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today we're going to talk about thermal

paste because I was kind of sent by a

viewer uh something that they wanted me

to check and that is specifically this

slice engineering uh boron nitride paste

which is specifically used for 3D

printers and like their temperature

probes and hotheads and stuff for things

that need to conduct heat there so we're

going to compare it to the Kingpin

extreme because when we talk about

thermop paste conductivity it's kind of

nuts what this is capable of we're going

to see whether or not it even makes a

difference for

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cramp so when it comes to measuring

thermal paast conductivity it's done in

a formula called watts per meter Kelvin

so we're not going to go into the

formula equation as to what that

actually means but that is when we're

comparing Pace conductivity that's the

number referenced so to put this into

perspective the kpx or the Kingpin

extreme which I use pretty much

everywhere oh by the way it's like

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friend don't worry about that guy he's

only there on the weekends anyway moving

on um I'm glad she's wearing headphones

back there so kpx which is something

I've been using for a long time mostly

because of how easy it is to actually

apply this paste it's not too thick it's

not too liquidy it's kind of perfect

right in the middle terms of goldilock

it's like the just right porridge you

can easily apply it and spread it and

don't have to warm it up first or

anything like that it's got a watts per

meter Kelvin um of

13.8 so there you go so when it comes to

the thermal Grizzly the little bitty guy

little gam this is like what you would

get with like an AO cooler or something

like that you

can you can get bigger it's under the

table now you can get bigger tubes if

you want um but that's just one gram and

we'll talk about that in a sec because

that is

12.5 uh watts per meter Kelvin so

already uh lower than the kpx right this

is 13.8 the slice engineering boron

nitride thermal paste is

31.8 yeah

31.8 it is extremely high um there's

also something to point out though is

it's got very low conductivity and it

becomes non-conductive once it's heated

up to 100 C so there might be a slight

amount of conductivity to this it's also

actually like water soluble like it's it

dilutes in water nicely so it's easy to

clean up especially with rubbing alcohol

and stuff I'm not too concerned about

this having a slight amount of

conductivity I bet you I could put it on

stuff and would be fine it's just they

do they are upfront and saying that it

is not fully non-conductive until it's

been heated up to 100 C it's easy to do

that these days just let any motherboard

take any 14 series CPU to its Intel

limits being removed and there you go

there's your 100 C so yeah I know that's

the die temp but that will transfer to

as well if you let it run long enough so

I've got kpx pre-installed installed

right now and I've done some perimeters

here to sort of lock down our testing

I've got a 13900 K I've got my voltage

locked I've got my frequencies locked

I've got my fan speeds and my pump

speeds locked so everything is just

completely level it won't dynamically

adjust or change we also have the

temperature in this room stuck to 70°

fah so it's less important on what those

numbers are as compared to what is the

before and after test so one of the

things I want to check right now to is

what the initial Spike temperature is

because one of the the first line of

defense of your cooler being able to do

its job is the fact that you have to

have a thermal material in between the

IHS and the cooler filling in all those

microscopic voids and air pockets that

will form and that's what thermal paste

does is it fills those voids and it

conducts that heat because we all know

air is a terrible terrible conductor of

heat so that's why we need to make sure

that we have paste in there so

theoretically a a paste that has a

higher conductivity should more

efficiently move that heat from the heat

Source in this case which is the diey to

the cooler now there's a couple layers

there like a there's like a cheeseburger

layer yeah the fact guy talking about

cheeseburgers and is it lunch time yet

okay I digress it there's like a there's

like a Big Mac happening here when it

comes to different layers you have your

dye which is the actual silicon

substrate or not the substrate but the

Silicon itself on the substrate then you

have the thermal interface material in

the 1300 K instance it's like a soldered

Tim it's like it's like a soldered paste

it's not quite soldered it's something

they put in there and they heat from the

outside and then it solidifies so that

is moving material from the die to the

IHS now the IHS is that metal thing that

when you look at the CPU that has all

the printing and numbers and stuff on it

that is responsible for now touching the

cooler but now you have the material

between the IHS and your cooler which is

the thermal interface material so there

there we might be moving some of that

efficiencies around based on how good or

how bad it is so if you have terrible

thermal interface material all that heat

is going to have a bottleneck at the

thermal interface material which means

it'll build up at the die and then your

clocks slow down your voltages go down

