VILE! Full Deep Dive: The Heinous Murders of Two Innocent Kansas Mothers by "God's Misfits"

Annie Elise x 10 to LIFE
14 May 202453:54

Summary

TLDRThe video script details the chilling case of two missing mothers, Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelly, who vanished while traveling to pick up Veronica's children from a birthday party in rural Oklahoma. The case took a sinister turn when their abandoned car was found with signs of violence, leading to the involvement of the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation (OSBI). As the investigation unfolded, it revealed a complex backdrop of a bitter custody battle between Veronica and her ex, Wrangler Rickman, and the involvement of a group called 'God's Misfits,' with beliefs that put them at odds with the US Constitution. The narrative describes the arrest of four individuals, including Tiffany Adams, the grandmother of Veronica's children, and the subsequent arrest of a fifth person, all charged with murder, kidnapping, and conspiracy to commit murder. The summary underscores the tragedy of the children left behind and the failure of the adults involved to prioritize their well-being.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿ“… The case involves two missing moms, Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelly, who disappeared on March 30th, 2024 in rural Oklahoma.
  • ๐Ÿš” The women's car was found abandoned, leading to an immediate investigation by the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation (OSBI) due to concerning evidence at the scene.
  • ๐Ÿ‘ถ Veronica was involved in a contentious custody battle with her ex-partner, Wrangler Rickman, over their two children.
  • ๐Ÿ” Despite Wrangler's initial suspicion due to the custody dispute, he had a strong alibi as he was in rehab at the time of the disappearance.
  • ๐Ÿšจ Suspicion later shifted to Tiffany Adams, the grandmother of Veronica's children, who was known to be possessive and had a history of threats towards Veronica.
  • ๐Ÿ”— The investigation uncovered an anti-government religious group called 'God's Misfits,' which some of the suspects were a part of, potentially influencing their actions.
  • ๐Ÿ“ฑ Digital evidence, including cell phone records and Google search history of the suspects, played a crucial role in the investigation.
  • ๐Ÿ’ฅ A witness account from a daughter of two of the suspects provided significant details about the group's intentions and attempts on Veronica's life.
  • ๐Ÿ”ฎ The group's belief system, which revolved around being American State Nationals with a distrust of the government and constitution, may have contributed to their actions.
  • ๐Ÿšง Tiffany and her associates were charged with murder, kidnapping, and conspiracy to commit murder, with the potential for the death penalty if convicted.
  • ๐ŸŒฑ The case highlights the tragic consequences of custody disputes and the impact on innocent children caught in the middle of such conflicts.

Q & A

  • What was the case discussed in the episode of '10 to life' with Annie and Elise?

    -The case discussed was about the disappearance of two mothers, Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelly, in rural Oklahoma on March 30th, 2024.

  • What was the significance of the abandoned blue Kia SUV found by Veronica's relatives?

    -The abandoned blue Kia SUV was significant because it was the car Veronica and Jillian were in when they went missing, and its discovery led to the involvement of the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation.

  • What were the speculations surrounding the disappearance of Veronica and Jillian?

    -Speculations included involvement in a custody battle, potential threats from Veronica's ex-partner Wrangler or his family, and the possibility of foul play due to the rural and lawless nature of the area.

  • What was the custody dispute between Veronica and Wrangler like?

    -The custody dispute was tumultuous, with accusations from both sides, including substance abuse, aggression, child endangerment, and false allegations. Wrangler was eventually granted full custody, with Veronica limited to supervised visits.

  • How did Veronica's life appear to change before her disappearance?

    -Veronica had turned her life around before her disappearance. She was engaged, in a stable relationship, took over a local business, and was attending college to become a surgical technician.

  • What was the role of Jillian Kelly in Veronica's life?

    -Jillian Kelly was a pastor's wife and a mentor to Veronica. She was a positive role model and helped Veronica work through her custody issues.

  • Who were the main suspects in the disappearance and subsequent murder of Veronica and Jillian?

