Meet the Press full broadcast — March 10
Summary
TLDRThe transcript highlights the political landscape as the 2024 presidential campaign kicks off, with President Biden emphasizing democracy and age concerns, while Trump awaits endorsement. It discusses the Biden campaign's fundraising success post-State of the Union and his strategy to engage with voters across key states. The potential impact of a third-party candidate, the importance of the Georgia elections, and the ongoing conflict in the Middle East are also significant topics. Additionally, the conversation touches on the challenges faced by both Biden and Trump in appealing to independent and moderate voters, as well as the importance of the Black vote in the election.
Takeaways
- 🗣️ President Biden's re-election campaign raised $10 million within 24 hours of his State of the Union address, indicating a strong showing of support from his base.
- 🎉 Biden's visit to Georgia was met with enthusiasm as he continues to build his campaign infrastructure and focus on key battleground states.
- 🥊 The upcoming election is shaping up to be a combative affair, with both Biden and Trump expected to take on each other's policies and records vigorously.
- 💬 Trump's endorsement of Viktor Orban, the Hungarian Prime Minister, has raised concerns about the type of leadership Trump aspires to in a potential second term.
- 🤝 Senator Raphael Warnock of Georgia emphasized the importance of the Georgia electorate in the upcoming elections and expressed confidence in Biden's prospects.
- 📢 The Biden campaign is leaning into its early cash advantage against Trump, launching a new ad that directly addresses Biden's age while contrasting his record with Trump's.
- 🤔 The potential for a third-party candidate to act as a spoiler in the election remains a topic of discussion, with the impact on the final outcome still uncertain.
- 🌍 The panel discussion highlighted the importance of reaching out to independent and moderate voters, as well as addressing key issues that resonate with these groups.
- 🔊 The conversation around the war in the Middle East and the U.S.'s role in providing humanitarian aid to Gaza was a significant point of discussion, with differing views on the best approach.
- 🚨 Concerns about the potential politicization of U.S. intelligence briefings for candidates, especially in light of Trump's handling of classified documents, were raised.
- 📈 The debate over TikTok's national security implications and whether it should be banned in the U.S. is ongoing, with lawmakers considering legislation to address privacy and security concerns.
Q & A
What was the main focus of President Biden's campaign kickoff this Sunday?
-The main focus of President Biden's campaign kickoff was to make his case for a second term, addressing concerns over his age and threats to democracy.
How did former President Trump respond to the kickoff of Biden's campaign?
-Former President Trump became the presumptive GOP nominee after Nikki Haley dropped out but held off endorsing. He also criticized Biden, suggesting that everything Biden touches turns to failure.
What was the significance of November 5th according to Trump?
-According to Trump, November 5th was going to go down as the single most important day in the history of the country, although the context or event he was referring to is not specified in the transcript.
What was the Biden campaign's fundraising success following the State of the Union address?
-The Biden campaign successfully raised $10 million in the 24 hours following his State of the Union address, marking a record haul for his campaign.
How did President Biden address the issue of his age in the new ad launched by his team?
-In the ad, President Biden acknowledged that he is not a young guy but emphasized that he understands how to get things done for the American people, contrasting his record with Trump's.
What was Senator Raphael Warnock's response to Trump's criticism of Biden?
-Senator Raphael Warnock defended Biden by stating that he is not surprised by Trump's comments and emphasized that Biden is focused on what the election means for the American people, unlike Trump who is focused on himself.
What was the reaction of the panel to the potential of a third-party candidate acting as a spoiler in the upcoming election?
-The panel did not provide a direct reaction to the potential of a third-party candidate as a spoiler in the election. However, they discussed the possibility of such a scenario and its potential impact on the election results.
What was the significance of the dueling events in Georgia involving Biden and Trump?
-The dueling events in Georgia highlighted the intensity and competitiveness of the upcoming presidential campaign, as both candidates aimed to sway voters in a key battleground state.
What was Senator Lindsey Graham's stance on providing aid to Ukraine?
-Senator Lindsey Graham supported the idea of providing aid to Ukraine but suggested that it should be in the form of a loan, emphasizing the need for Ukraine to pay back if they can, given the U.S.'s $34 trillion debt.
How did Congressman Adam Schiff respond to the term 'rigged' being used by Congresswoman Katie Porter?
-Congressman Adam Schiff expressed concern over the use of the term 'rigged', stating that it is a loaded term associated with fraud and false claims, and he noted that Democrats quickly disavowed such language, emphasizing the legitimacy of the election.
What was the panel's discussion on the impact of President Biden's support for Israel on the election?
-The panel discussed the potential impact of President Biden's full-throated support for Israel on the election, with some expressing concern that it could overshadow other races and cost seats up and down the ballot.
Outlines
🗣️ Biden's Combative Stance and Trump's Response
The paragraph discusses President Biden's assertive stance as he campaigns for a second term, addressing concerns about his age and threats to democracy. It contrasts this with Donald Trump's becoming the presumptive GOP nominee and his reluctance to endorse other candidates. The narrative also touches on the potential for a third-party candidate to influence the election and the upcoming debates between Biden and Trump.
🤝 Bipartisan Support and Political Strategies
This paragraph highlights the guests appearing on the show, including Democratic Senator Raphael Warnock of Georgia and Republican Senator Lindsay Graham of South Carolina, along with their insights into the political landscape. It delves into the importance of Georgia in the election, the potential impact of a unity ticket, and the senators' views on the presidential candidates' approaches to the election.
🕊️ Addressing the Crisis in the Middle East
The focus of this paragraph is on the ongoing conflict in the Middle East, particularly the situation in Gaza. It discusses President Biden's announcement about building a port for humanitarian aid and the criticism from Doctors Without Borders. The conversation includes Senator Warnock's call for a ceasefire and his views on the moral implications of the conflict.
📝 Legal and Political Developments in Georgia
This segment covers the legal and political developments in Georgia, including the potential removal of Fani Willis from Trump's interference case and the implications of her relationship with the lead prosecutor. The discussion also touches on the fairness of the trial and the importance of the judicial process.
🌎 International Relations and Aid Strategies
The paragraph addresses international relations, particularly the aid to Ukraine and the debate over providing loans versus grants. It includes Senator Graham's support for loans and his discussion with President Trump about the aid's structure. The conversation also briefly touches on the influence of former President Trump on the Senate and the need for the United States to consider its debt when providing aid.
📢 Schiff's Victory and the California Senate Race
This section discusses Congressman Adam Schiff's victory in the primary for the California Senate race and his response to Katie Porter's claim that the race was 'rigged.' Schiff emphasizes the legitimacy of the election and contrasts the Democratic reaction to allegations of rigged elections with the Republican party's approach.
💡 The Future of TikTok and National Security
The paragraph focuses on the debate surrounding TikTok and national security concerns. It includes discussions on the potential ban of the social media platform and Congressman Schiff's perspective on the need to protect American data from China while also considering the implications of banning a popular platform.
🗣️ The State of the Union Response Tradition
This segment reflects on the tradition of providing a response to the State of the Union address, dating back to 1966. It highlights the importance of offering the public an alternative viewpoint and the role of the response in strengthening the American political system.
🌟 The Biden Campaign's Fundraising and Strategy
The paragraph discusses the Biden campaign's fundraising efforts following the State of the Union address and the strategic approach to engaging with voters. It touches on the importance of motivating young people to vote and the balance between showing combativeness and presenting a future vision for America.
🤔 The Changing Political Landscape
This section explores the changing political landscape, particularly the increase in Black adults identifying as Republican or leaning Republican. It discusses the economic and cultural factors contributing to this shift and the impact on the upcoming election.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Campaign Kickoff
💡Presumptive GOP Nominee
💡Democracy
💡Fundraising
💡Combative
💡Endorsement
💡Debate Stage
💡Third-Party Candidate
💡Urban League
💡State of the Union Address
Highlights
President Biden's re-election campaign raised $10 million in the 24 hours following his State of the Union address, showing strong support from his base.
Biden is focusing on building his campaign infrastructure and preparing for a vigorous campaign season ahead.
Former President Trump is the presumptive GOP nominee after Nikki Haley drops out, but he has not yet endorsed her.
Trump's campaign is taking on a more combative tone, with the former president hosting controversial figures like Viktor Orban and making strong statements about his opponents.
Senator Raphael Warnock emphasizes the importance of Georgia in the upcoming election and expresses confidence in Biden's chances in the state.
Senator Lindsey Graham discusses the situation in Ukraine and the debate over providing aid in the form of loans rather than grants.
Graham also addresses the issue of border security and the role of the Remain in Mexico policy in addressing the situation.
Congressman Adam Schiff talks about his approach to the Senate race in California and the importance of not using the term 'rigged' to describe elections.
Schiff also discusses the potential impact of Biden's support for Israel on the upcoming elections and the need to motivate young voters.
The panelists discuss the challenges Biden and Trump face in reaching out to independent and moderate voters, and the importance of the upcoming debates.
Marc Morial, President of the National Urban League, talks about the progress and challenges faced by Black Americans in the last 60 years since the Civil Rights Act.
The panelists discuss the increase in Black Americans identifying as Republican or leaning Republican and the reasons behind this shift.
The Biden campaign's strategy includes micro events to connect with voters on a personal level and show Biden's commitment to addressing their concerns.
The panelists emphasize the importance of not obsessing over early polls and the long road ahead in the campaign.
The discussion highlights the need for both Biden and Trump to reach out to all voters and the strategies they are employing to do so.
The panelists agree that the campaign is just beginning and that there is a lot of work to be done in terms of engaging with voters and addressing their concerns.
The panel concludes by reiterating the importance of the upcoming debates and the potential impact on the election outcomes.
Transcripts
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>>> THIS SUNDAY, CAMPAIGN
KICKOFF.
