First Take reacts to L.A. Times' controversial article on Kim Mulkey & LSU
Summary
TLDRThe transcript discusses the media's portrayal of LSU head coach Kim mki, particularly focusing on a controversial Los Angeles Times column that depicted an LSU vs UCLA matchup in sexist terms. The coach vehemently defended her players against the negative and sexist portrayal, emphasizing the harm in labeling young athletes as 'dirty debutants.' The conversation also touches on the coach's past actions and the responsibility of the media to uphold editorial standards, with calls for apologies and retractions. The incident underscores broader issues of sexism in sports journalism and the power dynamics between media and sports figures.
Takeaways
- ð° The Washington Post published a profile on LSU head coach Kim mki, which was criticized by Moi as a hit piece.
- ð¬ Moi expressed her disapproval of the Los Angeles Times' portrayal of LSU vs UCLA game as a battle between good and evil, calling it sexist and incorrect.
- ð€¬ Moi defended her young players against the media's negative and sexist portrayal, challenging the use of the term 'dirty debutants'.
- ð¥ The discussion highlighted the importance of responsible journalism, especially when covering young athletes.
- ð Kim mki's coaching career was mentioned, emphasizing her success with no season having less than 20 wins.
- ð The conversation touched on the broader issue of sexism in sports media and the challenges faced by women in athletics.
- ð€ The script pointed out that the negative coverage could have been more damaging if it came from a neutral or national publication.
- ð§ The dialogue questioned the motives behind the negative coverage and the editorial process that allowed such an article to be published.
- ð ââïž The Los Angeles Times' apology and revision of the article were discussed, with opinions on whether it was sufficient.
- ð Despite recent controversies, the conversation acknowledged the need for coaches like Kim mki to stand up for their players.
- ð The script concluded with a call for reflection on all sides, including the media's responsibility and the actions of coaches in the past.
Q & A
What was the nature of the Washington Post profile on LSU head coach Kim mki?
-The Washington Post profile on LSU head coach Kim mki was a retrospective of her career, but it did not include any new revelations. It was described by Moi as a hit piece in a statement she made prior to its publication.
How did Kim mki respond to the Los Angeles Times column that portrayed LSU's matchup against UCLA?
-Kim mki strongly criticized the Los Angeles Times column, calling it sexist, awful, and wrong. She objected to the portrayal of the game as a reckoning between good and evil and took issue with the term 'dirty debutants' used to describe her young players.
What was the public's reaction to the Los Angeles Times article?
-The public reaction included support for Kim mki, with some agreeing that the article was sexist and inappropriate, especially in its portrayal of young female athletes.
What did the discussion on the show imply about the term 'dirty debutants'?
-The discussion implied that the term 'dirty debutants' was a sexist and derogatory way to describe young female athletes, which was seen as inappropriate and offensive.
How did the panelists on the show address the issue of sexism in sports journalism?
-The panelists acknowledged the sexism displayed in the Los Angeles Times article and agreed that it was wrong. They also discussed the broader issue of how women are portrayed in the sporting space and the need for better representation and respect.
What was the context of the previous criticism Kim mki had faced?
-Kim mki had faced previous criticism for her anticipated response to a Washington Post article and for her past treatment of players, particularly in relation to their personal lives and lifestyles.
How did the panelists discuss the role of editors in the publication of controversial articles?
-The panelists discussed that editors are responsible for ensuring that articles meet editorial standards before they are published. They pointed out that the Los Angeles Times article should have been rejected by the editorial team due to its sexist content.
What was the panel's view on the Los Angeles Times' apology and retraction?
-The panel felt that the Los Angeles Times' apology and retraction were insufficient. They believed that a more formal apology and a commitment to prevent such incidents in the future were necessary.
How did the panelists relate the situation to past incidents in sports media?
-The panelists related the situation to past incidents where sports media has made controversial comparisons, such as describing games as battles between 'Catholics versus convicts'. They highlighted a pattern of problematic portrayals in sports journalism.
What was the significance of the discussion on Kim mki's coaching career?
-The discussion on Kim mki's coaching career was meant to highlight her accomplishments and success, emphasizing that her track record should not be overshadowed by the controversies surrounding her personal interactions with players and media.