    -The main suspects were Tiffany Adams, the grandmother of Veronica's children, and her boyfriend Tad, along with their friends Cole, Kora, and later Paul GCE, who were all part of an anti-government group called 'God's Misfits'.

  • What evidence led to the arrest of the suspects?

    -Digital and forensic evidence, including cell phone records, Google search history, purchases of stun guns and prepaid cell phones, and witness testimonies, led to the arrest of the suspects.

  • What was the motive behind the murders according to the investigation?

    -The motive was believed to be a custody dispute over Veronica's children, with Tiffany wanting full control and being willing to eliminate Veronica to achieve that.

  • How did the beliefs of the 'God's Misfits' group influence their actions?

    -The group's anti-government and religious beliefs, which included considering themselves above the law and not bound by the U.S. Constitution, may have influenced their decision to commit the murders and their perception of being entitled to the children.

  • What was the outcome for the suspects after their arrest?

    -All five suspects were charged with two counts of first-degree murder, two counts of kidnapping, and one count of conspiracy to commit murder. They all pleaded not guilty and were held without bond.

Outlines

00:00

๐ŸŽฅ Introduction to the Missing Moms Case

The video begins with the host, Annie, welcoming viewers to a new episode of '10 to life,' where she discusses a case she initially covered on her podcast. The case involves two missing women from rural Oklahoma, Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelly, which garnered nationwide attention. Their disappearance led to an immediate police investigation and involvement of the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation, as the circumstances were indicative of foul play. Despite rumors and speculation, the host aims to provide a comprehensive overview of the known facts, debunk misinformation, and delve into the complexities of the case.

05:01

๐Ÿ‘ค Backgrounds of Veronica and Jillian

The second paragraph provides detailed backgrounds of Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelly. Veronica, a 27-year-old with two children, had a tumultuous relationship with the father of her children, Wrangler Rickman. Jillian, a 39-year-old pastor's wife with blonde hair and blue eyes, was accompanying Veronica to pick up her children. The narrative describes Veronica's physical appearance, her relationship with Wrangler, and the custody agreement in place. It also outlines the journey the women were on when they disappeared, including the planned pickup of Veronica's children from an agreed-upon location.

10:03

๐Ÿ” The Search and Speculation

After the women went missing, a search ensued, but the police were notably inactive, leading to community speculation. The Oklahoma Bureau of Investigation (OSBI) became involved, hinting at foul play. The lack of information from authorities fueled rumors. The video discusses the community's reaction, the involvement of the media, and how the case captured public attention. It also touches upon the personal lives of Veronica and Wrangler, including their custody battle and the speculation that Wrangler might be involved, despite his alibi.

15:05

๐Ÿ  The Custody Battle and Veronica's Transformation

This section delves into the custody battle between Veronica and Wrangler. It outlines the accusations and counter-accusations made by both parties, the involvement of Child Protective Services (CPS), and the eventual granting of full custody to Wrangler. Despite this, Veronica had turned her life around by March 2024, with a stable relationship, a business, and educational pursuits. She was actively involved in her children's lives during her supervised visits and was engaged in a new custody fight for extended visitation rights.

20:06

๐Ÿšจ The Arrests and Evidence

On April 13th, law enforcement arrested four individuals in connection with the disappearance: Tiffany, Tad, Cole, and Kora. The affidavit released detailed evidence including the discovery of a broken window, blood, Veronica's glasses, and a bloody hammer near the abandoned car. Digital evidence contradicted Tiffany's alibi, and the police found that Tiffany had purchased stun guns and prepaid cell phones. The narrative also includes the formation of an anti-government religious group called 'God's Misfits' and their potential involvement in the crime.

25:07

๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿ‘งโ€๐Ÿ‘ฆ The Impact on the Families and Community

The video concludes with the impact of the disappearance on the families and the community. It discusses the devastation felt by Veronica and Jillian's families and the broader implications for the children involved. The host reflects on the tragedy and the failure of the adults involved to prioritize the children's well-being. The video ends with a call for selflessness and a reminder of the children's innocence amidst the turmoil. The host promises to keep the audience updated on the case as it develops.

