"Conservative Civil War" - Jesse Watters Predicts Winner Of Candace Owens vs Ben Shapiro Debate

Candace Owens and uh uh uh Ben Shapiro

it's a little bit of a messy situation

here obviously uh Candace Owens is no

longer with uh uh DA wire that

announcement has been made oh no when

and that that announcement has been made

for a couple weeks Rob if you can pull

up the clip with Megan Kelly asking Ben

Shapiro question because I think Candace

Owens asked the question saying I want

to do a podcast and I want to find out

the definition of what it is to be an

anti-semite that's what she's asking

right and then this is a question that

Megan Kelly asked Ben Shapiro recently

go ahead to a debate about whether the

daily wire is Pro free speech the

accusation is you are until it comes to

Israel how do you respond we have a wide

variety of positions on Israel right now

inside the daily wire Matt Walsh

obviously is another one of the hosts at

the daily wire he and I wildly disagree

about what America's Israel policy

should be Matt is much more isolationist

he basically believes the United States

has no no real interests in the Middle

East and thus the United States should

not be providing material support to

anyone including the state of Israel

that wire is a a publisher not a

platform I would never call for anyone

to be ousted from an actual platform X

YouTube I I even people who are I I

think absolutely horrific human beings

I've never called for any of them to be

H in fact I've called for them to have

their accounts restored if they've been

banned uh that that's not the same thing

when it comes to Publishers Publishers

obviously have to decide what sort of

things they wish to pay for the

publication of and uh and when it comes

to you know hosts and and Publishers you

know parting ways obviously there

there'll be a non- meeting of the minds

that's pretty much all I can say on that

but by the way he's actually being

straight up saying look I'm I'm not a

platform I'm a publisher if I want to

fire somebody I can do because I

disagree with what they're saying that's

how I took what he just said right there

right that's pretty how we all took

straight up no problem but here's what

Candace Owens tweeted yesterday that

kind of started the whole thing I think

it's right there Rob first she tweets

this out which we talked about Andrew

Schultz Andrew I I hope you're happy

with the fight you've created Andrew for

a guy that's as funny as you are and we

watch you couple you've started a war

Andrew I hope hope you understand the

amount of pain you're creating on social

media today uh anyways he says what he

says there at the bottom Ben Ben Ben

wait a minute and then Candace responds

I would like to debate Ben shapir on

Israel and the current definition of

anti-semitism can anybody make this

happen Ben responds back and he says uh

well I actually sent you a message for

us to do uh this on February 29th but

you never uh respond it back or

something like that if you want to do it

let's do it Monday uh at uh Nashville at

wire headquarters okay I think that's

Ben's response sure Candace I texted you

on February 29 offering this very thing

let's do this on my show Monday at 5:00

p.m. at our studio Nashville 90 minutes

live stream then she responds back and

she says uh I'm sure you can appreciate

why I prefer to keep this off daily wire

platform as well as true reason why

we've never been able to make any

discussions happen let's choose a

neutral trustworthy platform I vote

Patrick B DAV I know that guy yeah and

then he comes back and Ben says the

following thing Ben says uh uh Rob if

you can pull his response to that

Candace I can see why you'd want to hide

behind a moderator particularly one who

said we should rename our company the

daily Jewish wire just yesterday I said

the daily Israeli wire but it's fine

I'll said both of them no oneon-one

Monday 500 P p.m. we can sit down and

have a healthy debate like adults and

we'll live stream on X and YouTube take

it or leave it as to the TR true reasons

you didn't respond to my offer to sit

down with you and discuss the issue

publicly or privately in February I have

no idea what the hell you're talking

about okay cool let's keep

going so then the next thing she says uh

uh you can go back to the other one

Robin a back uh uh yeah if you can go

back to the next tweek Candace puts

anyways they keep going back and forth

we even made an offer ourselves a lot of

names came up uh about uh on uh go to

one lower than that see what she's got

that one uh I'm not hiding behind a

moderator I'm just choosing not to bring

eyes to daily wire you're rather

typically removing pbds words from

proper context to make it seem as though

he's basisty attacking you rather he

offered free advice the daily wire would

not take heat if they were open about

their priorities but I'll choose to be

understanding regarding your exhaustive

sensit sensitivities to everyone

everywhere would you prefer Charlie Kirk

or Tim Cass they keep going back and

forth okay finally uh uh Jeremy boring

gets inv I I gave a message and we made

our offer Rob how long is that video if

it's too long don't know it's 243 don't

play it we made our offer on what we

said and she retweeted that can you show

what she says Patrick bavid just threw

$250,000 for Lake and Riley's family to

make this debate open and yes Ben

Shapiro did take pbd wordss completely

out of context there was Zero malicious

intent I'm America first so I'm in

amazing option to make this charitable

so we kind of wanted to bring this back

to America because cace has three kids

Ben has four kids I have four kids we

all live in America it should be America

First not Iran first not Armenia first

not Israel first it should be America

first if you think it's Israel first go

