"Salt" Batteries are FINALLY Here?! Sooo should you use them?
Summary
TLDRThe video script discusses a comparison between lithium and sodium-ion batteries, highlighting the latter's potential as a more sustainable and cost-effective alternative. It explores the differences in their inner compositions, charge/discharge curves, energy densities, and safety features. The script also touches on the current limitations of sodium-ion technology, such as the lack of dedicated charging ICs and lower energy output, but suggests that with advancements and mass production, sodium-ion batteries could become a more environmentally friendly option for energy storage in the future.
Takeaways
- ð Both lithium and sodium-based batteries can provide portable energy for various devices, but they have different internal compositions.
- ð Lithium is a scarce and expensive resource, while sodium is abundant and cost-effective, making up about 40% of table salt (sodium chloride).
- ð There is growing interest in sodium-ion (salt) batteries as the future of battery technology due to their potential cost and resource advantages.
- ð ïž The video aims to test and compare real sodium-ion batteries against lithium-ion ones to determine their viability as a replacement technology.
- ð The charge/discharge curve analysis is used as an electrical method to differentiate between the two types of batteries and verify the authenticity of the sodium-ion battery.
- ð The lithium battery has a narrower voltage plateau (4V to 3.4V) compared to the wider plateau of the sodium battery (3.9V to 2.1V), affecting their energy output and monitoring ease.
- â¡ïž Sodium-ion batteries have a higher internal resistance (33% more than lithium), leading to more heat generation and limiting their power capabilities.
- ð The cycle life of sodium batteries is significantly better, with 1000 cycles maintaining 85% capacity, compared to lithium batteries with 60% capacity after 250 cycles.
- ð¡ Despite lower energy density, the safety of sodium-ion batteries is a notable advantage, with no reported fires or explosions in testing.
- ð Current technology lacks dedicated charging ICs for sodium-ion batteries, but a simple charger can be built using an LM317 adjustable voltage regulator.
- ð± While sodium-ion batteries have challenges and are more expensive currently, their potential for environmental friendliness and cost reduction with mass production is promising.
Q & A
What are the main differences between lithium and sodium-based batteries?
-Lithium-based batteries have a narrower voltage plateau and can deliver more energy (8.7Wh) compared to sodium-ion batteries of the same size (4.06Wh). Sodium-ion batteries have a wider voltage plateau, making it easier to determine the charge left, but they also have higher internal resistance which limits their power capabilities.
Why is the development of sodium-ion batteries considered promising for the future of battery technology?
-Sodium-ion batteries are considered promising because sodium is a more abundant and cheaper resource compared to lithium. This could potentially lead to more affordable and environmentally friendly batteries in the future.
What are the safety advantages of sodium-ion batteries over lithium-ion batteries?
-Sodium-ion batteries improve safety as they do not pose risks of fire or explosion, which is a known issue with lithium-ion batteries. This makes them a potentially safer alternative for energy storage.
How does the cycle life of sodium-ion batteries compare to lithium-ion batteries?
-Sodium-ion batteries have a longer cycle life, maintaining 85% of their capacity after 1000 cycles, whereas lithium-ion batteries only maintain 60% after 250 cycles.
What challenges does the new sodium-ion battery technology face?
-Challenges for sodium-ion batteries include lower energy density compared to lithium-ion, the need for new charging ICs due to different charging voltages, and the higher internal resistance which limits their power output.
How can a charger for sodium-ion batteries be built using an LM317 adjustable voltage regulator?
-An LM317 adjustable voltage regulator can be used to build a crude constant voltage constant current charger for sodium-ion batteries by following the schematic in its datasheet and adjusting resistor values to achieve the required charging voltage and current.
What is the role of a Battery Management System (BMS) in a battery pack?
-A Battery Management System (BMS) ensures the safety of each individual cell in a battery pack by protecting them from overcharging and over discharging, and it needs to be designed to work with the specific voltage levels of the battery type.
How does the internal resistance of sodium-ion batteries affect their performance?
