Warriors defeat LeBron, Lakers & Giannis suffers injury in win vs Celtics | NBA | FIRST THINGS FIRST

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10 Apr 202421:38

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses the impact of Giannis Antetokounmpo's injury on the Milwaukee Bucks' playoff prospects, comparing it to past injuries of other NBA stars. It also debates the responsibility of the coach and the team's performance, mentioning the Lakers' struggles despite having LeBron James and Anthony Davis. The conversation highlights the unpredictability of sports and the importance of both individual and team performance in determining success.

Takeaways

  • 🏀 Giannis' injury and its impact on the Bucks' playoff chances is a significant concern, with potential absence ranging from 10 days to 3 weeks.
  • đŸ€• Comparisons to past injuries of similar nature, such as those experienced by Damian Lillard and Luka Doncic, indicate variable recovery times and effects on performance.
  • 🏆 The importance of Giannis' health for the Bucks' title defense cannot be overstated, as his potential absence could drastically change their postseason trajectory.
  • đŸ€” The uncertainty surrounding the severity of Giannis' injury and the potential for a quick recovery, drawing parallels to other athletes' experiences, leaves room for optimism but also concern.
  • đŸƒâ€â™‚ïž The possibility of Giannis' return in time for the playoffs, though not at full strength, could still pose challenges for potential opponents.
  • đŸ€·â€â™‚ïž The discussion around LeBron James' current impact on the Lakers, despite his impressive stats, raises questions about the team's overall performance and championship contention.
  • 🏆 The Lakers' struggles, despite having two top-tier players in LeBron and Anthony Davis, highlight the complexities involved in building a successful team.
  • đŸ€” Coaching decisions, such as lineup choices by Darvin Ham, are scrutinized in the context of the Lakers' performance, with some questioning their effectiveness.
  • 🏀 The Golden State Warriors' impressive shooting performance, marking a potential turning point for the team's playoff aspirations.
  • 🎯 The Warriors' recent record and the potential for a deep playoff run, contingent on maintaining their current form and health of key players.
  • đŸ€·â€â™‚ïž The unpredictability of the NBA season, with various factors such as injuries, coaching decisions, and team dynamics playing crucial roles in determining success.

Q & A

  • What was the main concern discussed about Giannis after he went down in warm-ups?

    -The main concern was that Giannis suffered a non-contact injury which could potentially keep him out of the games for at least 14 days and possibly restrict his minutes if he returns during the playoffs.

  • Who were some players mentioned as having had similar injuries to Giannis?

    -Damien Lillard and Luka Doncic were mentioned as having suffered similar injuries, with Lillard missing seven games and Doncic missing the first three playoff games.

  • What was the speculation about Giannis's potential recovery time?

    -The speculation was that Giannis could be out for as little as 10 days or as long as three weeks or more, depending on the severity of the injury.

  • What was the impact of Giannis's injury on the Bucks' playoff chances?

    -The Bucks' playoff chances could be negatively affected as Giannis's absence might put them at a disadvantage, especially if they face strong teams like Philadelphia or Miami in the first round.

  • What historical example was given to illustrate a possible optimistic outcome for Giannis's injury?

    -The example of Dominique Wilkins, who blew every ligament in his knee but still played the next game and was the most dominant player on both ends of the court, was given as an optimistic outcome.

  • What was the significance of the Lakers' loss in the context of their playoff chances?

    -The Lakers' loss was significant because it meant they no longer controlled their own destiny for making it to the playoffs, as they now had to hope to avoid ending up in the 10th seed.

  • What was the criticism about Darvin Ham's coaching decision in the game against the Warriors?

    -The criticism was that Darvin Ham chose to use a lineup that had never played together before, which was seen as a risky move in a crucial game situation.

  • What was the overall assessment of LeBron James's impact on the Lakers' performance?

    -While LeBron James is still considered one of the top players in the league, it was suggested that he is not impacting games as he used to, particularly on the defensive end.

  • What was the discussion about the Warriors' performance in the game against the Lakers?

    -The Warriors had an exceptional shooting night, with key players like Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, and Draymond Green all hitting five three-pointers each, which is a rare occurrence.

  • How has the Warriors' performance been since January 28th?

    -Since January 28th, the Warriors have the fourth-best record in the league, with a 25-11 record over a two and a half month stretch, indicating a strong performance.

  • What was the general sentiment towards the Warriors' playoff chances?