to Israel we all love America we're all

choosing to raise our kids here Jeremy

boring response and I think he was the

one that was able to bring the whole

thing together it's a Shabbat but I

think Ben was clear one-on-one inperson

Nashville Monday 5:00 P p.m. live stream

on X and YouTube I'll add there will be

no ads on video No Charge uh to watch it

no one Cashes in you debated Destiny on

a show without the moderator less than a

month ago and have debated plenty of

people without a moderator on your show

you asked for a debate if you want it

come have it then Candace responds and

says you guys have known all along that

I will be in London for 2 weeks you've

known the schedule you've known I'm in

London you've known for months I'm going

to be there dailywire employees were

initiator Slater to be here I certainly

swing this virtually virtually on Monday

oneon-one if you guys really just cannot

wait for me to get back but I'm refusing

to allow this to happen on dailywire

platform this request seems perfectly

reasonable and understandably to

everyone but daily wire why is itd then

he finally breaks it down and he says

this if you can go to Jeremy boring

tweet that he has by the way Lex

Freedman got involved Tim got involved

Rogan didn't get but they Dro Ro Rogan's

name on there Jeremy boring that's the

one right there yeah I don't know your

in international travel schedule Candace

I know when you wanted to talk to

someone in the past uh you've flown

across the world to make it happen he

would know her travel schedule you're

her boss what do you mean you don't know

uh but maybe if he doesn't know it's

your top two Talent why would you not

know that person's schedule you as a CO

should know where your top two Talent is

you asked for a debate Ben agre to

debate you don't want it on dailywire

channel fine we can live stream it to

your

channels you don't want to shoot it at

Daily wire Studio fine we'll rent a

studio in Nashville you don't want daily

wire crew fine we'll hire a local crew

you don't want a daily wire pay for it

fine you're rich you can pay for it you

don't want to do it Monday fine let's

let us know how long you need to prepare

let us know how long you need to prepare

we will not agree to moderator no third

party to put their finger on the scale

we will not agree to Virtual or edited

video live inperson 101 the rest of it

is just noise now Candace then responds

back to this and she says uh the last

part if you can go to it which is I

think go I think that no not not that

one I think that's the one yeah that's

the one right there bearing the odd

insinuation that you didn't know your

own employees were booked on

international flights to come join me

exactly to film your platform this is

great I fully accept no moderator I will

get in touch privately to get the set up

major wi great they pulled it off good

for you and by the way hey shout out to

Jeremy boring to do that but Jeremy you

should have done this 3 months ago two

months ago man this this this should

have been set up together but good for

Jeremy for being able to ask the co the

company to say guys let's have the

conversation here we don't need to have

another moderator from the outside be a

part of this let's have the talk

together what are you what what are your

thoughts on this whole you know

challenge they've been facing as well as

the Ben and the Candace conversation can

you go over that again cuz I miss so she

she accepted she accepted yes wow okay

so I'm I'm not as dialed in as you guys

are on this thing but this is the first

time I'm hearing about it but it looks

like it's a done deal and I've had both

of them on my show I've had Candace I've

had been I think they're both

exceptionally talented I usually don't

get involved in conservative Civil Wars

and I hate the Israeli situation I mean

that is a very thorny situation to

discuss and although what Hamas did is

horrific obviously but I think it's

healthy I guess for the conservative

movement to Hash it out to debate each

other if they want to have a debate over

the definition of

anti-semitism fine have at it I'll watch

if I have time you know I got two shows

I have a book out I have four kids but

I'll do the best I can yeah Vinnie

thoughts I I don't know I mean like you

said three months ago this should have

this should have happened it just it got

got ridiculously out of hand but I did I

saw a video of and this is going to the

the Israel situation that you brought up

Ben Shapiro there's a video of him

saying uh somebody somebody asked him in

a in like a live Forum thing I think it

was at of college like Ben do you think

the United States should get involved

with anything with Israel and Ben said

something along the lines of absolutely

not Israel can take care of herself and

then cut two months later he's like no

when there's nuclear weapons or whatever

United States of course we have to get

this is it this is it right here America

to fight Wars for Israel nope nope first

of all Israel can take care of

herself if Israel is forced to the wall

the possibility of nuclear exchange is

extremely high that is why it is very

that the United States provide the

material Aid to

Israel this is going to my point too

this topic in your nail to Jesse you can

not there's no winning in this in this

debate in this conversation it's if you

care about innocent kids dying you

support Hamas if you're pro- Israel

you're you're you're aign there's no

there's no even in the middle cuz

there's no winning in this situation I'm

just interested to see what

anti-Semitism is in in Ben's eyes

because as we saw when she was the ating

uh rabbis she she called shi's daughter

a hag and this guy went into 17th

century you know that's anti-semitic she

posted something Christ is King oh

that's anti-semitic I could see if

