Dragon Ball GTFS Commentary | Episodes 1-3

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16 Mar 202435:14

Summary

TLDRThe script discusses the hosts' experience watching the first three episodes of Dragon Ball GT, sharing their thoughts on the show's changes in character designs, storytelling, and overall reception. They critique the handling of characters like Pan and Trunks, the introduction of new characters like Giru, and the shift in tone from previous Dragon Ball series. The hosts also reflect on the show's music and its impact on their viewing experience, with a preference for the Japanese version's score over the English dub.

Takeaways

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  • 📺 The conversation shifts to discussing Dragon Ball GT, a series the speaker hasn't watched since its original run.
  • 🌟 The speaker expresses a desire to experience Dragon Ball GT in its original form, without the influence of childhood memories.
  • 🚀 The discussion includes the differences between Dragon Ball GT and its predecessors, noting the lighter, more adventure-focused tone.
  • 🎭 The speaker critiques the English dub of Dragon Ball GT, while also acknowledging its charm and enjoyability.
  • 🌐 The script mentions the skipping of 16 episodes in the American release of Dragon Ball GT by FUNimation, due to perceived lack of fan interest.
  • 🎮 The speaker shares their anticipation for watching Dragon Ball GT in Japanese with subtitles to form a new, unbiased opinion.
  • 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 The script also touches on character development and the dynamics between familiar characters like Goku, Vegeta, and Pan.
  • 🚀 The excitement for the journey and adventure in Dragon Ball GT is palpable, despite the speaker's mixed feelings about certain aspects of the series.

Q & A

  • What is the main theme of the Dragon Ball GT opening?

    -The main theme of the Dragon Ball GT opening is adventure and a return to a lighter, more light-hearted tone, similar to the original Dragon Ball series.

  • What is the significance of the Black Star Dragon Balls in Dragon Ball GT?

    -The Black Star Dragon Balls are a new addition in Dragon Ball GT. They have always existed and are hidden deep within the lookout. They play a crucial role in the series as they are scattered throughout the galaxy and must be collected to save Earth from destruction.

  • How does the character design in Dragon Ball GT differ from previous Dragon Ball series?

    -The character designs in Dragon Ball GT have been updated to reflect a more modern style. However, this change has been met with mixed reactions, with some characters like Vegeta and Trunks receiving significant changes that fans have found controversial.

  • What is the role of Pan in Dragon Ball GT?

    -Pan, the daughter of Gohan and Videl, plays a significant role in Dragon Ball GT. Initially portrayed as a strong and independent character, she later becomes more of a mascot character, with her behavior maturing as the series progresses.

  • How does the narrative structure of Dragon Ball GT differ from Dragon Ball Z?

    -Dragon Ball GT initially focuses more on adventure and less on fighting, similar to the original Dragon Ball series. However, it later reverts to a more familiar Dragon Ball Z format, focusing on powerful battles and the收集 of Dragon Balls.

  • What is the significance of the character Giru in Dragon Ball GT?

    -Giru is a robot character introduced in Dragon Ball GT who consumes technology to reforge itself. Giru becomes a mascot character and plays a role in the storyline, particularly in the early episodes.

  • What is the impact of the decision to skip the first 16 episodes of Dragon Ball GT in the FUNimation dub?

    -Skipping the first 16 episodes in the FUNimation dub significantly altered the introduction to Dragon Ball GT, omitting the Grand Tour Part and jumping straight into the space adventure. This decision changed the pacing and tone of the series introduction for Western audiences.

  • How does the music in the Dragon Ball GT anime compare to the previous series?

    -The music in Dragon Ball GT, particularly in the English dub, has been criticized for being less impactful and memorable compared to the scores from previous series. The original Japanese version has a more engaging and dynamic soundtrack.

  • What is the significance of the character Uub in Dragon Ball GT?

    -Uub, also known as Buuhan, is a significant character in Dragon Ball GT as he is the reincarnation of Kid Buu and is trained by Goku. His role in the series is to showcase a new generation of fighters and to continue the legacy of powerful characters.

  • What are the audience's initial impressions of the Dragon Ball GT series?

    -Initial impressions of Dragon Ball GT were mixed, with some fans enjoying the return to a more adventurous and light-hearted tone, while others were critical of the changes in character designs and the shift in narrative focus.

  • What is the significance of the character Mr. Satan in Dragon Ball GT?

    -Mr. Satan, also known as Hercule in the English dub, continues to play a role in Dragon Ball GT, often providing comic relief and highlighting the contrast between his perceived strength and the actual power of the main characters.

Outlines

00:00

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05:00

🚀 Introduction to Dragon Ball GT Review

The speaker transitions from a sponsorship message to discuss the intent to review Dragon Ball GT, motivated by viewer requests and personal curiosity. Despite never having watched the original GT opening before, the speaker decides to give Dragon Ball GT a chance, reflecting on its differences from previous series and its attempt to return to the adventure-focused style of the original Dragon Ball. The early episodes are summarized, noting the significant power scale down of characters and the focus on a space adventure, sparking interest in the series' unique direction.