    -While the Warriors are not seen as the favorites to win the Western Conference, their recent performance has raised their ceiling, with some suggesting they could reach the Conference Finals if they maintain their current form.

Outlines

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🏀 Giannis' Injury and Playoff Implications

The paragraph discusses the impact of Giannis Antetokounmpo's injury on the Milwaukee Bucks' playoff prospects. It highlights the initial reactions to the injury, comparisons to past incidents with other players like Damian Lillard and Luka Dončić, and the potential timeline for Giannis' recovery. The conversation also touches on the importance of Giannis to the Bucks' success and the challenges the team may face in the playoffs without him, considering past performances and the competition in the Eastern Conference.

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đŸ€” Lakers' Season Challenges and Coaching Decisions

This paragraph delves into the Los Angeles Lakers' struggles and the role of coaching decisions in their performance. It critiques specific lineup choices made by Coach Darvin Ham, particularly in a crucial game against the Golden State Warriors. The discussion also explores LeBron James' impact on the team, comparing his current performance to past years, and questions whether the Lakers are underperforming given their roster, which includes two top-tier players in LeBron and Anthony Davis.

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📉 Assessing the Warriors' Recent Success

The focus of this paragraph is on the Golden State Warriors' recent form, particularly their impressive shooting performance. It debates whether a single outstanding game should significantly alter the perception of the team's potential. The conversation highlights the Warriors' fourth-best record since January 28th and the contributions of various players, including Stephen Curry, Draymond Green, and role players. The paragraph also discusses the team's rebounding strengths and their potential as a dangerous contender in the playoffs.

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Keywords

💡Giannis

Giannis Antetokounmpo, a professional basketball player for the Milwaukee Bucks, is a central figure in this discussion. His injury and its potential impact on the team's performance in the playoffs are a major theme. The script mentions his injury history and how it compares to other players, indicating the significance of his role and the concern over his availability for upcoming games.

💡Injury

Injuries in sports, particularly in basketball, can significantly affect a team's performance. In this context, the term 'injury' refers to the physical setbacks faced by players, which can lead to their absence from games. The discussion revolves around the severity of Giannis' injury, its potential impact on the Bucks' playoff chances, and how it compares to past injuries sustained by other athletes.

💡Playoffs

The playoffs in basketball are the postseason tournament where teams compete to advance through a series of elimination rounds, culminating in the championship game. In this script, the term 'playoffs' is used to discuss the importance of player health and team performance during the critical end-of-season games, especially in relation to Giannis' injury and the Bucks' prospects.

💡Coaching

Coaching in the context of this script refers to the strategies, decisions, and management of a basketball team by its coaching staff. It is a crucial element in the success or failure of a team, as coaches make decisions on player rotations, tactics, and game management. The discussion includes criticism of the Lakers' coach, Darvin Ham, and his decisions that may have affected the team's performance.

💡Roster

A roster in sports refers to the list of players on a team. It is important because it represents the pool of talent available to the coaching staff. The composition of a roster can determine the team's strengths and weaknesses. In this script, the roster is discussed in relation to the Lakers' performance and the potential impact of injuries on the team's ability to compete.

💡Performance

Performance in sports refers to how well athletes or teams are playing in their games. It can be measured by wins, statistics, or overall impact on the game. In this script, performance is a key topic as it is used to evaluate the success of the Bucks without Giannis and the Lakers under Coach Darvin Ham.

💡Conference Finals

The Conference Finals are the third round of the NBA playoffs, where the top teams from each conference compete for a spot in the NBA Finals. This term is used in the script to discuss the potential progression of teams like the Milwaukee Bucks and the Denver Nuggets, and to speculate on their chances of reaching this high level of the postseason.

💡Three-Pointers

A three-pointer in basketball is a shot taken from beyond the three-point line, with successful shots earning the shooting team three points. The script discusses the significance of three-pointers, particularly in the context of the Warriors' historic shooting performance, and how it can influence the outcome of games.

💡Team Chemistry

Team chemistry refers to the interpersonal relationships and cooperative dynamics among players on a sports team. It is an intangible factor that can significantly affect performance on the court. In the script, the concept is discussed in relation to the Lakers' roster decisions and how they might be impacting the team's overall performance.

