Donald Trump guilty on all counts in hush money case

guys we need to go we need to go okay

okay here we go we have our verdict

Savannah here we go count one guilty

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here all guilty verdicts Savannah ler

back to you a total victory for the

prosecution here Laura the jurors

obviously bought the prosecution case in

full there was a consideration of

whether or not they they might split

their verdict or compromise in some way

that is not the case it's a total

rejection of the de uh defendant's case

Donald Trump's case and we're starting

to show you some of the the scene

outside the courthouse we could actually

hear it

as you were reading that verdict and and

just as you're digesting it and I know

you're keeping your eye on the courtroom

as well what do you make of this

verdict Savannah it's a resounding

victory for this prosecution in a case

that they pitched as something far

greater than about hush money the way

they tried to cast this case was about

the subversion of democracy and today

the jury agreed with him Savannah the

former president has tried to cast this

as a political prosecution a political

hip butt job by a Democratic elected da

by a judge that was a bias against him

but these 12 jurors these 12 New Yorkers

have come to a different conclusion an

independent conclusion that the former

president of the United States is guilty

a 34 felony accounts you can hear the

crowd here there's a lot of trump

supporters out here that you can hear

are very worked up as I was reading the

verdict I could hear the crowd emotion

growing behind me I'm only a couple

yards away from the area that you can

see on your screens right there sort of

the the First Amendment area if you will

it's just a stone sow away from the

Press area it's been growing as the day

went on it's growing after they heard

that this verdict was coming in a lot of

emotions running very high in this city

right now again this is the presumptive

GOP nominee in the middle of an election

year for things that he did that the

prosecution said he did to try to

corrupt the last election a just

remarkable scene playing out right here

in lower manhatt I want to read we're

getting some color from the uh from the

courtroom um Tom wter saying Trump is

looking at each juror as they are pulled

craning his head at times to look at all

the jurors we're still waiting for kind

of a read on what the reaction has been

the former president of course has been

behind closed doors in a holding room uh

throughout the the trial frankly but

certainly waiting uh unable to leave the

courthouse and waiting for the verdict

so we're going to get a little more

information Dasha burns are you still uh

with in the crowd there what's her

name hey ler can you hear me I can hear

you go

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ahead ler if you can hear me there's a

