03:07

from lying about the value of --

03:08

I just don't -- I don't get it!

03:10

[ Laughter ]

03:12

[ Laughing maniacally ]

03:23

[ Scream-laughing ]

03:28

This has been "Seth Tries to Laugh About a Thing

03:30

That is Clearly Making Him Crazy."

03:33

Now, you might be asking yourself,

03:37

"Donald Trump has a media and technology company?"

03:39

And the answer is no, he doesn't.

03:40

What he has is a dumb Twitter ripoff

03:43

for MAGA trolls called Truth Social,

03:45

where he posts insane, typo-riddled, all-caps screeds.

03:48

You may have seen one of his posts

03:50

when someone else screen-grabs it and then puts it on Twitter.

03:52

Truth Social has been an abject failure,

03:55

has lost millions of dollars, and is hemorrhaging users.

03:59

-Experts warn the stock is extremely overvalued,

04:03

saying its staggering multi-billion dollar valuation

04:06

is likely a flash in the pan.

04:08

Truth Social has been racking up huge losses,

04:11

and as of last month,

04:13

only had some 494,000 active monthly mobile users.

04:18

-Truth Social is tiny.

04:20

We're talking about less than half a million

04:22

monthly active users on iOS and Android

04:24

in the United States.

04:26

For comparison, X, the company formerly known as Twitter,

04:29

it has 75 million users.

04:32

Even Instagram's Threads is 10 times bigger than Truth Social.

04:35

Not only that, but Truth Social is shrinking.

04:38

Monthly active users are down

04:40

by 51% year-over-year in February.

04:43

-Trump Media generated just $3.4 million of revenue

04:46

through the first nine months of last year, according to filings.

04:49

The company lost $49 million over that time period.

04:53

-The only way this business could be any more of a failure

04:55

is if, every time you opened an account,

04:57

you got a free Zune, a bottle of Crystal Pepsi,

04:59

a Blockbuster card, a Motorola flip phone

05:01

that came preloaded with a Myspace account,

05:03

and a round-trip

05:04

next to the door on Alaska Airlines.

05:06

So, just to recap, not only is Truth Social

05:09

a tiny business that generated only $3 million in revenue

05:12

while losing $49 million, it's also shrinking,

05:16

with unique visitors down 20% and active users down 51%.

05:20

Its revenues are so small -- and this is true --

05:23

it actually qualifies for the federal government's

05:25

definition of a small business,

05:27

which has revenue ranging from $1 million to over $40 million.

05:30

By comparison, here's how much money

05:32

Squatty Potty,

05:33

the plastic step stool you put your feet on

05:35

while you go to the bathroom,

05:37

made after it went on "Shark Tank."

05:39

-Squatty Potty has partnered with over 20 major retailers.

05:42

We're also in 20 countries all over the world.

05:44

We've now done $175 million in sales

05:48

since "Shark Tank."

05:49

-$175 million!

05:50

For something that helps you [bleep]

05:52

Compared to Truth Social,

05:53

which I guarantee is something

05:55

Trump does while he [bleep]

05:57

Trump's stock market windfall has nothing to do

05:59

with the reality of his business,

06:00

and that's obvious to everyone.

06:02

It's just a buying spree fueled by Trump supporters

06:04

and traders capitalizing on

06:06

the enthusiasm of Trump supporters.

06:08

I'm willing to bet most of the people investing

06:10

in this company have never even used Truth Social.

06:12

Here's an exchange from Fox News,

06:15

in which host Jesse Watters claimed he used the site

06:17

but wouldn't prove it.

06:19

-In the last nine months of 2023,

06:21

Truth Social generated $3.4 million,

06:23

and it lost $49 million in that span.

06:27

The valuation, which is $11 billion.

06:29

Compared to Reddit --

06:31

Right? Something that we've all been on, right? --

06:33

their valuation was $6.4 billion.

06:36

So, you think that a site

06:37

that has less than half a million users...

06:39

I mean, this is what -- These are facts.

06:42

-All these valuations are ridiculous, Jessica.

06:44

-Okay, then he's the Game-- It's like GameStop, right?

06:46

It's a meme, no? -Okay, you know what?

06:48

-You know how you look at this? -Well, it's actually not,

06:49

because I'm using it. -You look at this --

06:50

-Oh, you're on Truth Social? -I'm on Truth Social.

06:52

-Show it to me. -I'm not having you

06:54

look at my phone. -Show me your phone.

06:56

-[ Laughter ] -How dare you?

06:57

-Why won't you show her your phone?!

07:01

Oh, is the only app Candy Crush,

07:03

and do you have it downloaded twice?

07:05

Seriously, Jesse, why won't you show us your phone?

07:07

Is it because you're afraid we'll see the video

07:09

you took of Rudy driving his car?

07:11

[ Laughter ]

07:14

Trump himself seems to have no idea how the business works.

07:17

For example, the special acquisition company

07:19

Trump Media merged with is listed on the NASDAQ

07:21

rather than a larger New York Stock Exchange.

07:23

But when he tried to explain why,

07:25

Trump offered a mind-boggling and nonsensical answer.

07:27

-Truth Social is doing very well.

07:30

It's hot as a pistol and doing great, and it's going public.

07:33

And the New York Stock Exchange wants to have us badly.

07:36

And I told them we can't do the New York Stock Exchange.

07:38

You're treated too badly in New York.

07:40

We don't want to do the New York Stock Exchange.