10:01

🎬 Funimation's Approach to Dragon Ball GT

This segment delves into Funimation's adaptation strategy for Dragon Ball GT, highlighting the decision to skip the first 16 episodes for American audiences due to their perceived lack of action and focus on adventure. The speaker reflects on the charm of the original Dragon Ball GT adventures and expresses interest in the series' attempt to blend adventure with character development, despite some initial reservations about the show's direction and character power scaling.

15:02

🌟 Character Adjustments and Early Misadventures

The narrative continues with observations on character design changes and the introduction of new elements, like the Black Star Dragon Balls. The discussion critiques some of the design choices and plot devices, such as Vegeta's mustache and the impracticalities of the GT Dragon Balls. The segment touches on early episodes' adventures, including the quest for the Black Star Dragon Balls and the dynamics between Goku, Trunks, and Pan, setting the stage for the series' interstellar journey.

20:05

🛸 First Adventure and Critique of Capitalism Planet

The speakers share their thoughts on the first adventures of Goku, Trunks, and Pan in space, particularly their encounter with a planet dominated by capitalism. The critique focuses on the exaggerated portrayal of capitalism and the impracticalities presented, such as the mysterious source of money the characters seem to have. The discussion also introduces Giru, a new mascot character, and reflects on Pan's character development, expressing hope for improvement in her portrayal.

25:07

🤔 Reflecting on Trunks' Character and Future Episodes

This part reflects on Trunks' character evolution in GT, comparing him unfavorably to his previous incarnations. The speaker notes Trunks' lack of hardship and personality development, emphasizing the missed opportunity to explore his character further. The segment concludes with anticipation for future episodes, hoping for more engaging content and character development, despite acknowledging the show's past criticisms and the challenge of adjusting expectations.

30:16

📺 Initial Impressions and Hopes for Dragon Ball GT

The final segment provides a summary of the speakers' initial impressions of Dragon Ball GT, acknowledging its unique approach and the challenges it faced in appealing to fans of the Dragon Ball series. Despite some criticisms, there's a sense of excitement for exploring the series further, with a commitment to an open-minded approach. The discussion concludes with an invitation to the audience to join them in discovering the highs and lows of Dragon Ball GT.

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💡Dragon Ball GT

Dragon Ball GT is a central topic in the video, as the speakers discuss their experiences and opinions about the series. It is a sequel to the Dragon Ball franchise and is characterized by its unique storyline and changes in the characters' power levels. The discussion revolves around the show's introduction, the characters' designs, and the overall reception of the series.

💡Pon

Pon, short for Pan, is a character from the Dragon Ball GT series who is discussed in the video. She is the daughter of Bulma and Vegeta and is portrayed as wanting to be seen as an adult. Her character development and actions in the series are critiqued by the speakers, particularly her behavior in the first few episodes and her transition from being a strong character to a more whiny one.

💡Vegeta

Vegeta is a key character in the Dragon Ball GT series who undergoes significant changes in appearance and character traits. His new design, including a mustache, is a point of discussion, as well as his character's shift from the original series. The speakers comment on his portrayal and how it affects the overall narrative of Dragon Ball GT.

💡Black Star Dragon Balls

Black Star Dragon Balls are a plot device in Dragon Ball GT. They are a set of Dragon Balls that have a different design and function compared to the original ones. The characters in the series must collect these balls, which are scattered across the galaxy, to prevent catastrophic consequences. This element is crucial to the series' storyline and is a focal point in the speakers' discussion.

💡Goku

Goku is the main character of the Dragon Ball franchise, and his role in Dragon Ball GT is a significant part of the discussion. The speakers talk about his transformation into a child and his interactions with other characters, as well as the implications of his character's changes on the series' narrative.

💡Capitalism Planet

Capitalism Planet is a location in Dragon Ball GT that is characterized by its extreme capitalism and consumerism. The speakers discuss the planet's portrayal in the series, including the inhabitants' reactions to the arrival of aliens and the societal commentary inherent in the planet's depiction.

💡Giru

Giru is a character introduced in Dragon Ball GT who is a robot that eats technology. The speakers mention Giru in the context of the series' use of mascot characters and his role in the plot, highlighting the series' approach to incorporating new characters and elements into the story.

💡Trunks

Trunks is a character from the Dragon Ball series who appears in Dragon Ball GT. The speakers discuss his portrayal in GT, particularly his role as the president of Capsule Corp and his character's evolution from previous series. His character's change and the reasons behind it are part of the critique.

💡Music

The music in Dragon Ball GT, both the background score and the opening/ending themes, is a point of discussion in the video. The speakers compare the music from the original Dragon Ball series to that of GT, commenting on the quality and impact of the music on the overall viewing experience.

Highlights

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The speaker mentions their doctor's appointment and the convenience of having a quick meal prepared.

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The speaker expresses gratitude to Factor for making their life easier.

The speaker transitions into discussing their experience watching Dragon Ball GT.

The speaker shares their initial dislike for Dragon Ball GT due to childhood memories.

The decision to watch Dragon Ball GT in Japanese with subtitles to form a new, unbiased opinion is mentioned.

The speaker discusses the differences between the original Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, and Dragon Ball GT.

The speaker talks about the changes in character power levels and the light-hearted focus of Dragon Ball GT.