>> OH, YOU DON'T LIKE THAT BILL,
HUH?
>> A COMBATIVE PRESIDENT BIDEN
MAKES HIS CASE FOR A SECOND
TERM, TAKING ON CONCERNS OVER
HIS AGE AND THREATS TO
DEMOCRACY.
>> YOU CAN'T LOVE YOUR COUNTRY
ONLY WHEN YOU WIN.
>> WHILE DONALD TRUMP BECOMES
THE PRESUMPTIVE GOP NOMINEE
AFTER NIKKI HALEY DROPS OUT, BUT
HOLDS OFF ENDORSING.
>> NOVEMBER 5th IS GOING TO GO
DOWN AS THE SINGLE MOST
IMPORTANT DAY IN THE HISTORY OF
OUR COUNTRY.
>> THIS IS NOW HIS TIME FOR
CHOOSING.
>> HOW WILL TRUMP AND BIDEN
BATTLE IN THE NEXT EIGHT MONTHS?
>> EVERYTHING JOE BIDEN TOUCHES
TURNSES TO [ BLEEP ].
>> WHEN HE SAYS HE WANTS TO BE A
DICTATOR, I BELIEVE HIM.
>> WILL THEY FACE OFF ON A
DEBATE STAGE?
>> THAT'S A CHOICE THAT IS GOING
TO BE DECIDED UPON SOON AND
WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED.
>> COULD A THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE
ACT AS A SPOILER?
MY GUEST THIS MORNING DEMOCRATIC
SENATOR RAPHAEL WARNOCK OF
GEORGIA, REPUBLICAN SENATOR
LINDSAY GRAHAM OF SOUTH CAROLINA
AND DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN ADAM
SCHIFF OF CALIFORNIA NOW
COMPETING FOR A U.S. SENATE SEAT
THIS FALL.
JOINING ME FOR INSIGHT AND
ANALYSIS ARE NBC NEWS SENIOR
WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT KELLY
O'DONNELL.
POLITICO PLAYBOOK CO-AUTHOR
EUGENE DANIELS, MARC MORIAL, THE
PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL URBAN
LEAGUE AND REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST
SARA FAGAN.
WELCOME TO SUNDAY.
IT'S "MEET THE PRESS".
>> FROM NBC NEWS IN WASHINGTON,
THE LONGEST RUNNING SHOW IN
TELEVISION HISTORY.
THIS IS "MEET THE PRESS" WITH
KRISTEN WELKER.
>>> GOOD SUNDAY MORNING.
THE GENERAL ELECTION RACE FOR
THE WHITE HOUSE HAS OFFICIALLY
STARTED THIS WEEK AND ON
SATURDAY, PRESIDENT BIDEN AND
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP FACED OFF
IN BATTLEGROUND GEORGIA, A STATE
MR. BIDEN WON IN 2020 BY FEWER
THAN 12,000 VOTES.
MR. BIDEN WASTED NO TIME TAKING
AIM AT THE FORMER PRESIDENT
INCLUDING FOR HOSTING HUNGARIAN
AUTOCRAT VIKTOR ORBAN AT HIS
MAR-A-LAGO CLUB ON FRIDAY.
>> HERE'S A GUY KICKING OFF HIS
CAMPAIGN WITH MARJORIE TAYLOR
GREEN.
IT CAN TELL YOU A LOT ABOUT A
PERSON WITH WHO HE'S COMING WITH
AND YESTERDAY HE WAS HOSTING AT
HIS CLUB VIKTORORBAN WHO SAID HE
DOESN'T THINK DEMOCRACY WORKS.
WHEN HE SAYS HE WANTS TO BE A
DICTATOR, I BELIEVE HIM.
>> NEW THIS MORNING NBC NEWS IS
FIRST TO REPORT THAT BIDEN'S
RE-ELECTION EFFORT BROUGHT IN
$10 MILLION IN THE 24 HOURS
FOLLOWING HIS STATE OF THE UNION
ADDRESS, A RECORD HAUL FOR HIS
CAMPAIGN.
THE BIDEN TEAM IS LEANING INTO
ITS EARLY CASH EDGE AGAINST
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP LAUNCHING
A NEW AD THAT TAKES ON THE ISSUE
OF HIS AGE DIRECTLY WHILE
CONTRASTING HIS RECORD WITH MR.
TRUMP'S.
>> LOOK, I'M NOT A YOUNG GUY.
THAT'S NO SECRET, BUT HERE'S THE
DEAL, I UNDERSTAND HOW TO GET
THINGS DONE FOR THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE.
DONALD TRUMP BELIEVES THE JOB OF
THE PRESIDENT IS TO TAKE CARE OF
DONALD TRUMP.
I BELIEVE THE JOB OF THE
PRESIDENT IS TO FIGHT FOR YOU,
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THAT'S
WHAT I'M DOING.
>> THE AD IS THE FIRST IN A $30
MILLION BLITZ THAT WILL TARGET
KEY BATTLEGROUND STATES OVER THE
NEXT SIX WEEKS.
BIDEN'S GEORGIA VISIT FOLLOWS A
STOP IN PENNSYLVANIA ON FRIDAY.
NEXT WEEK HE'LL BARNSTORM KEY
STATES INCLUDING NEW HAMPSHIRE,
WISCONSIN AND MICHIGAN.
VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS WAS IN
ARIZONA AND NEVADA THIS WEEKEND
AND CABINET SECRETARIES ARE
HITTING THE ROAD TO SELL
PRESIDENT BIDEN'S AGENDA, AS
WELL.
60 MILES AWAY FROM PRESIDENT
BIDEN'S EVENT IN ROME, GEORGIA,
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP PAINTED A
DARK PICTURE OF AMERICA CALLING
THE PRESS CRIMINALS AND MOCKING
PRESIDENT BIDEN FOR HAVING A
STUTTER.
>> TWO NIGHTS AGO WE ALL HEARD
CROOKED JOE'S ANGRY DARK,
HATE-FILLED RANT OF A STATE OF
THE UNION ADDRESS.
WASN'T IT -- DIDN'T IT BRING US
TOGETHER -- I'M GOING TO BRING
THE COUNTRY -- TOGETHER.
I'M GOING TO BRING IT TOGETHER.
EVERYTHING JOE BIDEN TOUCHES
TURNS TO [ BLEEP ].
EVERYTHING.
>> AND JOINING ME NOW IS
DEMOCRATIC SENATOR RAPHAEL
WARNOCK ON GEORGIA WHO
CAMPAIGNED WITH THE PRESIDENT
SATURDAY IN ATLANTA.
SENATOR WARNOCK, WELCOME BACK TO
"MEET THE PRESS."
>> GOOD MORNING, HAPPY SUNDAY
MORNING TO YOU.
>> HAPPY SUNDAY MORNING TO YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING
HERE.
WELL, YOU JUST HEARD WHAT FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD TO SAY ABOUT
PRESIDENT BIDEN, AN INDICATION
THAT THIS CAMPAIGN IS ALREADY
SHAPING UP TO BE A BRUTAL ONE.
HOW SHOULD PRESIDENT BIDEN
RESPOND TO THOSE TYPES OF
ATTACKS, SENATOR?
>> WELL, SADLY, IF I WERE TO ASK
YOU ARE YOU SURPRISED, IS
ANYBODY SURPRISED BY WHAT WE
HEARD COMING OUT OF THE MOUTH OF
THE FORMER PRESIDENT?
THE ANSWER IS NO.
THIS IS WHO DONALD TRUMP IS, AND
I HAVE TO TELL YOU AS THE FATHER
OF A 5-YEAR-OLD AND A 7-YEAR-OLD
IT'S TERRIBLE WHEN YOU HAVE TO
BLEEP THE WORDS FROM A FORMER
PRESIDENT.
JOE BIDEN IS TRY, TESTED AND
TRUE.
HE'S SEEN THIS NONSENSE BEFORE.
HE SAW IT AND EXPERIENCED IT THE
OTHER NIGHT WITH THE OTHER SIDE
HECKLING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
PRESIDENT'S SPEECH, AND HE
PRESSED ON BECAUSE HE'S NOT
FOCUSED ON HIMSELF.
UNLIKE HIS CHALLENGER, HE'S NOT
FOCUSED ON WHAT THIS ELECTION
MEANS FOR HIM AS DONALD TRUMP
RUNS FROM THE JAILHOUSE.
HE'S FOCUSED ON WHAT THIS
ELECTION MEANS FOR THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE OF GEORGIA
AND HE SPOKE WITH POWER THE
OTHER NIGHT ABOUT THE FUTURE.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR HOME
STATE NOW, GEORGIA.
PRESIDENT BIDEN WANTEDON IT NARR
IN 2020 BY 4,000 VOTES.
NOW POLLS SHOW HE'S TRAILING
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ON THE
BALLOT THIS YEAR.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO DEMOCRATS
WHO SAY THEY ARE AFRAID THAT
GEORGIA IS OUT OF REACH?
>> I SAY SOLDIER ON.
AS SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD HIS NAME
ON THE BALLOT IN GEORGIA FIVE
TIMES IN THREE YEARS I KNOW A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS
TO RUN IN GEORGIA AND THE ROAD
TO THE WHITE HOUSE LEADS
STRAIGHT THROUGH GEORGIA.
HE WON BAY 12,000 VOTES OR LESS
THAN 12,000 VOTES, VOTES, BY THE
WAY, THE EX PRESIDENT TRIED TO
STEAL, BUT HE'S PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES AND GEORGIA'S
GOING TO SHOW UP IN A STRONG WAY
FOR JOE BIDEN.
>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THIS
TWIST WE LEARNEDED ABOUT THIS
WEEK, NO LABELS IS REPORTEDLY
CONSIDERING GEORGIA'S FORMER
REPUBLICAN LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR
JEFF DUNCAN TO POTENTIALLY LEAD
A UNITY TICKET.