07:43

And the people at the Stock Exchange are very,

07:45

very upset about it.

07:47

The top person is -- is mortified.

07:50

Can't believe it.

07:51

He said, "I'm losing business because of New York,

07:53

because people don't want to be in New York

07:55

and they don't want to go on the New York Stock Exchange."

07:57

-Alright. A couple things.

07:58

First of all,

08:00

the top person at the New York Stock Exchange is a woman,

08:01

so that story is obviously made up,

08:03

unless Trump is claiming he had a conversation with the bull.

08:06

[As Trump] The top person at the stock exchange came up to me.

08:09

Big bull, strong bull,

08:10

huge nuts,

08:12

tears in his eyes,

08:14

pouring down to his solid bronze snout.

08:15

And he said to me, he said,

08:17

"Mr. Trump, sir, the reason I'm frozen in place

08:19

is 'cause I'm so scared to be in New York."

08:22

[Normal voice] Second, the NASDAQ is also based in New York.

08:24

Third, you don't need to literally live in New York

08:26

to list a company on either the NASDAQ

08:28

or the New York Stock Exchange.

08:30

If Swiss company Nestle wanted to trade on the NASDAQ,

08:33

the CEO wouldn't have to move from Zurich

08:35

to a studio apartment in Bushwick.

08:36

[High-pitched European accent] "But I don't have room

08:38

for all my delicious chocolate!"

08:40

[Normal voice] I'm gonna assume the CEO of Nestle is a gnome,

08:43

and if it's not, don't ruin it for me.

08:47

And yet, despite the reality of the underlying business,

08:50

the stock debuted at nearly $7 billion in value,

08:54

thanks to a buying spree from Trump supporters,

08:56

which does not mean it'll stay there.

08:58

The stock's value is based entirely on one thing,

09:01

which is Trump's brand, and in its own SEC filings,

09:04

the company admitted Trump could tank the value.

09:07

They wrote that an adverse outcome

09:08

in one or more of the ongoing legal proceedings

09:11

in which President Trump is involved

09:12

could negatively impact the company,

09:14

and that a number of companies

09:15

that were associated with President Trump

09:17

have filed for bankruptcy.

09:18

There can be no assurances

09:20

that this will not also become bankrupt.

09:22

Uhh, sell, sell! Sell, sell, sell, sell!

09:25

Sell, sell, sell, sell, sell!

09:28

Nah, that was -- that was for a different thing.

09:30

[ Laughter ]

09:32

I thought this was foolproof!

09:34

Jesse Waters uses it!

09:35

[ Laughter ]

09:37

One expert told CNN that the stock price is clearly a bubble.

09:40

"I'm reasonably confident the stock price will eventually drop

09:43

to $2 a share, and could go even below that

09:45

if the company blows through the money it got from the merger."

09:47

Oh man, $2. If that happens, Trump's gonna be...

09:50

-Hot as a pistol.

09:51

-In fact,

09:53

that's basically already happened to Trump.

09:54

Trump once had a publicly traded company

09:56

with the exact same ticker symbol, DJT.

09:58

The company went public in 1995,

10:00

and then this happened in 2004.

10:03

-Trump Hotels & Casino files for bankruptcy.

10:06

-His Trump Hotels & Casino empire have filed

10:10

for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

10:12

The filings list $1.3 billion in debt.

10:15

-And that was when he had actual stuff, like real buildings.

10:18

Now all he has is a website

10:20

where he misspells words, like "Buden" and "grest,"

10:22

a real thing he did this week on Truth Social.

10:26

No other successful company does that.

10:27

I've never logged on to Amazon and noticed

10:29

they accidentally spelled their name with an extra "O."

10:32

[ Laughter ]

10:33

The paper value of Trump's stock

10:35

is wildly divorced from the reality

10:37

of the underlying business, which is an abject failure.

10:39

There's a good chance

10:41

that eventually the bubble will burst.

10:42

It all hinges on Trump,

10:44

a guy whose businesses have filed for bankruptcy

10:45

four times and who's in so much legal trouble

10:48

his house was raided by feds

10:49

looking for classified documents and yelling...

10:51

-Show me your phone!

10:52

-This has been "A Closer Look."

10:55

[ Cheers and applause ]

10:59

Hey, I hope you enjoyed "A Closer Look,"

11:01

and if you didn't, why are you still watching?

11:04

[ Laughter ]

11:05

Why would you stay for this part?

11:07

Anyway, did you know that we also have something on our show

11:10

called "Corrections"?

11:11

We tape it right after the audience leaves on Thursday,

11:14

and right after our cameraman, Buck,

11:16

does a whole tank of nitrous.

11:17

[ Laughter ]

11:24

It's full of inside jokes like that

11:26

that you couldn't possibly get...

11:28

[ Laughter ]

11:29

...unless you go all the way back to the beginning.

11:32

That's right.

11:33

I'm not telling you to watch "Corrections" starting today.

11:36

I'm telling you to go back and watch from episode one.

11:39

If you miss even one, the whole thing is [bleep]

11:42

[ Laughter ]

11:47

It's easily over 20 hours at this point.

11:51

It was nominated for an Emmy in 2021, in 2022, and never again.

11:57

[ Laughter ]

12:01

So the arrow is pointing down.

12:04

"Corrections." It posts every Friday.

12:07

Give it a look. And, oh, one more thing --

12:09

I do a podcast with my brother. [bleep] you!