somebody's genuinely anti-semitic and

they're they hate Jewish people and they

hate everything about them but to be

searching and reaching and trying to

grab them into it I don't think it helps

the the conversation at all it doesn't

do anything well you can't just trust

any clip on the internet cuz what he was

specifically talking about is American

troops involved in Israeli War which

there are none so it wasn't getting

involved and to be clear on the funding

from Israel the United States gives

Israel $3.3 billion a year and it's in

the form of foreign military financing

okay which must be spent to purchase

weapons so it's not like here here's

money and they built the Iron Dome with

this um I'm happy to see that Candace

and Ben are going to have this

discussion I thought the video that you

shot that you sent to them was typical

pbd Class Act and fair if pbd I'm sorry

if Candace and Ben were GNA have this

conversation there would have been no

better moderator than pbd why for one

reason he'd be fair to both sides and

respect both sides so Ben as a Jew who

supports a lot of the things you say

have nothing to do with the daily wire

you could have not have gone wrong going

with pbd I'll say this last thing this

whole term

anti-Semitism um dude I don't even know

what semitism you might even be a semi

we are

conrat no Jews are running around being

like hey how you doing my Semite uh what

we're talking about is Jewish hate so by

the way there's a difference between

Israel Jews and Judaism Israel is a

country Jews are a people and Judaism is

a religion you can criticize Israel all

you want just like you can criticize any

country you can't criticize or condemn

their right to exist so Jews have a

little uh you know strong feelings on

the whole genocide thing uh especially

when the Harvard MIT pen presidents

couldn't condemn so I think it's a

Nuance conversation I'm happy to have

them see them have this conversation

criticize Israel just like you can be

I'm an American I criticize the

government all I want criticize

Netanyahu criticize Benny gun criticize

policies the The River To The Sea this

chant that people are saying that means

eliminating the country and the people

of Israel big difference what what so

here's my thing do you even know what

what caused them to get rid of Candace

what did Candace do that you're talking

about that had them go she has to go you

know the answer to that what you know

the answer to that what stay tuned for

their conversation coming up you agree

with the the poll shows they think

Candace is going to win

78% that's well well because guess what

uh she he's going to bring I mean

obviously he's going to stand strong

with the Israel I think he's going to

100% take that angle and the hate and

all the stuff that Adam was talking

about she is going to speak y by the way

he's brilliant she's going to spit facts

too she's never said anything I think if

I think if

anybody's coaching either side like if

and not like either one of them need

help from anybody I think uh uh Ben has

studied the history of worri he's from

his entire life just like when Putin sat

down with tu Tucker he started with a

history lesson

Ukraine right and that's you think

Candace is going to sit and not

interrupt during a history lesson no way

no but but the difference

is Putin is long winded Ben Shapiro is

going to give boom boom boom boom and

then the other canace is going to do the

same I think it's going to be very very

um I think the world one because this is

something everybody wants to see I think

it's going to be very entertaining let

me let me let me let's go to it though

right so if there's no moderator both

these people speak a 100 miles a minute

for sure nobody speaks as fast as Ben no

one but she's not far behind how is this

going to be a car crash for an hour

how's that going to look that's what we

said yesterday Jesse unless somebody's

there going okay wait a minute you have

2 minutes go wait a minute stop

interrupting it's going to be a

show that's going to be very difficult

no I think they'll be professionals I

think they'll be professionals because

they well by the way if they don't it's

a bad look for both of them so it's not

like it's not going to be good

television if it's just talking over

what's this Zero Hedge did something

with Alex Jones and uh Destiny who was

was it them that they did it and it was

the feedback was because you you if you

have a person that

is like an Alex that is a pitbull is

going to go and if you can't stop and

control he's going to go right in this

situation they're both going to be

professionals I actually think it's

going to be good and I'm looking forward

to it but it would obviously be easier

when there's a referee today right

before here I went to the game and shout

out to Dilly boy Dilly hit a home run

today I went I'm going to suit what the

hell is wrong with I record a whole

thing by the way he hits a home run and

I come here but while I'm there I asked

this uh this uh one of the fathers I

said hey man why is the referee standing

behind the pitcher why is he not behind

the catcher he says this is why the game

started 15 minutes late because the

other referee didn't show up we only

have one referee every game needs a

referee every sport needs a referee

businesses need referees and debates

need referees I agree that's all it is

and and by the way the whole purpose of

a moderate I remember one time dtz and

um uh uh RFK got a hold of me four years

ago they said we're doing a debate about

the vaccine and DT's position was the

government can force you to take the

vaccine according to this I don't know

if you remember this this was like three

and a half years ago and RFK is like

hell no they called and they said we

want you to be the moderator and then I

was the moderator out of the two hours