💡Injury Recovery

Injury recovery refers to the process of healing and rehabilitation that athletes undergo after sustaining an injury, with the goal of returning to their sport at full capacity. In the context of the script, the focus is on the recovery timeline for Giannis and how it could affect the Milwaukee Bucks' playoff run.

Highlights

Discussion on Giannis Antetokounmpo's injury and its potential impact on the Milwaukee Bucks' playoff chances.

Comparison of Giannis' injury to past incidents involving other NBA players like Damien Lillard and Luka Doncic.

Speculation on the possible duration of Giannis' absence and its implications for the Bucks' playoff performance.

Analysis of the Bucks' season, including challenges faced such as coaching changes and team dynamics.

Reflection on the 2022 postseason and the Bucks' championship defense.

Discussion on the Golden State Warriors' performance and their potential in the upcoming playoffs.

Examination of the Lakers' season, focusing on the performance of LeBron James and Anthony Davis.

Critique of Lakers' coach Darvin Ham's decision-making and its impact on the team's performance.

Debate on whether LeBron James is still able to impact games as he used to, particularly on the defensive end.

Consideration of the Warriors' roster and their rebounding capabilities, positioning them as a dangerous team in the playoffs.

Discussion on the importance of coaching decisions in critical moments of games, using the Lakers' game strategy as an example.

Analysis of the Warriors' shooting performance, noting it as one of the best in NBA history.

Reflection on the unpredictability of the NBA playoffs and the potential for underdog teams to excel.

Discussion on the potential impact of the Warriors' game on the Lakers' playoff positioning and their chances against Golden State.

Critique of the Lakers' draft choices and the potential missed opportunities in selecting certain players.

Analysis of the Warriors' overall team performance since January, highlighting their improved record and potential playoff ceiling.

Debate on the influence of single games on overall team evaluations and the importance of consistency.

Transcripts

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wow you are back in a big way back baby

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oh my goodness live from New York it's

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the show that's still recovering from

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eating several cookies yesterday brw how

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are you feeling I I did have a Sugar

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Rush After the Show I had a headache for

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a good hour or two after the show it's

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first things first today return to the

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court is TBD your reaction well well

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first of all I think an apology is in

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order not for me well this is not I know

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it's not about you but it's just fake

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cuz you said you March 4th when Giannis

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went down in

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warm-ups you said he was writhing in

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pain and that it was something to be

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concerned about and Nick mocked you no

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you Nick destroyed I just said it's not

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writhing I said it's wincing and you

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then conceded that you used the wrong

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it's wincing but this is the same Cal

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non- contct injury and unfortunately I I

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take no pleasure out of this it's like a

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character in a movie who can see the

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future like I don't want to look I don't

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want to be right about this yeah but

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this is terrifying it's going to be at

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least 14 days out and even then he's got

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to be minutes restriction I think you've

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got to be P the playoffs start yeah cuz

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D Damien Lillard had the same injury

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last year now there's degrees obviously

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but he missed he was out for seven games

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about two weeks and Luka if you remember

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had this injury in game

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82 two years ago and just and missed the

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first three playoff games so he had

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injur Jun right the jayen the year they

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made the Conference Finals and so now

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Durant had this same injury was out much

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longer and then when he came back

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towards Achilles so that's yeah his

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obviously was probably a different right

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but that's my point is I don't know we

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know what grade so I think anywhere from

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and I'll let you finish but I think

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anywhere from him being out the next 10

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days and him being out the next three

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plus weeks is on is on the board and I

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don't think there's any way to know it

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right now well the playoffs start April

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20th and 21st yep so that's two weeks

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away not three weeks away yeah just this

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is obviously a problem and unfortun look

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I hate to say this but doc has kind of

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been looking for an excuse he has a real

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one now unfortun oh my goodness I can't

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believe that unfortunately he like now

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and who else has a real a real parachute

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shoot also oh just tell you I don't even

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need olive branch your star player goes

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down you're a pi free agent that happens

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but go ahead

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but at hopefully this is not the case I

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mean thankfully it's not an Achilles

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tear but is the best case scenario or I

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should say the more realistic scenario

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that is similar to last year's playoffs

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when he had to miss two games in the

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first round against Miami right and they

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they went one in one of those games but

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they obviously lost the series four to

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one and he didn't look like himself came

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back so so even if he's able to play in

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the first round if he's not himself they

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could be in trouble and look if they get

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Philly at especially now they're the

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underdog if they get Miami they might be

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the underdog just because no well with