HOW COULD THAT IMPACT THE
RESULTS OF GEORGIA?
COULD THAT MAKE IT ALL BUT
NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR JOE BIDEN
TO WIN?
>> LISTEN, IT'S STILL RELATIVELY
EARLY IN THE CAMPAIGN SEASON,
AND I THINK THAT THE MORE WE
HEAR FROM THE DONALD TRUMP THAT
WE JUST HEARD FROM A LITTLE
WHILE AGO, THE CLEARER IT'S
GOING TO BE FOR PEOPLE THAT AT
THE END OF THE DAY THIS IS A
BINARY CHOICE, AND THE QUESTION
IS DO YOU WANT THE AMERICA OF
JANUARY 5th THAT SENT ITS FIRST
BLACK SENATOR FROM GEORGIA, ITS
FIRST JEWISH SENATOR FROM
GEORGIA TO THE UNITED STATES
SENATE OR DO YOU WANT THE
AMERICA OF JANUARY 6th PUSHED
FORWARD BY A PRESIDENT WHO
CONTINUES TO ADVANCE THE BIG LIE
ABOUT THE ELECTION AND BEHIND
THAT LIE IS THE LIE THAT THIS
NEW MULTI-RACIAL DEMOCRACY DOES
NOT GET TO DETERMINE THE FUTURE
OF THE COUNTRY?
HE'S LOOKING BACKWARD.
JOE BIDEN IS LOOKING FORWARD,
AND I THINK AT THE END OF THE
DAY THE PEOPLE OF GEORGIA WILL
SEE THAT CHOICE, THAT BINARY
CHOICE VERY CLEARLY AND THEY'LL
DO THE RIGHT THING FOR JOE BIDEN
AS THEY DID FOR ME.
>> BUT SENATOR, IF NO LABELS
WERE TO RUN A UNITY TICKET, ONE
THAT INCLUDED JEFF DUNCAN, COULD
THAT NOT SPOIL THE RACE FOR JOE
BIDEN?
YOU DON'T DENY THAT, DO YOU?
>> LISTEN, I THINK THAT THE
PEOPLE OF GEORGIA ARE, AT THE
END OF THE DAY, ASKING WHO IS IN
THE FIGHT FOR THEM?
AND AS I SAT THE OTHER NIGHT AND
LISTENED TO THE PRESIDENT'S
SPEECH I'LL TELL YOU, I SAID TO
MY COLLEAGUES I DON'T KNOW IF
THAT WAS JOE BIDEN OR JOE LEWIS
BECAUSE THE MAN CAME OUT
FIGHTING AND HE NEVER LET UP AND
HE'S NOT GOING TO LET UP BETWEEN
NOW AND NOVEMBER.
I THINK THE PEOPLE OF GEORGIA
WILL RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN IT CAME
TIME TO FORGIVE THE STUDENT DEBT
OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE JUST BEEN
MIRED DEBT, YOUNG PEOPLE WHO
HAVE HAD A MORTGAGE JUST TRYING
TO DEAL WITH THEIR FUTURE, THAT
JOE BIDEN, WITH ONE HAND BEHIND
HIS BACK, WITH THE REPUBLICANS
SUING HIM DID $238 BILLION
STUDENT DEBT RELIEF AND THE
MAN'S GOT RECEIPTS AND THE
PEOPLE OF GEORGIA WILL SHOW UP
FOR HIM IN NOVEMBER.
>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS, NEITHER
PRESIDENT BIDEN OR VICE
PRESIDENT HARRIS HAS COMMITTED
TO PRESIDENT BIDEN DEBATING MR.
TRUMP.
DO YOU THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
DESERVE TO SEE THESE TWO
CANDIDATES DEBATE IN A GENERAL
ELECTION?
>> LISTEN, I THINK THE DEBATE IS
ALREADY UNDER WAY AND AGAIN,
THIS IS A BINARY CHOICE --
>> BUT SENATOR, SHOULD THEY
FORMALLY DEBATE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M ASKING,
SENATOR.
SHOULD THERE BE A FORMAL DEBATE
BETWEEN PRESIDENT BIDEN AND
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP.
>> I SUPPORT DEBATES, BUT I'M
NOT A PART OF THE PRESIDENT'S
CAMPAIGN.
I REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF
GEORGIA AND THE UNITED STATES
SENATE, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING
TO HEAR A FIERCE ARGUMENT IN THE
MONTHS AHEAD AND THE CONTRAST
COULDN'T BE CLEARER.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE WAR IN
THE MIDDLE EAST.
IN THE STATE OF THE UNION
ADDRESS PRESIDENT BIDEN
ANNOUNCED THE U.S. IS BUILDING A
PORT TO GET MORE HUMANITARIAN
AID INTO GAZA AND COULD TAKE AS
LONG AS 60 DAYS.
DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS CALLED
IT A REAL DISTRACTION FROM THE
REAL PROBLEM AND ISRAEL'S
INDISCRIMINATE AND CAMPAIGN AND
PUNISHING SIEGE.
IS SENDING MORE AID ENOUGH,
SENATOR, WHEN INNOCENT CIVILIANS
ARE BEING KILLED AND ARE DYING
EVERY DAY?
>> LISTEN, WE HAVE GOT TO FIND
OUR WAY QUICKLY TO THE PATH THAT
LEADS TO PEACE.
THAT'S YET OTHER NIGHT ON THE
FLOOR OF THE UNITED STATES
SENATE I PUSHED FOR A CEASEFIRE.
I THINK THE PRESIDENT, I KNOW
THE PRESIDENT IS WORKING HARD TO
GET TO A CEASEFIRE.
MR. NETANYAHU HAS GOT TO
RECOGNIZE THAT WE'VE ALREADY
SEEN THE DEATHS OF SOME 30,000
PALESTINIANS, MANY OF THEM
INNOCENT WOMEN, MEN AND
CHILDREN.
YOU KNOW, I THINK ABOUT THIS,
NOT JUST AS A SENATOR, AND EVEN
NOT JUST AS A PASTOR, BUT AS A
FATHER.
LAST NIGHT AS I WAS PUTTING MY
OWN CHILDREN TO BED AND DEALING
WITH MY SON AS HE WAS DEALING
WITH AN INCESSANT COUGH I
THOUGHT ABOUT PARENTS IN GAZA.
IT'S A TERRIBLE THING AS A
PARENT WHEN YOUR KID IS SICK,
AND THERE I WAS JUST DEALING
WITH A COLD.
I THOUGHT ABOUT THE FACT THAT
THERE ARE PARENTS IN GAZA RIGHT
NOW WHO ARE DEALING WITH THE
ORDINARY CHALLENGES THAT
CHILDREN DEAL WITH WHO HAVE SEEN
AMPUTATIONS OF CHILDREN WITHOUT
ANESTHESIA, THERE ARE CHILDREN
WHO ARE WOUNDED WITH NO LIVING
WEAPONS -- NO LIVING RELATIVES,
AND SO WE'VE GOT TO FIND OUR WAY
TO PEACE QUICKLY WHILE AT THE
SAME TIME TRYING TO GET
HUMANITARIAN AID IN THERE AS
QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
>> YOU TAKE ME TO MY NEXT POINT.
IN AN INTERVIEW WITH MSNBC'S
JONATHAN KAPART, PRESIDENT BIDEN
SAID HE WOULD NEVER LEAVE
ISRAEL.
DO YOU THINK THERE SHOULD BE A
RED LINE WHEN IT COMES TO
SUPPORTING ISRAEL?
>> I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT TO
CONTINUE TO LEAN ON MR.
NETANYAHU.
WE'VE GOT TO INSIST THAT THIS
CANNOT CONTINUE IN THIS WAY.
THE WAY A WAR IS CARRIED OUT IS
IMPORTANT.
>> BUT DO YOU HAVE A RED LINE,
SENATOR?
DO YOU HAVE A RED LINE?
IS THERE A RED LINE PARTICULARLY
WHEN IT COMES TO GOING INTO
RAFAH, FOR EXAMPLE?
>> I STATED THAT VERY CLEARLY
THE OTHER NIGHT ON THE FLOOR OF
THE UNITED STATES SENATE THAT I
THINK THAT TO GO INTO RAFAH, THE
HUMANITARIAN EXPERTS, THE FOLKS
WHO ARE TRYING TO GET AID IN,
THE FOLKS WHO HAVE NO POLITICAL
DOG IN THIS FIGHT HAVE SAID THAT
IF THEY GO INTO RAFAH YOU COULD
LOSE UP TO 85,000 MORE
PALESTINIANS IN SIX MONTHS, I
THINK THAT THAT IS MORALLY
UNJUSTIFIABLE AND
UNCONSCIONABLE, AND AS WE MAKE
OUR WAY TO THE HOLY SEASON OF
RAMADAN AND PASSOVER,
THEREAFTER, I HOPE PEOPLE WILL
DIG DEEP INTO THE MORAL CISTERNS
DUG BY ANCESTORS THAT THEY WILL
REACH TODAY THE HIGHEST IDEALS
AND OUR HUMANITY, SENT TO THE
CHILDREN AND FIND OUR WAY TO THE
PATH FOR PEACE.
>> SENATOR, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT
ANOTHER DEVELOPING STORY IN YOUR
STATE.
FANI WILLIS COULD BE THROWN OFF
OF DONALD TRUMP ATE'S 2020
INTERFERENCE AFTER HAVING A
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LEAD
PROSECUTOR ALTHOUGH SHE ARGUES
THERE WAS NO IMPROP RIGHTY.
DO YOU THINK THAT RELATIONSHIP
UNDERCUTS THE INTEGRITY OF THE
CASE AND SHOULD SHE STEP DOWN?