The speaker mentions the unique aspects of the Dragon Ball GT opening and their excitement for the series.

The speaker critiques the decision to skip the first 16 episodes of Dragon Ball GT in the FUNimation dub.

The speaker expresses their newfound appreciation for the original score and the uncut original series.

The speaker discusses the character designs and changes in Dragon Ball GT, including the updated looks.

The speaker talks about the introduction of new characters like Pan and the changes in existing characters' personalities.

The speaker shares their anticipation for the upcoming episodes and the potential for character development.

The speaker reflects on the nostalgia and charm of the original Dragon Ball series versus the changes in Dragon Ball GT.

Transcripts

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right this is your idea so okay I've

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never actually seen the original GT

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opening

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[Music]

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thisle

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here we go now a brand new

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battle begins a new adventure for Goku

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and his

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friends step to The Grand Tour grand

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tour tour to The Grand Tour Dragon Ball

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GT son of a I haven't watched this

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since uh the original tunami run I

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didn't even watch all of it you brought

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this up during the commentaries and

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enough people were like yeah no do it do

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it do it so

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fine we watch Dragon Ball GT we're

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watching I should say like we we just

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watched the first three episodes one of

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them twice yes because for all of you at

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[Music]

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home oh my God I forgot that Mr Popo

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Japanese talks like this you know who

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also has to gather the Dragon Balls my

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mom I okay I was making an argument

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early on saying like you know what we

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have an English-speaking audience and I

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I remember not necessarily fondly some

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parts I remember fondly uh the dub of

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Dragon Ball GT which is uh to me all of

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the things that make it bad make it

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charming and enjoyable so so that was

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the angle I was coming from but you

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said how do you not love this that shall

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I count way okay so I wanted to

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experience the series in its truest form

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you know unadulterated by as much as

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possible because with the which with the

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original score without any

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mistranslations because to be frank I'll

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admit I have seen d a sub GT before I

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was a child and I hated it and As I Grew

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Older everything that I remembered from

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it and everything that I saw from it I

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was not a a fan so I decided that I was

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going to give it a real Fair Shake watch

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it beginning to end in Japanese

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subtitled and really come up form my own

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full opinion on GT that isn't informed

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by when I was a child because I think

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that's fair yeah no it's fair and

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honestly there there's parts of it that

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okay as somebody that only watched the

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tsunami run oh yeah which is already

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problem you you blew my mind very early

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on when you mentioned fact that oh yeah

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no they started on episode what 17 they

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skipped 16 episodes of the anime and

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just did like a bunch of like recut

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stuff to fill in the blanks yeah so what

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had happened was FUNimation uh I can't

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remember the year that it was released I

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think 2005 um yeah they were finally

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bringing GT to America after Z was

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ending and they had gotten the buzz the

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feel that people weren't cute fans of GT

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like in general let's be honest GT is

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very different from the original Dragon

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Ball or Dragon Ball Z but it is trying

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to be a lot more like Original Dragon

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Ball at the very start it wants to focus

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on adventure it's much more

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light-hearted there's less fighting so

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yeah one one thing we noticed very early

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on is that all of the characters seem to

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have been scaled down significantly yeah

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in terms of their power yeah FUNimation

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saw that and they realized oh maybe

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people don't want to watch this maybe

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people don't want to watch this initi

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IAL these initial 16 episodes which is

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the Tour Part Grand Tour like cuz we've

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uh so far watched through the first

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three episodes and they just went into

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space yeah like in in episode two at the

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very end they get into space and those

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first 16 episodes are a lot of them just

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doing a bunch of like monster of the

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week stuff from what I'm gathering cuz

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when we were I this is the first time

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I've ever seen the Dragon Ball GT

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opening like the full song everything

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like that that is amazing to me by the

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way and well yeah I again the only

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exposure I ever had to GT was Step Into

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The Grand Tour Grand Tour Grand Tour

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this is setting up for like a mystical

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Journey that this like from what I

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recall the show does not deliver on I

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would I would love to see this you okay

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you will see all of this and it's really

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charming and you were like yeah no

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that's what the first 16 episodes

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are okay yeah so like I'm I'm actually

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kind of down for that aspect of it but

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it it it almost kind of like immediately

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shows its ass uh with how like look we

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just want to get to a story so

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we're going to break a bunch of rules

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and these Dragon Balls have always

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existed deal with it yeah so if

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if we can get into the like show proper

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now yeah um the Poff gang finds the

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Black Star Dragon Balls which which have

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always existed back when commi and

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Piccolo were the same dude Y and they

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made Dragon Balls but they were

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evil

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they're even better they're the GT

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Dragon Balls yeah GT stands for greater

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and and they hid them deep deep within

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the lookout which by the way how deep

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also they're a top a bunch of skeletons

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who are are those old popos what the

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hell no no they aren't old popos they're

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just where popo left his skeletons right

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we we open up on like what is a middly

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kind of a cool scene of Goku training

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Uub and I guess they've just been at the

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look out for 5 years actually I don't I

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don't think they were technically at the

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lookout I think they were just there for

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his quote unquote graduation C his final

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test where they decide to like break

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[Music]