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Giannis kind of we don't know what he's

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going to look like well if if they they

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C wouldn't be a Vegas Underdog

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unless

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Yannis and if Giannis were ruled out for

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the series they might be the Vegas if

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he's if he's out for the series they're

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going down but if he misses even a

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couple of games Miami has a great chance

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and then look and you talked about this

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Indiana and I get it that the regular

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season doesn't always you know happen in

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the postseason but Indiana's beaten him

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four out of five games this season and

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that's when Milwaukee was playing better

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basketball so it's unfortun it but all

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right let me let me paint one optimistic

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picture in regards to Giannis not in

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regards to how the Bucks play anything

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like that I watched this

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player I'm

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certain blow every ligament in his knee

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and play the next game I watched it

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happen and I know that sounds ridiculous

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I'm telling you guys when I saw that

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happen I'm like oh no Giannis is out a

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year and he was slightly hampered game

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one of the finals and then the next five

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games averaged 37 a night and was the

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most dominant player on both ends so

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there is a level of where and I I

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understand that LeBron LeBron never

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really dealt with calf issues uh but we

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saw LeBron in his prime it's like oh

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he's out a month with an ankle sprain

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and not miss a playoff game and so I say

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that to say this level of freak athlete

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which I actually don't consider consider

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Kevin Durant in that regard because

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Durant's body is not the way giannis's

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is and it's not the where you know the I

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don't look at it the same way I I'm not

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going to say it's off the table that he

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recovers from this differently than Luca

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donic who's not the same athlete then

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Damen Lillard that all of it so that is

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the hopefully you're right right and I'm

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not predicting it I'm just saying it's

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all the there is a full menu of options

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here that's the optimistic side the

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pessimistic side is this is last stroke

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in a season from Hell correct I was

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about to say that where you where you

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you fire your coach who you won a

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championships quits right no but no I'm

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saying you fire hter you fire bud before

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the year even gets going Terry stots who

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was kind of the experienced voice that

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you were going to have along with a

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rookie head coach he doesn't make it to

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game one because of a conflict with

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Adrien Griffin you then give Adrien

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Griffin the David blat treatment which

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is don't care that you're in line to

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coach the All-Star game we don't think

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you're the right coach you bring in Doc

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your disaster since then the weird stuff

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you've talked about dating back to the

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Pacers game ball and all of it Dame's

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sadness and now right before the playoff

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start you the dreaded non- contct ah

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what just happen happened and so I can I

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add one other thing before we move on

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and this is just the way my brain works

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where I always like I play a lot of what

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if games with sports but this is why you

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missed

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opportunities you don't always realize

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in the moment how significant they are

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but the 2022 postseason when the Bucks

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are the defending champs and the Bucks

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are up 3-2 on Boston and the Bucks we

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now know on the western side of that

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bracket the warriors were going to get

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through and I to this day I do not I

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will go to my grave believing the

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Warriors would not have been able to

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deal with Giannis in that series ever

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and Jason Tatum has the game of his life

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in game six and Grant Williams and

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Company hit a million threes in game

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seven and the title defense is over and

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it's like oh man well you know what it's

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hard to win back to back then the next

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year Giannis Herz is back and you're out

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in round one then the next year all this

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weird stuff happens and you make a trade

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you fire your coach and it's like wait

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what could have been giannis's run is

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I'm not saying see I don't view it as a

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missed opportunity I blew it as they

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weren't good enough I mean Boston beat

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them like it wasn't oh the Bucks g you

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know they didn't play well they gave it

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up to the Boston beat him and we've seen

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this Milwaukee team struggle in the

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postseason and lose series to Miami that

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you figured and they would Miami next

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round right and so I just I I hear you

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no I agree with you but in this one I'm

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not saying they got thought they would

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have been maybe I'm not saying they got

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unlucky you're right Boston was better

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Boston was down 3-2 their best player

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had the game of his life up to that

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point that's what sports is about but in

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the moment if we have said hey Milwaukee

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is not even going to be back in round

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two for another 3 years we just said

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You' just said impossible but now it

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feels very possible pending his injury

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steps next thing you know he's playing

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at Madison Square Garden well who knows

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meanwhile in La the Warriors or the bay

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shot the lights out and rolled an ad Le

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Lakers Squad LeBron had 33 three but it

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wasn't enough traffic jam in the par in

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the playin Phoenix Sacramento LA and