What did the panel suggest as a lesson for Kim mki moving forward?
-The panel suggested that while Kim mki was right to defend her players in this instance, she should also reflect on her past actions and how she has treated her players, ensuring that she maintains a standard of respect and fairness in her coaching approach.
Outlines
ð° Media Criticism and Kim Mulkey's Response
This paragraph discusses the recent media coverage of LSU head coach Kim Mulkey, specifically addressing two articles from the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times. The Washington Post article is described as a retrospective of Mulkey's career without new revelations, while the Los Angeles Times piece is criticized by Mulkey for portraying LSU's game against UCLA in a sexist manner, labeling it as a battle between 'good versus evil'. The discussion emphasizes Mulkey's defense of her young players against such characterizations and the subsequent apology and revision of the Los Angeles Times article. The conversation also touches on the broader implications of the media's role in shaping public perception, especially regarding the treatment of female athletes.
ð The Impact of Biased Reporting on Sports
The second paragraph delves into the consequences of biased reporting in sports journalism, particularly focusing on the Los Angeles Times' portrayal of the LSU-UCLA matchup. The panelists agree that the language used was inappropriate and sexist, with one panelist expressing disappointment in the lack of editorial oversight. The discussion also explores the concept of 'dirty debutants' and the societal expectations of young women, contrasting the negative portrayal with the traditional southern debutante ball. The conversation further examines the potential damage that could have been caused if the article had been published by a neutral or national publication, emphasizing the importance of journalistic integrity and responsibility.
ð Kim Mulkey's Coaching Career and Personal Matters
This paragraph provides an overview of Kim Mulkey's impressive coaching career, highlighting her 24 years of experience, four-time championship wins, and consistent record of achieving over 20 game wins each season. It also touches on the controversies surrounding her relationship with her players, as detailed in a book by Brittney Griner, and the public's perception of her coaching style. The discussion acknowledges Mulkey's recent defense of her players against media bias but also calls for introspection regarding her past actions and treatment of players. The conversation suggests that while Mulkey has shown growth in supporting her team, there are still unresolved questions about her past behavior and the need for continued self-improvement.
Mindmap
Keywords
ð¡Kim Mulkey
ð¡Media Criticism
ð¡Sexism
ð¡Public Image
ð¡Journalistic Standards
ð¡Coaching Record
ð¡Player Relationship
ð¡Media Bias
ð¡Accountability in Media
ð¡Sports Media
ð¡Public Apology
Highlights
Publication of the Washington Post profile on LSU head coach Kim mki, criticized by Moi as a hit piece.
Los Angeles Times releases a column portraying LSU vs UCLA matchup as good vs evil, which Moi denounces as sexist and incorrect.
Moi defends young athletes against the media's sexist portrayal, emphasizing the inappropriateness of calling them 'dirty debutants'.
The panel agrees with Moi's stance, recognizing the negative impact of the media's language on young female athletes.
Discussion on the implications of labeling one team as 'dirty' and the other as 'milk and cookies', highlighting the sexism and potential racial bias.
The importance of journalistic responsibility and editorial oversight before publishing articles, to prevent the spread of harmful narratives.
The potential for greater damage if the negative article had come from a neutral or national publication rather than the Los Angeles Times.
Kim mki's impressive coaching record, including being a four-time champion and a three-time coach of the year.
Criticism of Kim mki's past treatment of players and her defensiveness regarding their personal lives, as highlighted in a book by Britney Brer.
The necessity for Kim mki to reflect on her own actions and treatment of players in light of recent events and media scrutiny.
The role of the Los Angeles Times' bias as a home paper for UCLA, and how it may have influenced the column's portrayal of the matchup.
The broader issue of sexism and the challenges women face in the sports industry, brought to light by the situation.
The importance of learning from this situation and ensuring that media coverage is fair and respectful to all athletes.
The potential for the Los Angeles Times' mistake to overshadow other issues related to Kim mki, as the focus is on their error.
The need for accountability in journalism, especially when it comes to the portrayal of young athletes and their character.
The impact of this incident on the public's perception of both the media and the coach, and the lessons that can be learned for future interactions.