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everything our popo wouldn't stand for

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this which by the way is fantastic

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because in the original Piccolo is

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freaking the hell out over buo

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destroying the lookout in

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this wor Goku and Uub do it right away

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and it wasn't until we rewatched through

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in English that I realized wow Goku

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isn't really taking this seriously cuz

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he's just fighting UB at base level and

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he's like yeah you're ready to go

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kid buo was whooping your ass

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as like as a Super Saiyan and you're

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sitting here like okay oop you're good

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bye yeah no no it's it's I don't believe

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it I don't believe it you can't make me

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believe it's immediately kind of a cool

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looking it's it's a cool looking like

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beam back and forth It's really short

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but yeah it's a short but it's an

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interesting fight and it was it was

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definitely toy trying to be like don't

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worry there's still action there's not

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we'll we'll get to it in about 30

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episodes or so maybe I don't know yeah I

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well if FUNimation is anyone to go by

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about 17 yeah um it's actually sort of

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interesting because in these first three

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episodes uh we're introduced to Pon yes

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who really kind of feels upfront like

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she's going to be action girl and it's

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and it's bizarre the way we're

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introduced to her she's out on a date

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with a boy yeah she's out on a date with

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a boy and it's nebulous how old she

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really is here you ended up looking it

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up right this takes place 5 years after

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the end of Z 5 years after the end of Z

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where she would have been like what

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three or four at the end of Z five I

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can't remember her actual age because

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when it comes in in the show she looks

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like she's somewhere like pre-teen 11 12

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somewhere in that range which is

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actually also another problem because

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when the FUNimation dub originally came

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out they said it was 10 years after the

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end of Z which which yeah is kind of

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wrong it's a mistake that you can make

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and that doesn't bother me and at least

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at that point it makes Pan about 14 so

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the boy crazy nature of her that she

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seems to be exhibiting kind of makes

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sense to although like it's really her

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being boy crazy is kind of just uh a

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trait it's well I was going to say the

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you know anime writing in the 1990s for

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a young girl there's a lot of '90s stuff

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going there's a lot of 90 stuff also I

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hate how hard it is to just find the

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Roshi's fresh prince of B air glasses oh

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yeah that look is a look that is a bad

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look actually I like why those glasses I

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understand he he shows up in the city

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for no reason it's immediately grabbing

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asses the man knows what he's about man

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casual sexual assault sure is funny

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especially with his 80s

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[Music]

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Shades they even see even they find it

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funny it's

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Charming it's too for his penis to

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really work so what harm is it it

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definitely kind of seems like they were

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trying to update everybody's look in

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this and honestly 90% of the characters

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just look worse I'm sorry everyone

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everyone's designs trunks in the puke

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green suit uh and then when he's not in

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the puke green suit he's got the that's

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got the gloves and the shorts and look I

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wear shorts okay but he just he's not

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they're not working they're not shorts

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is a weird combo to begin with cuz like

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what are you cold are you warm what's

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happening uh but nobody suffers worse

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than Vegeta who just went completely off

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model there there's no way of talking

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about this without talking about Vegeta

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it's unfortunate because okay so

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mustache weird thing in terms of the

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production of GT is that the first

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episode looks great fantastic art across

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the board great animation second episode

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immediately looks worse they had another

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Studio working on it and it's not one of

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their best Studios to be quite Frank

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with you and that's the first time we

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see Vegeta with a G haircut the

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first time he shows up if you don't know

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that's supposed to be Vegeta I don't

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know how you assume that's Vegeta no it

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honestly it makes you wonder if like Mr

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are they trying to hide it or yeah well

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no if you see it and you've never you

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don't know it's Vegeta you wonder is

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that Mr Satan's brother did Mr Satan

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have a son that we didn't know about we

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get introduced to Vegeta in this we

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weird subplot where this these two guys

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are trying to kidnap bra I cannot yeah I

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cannot believe it's like you said by the

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way one shot of bra we get a single shot

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of bra in the first three episodes which

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is nuts to me Vegeta just didn't give

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enough by way that girl is

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technically younger than pun I know

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right but she like looks older maybe

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like I don't know you think do you think

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they pulled like a dragon balls thing

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like Bulma did or it's like I want to

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look 3 years older yeah they have a

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child hither to unmentioned it's like

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yeah whatever go away but yeah yeah like

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you said it's insane that in a show that

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is not based off a manga we have filler

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yeah it's filler they have like the the

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second episode is filler yeah it's

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literally there's literally no purpose

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to that entire suppl it does not fill

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anything out I think what I think it was

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was they were like okay we have Goku as

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a kid we need we need some hygiene with

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him as a kid cuz what happens is they

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end up mistakenly grabbing Goku after

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they mistake pan for bra but then pan

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flies away and they end up hugging Goku

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and he's like hey what's up and then

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they just you know they take him out to

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dinner and you know it's haha Goku ate

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too much for them to spend and they keep

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trying to make Ransom calls for Goku and

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everyone's like it's admittedly kind of

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a fun gag cuz bulma's like oh did he get