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Golden State all within two games of

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each other and I tried to figure out the

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tiebreakers and I read an article and I

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was going to explain it here and my

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brain short circuited uh Nick perhaps

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you can do a better job how devastating

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was this for the Lakers it's the biggest

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game of the

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year and now they had they won last

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night they would essentially control

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their own destiny to the 78 line because

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of the loss last night they now have to

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hope against hope they don't end up the

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10 seat you know what I mean cuz they

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don't don't even control their own

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destiny as far as not being the 10 right

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uh and here's the thing this loss though

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the the ramifications were going to be

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super significant but it should be

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theoretically easy to understand well

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Anthony Davis wasn't there and the

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Warriors had literally the best shooting

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night in the history of the NBA yeah the

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no team has ever shot 40 or more threes

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at a better percentage it's never

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happened Draymond Stephen Clay all hit 5

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threes in a game that hasn't happened

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since the 73- win season you should be

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able to chalk it up to that but the

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reason I can't and the reason I was

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angry tweeting which I promised America

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I was going to try to do less of the

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reason is because despite all of it the

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Lakers had a chance in this game and

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then Darvin ham rolled out for the first

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time brw I knew you hold on this is

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going to make me mad well well hold on

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wait I here's the thing on this let me

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show you the lineup and then let me ask

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you whose fault it is because let me

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show you the lineup that he rolled out

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there these five guys who had played

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going into the end of the third quarter

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last night let me check watch zero

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minutes together and you know why

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because that's an absurd it's it's it's

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it's DLo a worst version of DLo and den

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witty a worst version of den den witty

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and Gabe Vincent and then torian Prince

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and Jackson Hayes that that lineup and

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they let go with the rope and the game's

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over the game was over in three minutes

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and I know you think I'm too hard on

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Darin ham but here's my question to you

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brew ad's been excellent and healthy

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LeBron's been excellent and healthy you

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like the roster I don't but you do okay

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so why aren't they better other than the

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coach playing as well as his numbers

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suggest he doesn't impact the game he

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was great last night yeah he couldn't

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impact the game we saw it against Denver

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great couldn't impact the game M so you

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do so you agree with wilds then that no

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I'm not saying he's the problem I mean

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wild says he's the problem I'm I'm just

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saying the numbers are giving you the

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impression cuz if you got a guy put up

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the the numbers say he's as good as ever

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no I know he's not that nobody's saying

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that but do you think and he doesn't

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dominate games anymore not not regularly

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I get that which is why they're not a

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champion Contender but that's not the

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problem here my question is this the

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Lakers have is Anthony I'm just saying

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with LeBron and you know how much I love

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LeBron but I'm tired of every time his

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team doesn't win a championship or get

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close it's somebody else's fault but

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hold on a second it's always the coach's

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fault or the teammates fault it's not

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but right so I he's not to blame but I'm

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just saying they're not as good as as

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people think hold on but wait but so

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this is wa this is the the the

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discrepancy here I agree with you that

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LeBron is not able to carry a team

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obviously to Championship contention by

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himself nobody he ain't even being asked

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to do it by himself he's got Anthony

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Davis okay so but here's my question

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if we will just go as conservative as

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possible Anthony Davis is one of the 15

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best players in the league and LeBron's

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one of the 20 best players in the league

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okay be as conservative as possible

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meaning cons very conservative right so

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why e so if I just say LeBron's the 18th

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best player in the league I think he's

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probably closer to eth call him 18th why

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is the team not better if you have it's

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on the players man I'm I mean again and

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I'm not trying to defend Darin ham I'm

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just saying if it's not inam it's Luke

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Walton it's Frank vogle who has a

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championship by the way play the game

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all right just go out there and I mean

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we can look at any coach Steve Kerr was

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it his fault was he all of a sudden a

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bad coach when the warriors were

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struggling some people were throwing out

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Steve CT like oh he ain't doing a good

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job no it's I'm just saying no but Steve

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CT is a resume of a good job what I

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guess here's my thing what evidence do

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we have dervingham well last year they

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got to the Western Conference Finals

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above and nobody expected him to you

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thought how about that so you think so

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I'm not saying he was working magic but

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I think he did a fine job okay so I so

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if the the the the issue I have is if we

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all think Anthony Davis is playing great

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which I think he's playing great playing

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excellent and it's a after playing 98 of

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100 games it's B it's unfortunate he