lot of passion in this park right now

the former president has alleged a

couple of times that it because of the

police presence here right the

protesters demonstrators weren't able to

come they absolutely can and this crowd

is growing here I've been talking to

people who are happy about this verdict

people who are devastated about this

verdict you just saw this man uh with a

passionate we here I also just met this

gentleman what's your name Sir Jeffrey

Jeffrey um Jeffrey what is your reaction

as we're all just taking this in right

now well we're watching the legal system

work the way it's supposed to work in a

democracy three equal branches of

government no one is above the law uh he

was indicted by a jury of his peers this

was not political this was not Joe Biden

despite the alt-right rhetoric it was a

grand jury indictment and now a jury

conviction of his peers and this is the

the legal system working and uh this is

this is how America is supposed to work

and I feel very happy for America I feel

very happy for democracy because this is

how it's supposed to work Jeffrey thank

you so much I appreciate it Lester

Savannah back to you H I would expect

we're going to hear a lot of that a

characterization of this as a fair trial

as a a fair Judgment of the former

president yeah not from the former

president himself of course as he has

worked for months now to cast this as a

political persecution against him and I

think it's worth taking a beat here

right and and recognizing that whether

you like this verdict or not this is an

historic moment this is the former

president of the United States and the

current presumptive Republican nominee

in a razor close race now coming up in

November that has been convicted on

these 34 counts in a court of law and

there's going to be a lot of discussion

about the politics I want to get to

Laura Jared on a a pretty key thing that

I'm sure a lot of our viewers are

wondering will he have to serve any jail

time what is the potential for jail time

and what is the the timing of any

appeal it's a great question Savannah

and it's something that I have purposely

uh tried not to talk with you about very

much during this trial because he was

entitled to a presumption of innocence

and so it seemed premature that's a

different situation now that he has been

convicted of 34 felony counts these are

low-level felonies he does not have any

criminal history which means he hasn't

been convicted before and so the judge

will be the one who will determine his

sentence in this case he faces anywhere

from just probation to up to four years

in prison now the fact that he was

convicted on all 34 felony counts

actually functionally doesn't make any

difference because they were all the

same so it would be as if he was

convicted on one for all purposes in

other words they're not stacked it's not

four time 34 it's just four Max given

what he's facing here again for those

low-level felonies the judge will be the

one to sentence him he will get sort of

recommendations from both sides about an

adequate and appropriate sentence would

be he's going to hear from the probation

department all of this guys is going to

take months and months this sentence is

not going to just happen overnight the

judge actually making it very clear into

the jury that their job was not to

consider the sentence at all that had

come up in closing arguments the lead

attorney for the president had tried to

argue don't put this man in prison and

the judge interrupted and said no no no

no disregard that that's my job that's

not your job so the judge will be the

one who will bring everybody in in

several weeks to discuss sentencing a

plan for sentencing and then we'll see

where he goes with this I think one

thing to keep in mind here is that this

is a person who not only is the former

president but the current presumptive

GOP nominee and again it just it's hard

to really understate and underscore I

think it's it's necessary how unusual

this is this is not any other criminal

defendant as much as people have said

that he's not just any other criminal

defendant and the judge is going to have

a really tough situation here in sort of

balancing all the competing factors

making sure he's paying attention to the

case law making sure he's paying

attention to obviously to any past

president that applies to these types of

felonies in this type of situation but

this again will take weeks and weeks and

months and of course he's entitled to an

appeal this is not the end of the road

for the former president there is plenty

on this record to appeal there are

plenty of legal arguments it's always

hard to challenge a jury verdict but

there are plenty of tricky complicated

legal arguments in this case that the

former president commerciall and his

faor

in terms of doing that appeal and

typically in this kind of a case the

you're going to hear the former

president say he gets to stay out of

prison while that appeal goes on so it's

not as if he would be behind bars or in

custody while that appeal is going on

Laura has the judge made many

accommodations acknowledging that this a

is a former president and and B is a

presumptive nominee for his

party yes in in one big way Lester and

the biggest way is that he had 10

separate violations of a gag order He

was ordered not to attack Witnesses and

the judge found him in contemp of Court

10 different times I I say that because

any other defendant would have been in a

heap of trouble for that and I'm not

trying to Discount the fine that he

faced for that but but any other

defendant would have faced jail time for

that and the judge went on the record

many times saying please don't do this I

don't want to put you in prison but I

may have to if you continue to violate

the gag order now we haven't heard much

about the gag order but that gag order

is going to be in place while this case

continues on uh at least through

sentencing and then we'll see where it

goes with that but he's as of this

moment still under that gag order last

La a couple notes from the courtroom

while we were talking not surprisingly

as is customary the defense has already

made a motion for AC quiddle arguing

that the jury could must have relied on

Michael Cohen's testimony solely which

was in violation of the jury

instructions that motion already denied

by the judge that's the scene outside as

the crowd grows uh outside the

courthouse I to turn to hie Jackson here

hie you just said it very

starkly Donald Trump convicted felon

candidate for office of the presidency

of the United States what has been so

interesting is The X Factor is no one

really knows how this will play whether

it hurts him in the upcoming presidental

election or whether it helps him because

aspects of this have certainly helped

him in the primary race that's right it

has always been a question mark as to

how this would affect him in the general

election we have seen some polling

including some new numbers out today

suggesting that about two-thirds of

Americans say even if he were to be

convicted as we now know he has been it

wouldn't change their vote they would

still vote the same way that said

anywhere from 10 to about 25% of

independent suggest that it may make

them less likely to vote for the former

president still Savannah a hypothetical

is very different from the reality that

we now face let me let me point

something out here because people may

have this question can Donald Trump

still run for president even though he's

been convicted he sure can there is

nothing in the Constitution that

prohibits or precludes him from this

unless the Republican Party were to for

example uh come up and say we don't want

you as our nominee anymore let me tell

you why that's not going to happen

because we are already hearing from the

Speaker of the House Mike Johnson the

top Republican of course in the House of

Representatives calling this essentially

a shameful day in American history

describing what he sees as the

weaponization of our justice system

remember this is somebody who showed up

at Court while Donald Trump was in trial

and we just the judge has just announced

a a sentencing date let's go back to

Laura for that what are you

hearing straight yeah guys it's

interesting this came up right away and

the prosecution made a suggestion about

sentencing and the defense attorney made

a suggestion asking for a sentencing in

mid to late July pointing out that the

former president faces other charges in

other jurisdictions remember this is

just one of four different criminal

cases perhaps the only one that will

reach a conclusion before election day

and the former president's lawyer

pointing to that as a reason to sort of

put off sentencing for a little while

and the judge announcing sentencing will

be on July 11th guys July 11th at 10:00

a.m. the former president will face his

sentencing so again as I mentioned

before the people the defense are now

going to put in motions and briefs about

what they think the appropriate

sentencing will do and then or what an

appropriate sentence would accomplish

and it's interesting uh they're not

they're not really discussing any of the

conditions of release quite yes we're

going to I'm going to wait for more

information about that before I into

that guys but for right now July 11th is

sentencing and his bail continues Laura

so he's out of court he he he'll be free

on bail while pending senten I think we

just got our first glimpse of Mr Trump

from behind the glass or he he darted

back behind but um uh Eric Trump is here

this is a again the camera that we have

been seeing every day the arrival and

departure and and remarks uh from former

president Trump and uh we believe he is

uh in this group here and uh we would

guess but we don't know for sure whether

they'll address the cameras here he

comes Mr Trump what do you to say to the

American

people Mr Trump

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jail this was a disgrace this was a