>> LISTEN, WE ARE WATCHING OUR
JUDICIAL PROCESS PLAY OUT, AND I
KNOW THAT THERE ARE FOLKS,
UNFORTUNATELY, IN THE STATE OF
GEORGIA, POLITICIANS WHO ARE
TRYING TO PUT THEIR HAND ON THE
SCALE.
I'M NOT GOING TO POUND ON, I'M
NOT GOING TO ADD TO THAT.
I WILL WATCH THIS PROCESS PLAY
OUT AND WE WILL SEE WHERE THE
CHIPS FALL, BUT AT THE END OF
THE DAY, HERE'S WHAT DONALD
TRUMP DESERVES.
HE DESERVES TO HAVE A FAIR TRIAL
BEFORE A JURY OF HIS PEERS AND
IN THIS CASE, AS VOTERS OF
GEORGIA, WE NEED TO SEE THAT
PLAY OUT.
>> AND GIVEN THAT, DO YOU THINK
THAT THE OPTICS HAVE BECOME SO
COMPLICATED AROUND THIS THAT
FANI WILLIS SHOULD STEP DOWN FOR
THE BETTER GOOD OF THE CASE THAT
YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT?
>> WELL, LISTEN, I THINK THIS
CASE IS BEING PLAYED OUT BEFORE
A JUDGE AND THE JUDGE WILL HAVE
TO BE BASED ON OPTICS AND ON THE
LAW.
WE BELIEVE NO ONE IS ABOVE THE
LAW INCLUDING DONALD TRUMP.
>> SENATOR RAPHAEL WARNOCK,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING
USES ON THIS SUNDAY, WE REALLY
APPRECIATE IT.
WHEN WE COME BACK, REPUBLICAN
SENATOR LINDSAY GRAHAM OF SOUTH CAROLINA JOI ME NEXT.
>>> WELCOME BACK.
>>> WELCOME BACK.
MORE THAN TWO YEARS INTO THE WAR
IN UKRAINE, THE DEATH TOLL AND
DESPERATION ARE GROWING AS
UKRAINE'S TROOPS ARE RATIONING
AMMUNITION WHILE CONGRESS
DEBATES WHAT TO DO NEXT $60 BILL
ONIN AID TO UKRAINE IS STALLED
ON CAPITOL HILL.
IN HIS STATE OF THE UNION
ADDRESS, PRESIDENT BIDEN PLEADED
WITH CONGRESS TO ACT.
>> IF ANYBODY IN THIS RING
THINKS PUTIN WILL STOP AT
UKRAINE, I ASSURE YOU HE WILL
NOT.
I SAY THIS TO CONGRESS, WE HAVE
TO STAND UP TO PUTIN.
SEND ME A BIPARTISAN NATIONAL
SECURITY BILL.
HISTORY IS LITERALLY WATCHING.
>> JOINING ME NOW IS REPUBLICAN
SENATOR LINDSAY GRAHAM OF SOUTH
CAROLINA.
WELCOME BACK TO "MEET THE
PRESS".
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE I.
I WANT TO START WITH ISRAEL.
I WANT TO START WITH HOW HE
RESPONSED TO MSNBC'S JONATHAN
CAPEHART ABOUT THE HOT MIKE
MOMENT WHERE HE WILL HAVE A COME
TO JESUS MOMENT WITH PRESIDENT
NETANYAHU.
>> HE'S HURTING, IN MY VIEW
BEING HE'S HURTING ISRAEL MORE
THAN HELPING ISRAEL BY MAKING
THE REST OF THE WORLD, IT'S
CONTRARY TO WHAT HE STANDS FOR
AND I THINK IT'S A BIG MISTAKE.
>> DO YOU AGREE THAT PRIME
MINISTER NETANYAHU IS HURTING
ISRAEL BY NOT DOING MORE TO
ADDRESS THE HUMANITARIAN CRISIS.
>> NO, I DON'T.
I WOULD LIKE TO HELP THE
HUMANITARIAN CRISIS, WHEN THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
TALKS ABOUT BIBI AND NOT HAMAS
WE'RE MISSING THE BOAT HERE.
WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT RED
LINES AGAINST IRAN.
ISRAEL IS NOT KILLING AMERICAN
SOLDIERS AND IRAN IS THROUGH
THEIR PROXIES.
HEIR HOLDING IRAN ACCOUNTABLE
FOR KILLING SOLDIERS AND
ATTACKING SHIPPING.
WE SHOULD BE ALL IN AND HELPING
ISRAEL.
WE SHOULD TRY TO HELP THE
HUMANITARIAN CRISIS, BUT DON'T
SAY OR DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD
EMPOWER THE ENEMY.
>> PRESIDENT BIDEN DOES SPEND A
LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT HAMAS
AND THE ISSUE HERE IS THERE NOT
MORE THAT ISRAEL CAN DO TO HELP
THE HUMANITARIAN CRISIS FOR
THEIR OWN PORT?
>> STAY TUNED IN THAT AREA.
I THINK ISRAEL WILL BE COMING UP
WITH SOME RELIEF IDEAS, BUT THE
LINE THAT STRUCK ME THE MOST IN
THE STATE OF THE UNION, HE TOLD
HAMAS IF YOUIO RELEASE THE
HOSTAGES THE WAR WILL BE OVER.
IS THE PRESIDENT SAYING IF THE
HOSTAGES ARE RELEASED THEY CAN
STAY IN POWER AND THAT ENDS THE
CONFLICT?
PRESIDENT TRUMP BELIEVES IT'S
NON-NEGOTIABLE WHEN IT COMES TO
HAMAS.
THEY HAVE TO BE DESTROYED AND
CAN'T BE IN CHARGE.
I'M CHALLENGING THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION TODAY TO CLEAR
THIS UP.
YOU CANNOT ALLOW HAMAS TO STAY
IN POWER.
YOU CAN'T ALLOW THEM TO HAVE SIX
BRIG
BRIGADES AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A
NONE-NO NEGOTIABLE POLICY WITH
HAMAS.
>> PRESIDENT BIDEN DOES STAND
BEHIND THAT.
>> AND THE WAR IS OVER IF HE
RELEASED THE HOSTAGES.
IT WILL NOT BE OVER.
>> AND THE HOSTAGE NEGOTIATION
AND THE POTENTIAL CEASEFIRE,
THOSE TALKS HAVE REPORTEDLY
STALLED.
LET'S MOVE ON TO UKRAINE.
YOU HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED AID TO
UKRAI AND IT'S CRITICAL TO
KEEP PUTIN FROM INVADING NATO
ALLIES AND NOW FORMER PRESIDENT
TRUMP SAID HE WOULD ONLY SUPPORT
IT IF IT CAME IN THE FORM OF A
LOAN AND THAT'S NOT TYPICALLY
HOW THE UNITED STATES SUPPORTS
OUR ALLIES.
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT'S THE BEST
COURSE OF ACTION RID NOW,
SENATOR?
>> WE ARE $34 TRILLION IN DEBT
AND NOBODY WANTS TO HELP UKRAINE
MORE THAN I DO, BUT PRESIDENT
TRUMP IS TRYING TO DO TWO THINGS
HERE.
HELP AN ALLY, BUT TELL THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE, PAY US BACK IF
YOU CAN.
I THINK MOST AMERICANS WOULD LIKE TO HELP UKRAINE, BUT THE
LIKE TO HELP UKRAINE, BUT THE
IDEA OF GIVING AND NEVER BEING
REPAID.
AND HE MENTIONED THIS TO ME
PLAYING GOLF, WHY NOT A LOAN?
$34 TRILLION IN DEBT YOU NEED TO
BE THINKING ABOUT THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE JUST NOT ALLIES.
SO I THINK THE LOAN IS THE WAY
TO GET THE AID TO UKRAINE.
HE WILL BE SPEAKING, PRESIDENT
TRUMP TO THE SPEAKER TOMORROW OR
TUESDAY ABOUT TURNING THE AID
INTO A LOAN AND FORGIVABLE AND
NO INTEREST AND YOU GET BACK ON
YOUR FEET, TRY TO PAY US BACK.
>> TRUMP TOLD YOU HE'S GOING TO
REACH OUT TO THE SPEAKER.
ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT THIS
SOMETHING THE WHITE HOUSE WOULD
SIGN ON TO?
>> I CAN'T IMAGINE ANY MEMBER OF
CONGRESS WOULD OBJECT TO TRY TO
GET OUR ALLIES TO PAY US BACK
WHEN WE ARE $34 TRILLION IN DEBT
IF THEY CAN.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A WAIVABLE,
NO-INTEREST LOAN, BUT THE IDEA
OF NOT PUTTING -- NOT CHANGING
WHEN YOU ARE THIS FAR IN DEBT, I
THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD WELCOME
IT.
>> LET ME ASK YOU TO RESPOND TO
SOMETHING THAT ALASKA SENATOR
LISA MURKOWSKI HAD TO SAY ABOUT
THE INFLUENCE OF FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
LET'S NOT EXIST AS A SENATE IF
WE HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION FROM
DONALD TRUMP FOR EVERYTHING WE
DO.
LET'S JUST DO OUR WORK.
IS DONALD TRUMP ULTIMATELY
CALLING THE SHOT IN THE SENATE,
SENATOR GRAHAM?
>> NO.
I MEAN, I VOTED AGAINST THINGS
THAT, YOU KNOW, HE DOESN'T LIKE.
THE POINT IS TO LISA, WOULD YOU
SUPPORT THE IDEA THAT OUR ALLY
SHOULD PAY US BACK IF THEY CAN
WHEN WE ARE $34 TRILLION IN
DEBT?
THIS IS AMERICA IN ACTION.