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gets elow in the face and misses the

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game LeBron is I I had Josh the same

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thing you did Wilds cuz I I'm on to all

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your Wilds dirty tricks Wilds tried the

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other day to have I we had Josh do the

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same exp uh research but for different

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ends which was is there any number we

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can point to that says actually LeBron's

13:37

hurting the Lakers and the answer the

13:39

answer is no nobody is somebody saying

13:41

he's hurting the Lakers are you saying

13:43

he's hurting the Lakers I'm not saying

13:44

he's hurting the Lakers but trying to

13:47

find the culprit on why this team which

13:51

is excellent and has two Allstars into

13:53

two top 20 guys

13:57

conservatively top 13 guys guys you know

14:00

optimistically is sitting at the 10 and

14:02

fighting for their lives right here's

14:04

what I'll say LeBron is skilled enough

14:07

especially with adding a three-point

14:09

shot and smart enough in an NBA where

14:12

it's darn near impossible to really

14:14

defend with the floor so spread he knows

14:16

how to get his numbers he's smart enough

14:19

to do that but he's not impacting the

14:22

game even close to the way he used to

14:25

because part in part because he used to

14:27

be a terrific Defender and now he

14:29

doesn't do much at all on that end of

14:30

the floor occasionally here or there but

14:33

that's that's a I'm saying that it looks

14:36

like LeBron like I saying he's not as

14:37

playing as well as his numbers suggest

14:39

that two 25 Point scores and one of them

14:43

is a great defender you think they'd be

14:44

better no so I agree with you that if

14:47

you can't just pull up LeBron's stats

14:50

this year and compare him to LeBron

14:51

stats in 2012 and be like look same guy

14:54

I to even though he's a better

14:56

three-point shooter now than I totally

14:58

agree with that but that but the drop

15:01

shouldn't in th those years of LeBron

15:04

the team's the one or the two we're now

15:06

talking about them being the but they

15:07

also were in the weaker Eastern sure but

15:09

the number of wins it's a massive drop

15:12

Anthony Davis has been excellent Y and

15:14

there and I know you think that I'm

15:16

being too hard on Darin ham I know this

15:19

that everyone was shocked that torian

15:22

Prince and not ruy was in the starting

15:24

line of start the year I know that the

15:26

people who cover the team the the

15:28

whether the local media the local

15:30

bloggers were beside themselves about it

15:32

there was even an article written about

15:34

how Darin took from his time in

15:36

Milwaukee like the blueprint and looks

15:38

at Toran as his Chris Middleton and this

15:40

team started tan Prince for 49 games

15:43

with 24 and 25 they then finally went to

15:46

the lineup that took them to the Western

15:48

Conference finals and they're 21- 10

15:51

since then I know that last night you

15:54

have a lineup in the biggest game of the

15:56

year in the second half in a seven-point

15:58

game

16:00

why would you ever say hey a lineup that

16:02

literally has never played together

16:04

let's try it out now that's coaching

16:07

that's fair that's coaching and so but

16:08

it's still a seven-point game and Golden

16:11

State still shot the lights out right

16:14

but they had already done so we can't

16:15

say they would have won that game had he

16:17

not put that line no what I what I am

16:20

saying is is that you had got despite

16:24

Draymond had hit five threes in the

16:25

first half that you had gotten through

16:28

the real mck mck's the wrong word the

16:31

assault you weathered the storm and you

16:34

were there in the biggest moment of the

16:37

season and it is just to me objectively

16:40

true that in that moment is not the time

16:43

do you agree with this not the time to

16:45

try a lineup that's never I agree with

16:47

that my my point is just that every time

16:50

they lose it's the coach's fault but

16:51

when they're rolling you've been

16:53

spouting about how they've been one of

16:54

the best teams in the league for the

16:56

last three months all right well was dar

16:59

terrible then well no I think overall

17:01

for this season I think Darin ham has

17:03

caused more harm than good I think the

17:06

obsession with Toran prince who I like

17:07

as a person but at this point is one of

17:10

the by any advanced metric one of the

17:12

most minutes had dropped took 50 games

17:16

it took it took most people five like

17:18