13:53

lost tell him to tell him to get over

13:56

here wait no you don't get it click and

13:58

then he calls Vegeta we have your Goku

14:01

my what what yeah you what what why

14:05

would I want him which by the way click

14:07

still weird to hear Vegeta he says Goku

14:10

Goku Goku there's a part of me that just

14:13

wants to be like he literally doesn't

14:14

know what that is just hang up is

14:16

that some kind of food hold on I'm busy

14:19

looking at my

14:21

mustache look I will say this honestly

14:23

it like as far as the filler of this

14:27

admittedly entirely filler series is it

14:30

it was cute at worst they're inoffensive

14:32

at best they're

14:38

[Music]

14:39

funny it's not even about the money

14:42

anymore that it's about the principal

14:43

it's about the principal a kidnapping

14:45

people used to respect the art oh my go

14:48

there's a scene first of all Grandpa

14:50

Satan A+ A+ no notes I am all about him

14:54

being doting Grandpa Satan yeah there's

14:56

this adorable scene with him and sitting

14:59

in a restaurant the waiter comes up he

15:01

sets this massive like ice cream parfit

15:03

in front of pan and a cup of coffee in

15:05

front of Satan and then he just he just

15:07

gets up and grabs the parfait and puts

15:09

the coffee in front of her it's it's

15:11

they they make no note of it it's just

15:13

like that one's supposed to be mine y

15:15

it's cute yeah the fact and and as a man

15:18

who loves his giant parfet I approve of

15:20

this and and the best part is like and

15:22

it's very in character for Pon which by

15:24

the way in the first two episodes I love

15:26

Pon I just do she's she's like I wasn't

15:29

a huge fan of like the oh my date

15:30

abandoned me again by the way weak man

15:32

very weak man who cannot handle a girl

15:34

who can candle armed robbers agreed yeah

15:36

but that being said while I absolutely

15:39

love Pon in those first two episodes

15:42

especially in this scene where she

15:43

drinks the coffee and it's too bitter

15:45

for

15:45

her like it's I love that I love the

15:48

fact that she's trying to be she wants

15:50

to be perceived as more adult than she

15:52

is but she's still a kid

15:57

yeah put a plant in front of it

15:59

something

16:01

yeah honestly those first two episodes

16:04

really nail that version of that part of

16:06

our character

16:08

unfortunately the moment at like at the

16:12

end of episode 2 and all of episode

16:15

three yeah cuz this entire time she's

16:17

like I want to go out into space with

16:18

you guys because uh you know the the

16:21

Black Star Dragon Balls as soon as the

16:22

wish is made uh which admittedly like

16:25

it's a fun gag where P off's like I just

16:27

wish you were TI like I wish you were a

16:29

kid you J you jerk like he's just

16:31

yelling at Goku this whole time it's

16:33

like I wish we could go back I wish you

16:34

could be a kid again so I could like at

16:36

least try and teach you a lesson and the

16:38

dragons massive ass red Shenron

16:41

yeah holy wow Shenron is huge

16:44

looking cool uh looking looking real

16:46

swole there just like all right Goku

16:49

tiny but then King Kai learns in heaven

16:52

oh yeah it's like uh yeah apparently the

16:54

world's going to blow up if you don't

16:56

find those again also they're scattered

16:58

throughout the Galaxy enjoy your

16:59

adventure oh yeah yeah King Kai learns

17:02

this which you mentioned in heaven so

17:04

yeah I guess he like asked around

17:05

there's Heavenly people out there

17:07

there's other guys so he asks around he

17:09

figures out that hey by the way turns

17:12

out if you don't collect those dragon

17:13

balls in the next year um Earth's going

17:16

to blow up yeah any any planet that the

17:19

wish is made on with those Dragon Balls

17:21

goes boom and so yeah they have to get

17:25

in the ship which they have to build a

17:27

ship and Pan's whole thing is I want to

17:30

go too I want to be seen as adult too I

17:32

I want to help I want to help which

17:34

that's great by the way I I just I got a

17:37

note just get the Earth Dragon Balls and

17:39

then wish wish the Black Star Dragon

17:41

Balls to Earth yeah weal we talked about

17:44

that while we were sitting there just

17:48

like wish all the Blackstar dragon balls

17:50

back to Earth just get the real dragon

17:52

balls yeah bing bing boom this is so

17:56

dumb but then you don't have a show I

17:58

know but like then we wouldn't have to

18:01

watch a

18:02

shows I hope we cut to that shot yeah

18:05

yeah no yeah yeah that's why they exist

18:08

but God see new format what do you think

18:11

anyway when pan immediately becomes

18:13

insufferable is when she God they

18:16

literally do the joke we did with Dr

18:17

brief I mean I know this happened before

18:19

but is immediately it immediately

18:22

reminded us when when Videl says Don't

18:26

touch don't touch that one that's the

18:27

start button oh good you've now told her

18:30

how to start the

18:31

ship don't touch the start button that's

18:36

the start

18:38

button don't press the start

18:43

button so Goku and Trunks get on the

18:46

ship goten's going to be joining them

18:49

but before Goten can get on the ship pan

18:51

presses the start button and they blast

18:55

themselves off into space and since pan

18:57

uh in a gag was set up earlier kicked

19:00

the ship out of frustration broke a

19:02

piece off of it they lost a part of

19:04

their ship and they go hurdling off into

19:06

space and pan immediately becomes the

19:09

bitchiest worst character okay yeah and

19:11

two things by the way

19:13

one why did they have to sabotage the

19:17

ship they were already going to have to

19:19

go to a bunch of different planets I I

19:21

don't know I I honestly I thought I

19:23

thought it was kind of a cute gag cuz

19:24

like she kicked the inside of the ship

19:26

and no no it's it's not it's not that

19:28

it's not a cute gag but unfortunately

19:30

you know what it does do it sets up that

19:34

uh they end up on a planet which I am

19:37

okay I literally don't remember this I

19:39

bet you dicks for dollars the planet

19:40

they end up crashing On's got a dragon

19:42

ball on it which is going I mean because

19:44

what happens is and and this is another

19:47

bit of like FR like narrative

19:49

frustration they end up crash landing on

19:50

this planet this Merchant planet of like

19:53

I mean I guess downtrodden people who

19:55

are who immediately who are yeah so uing

19:59

is suffering the

20:01

uh super capitalism yeah clearly they've

20:04

made first contact with other species

20:06

because they don't care that there's a

20:07

bunch of aliens walking around oh yeah

20:09

the moment aliens show up on the planet

20:11

they swarm them and and try to sell them

20:13

things which by the way uh apparently

20:17

they've got this alien money they have

20:19

the currency cuz they were able to pay

20:20

for the stuff that they got and they

20:21

were able to get like a hotel room and

20:24

like assumedly pay for the they

20:26

racked up in there like it's it's it's

20:28

like super capitalism is basically the

20:30

joke of the planet yes like that's the

20:32

entire joke wait hold on so what's the

20:35

how do they have the money how did they

20:37

pay I'm so confused where did you get

20:39

the money

20:40

[Music]

20:47

robbery jokes on them Goku could

20:49

probably get his money's worth He

20:51

bankrupts the entire Place eats the

20:53

entire economy

20:55

[Music]