IT'S NOT ISOLATIONISM, BUT IT IS
CONSIDERING THE NEEDS OF THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
I HOPE TO BE GOING TO UKRAINE
SOON, AND I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO
TELL THEM THE AID IS COMING AND
IT WILL BE IN THE FORM OF A LOAN
AND PAY US BACK IF YOU CAN.
I WANT RUSSIA TO KNOW, IF YOU
THINK UKRAINE'S GOING TO BE OUT
OF THIS FIGHT YOU'RE DEAD WRONG.
>> SENATOR MITT ROMNEY SAID
UKRAINE'S ECONOMY HAS JUST BEEN
DEVASTATED, THAT THERE'S NO
POSSIBLE WAY THAT THEY'LL BE
ABLE TO PAY BACK A LOAN.
WHAT IF THEY CAN'T PAY BACK THIS
LOAN, SENATOR?
>> IT WILL BE WAIVABLE, NO
INTEREST.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE MONEY
HERE.
WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
THEY'RE SITTING ON SOME OF THE
MOST RICH MINERAL DEPOSITS IN
THE HISTORY OF EUROPE.
IF THEY CAN GET BACK ON THEIR
FEET WITH OUR HELP, SEE IF THEY
CAN PAY US BACK.
SAME WITH TAIWAN SO SENATOR
ROMNEY, WHAT'S WRONG WITH PEOPLE
WITH ASKING TO PAY US BACK IF
THEY CAN?
>> LET ME MOVE TO THE BORDER
NOW, ANOTHER AREA WHERE FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS HAD AN
INFLUENCE.
THERE WAS A DEAL THAT CAME
TOGETHER.
>> RIGHT.
>> IN THE SENATE, IT NEVER GOT
AN ACTUAL VOTE AND YOU WERE IN
FAVOR OF IT AND HERE'S WHAT YOU
SAID IN JANUARY.
>> THIS IS THE BEST CHANCE I'VE
SEEN SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE TO
HAVE TRUE BORDER SECURITY
REFORM.
TO THOSE WHO HOPE THAT PRESIDENT
TRUMP WIN, AND I HOPE HE DOES,
THAT WE WILL GET A BETTER DEAL.
YOU WON'T.
>> IN THE STATE OF THE UNION
ADDRESS, PRESIDENT BIDEN ACCUSED
TRUMP OF EFFECTIVELY PLAYING
POLITICS AND DERAILING THIS
DEAL.
IS HE RIGHT, SENATOR?
YOU REALLY SUPPORTED THIS AND
THEN TURNED AGAINST IT?
THERE WAS NO REAL PAROLE REFORM.
THE MAN WHO KILLED BLAKE WAS
PAROLED IN THE UNITED STATES AND
CAME FROM VENEZUELA.
SO PRESIDENT BIDEN IS
APOLOGIZING FOR CALLING HIM AN
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, THE ALLEGED
MURDERER AND HE WENT TO THE
FAMILY OF MISS RILEY TO
APOLOGIZE FOR THE COUNTRY WHO
ALLOWED HIM TO GET IN.
THERE RL BE BORDER SECURITY
ATTACHED TO THE LOAN IDEA.
>> A COUPLE OF THINGS, PRESIDENT
BIDEN SAID THAT THE TERM THAT IS
NOW USE SIDE UNDOCUMENTED, BUT
LET ME GET BACK ON ON.
>> WHICH REALLY PISSES ME OFF.
>> SENATOR, LET ME GET BACK TO
THIS DEAL, THOUGH, BECAUSE THE
BORDER SECURITY UNION ENDORSED
THIS BILL.
ISN'T SOMETHING BETTER THAN
NOTHING GIVEN THE CRISIS THAT
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?
>> GOOD QUESTION.
THEY ALSO ENDORSED MY IDEA, HAVE
A BREAK LESS MOMENT AT 5,000.
WHEN YOU GET TO 5,000 A DAY YOU
SHUT DOWN THE BORDER.
THE BORDER PATROL SAID 1,000 A
DAY IS A CRISIS AND 5,000 IS A
DISASTER.
THERE WILL BE A BILL.
REMAIN IN MEXICO IS THE KEY.
THE BORDER PATROL TOLD ME THAT
IF YOU GO BACK TO REMAIN IN
MEXICO 70% OF IT GOES AWAY.
I THINK THE HOUSE WILL PASS A
REMAIN IN MEXICO BILL.
>> YOU KNOW REMAIN IN MEXICO IS
DEAD ON ARRIVAL IN THE SENATE.
>> NO, IT'S NOT.
>> AT THIS CURRENT POINT IN TIME
IT DOESN'T HAVE THE VOTES IN THE
SENATE.
>> WE'LL SEE.
>> LET'S MOVE ON TO SOMETHING
THAT HAPPENED AT MAR-A-LAGO ON
FRIDAY.
DONALD TRUMP MET WITH HUNGARIAN
PRIME MINISTER VIKTOR ORBAN.
FOR OUR VIEWERS TO REMIND THEM,
HE BELIEVES LIBERAL DEMOCRACY
DIDN'T WORK, HE'S PACKED COURTS
WITH LOYALISTS AND SEIZED
CONTROL OF MEDIA OUTLETS, HE'S
FRIENDS WITH PUTIN, HE'S FRIENDS
WITH XI.
THIS IS WHAT TRUMP SAID ABOUT
ORBAN ON FRIDAY.
>> THERE'S NOBODY WHO IS BETTER,
SMATTER
SMARTER OR A BETTER LEADER THAN
VIKTOR ORBAN, THE PRIME MINISTER
OF HUNGARY AND DOES A GREAT JOB.
HE'S A NON-CONTROVERSIAL FIGURE
BECAUSE HE SAYS THIS IS THE WAY
IT'S GOING TO BE AND THAT'S THE
END OF IT, RIGHT?
HE'S THE BOSS.
>> DO YOU THINK VIKTOR ORBAN'S
LEADERSHIP IS SOMETHING THAT
TRUMP ASPIRES TO IN A SECOND
TERM?
>> THINK THE BEST WAY TO JUDGE
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S SECOND TERM IS
BY WHAT HE DID IN HIS FIRST
TERM.
RUSSIA DIDN'T INVADE ON
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S WATCH.
HAMAS DID TRY
HAMAS DIDN'T TRY TO DESTROY
ISRAEL ON HIS WATCH.
THE TALIBAN WEREN'T IN CHARGE ON
HIS WATCH.
HERE'S WHAT I I WOULD SAY, IF
YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT WORLD BEING
ON FIRE, YOU'RE RIGHT.
IF YOU THINK JOE BIDEN'S
POLICIES HAS WEAKENED ENEMIES
YOU'RE RIGHT.
>> FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS
TALKED ABOUT BEING A DICTATOR ON
DAY ONE, IT'S NICE TO HAVE A
STRONG MAN, AND HE'S TALKED
ABOUT RETRIBUTION.
>> HE SAID RETRIBUTION WOULD BE
SUCCESS.
WHO KNOCKED TRUMP OFF THE BALLOT
IN COLORADO?
WHO KNOCKED TRUMP OFF THE BALLOT
IN MAINE?
THERE IS A LIBERAL JIHAD AGAINST
EVERYTHING TRUMP.
I'M NOT --
>> THOSE WERE REPUBLICANS.
>> I'M WORRIED ABOUT JOE BIDEN
DESTROYING THE WORLD.
>> THOSE WERE REPUBLICANS IN THE
SUPREME COURT THAT HE HAS PUT
THEM BACK ON THE BALLOT AS YOU
KNOW.
>> IS TRUMP BAD FOR THIS
COUNTRY.
NO --
>> JOE BIDEN'S POLICIES ARE BAD
FOR AMERICA AND HAVE GOT THE
WORLD ON FIRE.
>> SENATOR, JUST BE VERY CLEAR,
THOUGH, HE IS ALIGNING HIMSELF
WITH VIKTOR ORBAN.
>> WHO IS A MEMBER OF NATO WHO
VOTED TO LET SWEETENDEN IN.
>> RELUCTANTLY.
>> ORBAN IS NOT ON THE BALLOT.
YOU HAVE TO VOTE BETWEEN TRUMP
AND BIDEN, BIDEN HAS SCREWED THE
WORLD UP EVERYWHERE YOU CAN.
BROKEN BORDERS AND THE WORLD IS
ON FIRE, IF HE'S BACK AND IF
HE'S WITH IT AND ENERGETIC, GET
IN A ROOM WITH DONALD TRUMP AND
DEBATE.
TAKE QUESTIONS FROM PEOPLE LIKE
YOURSELF RATHER THAN READING A
TELEPROMPTER IF THERE'S EVER AN
ELECTION IN THE HISTORY OF
AMERICA THAT DESERVED A DEBATE
BETWEEN THE TWO CANDIDATES IT'S
THIS ELECTION.
TRUMP JUST TOLD ME THE CAMPAIGN
JUST TOLD ME, ANY TIME ANYWHERE,
LET'S DEBATE.
>> VERY QUICKLY, JUST ONE MORE
POINT BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO MY
VERY LAST QUESTION.
TRUMP HAS SAID TO PUTIN THAT HE
WOULD WELCOME HIM INVADING A
NATO COUNTRY, SENATOR, IF THEY
DIDN'T PAY THEIR BILLS.
SHOULD PEOPLE NOT HEAR THAT
RHETORIC AND FEEL AS THOUGH HE
IS POTENTIALLY ALIGNING HIMSELF
WITH THE TYPE OF LEADERSHIP THAT
ORBAN HAS SHOWN?
>> THAT WAS IN REFERENCE TO NATO
PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE.
THERE ARE 19 NATIONS THAT DON'T
PAY THE 2% THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.
>> HE'S INVITING TO INVADE A
NATO COUNTRY.
>> YOU SHOULDN'T SAY THAT.
>> THE POINT IS RUSSIA DIDN'T
INVADE UKRAINE WHEN TRUMP WAS
PRESIDENT.