-The higher internal resistance of sodium-ion batteries, about 33% more than lithium-based batteries, means they produce more heat when current flows, limiting their input and output power capabilities.
What is the main disadvantage of sodium-ion batteries in terms of energy density?
-Sodium-ion batteries have a lower energy density compared to lithium-ion batteries, barely rivaling lithium iron phosphate batteries, and are currently more expensive due to being a new technology not yet in mass production.
What is the significance of the charge/discharge curve in understanding battery performance?
-The charge/discharge curve provides insights into a battery's performance by showing how its voltage and current change during charging and discharging, which can be indicative of its efficiency, power output, and overall battery health.
How does the availability of charging ICs affect the adoption of sodium-ion batteries?
-The lack of dedicated charging ICs for sodium-ion batteries is a hurdle as they require different charging voltages than lithium-ion batteries. However, with the development of suitable charging solutions, this issue can be overcome.
Outlines
ð Exploring Sodium-ion vs Lithium Batteries
The paragraph discusses the differences between lithium and sodium-based batteries. It highlights the scarcity and cost of lithium compared to the abundance and affordability of sodium, which is a key component of table salt. The speaker expresses excitement about testing real sodium-ion batteries purchased from AliExpress and sponsored by JLCPCB. The focus is on understanding the electrical characteristics of these batteries through charge/discharge curve analysis, which involves monitoring voltage and current during charging and discharging processes. The lithium battery's standard charge and discharge rates are detailed, and the resulting curves are compared to the sodium-ion battery's curves, which appear distinct and align with scientific reports on sodium-ion technology.
ð Comparing Battery Performance and Energy Density
This paragraph delves into the performance comparison between lithium and sodium batteries. It outlines the lithium battery's narrower voltage plateau and the sodium battery's wider one, affecting how easily the charge left in the battery can be determined. The paragraph also discusses the implications of constant power loads and the cost of designing power electronics to accommodate varying voltages. A significant difference is the energy output, with the lithium battery delivering more than double the energy of the sodium battery of the same size. The energy density of sodium-ion batteries is compared to other types, and the challenges of new technology, such as the lack of dedicated charging ICs and the need for a Battery Management System, are addressed. However, the potential for sodium-ion batteries to become more affordable and environmentally friendly in the future is highlighted.
ð« Safety and Cycle Life of New Battery Technologies
The final paragraph focuses on the safety aspects and cycle life of sodium-ion batteries compared to lithium-ion ones. It contrasts the risks of fire and explosion associated with lithium-ion batteries with the safer profile of sodium-ion batteries, as suggested by the datasheet and anecdotal evidence. The speaker expresses a personal reluctance to test this safety claim directly. The cycle life of the batteries is also compared, with the sodium battery showing a significantly higher capacity retention after 1000 cycles. The paragraph concludes by contemplating the future of battery technology and suggesting that sodium-ion may eventually replace lithium iron phosphate batteries for their environmental benefits. The speaker encourages patience for the maturation of this new technology and invites viewers to support their ongoing projects through Patreon and other platforms.
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Keywords
ð¡Lithium Battery
ð¡Sodium-ion Battery
ð¡Energy Density
ð¡Charge/Discharge Curve
ð¡Internal Resistance
ð¡Safety
ð¡Cycle Life
ð¡Battery Management System (BMS)
ð¡AliExpress
ð¡Sodium
ð¡YouTube
Highlights
Comparison of lithium and sodium-based batteries in terms of portable energy provision for devices like laptops and power tools.
Lithium is a scarce and expensive resource, while sodium is abundant and cheaper, with 40% sodium content in table salt (sodium chloride).
Sodium-ion batteries, also known as salt batteries, are touted as a potential future for battery technology due to their affordability and abundance.
The video aims to test the authenticity of sodium-ion batteries purchased from AliExpress and evaluate their performance against lithium-ion batteries.
Sodium-ion batteries have a wider voltage plateau (3.9V to 2.1V) compared to lithium batteries (4V to 3.4V), making it easier to determine the charge left in the battery.