that they spoke you know how much I

spoke maybe less than 3 minutes because

because it was like boom jumping out

they go 20 minutes boom jumping out they

go 20 minutes so that would be the case

you remember the first I believe it was

Trump Biden debate with Chris Wallace

the moderator yes I do I do little

biased that could that could happen I

mean anything could happen that's the

risk by the way the the Candace Destiny

debate was an hour after the pbd town

hall Cuomo yeah Candace debate and the

first conversation they had on there was

oh how you doing where you coming from

she goes oh I just did the pbd podcast

and she goes Destiny because he's been

on your show my show multiple times

Destiny goes you know what pbd Adam

they're Fair like he so but um wait wait

a minute no no he said he likes you he

doesn't like me but chandice said

they're so Destiny is team Adam and

shout out to team Adam and Destiny you

guys I'm on team fairness and

conversation no but I know what say but

that's what Candace Jess you said before

this um Candice Ben

implosion a month ago two months ago it

was Ben versus Tucker and they were

going back and forth and our friend Dave

Rubin was trying to moderate uh a

conversation shout out to Dave um now

it's Ben Candice but you said earlier

you don't like to see conservatives

attacking each other it breaks my heart

where do you stand on Tucker and Ben and

these types of conversations right yeah

I love Tucker I haven't followed that

beef either as much it's hard to get in

the weeds when it comes to this stuff I

like making the left fight each other I

don't like when we fight each other I

like us unified although it's healthy

when we fight I don't know if it's a

good look um you know they are totally

motivated to left they are 100% a mob

when they're unified and they stay on

message they just steamroll and anything

goes and they ends justify the means if

the Republican movement or the

conservative movement is constantly

fighting over each other which is fine

which is healthy and a

primary if you're not going to monetize

it what are we doing

here I don't know I I I like aiming I

like aiming the weapons at the other

side theoretically not literally yeah

but I do I do we got a big election

coming up so this is fun I like watching

it's

entertaining um

I I just I just feel like I'd like to

train our focus in other places well you

know and this is a personal beat this is

personal I get yeah of course U cuz

Tucker is starting his new company T

right it's a b they jocking for Market

sh so um speaking of infighting you know

your Fox News you know what's going on

around the country uh The Establishment

Maga rhinos M like where where do you

see this in fighting you see margerie

Taylor green

Mike Johnson you know the house the

speaker Kevin McCarthy there's going to

be infighting regardless we were at the

event with Matt Gates I don't think this

is going to stop where do you where do

as someone who has very good perspective

where do you see the establishment

Republican party the Reagan you know

McConnell side of things versus the new

King in town Trump they don't have the

margins in the house to be fighting like

they're

fighting what is it one two three four

it's a few seats so if one guy says

Johnson you're out that's it or girl

Marg tillay green or girl yeah that

you're done and then so they have no

control and and then that's how you get

all of this funding for all of these

wars and you know you can say what you

want about Ukraine but you know you're

not going to get anything done maybe we

don't want anything done but it doesn't

seem to me like the establishment is uh

feeling confident these days it feels

like the magga movement or the populist

movement has taken full control over the

party but you still need to maintain

electability and establishment

candidates in Senate races because in

certain

races you might not be able to win in a

Statewide race with a full-throated

magga conservative you might have to run

someone a little bit more to the center

and that's something for Mitch McConnell

to figure out and that's something for

the donors to figure out but I like

yeah and I'd rather win than than than

lose uh honorably or um or purely uh I

like majorities in the house and the

Senate I like the White House and so I

want to do whatever I can to make sure

we have a unified party going into this

election because if we're not unified

we're going to lose well what's your

solution for UniFi cuz you know you're

like winning I think a lot I think

spending is the big problem I think

spending an IM migration there's a lot

of Knucklehead Republicans that don't

care they'll just spend the money and

they'll bankrupt the country and they're

okay with open borders and that's a huge

problem but they hide and I think

there's more of them than we even

realize really oh yeah like big names

influential names I think I think almost

a majority of House

Republicans don't care about deficits

and you would have to agree with that

deficits for sure spending in the

deficits and when they got a shot to

build the wall under Trump when they had

majorities they didn't build a wall

Trump had to scream bloody murder to get

that funding it was only two billion now

they're throwing around 80 billion over

here 90 billion over here I think the

donor class and a lot of these

corporations they love the open border I

mean look at these jobs reports a lot of

these jobs are migrant jobs and they put

downward pressure on wages you bring

them in they're filling up hotels if

you're a hotel owner in Manhattan you

have fully booked rooms from now until

next year yep so it's just new customers

to the corporate class and a lot of the

Grassroots Republican that I know and

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