Mindmap

Keywords

๐Ÿ’กCustody Battle

A custody battle refers to the legal dispute between parents over the rights and responsibilities for their children, particularly in cases of separation or divorce. In the video, Veronica and Wrangler were engaged in a tumultuous custody battle over their children, which is a central theme as it is suggested to be a possible motive behind the women's disappearance.

๐Ÿ’กMissing Persons

Missing persons describes individuals who have disappeared and whose whereabouts are unknown, often prompting an investigation. The video revolves around the case of two missing moms, Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelly, whose mysterious disappearance becomes a significant news story and the focus of the investigation.

๐Ÿ’กOklahoma State Bureau of Investigation (OSBI)

The OSBI is a state law enforcement agency in Oklahoma responsible for investigating major crimes. In the context of the video, the OSBI is called in to assist with the case due to the severity and potential foul play involved in the disappearance of Veronica and Jillian, highlighting the seriousness of the situation.

๐Ÿ’กRural Oklahoma

Rural Oklahoma refers to the less populated, countryside areas of the state. The video mentions rural Oklahoma to describe the setting of the disappearance, emphasizing the isolation and difficulty in finding clues or leads in such a vast and sparsely populated region.

๐Ÿ’กPodcast

A podcast is a digital audio program that a user can download or stream. In the video, the host mentions their podcast where they initially covered the case, indicating an additional medium through which the story was disseminated and highlighting the multi-platform nature of modern storytelling.

๐Ÿ’กSleep Blend

A sleep blend refers to a mixture of ingredients that aid in promoting sleep. The video includes an advertisement for a sleep blend called 'Dream,' which the host endorses, illustrating the commercial aspect of online content and the host's personal endorsement of products that are relevant to their audience's lifestyle.

๐Ÿ’กPastor's Wife

A pastor's wife is the spouse of a religious leader, typically of a Christian church. Jillian Kelly, one of the missing women, is noted to be a pastor's wife, which adds a layer of community involvement and social status to her character and the overall case, potentially influencing public perception and empathy.

๐Ÿ’กCriminal Conspiracy

Criminal conspiracy is an agreement between two or more persons to commit a criminal act. The video discusses a conspiracy involving multiple suspects, known as 'God's Misfits,' who are alleged to have conspired to commit murder, which is a critical element of the criminal case presented.

๐Ÿ’กAmerican State Nationals

American State Nationals is a term used by some groups to denote a belief in living under 'God's law' rather than recognizing the authority of the U.S. federal government. The video describes some suspects' affiliation with this belief system, which is relevant to understanding their motive and ideology behind the crimes.

๐Ÿ’กBurner Phones

Burner phones are prepaid mobile phones often used for temporary purposes and discarded afterward. In the context of the video, the suspects are said to have used burner phones, which is a common tactic in criminal activities to avoid detection and traceability.

๐Ÿ’กGod's Misfits

God's Misfits is the name given to a group of individuals allegedly involved in the crime. The group's name and their beliefs are significant as they may have influenced the motive and execution of the crimes, adding a layer of complexity to the case.

Highlights

Annie discusses a complex case involving two missing moms, Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelly, in rural Oklahoma.

The case first gained attention when the women disappeared after planning to pick up Veronica's children for a birthday party.

Veronica's ex-partner, Wrangler Rickman, had full custody of their children due to a volatile past relationship and his substance abuse issues.

Wrangler was in rehab at the time of the disappearance, providing him with a strong alibi.

Tiffany Adams, the grandmother of Veronica's children and Wrangler's mother, becomes a person of interest due to her aggressive nature and custody disputes.

Digital evidence contradicts Tiffany's claims about the cancellation of the meeting with Veronica, casting doubt on her initial statements.

An informant from an anti-government religious group called 'God's Misfits' provides critical information about the group's intentions towards Veronica.

The group's ideology is explored, including their rejection of the U.S. Constitution and belief in living under God's law.

Tiffany and her associates are arrested, and an affidavit details their alleged involvement in the disappearance and potential murder of the two women.