rigged trial by a conflicted judge who

was

corrupt it's a rig trial a disgrace

they wouldn't give us a venue change we

were at 5% or

6% in this District in this area this

was a rigged disgraceful trial and the

real verdict is going to be November 5th

by the people and they know what

happened here and everybody knows what

happened here you have a Sor respect da

and the whole thing we didn't do a thing

wrong I'm a very innocent

man and it's okay I'm fighting for our

country I'm fighting for our

constitution our whole country is being

rigged right now this was done by the

Biden

Administration in order to wound or hurt

an opponent a political opponent and I

think it's just a disgrace and we'll

keep fighting we'll fight till the end

and we'll win because our country's gone

to hell we don't have the same country

anymore we have a divided mess we're

nation in Decline serious decline

millions and millions of people pouring

into our country right now from prisons

and from mental institutions terrorists

and they're taking over our country we

have a country that's in big trouble but

this was a rigged decision right from

day one with a conflicted judge who

should have never been allowed to try

this case never and we will fight for

our constitution this is long from over

thank you very much why should go for

taking no questions the former president

now about to leave the courthouse his

remarks very similar to what we have

heard during other appearances at the

courthouse and frankly during

appearances at some of the rallies he's

been able to fit in around say though

the demeanor grim and angry uh and and

clearly the weight of this is upon him

and he said something so interesting hie

he said the real verdict will come

November 5th and to a certain extent he

is right because for those who were

thinking that there might be some legal

resolution that would affect whether or

not Donald Trump will ever see the IAL

office again this case is likely not it

as you just mentioned you can be a

convicted felon and run for president

and you can be a convicted felon and

serve as president so the real verdict

in terms of the politics is November 5th

he also said I just want to say point of

fact that this was a a Biden

Administration uh hit job on him this is

a state prosecution the da here Alvin

brag is certainly no fan of Mr Trump so

you can't say there's no politics in it

but this is not a federal Biden

Administration prosecution and in fact

President Biden has gone to um notable

lengths to distance himself from

commenting or reacting to much of the

day-to-day about the trial or about

these specifics on the legal issues here

you know you you point out and that

caught my ear too that the real verdict

is in November because that is going to

be former president Trump's rallying cry

for the months that we have until this

election takes place because he sees it

as an effective way to rally people

around him here um it is notable here

that he is coming out I think it's

interesting that it was a fairly short

statement this is a listen having

covered him in the white house for many

years he understands the power of a

television camera upon him and how to

react in front of that television camera

he didn't go on for 25 minutes and he

frankly could have in this instance I

just want to note one other thing too on

this sentencing date Savannah as we talk

about the politics piece it is 4 days

before the start of the Republican

convention When Donald Trump is expected

to officially take the nomination for

the Republican party and it is also

almost certainly going to be right in

the middle of an announcement of his

vice presidential pick he has suggested

he would do that in early July probably

right before the convention what a

collision of the campaign and the legal

problems that he faces well let me ask

Danny a question on that because let's

just say the judge did give him jail

time on July 11th would he be remanded

right then and there to the state prison

and what does that mean in terms of the

the convention and the campaign well

that it first of all the issue of prison

is an isue that the secret service has

been very quiet about how they would

handle actually incarcerating a former

president and a presidential candidate

and I think that will factor into the

judge's decision I think in all

likelihood you're not looking at a

sentence of imprisonment we may have

been over this but it's classy felony

nonviolent age of the offender uh no

guns no drugs not likely to happen here

in most jurisdictions for example in

federal you get a Turnin date you can

you ask for a Turnin date it actually

helps you with your sentence uh here in

New York it's uncertain whether or not

the judge would remand him right away

but the odds of him being uh imprisoned

on this class E felony which is the

lowest level felony for a non-violent

first-time offender of his age very

unlikely judge Maran certainly knows

that and has seemed to want to bend over

backwards to say I'm not treating this

defendant any differently although Laura

Jarrett says his violations of the gag

order would have landed probably any

typical defendant in much more hot water

yes and something else to consider too