Transcripts
welcome back on Saturday the long
anticipated Washington Post profile on
LSU head coach Kim mki was published the
piece was a retrospective of M's career
and included no New Revelations though
Moi described it as a hitpiece in a
statement she made last week
anticipating its publication meanwhile
the Los Angeles Times released a column
which came out on Friday that portrayed
LSU's matchup against UCLA as a
reckoning between good versus evil with
Moi calling it sexist awful and wrong
the times apologize and Revis the
article here's Moi addressing the LA
Times piece you can criticize coaches
all you want that's our business you can
come at us and say you're the worst
coach in America I hate you I hate
everything about you we expect
that comes with the
territory but the one thing I'm not
going to let you
do I'm not going to let you attack young
people it was so sexist
and they don't even know
it it was good versus evil in that game
today
evil called us dirty debutants take your
phone out right now and Google dirty
debutant and tell me what it
says dirty
debutants are you kidding
me I'm not going to let you talk about
18 to 21 year old kids
in that
tone all right Shannon I'm going to
start with you what is your reaction to
all of this I agree I I've been on
record I'm not the biggest fan of Kim
Moi but she's absolutely right in this
situation it's sad because as she
mentioned these are 18 to 21 year old
these are college young ladies and you
think of them as dirty debutants Google
it I wish they had done what she had
asked them to do and see what it takes
you to now I understand I'm from the
south so I understand what a debutant
ball is uh there were what it is Stephen
as a young lady supposed to be a going
into adulthood and so they get all
dressed up and they they put on their
nice fancy gowns and off to they go and
you say dirty debutants and then you say
the others are milk and cookies really
for entrance formal entrance into
society that's the way lab yeah really
really I mean come on now is that is
that where we are now if you're going to
say the one program is but to to B take
it to this point because we we see what
it is sex is there's a a I am not going
to even say a tinge because when you say
one team is dirty and the other team is
milk and cookies really villains when
did it's almost like Stephen I know you
remember when they had Miami played
Notre Dame and it was the Catholics
versus the convicts yep and we we we see
where this is headed what what did you
hope to get out of that and Stephen A it
was so bad they had to do some
retractions but it had already it
already been printed so you can't pull
back what somebody has already read it's
kind of like when I'm in a courtroom
Stephen that we're in a courtroom and I
said something and you object I object
your honor and honor says objection
substain how do I make the jury unhear
what I heard what they heard right how
do you make people unread what they've
already read you've already called them
the dirty debutant you've already said
these inflammatory sexist things about
them and for that Stephen you can you
know more about this you were in the
journalism you were in the newspaper
business I'm assuming that when you
write a column it has to go to the
editor yes so the editor had to have
signed off on this and now goad an
editor's desk it's copy editor an
editor's desk it goes through like two
or three layers before it goes to print
that is true so and or now and you gonna
come out and say it didn't meet the
standard when after the fact Stephen
they just told me it goes to two or
three levels so it met the standard
enough to get out one time and then you
get the back glass and you hear what
comes from what you wrote or what you
allowed to now you said it didn't meet
the editorial standards and we're going
to you're going to have a retraction to
some of it it's too late Kim Moi is
exactly correct this thing should have
never been written I don't really know
what you hope to gain by saying talking
about 18 to 21 year old young ladies in
this capacity I don't get what they got
out of this but it was totally wrong and
she's absolutely right Kim Moi was
absolutely right
and she was right to point it out she
was right to point out what it was in
terms of the sexism that uh was was
displayed uh and she was also right to
challenge the media in attendant to pull
out their phones and look up deputes and
and what that means and what was trying
to be implied here here's what I would
tell you Shannon when it comes to the
newspaper industry and what the Los
Angeles Times should have done there is
always a boss there is always a leader
in everything that we do put Shannon up
on the screen so I can see him please
there's always that what happens is
whoever had the power to say quote it
did not meet the times editorial
standards should have went a step
further and apologized and said on
behalf of this paper that is not our
standard that was never supposed to be
in print it is something that we will
address we apologize
and we will make sure it does not happen
again very very simple they didn't go
that far they just stopped there and
that's where the mistake was what
happens is is that as damaging and as
bad as this as this was it would have
been significantly worse if it came from
a neutral publication or a national