THE WORLD, THE ARABS RECOGNIZE
ISRAEL THROUGH THE ABRAHAM
ACCORDS WHEN TRUMP WAS
PRESIDENT.
IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT WHO IS
THE MOST STABLE PERSON FOR THE
WORLD, BIDEN VERSUS TRUMP, TRUMP
WINS IN A LANDSLIDE.
>> JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR YOU
MENTIONED A LOT OF DIFFERENT
THINGS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE
AFGHANISTAN WITHDRAWAL, THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT TRUMP HAD
ACTUALLY PUT INTO PLACE BEFORE
BIDEN GOT INTO OFFICE.
>> BECAUSE IT HAPPENED WHEN HE
WAS IN OFFICE.
LET'S MOVE ON TO TIKTOK VERY
QUICKLY.
THE HOUSE IS PLANNING TO VOTE
THIS COMING WEEK THAT WOULD
FORCE THE CHINESE COMPANY TO
FACE TIKTOK OR FACE BEING
BANNED.
TRUMP NATIONALLY FAVORED BANNING
TIKTOK.
NOW HE'S OPPOSED AND EXPRESSING
HIS OPPOSITION.
DO YOU SUPPORT BANNING TIKTOK?
WHERE DO YOU PAUL?FALL?
>> TIKTOK DOESN'T FALL INTO THE
HAND OF THE CHINESE COMMUNIST
POLICY.
I KNOW THIS ABOUT SOCIAL MEAD
WHY.
THEY'RE RUINING AMERICA AND
SEXUAL PREDATORS ABOUND ON THESE
SITES AND YOU CAN'T SUE SOCIAL
MEDIA COMPANIES AND THERE'S NO
REGULATORY BODY AND THAT'S WHAT
I'M FOCUSED ON.
BANNING TIKTOK, MAYBE THAT'S
NECESSARY TO PROTECT AMERICAN
DATA FROM CHINA, BUT IF YOU CAN
FIND A WAY TO AVOID THAT, THAT
WOULD BE GOOD, TOO.
>> YOU WERE A STRONG SUPPORTER
OF IT IN 2020?
>> I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE LIKE
TIKTOK, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP
TIKTOK RUNNING, BUT NOT HAVE OUR
DATA USED BY THE COMMUNIST
CHINESE PARTY.
>> HOW DO YOU VOTE ON THIS?
?
I DON'T KNOW YET.
I AM BEING HONEST WITH YOU.
I'M DEFINITELY CONFLICTED.
ONE THING I'M NOT CONFLICTED
ABOUT, EVERY SOCIAL MEDIA
COMPANY SHOULD BE SUED IF THEY
DO DAMAGE TO YOU AND YOUR
FAMILY.
THEY'RE PROTECTED FROM LAWSUITS.
SECTION 230 NEEDS TO GO.
>> SENATOR LINDSAY GRAHAM, THANK
YOU FOR BEING HERE.
WE APPRECIATE IT. WHEN
>>> IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO
>>> IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO
THE GENERAL, LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN.
WITHIN HOURS OF OUR ANNOUNCEMENT
A CERTAIN KEVIN McCARTHY KICKED
ME OFF OF THE INTELLIGENCE
COMMITTEE.
TRUMP ATTACKED MEAD IN RALLY
AFTER RALLY AND THAT WAS CALLED
WEDNESDAY, BUT YOU'VE HAD MY
BACK EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.
>> WELCOME BACK.
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN ADAM
SCHIFF WAS THE TOP VOTE GETTER
IN THIS WEEK'S PRIMARY TO
REPLACE THE LATE CALIFORNIA
SENATOR DIANNE FEINSTEIN, FACING
OFF AGAINST REPUBLICAN STEVE
GOOD
GARVEY A FORMER MAJOR BASEBALL
LEAGUE PLAYER.
WELCOME BACK TO "MEET THE
PRESS".
>> GREAT TO BE WITH YOU.
IT IS SO GREAT TO HAVE YOU.
LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR RACE, YOUR
FORMER APPOINTMENT CONGRESSWOMAN
KATIE PORTER IS NOW SAYING THAT
THE CALIFORNIA SENATE RACE WAS,
OF COURSE, RIGGED.
THAT'S A TERM TRUMP USED TO
DESCRIBE THE 2020 ELECTION.
PORTER SAID SHE WAS RESPONDING
TO, QUOTE, AN ONSLAUGHT OF
BILLIONS -- BILLIONAIRES
SPENDING MILLIONS AGAINST HER.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF HER USING
THE TERM "RIGGED"?
>> FIRST OF ALL, KATIE PORTER
RAN A VERY TOUGH CAMPAIGN AS DID
BARBARA LEE.
THEY BOTH CALLED TO EXTEND VERY
GRACIOUS CONGRATULATIONS THIS
WEEK SO I HAVE NOTHING, BUT
RESPECT FOR MY COLLEAGUES.
THAT TERM RIGGED, THOUGH IS A
VERY LOADED TERM IN THE YEAR OF
TRUMP.
IT CONNOTES FRAUD, BALLOT
STUFFING AND FALSE CLAIMS LIKE
THOSE OF DONALD TRUMP, AND I
THINK WHAT'S REMARKABLE IS
DEMOCRATS VERY QUICKLY RALLIED
TO SAY NO, WE DON'T USE THAT
LANGUAGE.
THE ELECTION WAS LEGITIMATE, AND
THIS IS A SHARP CONTRAST TO HOW
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TREATS
ALLEGATIONS OF RIGGED ELECTIONS
WHICH IS THEY'VE GONE ALONG WITH
THEM.
INDEED, THEY'RE URGING PRESIDENT
TRUMP TO PARDON THE JANUARY 6th
INSURRECTIONISTS IF HE EVER GOT
A CHANCE.
SO A VERY DIFFERENT REACTION
AMONG THE PARTIES TO ANY KIND OF
CHALLENGE TO OUR DEMOCRACY OR
SUGGESTION THAT ELECTIONS ARE
ILLEGITIMATE, BUT LOOK, MY
OPPONENTS HAVE BEEN VERY
GRACIOUS AND I HAVE NOTHING, BUT
RESPECT FOR THEM.
>> CONGRESSMAN, JUST TO BE VERY
CLEAR, KATIE PORTER CONCEDED
WHEN SHE CALLED YOU?
>> SHE CONGRATULATED ME, WHICH I
CERTAINLY VIEW IT AS A
CONCESSION AND SHE WAS VERY
GRACIOUS IN HER MESSAGE TO ME,
AND I APPRECIATED THE CALL.
LOOK, I'VE BEEN ON BOTH SIDES OF
ELECTIONS AND WINNING THEM AND
LOSING THEM AND IT'S TOUGH.
WE'RE IN A TOUGH BUSINESS, BUT
HER CALL COULD NOT HAVE BEEN
MORE GRACIOUS.
>> YOUR CAMPAIGN SPENT MILLIONS
OF DOLLARS IN TV ADS
SPOTLIGHTING THE PROFILE OF
FORMER BASEBALL STAR REPUBLICAN
STEVE GARVEY EFFECTIVELY
ELEVATING HIM OVER A NUMBER OF
YOUR DEMOCRATIC CHALLENGERS AND
AS A RESULT REPUBLICAN TURNOUT
REALLY BOOMED IN A NUMBER OF
DISTRICTS INCLUDING A LOT OF
DISTRICTS THE DEMOCRATS WERE
TRYING TO HOLD ON TO OR FLIP.
ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT YOUR
ACTIONS MAY HAVE HELPED
REPUBLICANS TO HOLD ON TO THE
HOUSE IN 2024?
>>.
>> NO, NOT AT ALL.
WE HAVE A JUNGLE PRIMARY IN
CALIFORNIA, ALL OF US WERE ON
THE DEBATE STAGE, THE LONE
REPUBLICAN STEVE GARVEY AND
THREE DEMOCRATS AND YES, I
EMPHASIZED MY RECORD OF GETTING
THINGS DONE IN CALIFORNIA, OF
PROTECTING OUR DEMOCRACY AND OUR
RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS INCLUDING
REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM AND I ALSO
WENT AFTER STEVE GARVEY AS DID
OTHER DEMOCRATS.
THE CHALLENGE MY DEMOCRATS HAD
LESS GARVEY-CONSOLIDATED
REPUBLICANS AND THEIR INABILITY
TO GAIN DEMOCRAT SUPPORT.
MY SUPPORT AMONG DEMOCRATS WERE
MORE THAN TWICE MY CLOSEST
DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUE.
IN TERMS OF A TURNOUT, THIS IS A
DEMOCRATIC CYCLE AND RUNNING FOR
SENATE IT IS THE PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATES WHO DRIVE TURNOUT OR
FAIL TO DRIVE TURNOUT AND WE
HAVE TO MAKE SURE IN NOVEMBER
THAT WE TURN OUT ALL THESE
VOTERS AND FRANKLY NOT HAVING
ONE DEMOCRAT NOT SPENDING
MILLIONS TO BASH ANOTHER
DEMOCRAT IS HELPFUL IN THE DOWN
BALLOT RACES BECAUSE A LOT MORE
OF THOSE RESOURCES WILL NOW GO
OVER TO WINNING OVER DEMOCRATIC
SEATS.
>> YOU DO TAKE ME TO MY NEXT
QUESTION WHICH IS THAT YOUR
VICTORY SPEECH WAS INTERRUPTED
BY PRO-PALESTINIAN PROTESTERS.
ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT PRESIDENT
BIDEN'S FULL-THROATED SUPPORT OF
ISRAEL COULD OVERSHADOW SOME OF
THESE RACES AND COULD COST SEATS
UP AND DOWN THE BALLOT?