that his sentence will now actually

affect particularly with his Federal

cases his two Federal criminal cases it

will now affect his criminal history

category so sentencing in federal court

and I'm jumping the gun assuming that

there may be a conviction in his Federal

cases uh is a function of the gravity of

the offense and your criminal history

category now he may have a criminal

history but real quickly for those who

are who are just tuning in here he has

been found guilty now in this Manhattan

this New York State case there are three

other cases pending one is a state case

in Georgia two are federal cases one

regarding efforts to subvert the January

uh the the the election in 2020 and

January 6 the other having to do with

holding on to classified documents but

generally speaking it is not expected

that any of those cases will proceed to

trial before election day and more than

that there's a strong probability that

if any of the two Federal cases are

still pending when he's inaugurated they

will disappear either he will appoint an

attorney general who is favor favorable

to him that attorney general will

dismiss the cases and barring that he

may attempt uh a self- pardon which may

or may not work we simply don't know if

Biden wins they continue but he's a

private citizen and we'll see where that

leads exactly right just a quick legal

point he is not a convicted felon until

he sentenced is that technically yes uh

technically once he is sentenced he will

be a Fel he is technically a felon now

but the typically the end of the case

the dist the trial court end of the case

is upon the sentence then you file your

notice of appeal and then you are

considered a felon during the pendency

of that appeal there's some

jurisdictions were strangely

Massachusetts is one while your case is

on appeal uh a very famous Aaron

Hernandez the wide receiver for the

Patriots died while his case was on

appeal and under Massachusetts law that

resulted in him not having a criminal

history that is the exception that is

not the norm as we talk about the other

legal issues that the former president

faces it may be worth getting a gut

check on the timing and the timeline

here for those three cases Savannah that

you've laid out the next one that we're

watching the most closely is that

federal election interference case

because we are waiting for that critical

decision from the Supreme Court at some

point probably by the end of next month

by the end of June before their term

ends uh when they will decide on the

former president's claim of immunity in

that case there's the Florida federal

case on the classified documents that

were taken to Mara Lago after the former

president's time in the White House

they're going through a whole bunch of

pre-trial issues on that one the next

hearing is Late July it really doesn't

look like that one is close to beginning

at this point uh as it is sort of

working through the system here and then

there's that state case in Georgia The

Fulton County election interference case

the next Hearing in August is on the

former president's appeal regarding the

prosecutor in that case fonnie Willis

and whether she should be allowed to

continue to prosecute the claims against

him so the timeline is stretching right

I mean this is the case that I think

people thought if it came would be

resolved prior to the election and

that's exactly what we're seeing here

let's bring in someone who worked for Mr

Trump's White House former White House

Deputy press secretary Hogan gy Hogan

thank you for being with us give me your

initial thoughts well um someone I

worked with for a long time actually on

the first impeachment was a man named

Alan dtz who you know very well and uh

he said one of the things he was most

concerned about in all of these matters

with Donald Trump was the venue Donald

Trump alluded to it in his comments

there you hit on some of them where he

pointed out the real verdict is going to

be on November 5th couldn't get a fair

trial here the venue was a problem he

also said this is far from over uh I

think that's very poignant from from the

former president because he understands

just what is at stake here and I know

Savannah for example you used to be a

reporter there at court TV I think

you're even an attorney as I as I recall

and and for the life of me I I can't

imagine any other case where you would

allow a defendant to stand trial for a

month but no one would tell you what you

were accused of until the last part of

the closing arguments the whole thing on

its face in my opinion is a complete and

total joke now what the left has gotten

in this verdict is exactly what they

wanted yes they wanted to bleed him dry

financially yes they wanted to to keep

him off the campaign Trail and they

wanted to be able to call him a

convicted felon this is pure purely

political and you're going to see that

when Joe Biden himself is going to

address this from the White House

elevating this and showing some of the

rampant politics around this uh these

proceedings well Hogan just a point of

of of Correction there of course the

former president knows very well what

the charges are against him they're laid

out in a 34C count indictment but I

think what you're referring to which is