publication if the USA Today or somebody
like that did it it would it would
resonate even further here's the reason
why the Los Angeles times you know who
they rooting for yeah the home paper of
course so you you Roo for the home paper
you see what I'm saying and so if you
get an opportunity to paint somebody as
the villain while you're you know you're
pristine and you're like the dove flying
in the sky you know nothing blemishes
you you can understand what their intent
was but they went too damn far and they
made that mistake had it been a national
publication all right or somebody that
was neutral if this was some paper in
New York or wherever that decided to
that it would have been far far more
damaging because where's the homerism
there there's no excuse for you to be
favoring one over the other in any kind
of fashion right but in the Los Angeles
Times that's the only thing that they
have to lean on with this mistake
getting to Moi let's understand
something about Moi here because she's
made news over the last week and a half
two weeks for several reasons okay
calling out the Washington Post before
the article came out and all of this
other stuff and it turned out to just be
you know a regurgitation of some of the
things we already knew her relation
Britney Brer and all of this other stuff
it ain't the greatest look in the world
but it was no surprise in the end Kim
Moi has been coaching in college
basketball for 24 years she's a
four-time champion she's a three-time
coach of the year do you know that she's
never had a season where she's loost
she's she's won less than 20 games every
single year of her career she's won more
than 20 games so there's no questioning
her about her coaching acent
only has been she's Elite so what do you
get to you get to the personal and
here's where the personal lies the
personal lies and her relationship with
players how it's perceived she has
treated some of her players particularly
her off-putting personality or approach
or whatever word you want to use to
their quote unquote sexuality this is
according to a book Britney grer wrote
according to excerpts according to
things that have been discussed in the
end
her turning around and being defensive
for on behalf of her players people will
look at her and say well at least you're
doing that these days because clearly
there were times in the past where we
wish you would have and you didn't right
you love she love she loved the players
but not the players lifestyle right and
so that's what that's what seemingly
annoyed her or what she tried to shy
away from or ask Britney to suppress
don't be so outwardly or so open about
it when she was around campus but that's
who Britney grinder chose to live her
life as and so I agree with you Stephen
A at least she did come to the defense
of her players in this situation and it
was rightfully so it's not quite to the
level of what Don IM said Stephen I know
you remember what he said it's not that
but there were the implications are
there when you refer to them because the
majority of LSU players are
African-Americans black and UCLA is is
seen as Lily White pris
the milk and cookies the wholesome while
these are dirty debutant but like I said
people at home if you didn't get an
opportunity Google and see what comes up
on your Google when you Google that word
yeah and now we we got to look at it for
what it is and again but also Kim Moi
needs to be there's a Learning lesson in
all of this as well as she continues to
excoriate what the Los Angeles Times did
what the Washington Post did it does
call upon her to look in the mirror
because we still got questions as to how
she treated Angel Reese at the beginning
of this season right and what was that
all about we know about the whole
Britney gr thing because Britney gr told
us there's a there's a few incidences
where in Shannon has pointed to weeks
ago when you went off about Kim Moi
where she gives you cause to pause
because of her dismissiveness when
Britney grer was stuck in Russia right
and we didn't know whether she was going
to be able to get you know you get get
out of there okay and you you were you
had hope for an elevated level of ensity
from Kimi that she did not give you and
then to come out and say well you know
what they got this article that's coming
out about me and they only gave us a
couple of days to respond when you know
they had been chasing you for two years
to interview you that doesn't make much
sense but in the end the Los Angeles
times has helped her this week because
they were clearly wrong in what they did
and the focus being on that sort of
limits the level of attention you're
throwing in Kim Mo's direction for a
pleth of other reasons so we can't
ignore that either I do want to say
Stephen the point about it being in La
the LA time specifically is a really
good point but I do think that this
article specifically highlights a lot of
the issues that women have dealt with in
the sporting space and Athletics in
general so um definitely a lot to learn
there with the situation um we'll see
what happens moving forward and not
absolving the Los Angeles Times and end
W I'm just saying all of us would
receive it a even more fiercely had it
come from a neutral exactly publication
yeah
La ain't neutral when it comes to UCLA
USC etc for sure that makes a lot of
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