>> LOOK, I THINK PRESIDENT BIDEN
IS DOING WHEN HE SHOULD DO IS
FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE RIGHT
ANSWER, WHAT'S RIGHT POLICY, HOW
DO WE BRING THIS CONFLICT TO AN
END?
HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT A
TERRORIST GROUP LIKE HAMAS IS NO
LONGER CONTROLLING GAZA?
HOW DO WE GET TO A TWO-STATE
SOLUTION AND HE'S APPROACHING IT
FROM WHAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO
DO ANY THEN FIGURING OUT WHAT
ARE THE POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES
AND HOW DO I DEAL WITH THEM
INSTEAD OF THE OTHER WAY AROUND?
AND FRANKLY, I THINK THAT'S
EXACTLY WHAT HE SHOULD DO?
WE'LL HAVE TO WORK HARD TO
MOTIVATE AND TURN OUT YOUNG
PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR.
I THINK HE'S GOT A PHENOMENAL
RECORD TO APPEAL TO YOUNG PEOPLE
AND NO ONE'S DONE MORE TO REDUCE
THE BURDEN OF STUDENT DEBT THAN
JOE BIDEN AND NO ONE HAS DONE
MORE TO ATTACK GUN VIOLENCE THAN
JOE BIDEN AND A WHOLE HOST OF
ISSUES YOUNG PEOPLE CARE ABOUT,
HE'S GOT AN INCREDIBLE RECORD
AND WE CAN'T TAKE ANYTHING FOR
GRANTED AND I THINK THE HIGHEST
PRIORITY HAS TO BE IN TURNING
YOUNG PEOPLE OUT TO VOTE.
>> CONGRESSMAN, LET ME ASK YOU
ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT THIS
WEEKEND.
U.S. INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS ARE
PLANNING TO PROVIDE BRIEFINGS
FOR DONALD TRUMP ONCE HE, IF HE
OFFICIALLY SECURES THE
NOMINATION, DESPITE THE FACT
THAT HE'S FACING 40 FELONY
CHARGES FOR HIS HANDLING OF
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS.
AS THE FORMER CHAIR OF THE HOUSE
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE DO YOU
THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR HIM
TO RECEIVE INTELLIGENCE
BRIEFINGS?
>> WELL, THAT IS THE PRACTICE,
BUT WE'VE NEVER HAD A SITUATION
WHERE ONE OF THE CANDIDATES FOR
PRESIDENT HAS BEEN SO CRIMINALLY
NEGLIGENT WHEN IT COMES TO
HANDLING IF NOT WORSE, WHEN IT
COMES TO HANDLING CLASSIFIED
INFORMATION.
SO I HAVE TO HOPE AND KNOWING
THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AS I
DO, THAT THEY WILL DUMB DOWN THE
BRIEFING FOR DONALD TRUMP, THAT
IS THEY WILL GIVE HIM NO MORE
INFORMATION THAN ABSOLUTELY
NECESSARY, NOTHING THAT WOULD
REVEAL SOURCES OR METHODS
BECAUSE WE CAN'T TRUST THAT HE
WILL DO THE RIGHT THING WITH
THAT INFORMATION.
HE'S BEEN SO RECKLESS.
SO, YES, IT DOES CONCERN ME.
IT IS PART OF A LONG TRADITION.
THEY WILL BE WARY OF WHEN THEY
SHARE WITH HIM AND THEY SHOULD.
>> FINAL QUESTION HERE,
CONGRESSMAN, LET'S TALK ABOUT
THIS TIKTOK DEBATE ON CAPITOL
HILL.
THE HOUSE EXPECTED TO VOTE NEXT
WEEK ON A BILL THAT WOULD REALLY
CRACK DOWN ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA
SITE.
DO YOU SUPPORT A BAN OF TIKTOK?
WILL YOU VOTE FOR THIS
LEGISLATION?
>> I NEED TO LOOK AT THE
LEGISLATION.
I HAVE NOT SUPPORTED A BAN ON
TIKTOK IN MY VIEW WHEN IT COMES
TO A PLATFORM OR VEHICLE FOR
SPEECH.
WE NEED TO LOOK FOR THE LEAST
RESTRICTIVE MEANS OF MEETING OUR
OBJECTIVES.
THERE ARE RELLAL PRIVACY CONCERN
AND SECURITY CONCERNS AND IS
THERE A WAY TO MEET THOSE
WITHOUT BANNING A PLATFORM THAT
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE LIKE USING.
THIS IS A DIVESTITURE BILL, BUT
I NEED TO STUDY IT MORE BEFORE I
MAKE A DECISION.
>> WE'LL WATCH IT CLOSELY AND
LET US KNOW ONCE YOU HAVE MADE A
DECISION.
CONGRESSMAN SCHIFF, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US THIS
MORNING.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND WHEN
WE COME BACK, THE RESPONSE TO
THE PRESIDENT'S STATE OF THE
UNION IS ALWAYS A DIFFICULT
ASSIGNMENT.
WE LOOK BACK AT A TRADITION THAT STARTED IN 1966.
>>> WELCOME BACK.
>>> WELCOME BACK.
THE STATE OF THE UNION RESPONSE WHICH ALABAMA SENATOR KATIE
WHICH ALABAMA SENATOR KATIE
BRITT DELIVERED THIS WEEK IS A
TRADITION THAT DATES BACK TO
1966.
THAT YEAR SENATOR EVERETT
DIRKSON AND THEN-CONGRESSMAN --
PRESIDENT LYNDON JOHNSON.
GERALD FORD JOINED THAT
BROADCAST THE DAY BEFORE THE
SPEECH TO DEFEND THIS NOVEL
IDEA.
>> WE BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC
NEEDS AND DESERVES THE OTHER
SIDE OF THE COIN, THAT THEY
SHOULD GET BOTH SIDES OF THE
APPRAISAL OF THE STATE OF THE
UNION BOTH DOMESTIC AND
INTERNATIONAL, AND WE WILL MAKE
SOME SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS
LEGISLATIVELY SPEAKING, SENATOR
DIRKSEN WILL MAKE BE ONNER IS
VAGDZS AND COMMENTS AND PERHAPS
RECOMMENDATIONS CONCERNING
INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS.
>> WOULD A RUDE PERSON CALL THIS
A KIND OF 66 CAMPAIGN DOCUMENT,
MR. FORD?
>> I HOPE NOT.
WE WILL TRY TO BE OBJECTIVE.
WE WILL TRY TO GIVE THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE THE OTHER SIDE, THE -- WE
BELIEVE THIS WILL HELP TO
STRENGTHEN THE AMERICAN
POLITICAL SYSTEM AND FOR THAT
REASON WE'RE GIVING IT.
>> WHEN WE COME BACK, IT'S THE
RE-MATCH VOTERS SAID THEY DIDN'T
WANT.
NOW THE BIDEN-TRUMP RACE WILL
PLAY OUT OVER THE NEXT 240 DAYS. OUR PAN IS NEXT.
>>> WELCOME BACK.
>>> WELCOME BACK.
THE PANEL IS HERE.
NBC NEWS SENIOR WHITE HOUSE
CORRESPONDENT KELLY O'DONNELL.
EUGENE DANIELS, WHITE HOUSE
CORRESPONDENT FOR POLITICO,
CO-AUTHOR OF POLITICO PLAYBOOK.
MARC MORIAL PRESIDENT OF THE
NATIONAL URBAN LEAGUE AND
REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST SARA
FAGAN.
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> -- ON AWE VERY VERY BUSY SUND
THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN RAISED $$10
MILLION AFTER THE STATE OF THE
UNION ADDRESS AFTER DELIVERING A
SPEECH THAT FRANKLY, FIRED UP
HIS BASE AND NOW HE'S
BARNSTORMING KEY STATES.
HOW ARE HIS ALLIES FEELING ABOUT
THIS RESET?
>> THEY'RE FEELING THAT THAT
MONEY IS SHOWING THE ATTEMPT TO
SHOW THE VIGOR REALLY WORKED.
THEY VIEW MARCH AS A BUILDING
AND SCALING TIME WHERE THEY WILL
TRY TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THEIR
VOLUNTEERS, THEIR ORGANIZATION
AND THEIR STATE PARTIES AND
LATER FOR THE PERSUASION, RIGHT
NOW, IF THERE'S AN
INFRASTRUCTURE WEEK IN POLITICS
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TALKING
ABOUT.
SPRINGING FORWARD INTO BUILDING
THOSE KEY GROUPS THAT WILL HELP
SUPPORT THE CAMPAIGN GOING
FORWARD.
INITIALLY, THEY FEEL STRONG
ABOUT HOW THE PRESIDENT
PERFORMED AND THEY KNOW THEY'VE
GOT TO TAKE THAT ON THE ROAD.
>> THEY SURE DO, AND EUGENE
YESTERDAY WITH THESE DUELING,
VENTS IN
EVENTS IN GEORGIA IT SHOWED HOW
BRUTAL AND COMBATIVE THIS
CAMPAIGN IS GOING TO BE.
HOW IS BIDEN GOING TO BE
APPROACHING THAT?
DOES HE FEEL HE HAS TO MATCH
TRUMP'S COMBATIVENESS?
?
>> I THINK IT'S LESS THAN
MATCHING TRUMP'S COMBATIVENESS,
BUT SHOWING HE HAS A FIGHT.
THEY'RE VERY HAPPY WITH HIM
SHOWING VIGOR.
THEY WANTED TO SEE SOMEONE WHO
WOULD FIGHT FOR THEM AND THAT'S
SOMETHING THEY KNOW THEY HAVE TO
CONTINUE.
WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP SEEING,
RIGHT?
PRESIDENT BIDEN FEELS IN HIS
BONES THAT DEMOCRAT SEECY IS ON
LINE AND PEOPLE WANT TO SEE
HIM -- AND HE HAS TO DO THE
OTHER PART OF IT, RIGHT?