Lithium batteries have a higher energy density and can deliver more than double the energy (8.7Wh) compared to sodium-ion batteries of the same size (4.06Wh).
Sodium-ion batteries have a lower internal resistance (33% higher) than lithium batteries, which can limit their input and output power capabilities but improve safety.
Sodium-ion batteries have a longer cycle life, maintaining 85% of their capacity after 1000 cycles, compared to lithium batteries which only maintain 60% after 250 cycles.
The video discusses the challenges of new technology, including the lack of dedicated charging ICs for sodium-ion batteries and the need for a Battery Management System (BMS).
A homemade constant voltage-constant current charger for sodium-ion batteries can be built using an LM317 adjustable voltage regulator.
Sodium-ion batteries are suggested to be a more environmentally friendly alternative to lithium-ion batteries, potentially replacing lithium iron phosphate batteries in the future.
The video provides a comprehensive test of sodium-ion batteries, including charge/discharge curves, energy density comparison, and safety aspects.
The author's excitement about finding sodium-ion cells for sale and the intention to test their authenticity and performance.
The discussion on the potential of sodium-ion batteries to revolutionize battery technology due to their cost-effectiveness and abundance.
The practical demonstration of how to set up and use a battery tester for examining the charge/discharge curves of both lithium and sodium-ion batteries.
The exploration of the safety advantages of sodium-ion batteries, which are less prone to fire and explosion compared to lithium-ion batteries.
Transcripts
Now these two batteries here look about the same, right?
But while they both can provide portable energy for your laptop, vacuum cleaner or for example
cordless power tool; their inner composition it totally different.
You see this one is made up of lithium and this one is made up of sodium.
And yes; this is very exciting because while lithium is a scarce resource that is also
quite pricey, sodium is not rare and thus also a lot cheaper.
I mean normal table salt aka sodium chloride is made up of around 40% sodium.
And for months now I have seen videos on YouTube talking about that such Salt batteries aka
Sodium-ion ones will be the future of battery technology; but no one actually tested a real
one yet.
So I was very excited to find these cells for sale on AliExpress and I know what you're
thinking; But no, they are not fake.
And in this video I will show you exactly why I think they are real and more importantly
do a bunch tests in order to ultimately tell you whether you should from now on, only use
these salt batteries instead of common lithium-ion ones.
Let's get started!
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Now first off when looking at these two batteries, there is obviously no way to tell whether
this one is really sodium based.
One possible way to find that out though is of course cutting it open and looking inside.
But because I tried the exact same thing in a previous video and had no idea what I was
looking at because I am not a chemist; we should probably instead focus on an electrical
method.
One of them is called charge/discharge curve meaning we charge and discharge the battery
while monitoring its voltage and flowing current.
So let's do just that starting with the lithium battery by firstly adding tabs to its plus
and minus pole and then checking its datasheet to find out how it wants to get treated.
And it seems like its standard charge is 1.25A up to a voltage of 4.2V and for the discharge
we
can do a maximum of 20A down to 2.5V; but I wanted to keep it low and thus settled for
2.5A. With that in mind I set up my Battery Tester,
hooked up the battery, adjusted the current and voltage values in the software and began
with the charging process which after around 2 hours gave me this curve.
So next it was discharge curve time; which after around 1 hour looked like this and if
we put them side by side then we can see a very typical lithium based curve which not
only applies to such lithium-ion cells, but also LiPo ones and big Lithium Iron Phosphate
ones.
So next let's compare it to the supposedly sodium ion batteries for which I also hooked
one up to the battery tester and set its charging voltage and current to 4V and 1.3A just like
the datasheet recommends it and its discharge current to 2.6A down to this time 1.8V.
And after once again waiting for a few hours, I was greeted with these curves here which
without a doubt look quite a bit different than the lithium-ion ones and do correspond
with sodium-ion curves you can find in scientific reports which is enough prove for me.
But which curve is now better, you might ask?
Well, the main big difference is that the lithium battery comes with a narrower voltage
plateau where the battery spits out its energy which is around 4V to 3.4V.