what torian prin like in 2018 it wasn't

17:20

a great idea and so I it's just

17:23

frustrating just frustrating it's a

17:25

devastating move on to the Warriors I

17:27

knew it they're going to draw you back

17:28

in

17:29

a little I knew it like there's Denver

17:33

and we've said it then there's a group

17:35

after that right% right they're in that

17:37

group I'm putting them in that group

17:39

Minnesota the Lakers are still in that

17:42

group they're in that group because and

17:44

this is I didn't get to say this when we

17:46

talking about the Lakers this is one

17:48

reason why it's so devastating if they

17:50

play The Warriors in the n910 it's going

17:52

to be in Golden State most likely right

17:55

and in a one and done I'm not saying the

17:57

Lakers wouldn't beat him in a series but

17:59

in a one and done and if they get hot

18:02

like that again so there's that um but I

18:06

think they're now in that group right

18:07

below Denver where they got a shot I'm

18:09

going to raise their ceiling assuming a

18:12

healthy Denver from the second round to

18:15

the Conference Finals not saying I'm

18:17

picking them for that but I'm raising

18:18

their I think their ceiling now is

18:20

Denver in the Conference Finals and

18:22

here's the thing Nick since January 28th

18:24

I I mentioned it yesterday but here's

18:26

the graphic they have the fourth best

18:28

record the league not just the west 25

18:31

and 11 that's a good 2 and 1 half month

18:34

stretch that is a 57 win Pace right so

18:39

over 82 games so they are playing and

18:41

the great thing is and you brought it up

18:43

that Steph is not like he's been

18:45

carrying him he's averaging like 23

18:47

points over the last and not shooting

18:49

well over the last month and a half I

18:51

love what the other guy Kay is starting

18:53

to find he's found himself he's kind of

18:55

back I want to say back to the old clay

18:56

but he's playing well and role the young

18:59

role players are playing well and Trace

19:01

Jackson Davis has given them a little

19:03

size you guys know that I I've always

19:05

wanted him to get bigger but they are

19:07

the second believe it or not the second

19:10

best rebounding team in the league

19:12

that's hard and the third best offensive

19:13

rebounding so when you shoot it the as

19:16

well as they do you're going to get

19:17

extra possessions they're dangerous I'm

19:19

not they're not certainly not picking

19:21

them to win the west but they're

19:22

dangerous I know I'm not allowed to

19:23

blame darham or Rob pinka for anything

19:26

because Rob pinka won a championship a

19:27

few years ago but that Trace Jackson

19:28

Davis pick that would have been one of

19:29

those nice things you know a guy the

19:31

Lakers could use in the rotation but of

19:32

course I think their guys in the g-

19:34

league from the draft picked out Spencer

19:36

the who is terrible well sper dwit he is

19:39

you

19:40

keep I mean that's the thing Angel Russ

19:44

is not terrible Aus re not terrible

19:46

Jackson haes is terrible R not terrible

19:51

Austin Reeves ruy Hur and who's the F

19:53

DLo have all played really well and I

19:56

like that fiveman unit you're at this

19:59

that side of the table's love for league

20:00

minimum Jackson Hayes who his team gave

20:02

up what he is he's an athletic bouncy

20:06

guy

20:08

off Warriors that's fine I didn't say

20:10

anything about Jackson AES I said

20:12

something about the guy that Lakers

20:14

drafted at 17 when they could have this

20:16

guy who's been in the G League all year

20:17

that's what I said then he brought up

20:19

Spencer DWI you watch with the Nets a

20:22

few years ago and when he a moment he's

20:25

not as good as he thinks he is the

20:29

Warriors all right you agree with me

20:31

right on the absolutely not you guys

20:34

can't quit this Warriors narcotic the

20:36

fact of the matter is this you know what

20:37

they proved last night the nights they

20:40

look like the 2016 Warriors they look

20:42

awesome cuz that team was awesome yeah

20:45

and they had the best shooting night not

20:47

as a team in league history but Steph

20:50

Claymont and D Claymont Steph clay and

20:53

Draymond all hitting five threes has not

20:55

happened in a game since 2016 the this

20:58

war the so before this game my ceiling

21:01

for the Warriors was bounced in round

21:03

one after this game I'm going to check

21:06

yeah bounced in round no I'm not going

21:08

to I wild what do they call me Mr

21:10

consist am I going to would it make

21:13

sense to drastically change my opinion

21:16

on a team based on one game one game you

21:19

didn't know that graphic I didn't know

21:21

you showed me yesterday yeah but

21:23

yesterday you were

21:24

be I know the graphic I go Ahad 2 and

21:29

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