20:57

dry

21:01

all right well they have 10 minutes to

21:02

resolve

21:05

this that'll do yeah hell yeah yeah

21:09

I hear your capitalism is pretty strong

21:12

but are they as strong as my fist you

21:14

cannot defend against Goku's communist

21:17

fists H and also there's a dictator that

21:20

Goku is going to go beat up yes but they

21:22

also meet giru who eats the dragon radar

21:24

yeah which you know that that makes

21:27

sense like like like robot on the planet

21:29

and eats technology to reforge itself I

21:32

I can buy it and you need a mascot

21:34

character honestly like guu as like G's

21:37

design G's like part in the plot I I

21:40

remember not hating even though he's

21:42

kind of like one of those he does feel

21:44

like a mascot he is a mascot character

21:46

he's AB I mean he shows up in the uh

21:49

what do you call it like the little in

21:51

like the cut to ad break little

21:54

stitchins yeah and before he's in the

21:57

show it's like I'm imagine that Japanese

21:58

audience being like who that but so

22:02

I it's like we said pan in those first

22:05

two episodes they set her up to be real

22:08

cool and then she in immediately in

22:10

episode three she's the worst she is

22:12

immediately being really whining about

22:15

everything it's like Grandpa this is

22:16

your fault like you stowed away

22:18

yeah and Goku even says it yeah that

22:20

entire segment where she's blaming Goku

22:23

her like trying to clean up around the

22:25

ship and inconveniencing them just

22:27

basically whining about everything and

22:31

it and and like yo why why it makes you

22:35

look back at what they did in superhero

22:38

and be like man that's that's right that

22:40

is the correct way of doing this that

22:42

see it's sort of interesting because at

22:44

the very beginning of GT I was like you

22:46

know what this does sort of feel like

22:48

like an older version of that pun that's

22:51

why I was into it I was like yeah she

22:53

wants to be an adult and she is strong

22:56

and she seems like and she seems kind of

22:59

how do I put this like I I really hope

23:01

they come back around to it I I doubt

23:04

that they do but I hope they bring it

23:06

around somewhere like I hope there's a

23:08

character Arc to this yeah it's just it

23:10

kind of felt like they were honestly and

23:12

I know this kind of sounds dumb but it

23:14

seemed like they were trying to make a

23:16

Goku 2.0 in the superhero movie um but

23:20

have her be kind of smart like one like

23:23

honestly a mixture of Goku and Gohan

23:25

could be a fantastic character through

23:27

Pon but in this

23:28

instead we just kind of get a oh man I'm

23:32

not looking forward to the next couple

23:33

episodes with Pon because I know that

23:35

she gets worse I remember that she just

23:37

sort of gets worse in the next couple of

23:39

episodes as somebody that like you know

23:41

was exposed to the FUNimation dub like I

23:43

I remember like a few things I remember

23:45

the par para Brothers I remember General

23:48

dildo I remember uh baby I remember

23:51

Super 17 and Piccolo being trapped in

23:55

hell and uh

23:59

the shadow dragons yeah I remember a lot

24:01

of things but there are funner details

24:03

that I have kind of like lost over the

24:06

years yeah pan is one of those

24:07

characters that turned into a background

24:09

character for me that I I have like

24:11

little to no recollection of and I feel

24:14

like that bodess poorly because yes

24:17

because after after like the first half

24:20

of the series basically it just becomes

24:22

the Goku show again yeah it does and

24:24

it's which I get it he's your most

24:27

marketable character she sticks around

24:29

she's still prominent throughout the

24:31

shadow dragon stuff she's still there

24:33

yeah but it's the Goku show yeah because

24:35

he's got to get his win back brother

24:37

Jack because like the initial idea with

24:39

Dragon Ball GT was age them all like age

24:41

Goku down pair him with Trunks and Pon

24:45

so Pon can kind of be on the same level

24:48

as Goku but yeah no that doesn't that

24:52

just doesn't last and trumps was like

24:55

was he a popular character in Japan like

24:57

throughout the cell I'm going to assume

24:59

he was he he must have been like he he

25:01

was he was a huge fan favorite here in

25:03

America despite the fact that he

25:04

literally up everything he did

25:06

yeah but the this trunks is not any

25:10

character really it's kind of ridiculous

25:12

like the first thing we see of trunks

25:14

he's wearing this gross kind of like

25:16

vomit suit which I don't think

25:18

necessarily looks that bad compared to

25:20

everything else in the show but uh all

25:23

the girls are faing on him like d dude

25:25

could slay if he's like you know looking

25:28