and your computer starts to slow down

because of thermal throttling so we want

to make sure that that heat can get out

of the entire CPU array of Big Mac Patty

whac give your dog a bone whatever I

don't know why I went there having a bit

of a day let's just go with it okay we

want to make sure we get that heat to

the cooler as fast as possible we don't

want a thermal past to be what's holding

us back I don't care about the scores so

much unless we start slowing down on our

CPU so the package is currently sitting

at 33c so I'm just going to do a single

run First of multicore and let's see

what we Spike up to so it's 82

84 on the package you can see our cores

are sitting the PE cores are low 80s mid

80s a couple in the high 70s mid 70s 83

84 it's actually pretty good we drooped

down to 1.78 or 1. 285 or so on the vid

that's normal CU we do have a droop

enabled um they give us a score of a

4,451 what I'm going to do now is I'm

going to do a 10minute test because I

want to see what our Max temperature is

going to be as well because

theoretically we should not see that

number necessarily go up too much higher

than a few degrees cuz keep in mind we

do have a 360 aiio as that water

temperature gets warmer we're going to

see the temps climb too because the

thermal capacity of the water is

becoming more saturated with the heat

that it's exchanging that's why I have

my fan set to

75% static speed instead of 100 uh just

because for noise for the video honestly

but 75% on this AIO should be plenty

with these varar fans and then um we'll

see what our Max temperature ceilings at

change the thermal paste we'll take you

along for the ride of application I've

not opened one of these yet I bought

three of them by the way I got them on

Amazon and I want to see how easy it is

to apply and spread cuz it is

water-based it should be very similar to

The Kingpin where it should be easy to

apply and for the Kingpin I did not

pre-s spread I just did a line down the

very center of the CPU

so we want to see how it spreads as well

okay so our package is at 93 currently

in this part of the test looks like it's

spiked 94 at least once that was and our

cores are sitting here in the upper 80s

so we've only got 8 seconds left on this

test and then um we'll see our package

wattage actually went up to 310 cuz what

you may not realize is as temperature

goes up so can power draw um our vid is

still around the same at

1.27 1.28 so that's why our power ended

up going going up or at least our

wattage because as temperature goes up

it becomes more inefficient which means

more power to end up maintaining those

clock speeds and stuff and because we

removed all those limits is why we

didn't lose any clock speed it actually

stayed at the 5 um 7 GHz all core or 5.6

GHz all core uh and we're at 6.1 single

core right now so my overclock is

apparently doing really well for a down

and dirty didn't really try Okay so

these are what our numbers looked like

here um I guess what we're looking for

now is is it going to be any different

at all because 92 to 93c is what we were

seeing on average right there after 10

minutes our cooler was fully saturated I

need to let it cool down right now you

can see our score dropped about 1,000

points as well that's typical as well

with high heat U even though our clock

speeds didn't change they might be

changing very quickly faster than the

the polling rate of the software is

where it might be come downclocking and

clocking back up so quickly that it not

picked up in the pulling rate which is

what will end up affecting our score all

right so letting it cool down we'll

apply the Boron the the boron nitride

and we'll see if this is going to be a

suitable solution um for an inexpensive

thermal paste that's that's the teaser

here that's also why I had that little

tube okay so let's see how easy it is to

actually

apply okay that's a little fleeky so

let's try this on a paper towel real

quick oh okay it really squishes

out jeez hold on okay so I'm going try

and apply this about the same way I did

the

kpx this is actually quite a bit thinner

than I was

expecting there I put a lot cuz I don't

want to I need to be careful with the

squish out because of the fact that it

needs to be hot to not be thermally

conductive you mean electrically

electrically conductive yes we want

thermal conductivity we don't want

electrical conductivity okay so

theoretically if it squished out it

still should not have killed my computer

if it did

oops there we

go I forgot to plug in the

pump okay we got it to 100

C look how fast I came down okay so I

was like uhoh it's at 100 C already cuz

I forgot to plug in the pump guess what

I think we made we did the dehydration

process on accident

oops I was wondering how am I going to

how am I going to make it hit 100 C like

should I go with crazy overclock no

forget to plug in your pump that'll do

it okay let's clear those Min Maxes Pro

tip if you want the throttle unplug your

phum just one run what do we got right

now so right 61 65 68 92 93 94 96 for in

' 90s on all the course we did have our

full score of 4,456 but that's only

because we have nothing in place to make

it do any sort of dynamic throttling

until it hits 100t this tells me right

now we have uh pretty poor conductivity

and I don't think that's going to be

anything to do with the thermal paste