HE HAS TO SHOW A FUTURE AND TALK
ABOUT THE THINGS THAT HE'LL DO
FOR AMERICA SO THERE HAS TO BE A
BALANCE AND THE COMBATIVE NATURE
IS GOING TO CONTINUE THROUGHOUT
THIS ELECTION.
>> SARA FAGAN, WE'LL ALL BUCKLE
UP AS WE WAIT FOR THAT COMBATIVE
RACE TO UNFOLD AND INTENSIFY.
LOOK, MIKE JOHNSON, THE SPEAKER
OF THE HOUSE CALLED PRESIDENT
BIDEN'S SPEECH HYPERPARTISAN,
AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES, I
THINK FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN AND
TRUMP IS IN ORDER TO WIN THEY
HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THOSE NIKKI
HALEY VOTERS, THOSE INDEPENDENT,
MODERATE VOTERS.
WHAT IS YOUR SENSE ABOUT WHO IS
DOING THE BETTER JOB OF REACHING
OUT TO THEM RIGHT NOW.
>> TRADITIONALLY THE STATE OF
THE UNION WOULD BE ABOUT
CROSSING THE AISLE AND BRINGING
MORE INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATES
TO HIS SIDE AND THAT WAS NOT
WHAT HE DID ON THURSDAY, BUT IF
YOU THINK ABOUT WHERE HE IS
POLITICALLY, PROFOUND WEAKNESS
IN THE DEMOCRATIC BASE.
HE IS UNDERPERFORMING AMONG MANY
OF HIS CONSTITUENTS AND GROUPS
SO THAT SPEECH APPEARS TO BE
DESIGNED AND IT APPEARS TO HAVE
EVIDENCE THAT WAS HELPFUL AND
WORKED IN SHORING UP SUPPORT
AMONG HIS BASE.
HE DID MAKE A STRATEGIC ERROR,
THOUGH, IN MY VIEW, HE TIED
FUNDING FOR UKRAINE TO VLADIMIR
PUTIN'S AGGRESSION IN EUROPE AND
HE MADE IT HARDER FOR
REPUBLICANS TO VOTE TO SUPPORT
THAT AID IN DOING SO, AND HE
MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY TO REACH
OUT TO THOSE NIKKI HALEY VOTERS
WHO ALIGN MORE WITH BIDEN ON
THESE FOREIGN POLICY ISSUES THAN
THEY DO WITH TRUMP AND THAT WAS
A BLUNDER.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
MARC, LET ME TURN TO YOU BECAUSE
SARA TALKS ABOUT KEY
CONSTITUENTS.
THE NATIONAL URBAN LEAGUE JUST
COMPLETED ITS REPORT ON THE
STATE OF BLACK AMERICA.
WHAT DID YOU FIND AND HOW DOES
IT RELATE TO THIS RACE?
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
SO WE LOOKED AT THREE DIFFERENT
THINGS.
NUMBER ONE IS IT'S THE 60th
ANNIVERSARY SINCE THE PASSAGE OF
THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964 AND
ONE QUESTION IS HAS THE NATION
CHANGED AND HAS IT HAD AN
IMPACT?
LOOK AT THIS PANEL, LOOK AT THIS
NEWSROOM, LOOK AT AMERICA AND
THE CONGRESS THE CHANGE FOR
PEOPLE OF COLOR AND WOMEN HAS
BEEN ABSOLUTELY PROFOUND, AND
THAT HAS TO BE UNDERSCORED.
HOWEVER, WE ALSO LOOKED AT
DISPARITIES BETWEEN BLACK AND
WHITE AMERICANS, AND THOSE
DISPARITIES NOT WITHSTANDING THE
CHANGE HAVE NOT SIGNIFICANTLY
NARROWED, PARTICULARLY IN THE
LAST 20 YEARS.
ONLY A NARROWING OF MAYBE A FEW
PERCENTAGE POINTS.
AT THIS RATE WE'RE 180 YEARS
AWAY FROM PARITY.
NUMBER TWO, WE NOTE THE ATTACKS
ON THIS PROGRESS.
THEY COME IN THE FORM OF VOTER
SUPPRESSION, VOTER PURGES,
ATTACKS ON DEMOCRACY, ATTACKS ON
EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND DENI,
BANNING OF BOOKS AND ATTACKS TO
TRY TO THWART THIS PROGRESS AND
WE DID A BIDEN BLACK SCORECARD
TO LOOK AT HIS PROMISES AND HIS
PERFORMANCES AND IT TOLD US IS,
HERE IS SOMEONE WHO MADE
COMMITMENTS TO BLACK AMERICA,
WRITTEN, SPECIFIC, ENUMERATED
AND SOMEONE WHO SUBSTANTIALLY
FOLLOWED THROUGH ON MANY OF
THOSE COMMITMENTS WITH A LIST OF
UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
VOTING RIGHTS, LIVING WAGES,
CHILD TAX CREDIT, JUSTICE AND
POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY.
>> YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S SO
NOTABLE BECAUSE SARA FAGAN, LOOK
AT THIS, IF YOU LOOK AT BLACK
ADULTS WHO IDENTIFY AS
REPUBLICAN OR REPUBLICAN LEANING
IT'S GROWN SIX POINTS SINCE
2021.
MARC LAYS OUT WHAT'S BEEN
ACCOMPLISHED, BUT SAYS THERE'S
STILL WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE
DONE.
WHY DO YOU THINK WE'RE SEEING
THAT?
>> I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF
REASONS.
PRIMARILY IT'S ECONOMIC.
WE'RE COMING OUT OF THIS VERY
HIGH INFLATIONARY PERIOD AND
IT'S COOLED, BUT STILL, YOU
KNOW, FOOD COSTS AND HOUSING
COSTS.
THESE ARE HIGHER PERCENTAGES OF
PEOPLE'S TAKE HOME BUDGETS AND
SO IF YOU'RE A WORKING CLASS
AMERICAN OF ANY COLOR YOU HAVE
REALLY BEEN IMPACTED BY THAT AND
SO VOTERS OVERWHELMINGLY
CONSIDER TRUMP, THE TRUMP
ECONOMY TO HAVE WORKED BETTER
FOR THEM THAN THE BIDEN ECONOMY
AND THAT'S AFFECTED BLACK
AMERICANS AND I THINK ON
CULTURAL ISSUES, AS WELL, THERE
IS A PERCENTAGE OF BLACK
AMERICANS THAT LOOKS AT THE
PROGRESSIVE WING OF THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND THINKS I
DON'T HAVE MUCH IN COMMON WITH
VOTERS OR ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO
BELIEVE ABORTION SHOULD BE
AVAILABLE ON DEMAND UP TO THE
NINTH MONTH, AND ON SOME OF
THESE GENDER ISSUES.
THEY'RE MORE ALIGNED WITH A
CONSERVATIVE VIEWPOINT THAN THEY
ARE OF THE PROGRESSIVE WING OF
THE DEMOCRAT.
>> NO DOUBT THE --
>> I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT,
LET'S NOT OBSESS OVER FEBRUARY
POLLS.
IF WE HAD FOLLOWED FEBRUARY
POLLS THERE WOULD BE NO
PRESIDENT REAGAN, NO PRESIDENT
CLINTON AND NO PRESIDENT OBAMA.
THESE POLLS DON'T MEAN ANYTHING
BECAUSE THE CAMPAIGN IS
BEGINNING AND ENGAGEMENT WITH
VOTE SERS NOW STARTING.
>> WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO.
KELLY, HOW DOES THE CAMPAIGN
DEAL WITH THIS AND OBVIOUSLY,
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT DEBATES
A LOT AND THIS IS A CHANCE FOR
THEM TO REACH OUT TO ALL VOTERS.
>> FROM THE TRUMP SIDE, THEY'RE
SAYING ANYWHERE, ANY TIME, ANY
MODERATOR AND IT IS THEIR IN
INTENTION TO SAY NO TOED BY KNOW
DEBATING.
THIS IS ABOUT DISTRACTION AND
THIS IS THE TRUMP TAUNT OF 2024,
AND THERE WILL BE A TIME AND
PLACE FOR THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE BIDEN
TEAM IS DOING RIGHT NOW WHICH IS
IS ADRESSING THIS CONVERSATION
IS WHAT I CALL MICRO EVENT WHERE
THEY GO INTO A FAMILY'S HOME AND
SHOOT A VIDEO THERE AND THEY
TALK IT TO A SMALL BUSINESS
OWNER AND WHY WOULD THEY GIVE AN
HOUR TO CITIZENS IN THEY WANT TO
SEE HIM AS WARM ANDEN GAMING AND
THEY CAN ASSESS HIS AGE AND THEY
ARE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE IN THEIR
COMMUNITIES, TO BE ADVOCATES
DOWN THE LINE.
>> EUGENE, FINAL POINT, YOU'VE
GOT THE LAST 30 SECONDS.
>> ALL OF THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT.
THEY WANT THIS PRESIDENT TO BE
SEEN AS SOMEONE WHO IS HELPING
THE EVERYDAY AMERICANS AND WHEN
YOU HAVE THOSE BLACK VOTERS AND
I TALKED TO THE FOLKS THAT HE'S
TALKED TO THEY FEEL DIFFERENTLY
ABOUT HIM AND NOW YOU HAVE THE
PRESIDENT EXPLAINING THE KINDS
OF THINGS THAT HE HAS DONE FOR
THEM AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS FAILED
TO DO.
WE HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO GO
BEFORE THAT ENDS, BUT THEY'LL BE
DOING THAT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
GREAT CONVERSATION.
THAT IS ALL FOR TODAY.
THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.
WE WILL BE BACK NEXT WEEK
BECAUSE IF IT'S SUNDAY, IT'S
"MEET THE PRESS."
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