for pulls dud pull he absolutely pull uh

25:31

but he's the president of capsule Corp

25:34

apparently at this point he's why would

25:36

he ever see he he hates the job he

25:40

hates it I don't know if like

25:41

his mom is making him do it or what but

25:44

he show he goes up to his office there's

25:46

paperwork slammed on his desk and he

25:48

just pieces the out they have this

25:50

they have this little mini window that's

25:52

on the floor like what is this thing

25:54

it's like 3T tall and and it's like at

25:57

Ground

25:59

yeah it's just it's walks over to it

26:01

just yeah just like zooms out which

26:04

apparently he does this a lot yeah cuz

26:06

his like hot assistant's like G that

26:08

jerk left again yeah

26:13

which this trunks isn't a character this

26:16

trunks is like the most milk toast

26:19

trunks that there's ever been he's the

26:21

trunks that had this he's a trunks

26:23

that's known very little hardship and

26:25

also like he's not as cool as uh as

26:28

original Future Trunks he's not as like

26:31

cheeky or as mischievous as he was as

26:34

kid trunks now he's just a dude and that

26:39

I feel like that's just going to be his

26:41

character moving forward which okay look

26:43

I get it they're basically a monai trio

26:45

in a way they need a straight man so

26:47

they can have like oh you know the the

26:49

rambunctious girl and and the and the

26:51

stupid boy and like he's the dad to the

26:53

like basically playing the Father Figure

26:55

to the both of them trying to keep

26:56

things from going too far off the he's

26:58

the responsible one yeah which cool all

27:02

right but why in the world would you

27:05

choose trunks for that you know who

27:08

would have been great Piccolo I

27:11

wholeheartedly agree oh yeah okay yes

27:16

having Piccolo there in like first of

27:18

all cool now you have a character like

27:20

who's very different and he's very

27:22

serious yeah like he he he puts up with

27:24

no he's not in the show for

27:27

forever and let me tell you next time he

27:29

shows up is the worst I I believe you

27:33

because I only remember the part of him

27:35

going to hell yeah is that the next time

27:37

he shows up oh no so yeah look the

27:42

reason we want to watch through all of

27:44

GT and I know that we've kind of been

27:46

all over the place in this we didn't

27:47

exactly go structured I promise it'll

27:49

probably be more Str it'll be a bit more

27:50

structured moving forward but this being

27:52

the first one it's it's it's hard not to

27:54

go from like where where we were when we

27:56

first saw it what we knew then and what

27:58

we're dealing with now I'm watching

28:00

episodes that I've never seen yeah and

28:02

we just came we literally watched it and

28:05

then sat down to do this yeah the

28:07

visuals for the closings are

28:09

stupendous like just gorgeous shot after

28:12

gorgeous shot like the opening look

28:14

great yeah like honestly it makes me

28:16

really sad because the openings the

28:18

opening and the endings are all bangers

28:21

phenomenal like the every single ending

28:24

is better than every ending that Dragon

28:26

Ball has ever had except for forano so

28:29

this is all fresh in our minds just

28:31

buing around yeah I I I've never seen

28:33

these episodes I've seen parts of these

28:35

episodes cuz I remember Goku being

28:37

turned into a tiny boy I remember them

28:39

building a spaceship I remember pan

28:40

launching it before they could but I

28:42

don't remember anything about capitalism

28:44

planet and that's a two-parter i it's

28:47

more than a two-parter Jesus

28:51

um sit tight for the next couple of

28:53

episodes cuz it it's about to get weird

28:55

and wild uh but yeah we wanted to do

28:58

this because again we spent a lot of

29:01

time talking about GT in the past

29:03

on GT yeah um talking about how

29:05

it's a lot of NE ideas done poorly you

29:08

can see you can see any of our DB sers

29:10

where we even mention GT which is few

29:13

and far between admittedly but this is

29:16

again like I said this is the first time

29:19

as as somebody who honestly when I was

29:23

younger I would not trust my opinion on

29:25

most things that's why I'm looking

29:27

forward to it as as an adult being able

29:28

to look at it much more objectively yeah

29:31

I I I will say I'm looking at this from

29:33

the lens of like I know if I was

29:35

watching this as a teen who had or a

29:37

pre-teen I guess I can't

29:39

remember uh who had just finished

29:41

watching Z I know watching a bunch of

29:44

this would been like this

29:45

what's happening I want to watch you you

29:47

hockey show now you never saw the

29:49

original trailer they put out did you

29:51

probably not funimation's original

29:53

trailer is sorry guys but spicy

30:00

[Music]