The sodium one on the other hand has a wider one between 3.9V and around 2.1V
This has the advantage that you can more easily determine how much charge is left in your
battery, while lithium based ones often have to keep track of how much current goes in
and out of the battery to determine its State of Charge.
But then again when you got a load that needs a constant power, then its is definitely easier
to work with a more stable voltage because then the current also stays around the same.
With a more decreasing voltage though, the current has to constantly rise to get the
same output power and thus your power electronics have to be designed this way which can be
a bit more expensive.
So yeah, both curves have their pros and cons; but what is a definite disadvantage is that
while both batteries come with the same size, the sodium one can only deliver around 4.06Wh
of energy while the lithium one can do 8.7Wh which is more than double.
Of course when digging a bit online you can find sodium cells with slightly higher capacity,
but certainly not as high as lithium based batteries at the same size.
And that directly brings me to the energy density comparison for which I checked the
volume, weight and price of one sodium-ion cell and added those information to my battery
comparison chart.
And as you can see sodium-ion can only barely rival lithium iron phosphate when it comes
to energy density while being quite a bit more expensive.
But I bet that will soon change due to the low price of the material and is currently
only so high because it is a new technology that is not quite in mass production yet.
And speaking of new technology; there also do not exist dedicated charging ICs for sodium-Ion
batteries yet which are definitely mandatory though because of the different charging voltage.
But the good news is that with an ordinary LM317 adjustable voltage regulator, you can
pretty easily build up a crude constant voltage constant current charger according to the
schematic given in its datasheet.
With this resistor value we should get a maximum of 1.3A and with this resistor voltage divider
an output voltage of 4V which according to my tests was all pretty close and thus suitable
for my sodium-ion battery.
And if you want to put multiple cells in series in order to form a powerful battery pack,
then you also need a Battery Management System aka BMS to keep each individual cell safe
from overcharge and over discharge which now also needs to work with other voltage levels.
But thankfully there appears to already exist a commercial version.
So yeah, new technology obviously comes with some challenges; but for now let's switch
back to our raw cells here and the very important question how fast we can charge them up and
discharge them.
Now when looking in the datasheets then we can easily figure out that the max values
are way bigger for the lithium based battery.
To prove this, I powered up my new batteryÂ
tester which can measure the internal DC resistance
of a battery, by basically comparing how much its voltage drops when more and more current
flows.
After doing this test with both batteries you can see that the sodium one features a
33% higher internal resistance, meaning that due to its chemical structure it produces
more heat when more current flows.
That obviously limits its input and output power capabilities; but while that sounds
bad those values are still very close to those of lithium iron phosphate batteries and you
know, those get used as energy storages for houses and also in electric cars.
But while this chemistry does not allow for maximum power, it certainly improves the safety
aspect.
I mean when looking up lithium-ion videos on YouTube, then there are plenty where fire
and explosions are involved including my own one from almost 10 years ago.
But when browsing through the sodium-ion datasheet,Â
then you can always read that no fire or explosion
took place which I know would definitely be interesting to test on my own.
But honestly speaking I was a bit too scared to do that.
So instead I recommend you to watch this video which summarized, ended with the cells flying
around but not creating an explosion or fire.
And last but not least we got the topic of cycle life meaning how often I can discharge
and charge up the battery before it is losing capacity.
And according to the datasheet the sodium battery does 1000 cycles while maintaining
85% of its capacity, while the lithium battery only comes with 60% after 250 cycles which
is a huge difference.
And with that being said, I think we discovered the most important advantages and disadvantages
when it comes to this new battery technology.
So do I think we should now all replace all of our lithium-ion batteries?
Well, definitely not because I feel like sodium-ionÂ
is electrically more similar to lithium iron
phosphate and I hope to see it sooner or later become its replacement so that we finally
can have a more environmental friendly battery.
So time to play the waiting game; but while doing that, feel free to check out some of
my other videos or my Patreon in order to keep this show going.
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Stay creative and I will see you next time.
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