itself I honestly think that might have

to do with how watery it is I think a

lot of it just smooshed out the side I

really think that that's what the

problem is there so let's do that again

I won't do the 10-minute test at those

temperatures cuz it's

just 94 96

97 yeah 39 827 it came down okay so with

that said let's go

ahead and shut this down and let's take

off the pump and let's see what the

thermal paste looks like because I have

a feeling it's so watery and so thin

that as soon as I tighten it down it

just smooshed out like I feel like we

need some of that

thickness to be able to maintain its

position between the two surfaces cuz

typically what you're doing with this

stuff here is you're taking it and your

putting it on like thermal couplers or

thermal probe kind of deals and you're

just gooping it all over it and then

you're sticking it like in a hole that's

reading temperatures of like the print

head and stuff cuz remember 30 printers

have to be able to monitor the

temperature like it has to know what the

temperature the print head and stuff is

that way it can monitor when you set you

know pla or whatever it's at 200

whatever C or it has to know what those

temperatures are so all this you can

just fill that whole void with the white

stuff and then it's conducting and

sending it back but it's not having to

do it between two pieces of compressed

metal at this point so I have a feeling

that all squished out which means I now

have cleanup to

do actually no it didn't not not as much

as I thought it would but you can see

right there with how liquid liquidy it

is it created these like veins which are

really interesting looking I have a

feeling the veins that are left on the

IHS will match up with the low spots and

the high spots here will match up with

those low spots but clearly it was not

transfer heat like if we had thermal

paste that looked like that we

definitely wouldn't have had the we

wouldn't have had the best performance

but we would not have seen the instant

temperatures that we saw in this case so

now let's see how well it cleans

up since it's waterbased it should work

pretty well with isopropyl

alcohol just like wipes right off wow it

looks like Elmer's

Glue like I still have to take it out I

think to get that cleaned up perfectly

but uh yeah well that's too bad I was

exp I was hoping that we would see some

good results out of this because 5 cc's

of this was $12.99 from uh Amazon and

that brings it down to like $260 a gram

whereas like the thermal Grizzly was

like $8.99 a gram that's what that

little tube was but

clearly not all thermal paste types are

created equal all right so it's all

cleaned up I had to take the CP PE out

cuz it definitely got in there little

big out on the pins but I was able to

just kind of take care of that with some

alcohol fortunately because it's

water-based it's nice that it just dries

it up and evaporates it so um I want to

now we're back on kpx I wanted to just

do a sanity check to make sure

everything's running as it should so if

I hit multicore go should spike in the

mid

80s 84 83 85 exactly where it was before

so I think it said it was like between

84 and 86 there it is 84 and 6 so there

we go imagine chemists knowing more than

some average fat

YouTuber so look the difference is every

thermal paste is made up of a couple of

different um materials in there there's

whatever the actual conductive material

is whether it be metal or ceramic or um

crystals in this case the Boron nitrate

it's crystals so there's also the the

suspension material how is that how is

that Crystal being like applied right so

this one was actually very watery it's

very water-based obviously the chemists

that have created thermal paste for

computers have figured out the right

consistency where it's not too thin when

hot but not too thick when cold there's

there's a whole process to that clearly

because of the application that the

Boron nitrites being used in for 3D

printing it's a completely different

type of application like I've already

said it's not having to deal with

pressures of components pushing against

it which as it's very thin and watery

will squish out and create a moat around

the CPU which is pretty much what

happened

the difference too is that it's has to

be able to keep that State under those

different um phase changes or in this

instance it did phase change because it

got really hot so it just dried up all

the all the water those bits and then

turned to a solid but uh at the same

time you know those crystals themselves

like the Boron nitrite itself has a a

watts per meter Kelvin of like watts per

meter Kelvin of like 700 and something

which was insane but obviously you can't

just have a solid Crystal between our

CPU and our video idea let's put sand no

I'm kiding grow a Bor on crystal for

this anyway there you go the the moral

of the story is use the proper stuff I

mean we've done this videos before with

like peanut butter and like uh Nutella

once I think we used Oreo cookie filling

we've done crazy stuff just to see what

would happen and this one specifically

came from an email from someone named

Nick and I won't say his last name not

our Nick it's a different Nick but Nick

there you go you thought i' would make

an interesting video we learned

something today we learn we're still

stupid when it comes to things that are

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