30:15

The Grand Tour grand grand tour and it's

30:18

like and that's how they introduced

30:20

their version by saying hey the old one

30:23

sucks watch our version with cool rap

30:26

and awful background music it's it's

30:29

like that though that's like we we

30:31

talked about this it's it's the it's

30:34

Charming bad it is charm at this point

30:36

at this point it's Charming bad back

30:38

then I'm guessing it was just bad but

30:40

yeah well looking at it through that

30:41

lens now it is incredible to watch what

30:44

they were trying desperately to do with

30:47

Dragon Ball GT the the background score

30:50

is done by Mark menah the guy who did

30:52

the music for the either the Jimmy

30:55

Neutron movie or show I think it was the

30:58

movie Son let me tell you a little bit

31:00

about Rockets they're big people things

31:03

son you you just can't go around playing

31:07

with big people fiery flying uh things

31:12

because that's what Rockets are and it

31:14

is nothing it is not a score it is

31:16

somebody on a guitar just kind of

31:19

ripping through the episode it's very

31:22

unbelievably boring yeah cuz we went

31:25

back and we watched uh we literally

31:27

watched episode one twice in a row in

31:30

Japanese and then dubbed so uh do I have

31:33

to go back to school now you never went

31:35

to

31:36

school yeah good oh God he watched he

31:39

watched Evolution oh no and uh while I I

31:42

don't have the same hatred for some of

31:45

the performances that you do in the

31:47

English dub Again part of why I have any

31:50

fond memories of GT is some of those

31:51

like dubb isms some of the odd

31:54

readings some of the like weird

31:58

uh but the music is admittedly much

32:01

better in the Japanese I know I've been

32:06

kind of shitty about the falconer team

32:07

score but I think I have also over the

32:10

last several years shown that there's I

32:12

have much appreciation for its best

32:13

stuff like the vulcano's team put

32:16

together some really good music there's

32:18

some of it that really hits cell's theme

32:21

specifically the perfect one Gohan's

32:23

anger which you know that's Gohan angers

32:25

is good it's like there's there's good I

32:28

have a I have a deep appreciation for

32:30

Hell's Bells yes yes there's none of

32:33

that in the GT dub score not a little

32:35

bit there's nothing there there's

32:38

there's nothing it's like Nathan

32:40

Johnson's score although even Nathan

32:42

Johnson's score has like uh some love by

32:46

the way that's the score that they did

32:47

for the uncut uh Original saan season

32:50

like back when they were uh I I would

32:52

have absolutely no memory of this Nathan

32:54

Johnson is uh our attorney general he I

32:58

can't remember he's like yeah no no he I

33:01

can't remember what he's he went from

33:03

making the score but he's in public

33:05

office now yeah he's in public office

33:06

now it's nuts even that score I would

33:09

rather listen to than this it is so

33:12

boring and so that's why like that's why

33:15

I had to be like no guy we can't watch

33:18

the dub I want to try and like GT I

33:22

understand I I understand but it it'll

33:24

be interesting moving forward we're

33:26

going to we're going to keep taking like

33:27

little bits and pieces looks at this uh

33:31

in this odd little retrospective

33:35

I I don't know man this is it's it's

33:39

different it's different hey so like

33:41

this is exciting because genuinely I

33:44

can't wait for you to see the crazy

33:47

weird that they do in this this

33:49

is the this is the part that I'm kind of

33:50

looking forward to the most the like the

33:51

actual Adventure monster of the week

33:54

what the before it becomes

33:56

Dragon Ball Z but worse

33:59

yeah yeah know it's uh I'm sorry I know

34:03

it kind of sounds like I'm setting

34:04

myself up for failure I know there's a

34:06

lot of people back at home who are big

34:07

GT fans who are actually looking forward

34:10

to us giving it a chance and I promise I

34:12

promise I am hey I'm I'm already

34:15

speaking the Praises of the things that

34:16

I enjoy yeah I mean again I lik to those

34:18

first two episodes I there were a lot of

34:20

jokes that actually worked for me we're

34:22

going to keep watching I'm going to keep

34:24

I'm going to keep having an open mind

34:26

I'm going to uh enjoy seeing your

34:28

response to some of these things as well

34:30

like and yeah I hope that you join us

34:34

for more episodes of this because I'm

34:36

excited so we'll catch you guys next

34:38

time on

34:41

gtfs oh God I hate

34:44

it oh this is why I do outros

34:56

oh

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