The bodies of Veronica and Jillian are found in a buried grave on land associated with one of the suspects, Tad.

All suspects plead not guilty, and the possibility of the death penalty is raised.

The role of the 'God's Misfits' group in the crime is debated, with some suggesting their extremist beliefs may have influenced the murders.

The impact of the tragedy on the children involved and the broader community is discussed, emphasizing the importance of putting children's welfare first.

Annie calls for selflessness and prioritizes the well-being of children in custody disputes, highlighting the failure of adults in this case.

The case is ongoing, with potential future developments expected as investigations continue.

Transcripts

00:00

hey everybody welcome back to an all new

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episode of 10 to life with me Annie

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Elise boy oh boy man do we have a case

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to talk about today it's one that I

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first covered over on my podcast on one

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of the Thursday episodes which if you

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follow the podcast you know for the

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Monday episodes I usually cross post

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them a few days later on YouTube but we

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do also do a Thursday episode every

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single week that is exclusive to the

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podcast and it's where we talk about all

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the updates that are going on in the

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week new cases um breaking news and

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existing cases all of those things so

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even if you're not a podcast listener I

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would highly suggest checking that out

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because um you won't get those over on

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YouTube but anyway my point in saying

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all that sorry I'm itchy was that we

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covered this in one of the Thursday

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episodes and there really wasn't a lot

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of information known at the time but

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then more information started getting

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released it was kind of like a holy [ย __ย ]

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is this really happening moment but then

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you know when we did like our Mega deep

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dive over here on the tend to life team

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we uncovered so much more which kind of

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blows my mind because I feel like a lot

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of people aren't talking about all of

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the different complexities and details

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now you're probably like K Annie shut up

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just tell us what the heck you're

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talking about today what's the case it's

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the case of the two missing moms so let

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me break this down for you back on March

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30th 2024 two women in rural rural

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Oklahoma gosh I always have a hard time

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saying that word rural rural rural can't

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do it rural Oklahoma they were reported

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missing their names were Veronica Butler

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and Jillian Kelly now right away their

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disappearance became a huge news story I

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mean people all over the country were

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following every single development in

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this case within just a few hours of

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them going missing the car that they

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were in a blue Kia SUV was found

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abandoned right on the side of the road

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so family members who found the car they

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contacted the police right away and when

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the investigators arrived on the scene

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what they found was so concerning that

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they immediately contacted the Oklahoma

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State Bureau of Investigation now only a

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few details were released to the public

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at that time but the investigators

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definitely thought that Jillian and

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Veronica were in danger so weeks went by

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and law enforcement barely shared any

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information at all now naturally this of

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course meant that people started

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speculating on their own and the rumors

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they began swirling Mega overtime but

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eventually some answers came and these

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answers were shocking to say the least

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now as I said this case has created a

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lot of speculation and also some

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misinformation but today I wanted to

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give you guys a full overview of The

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Facts of everything that we know so far

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everything that we don't and the Nitty

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we were researching so hopefully this

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video can help clear up some of the

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confusion but there really is a lot to

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27-year-old Veronica Butler and

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39-year-old Jillian Kelly were driving

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from Hugoton Kansas to go and pick up

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Veronica's kids Veronica had two

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children a 6-year-old and an 8-year-old

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and she had these children with

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26-year-old Wrangler Rickman Veronica

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also had very long wavy reddish blonde

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hair green eyes and was a little bit of

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a curvy build Jillian was blonde with

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blue eyes and she kept her hair in this

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face framing Bob with bangs now at the

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time of Veronica's disappearance she and

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her ex Wrangler had been separated for

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quite some time they were never married

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and at that point both of them were in

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relationships with other people now at

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the time Wrangler had full custody of

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their two kids Wrangler lived outside of

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Keys Oklahoma and Veronica lived in

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hugan Kansas now even though they were

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in different states the Two Towns were

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less than an hour away from one another

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right on the bordering Edge so if

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Veronica ever wanted to drive to Keys

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like she was on the day that she went

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missing she had to drive along

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Oklahoma's Panhandle now this was a very

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rural going to try and say it again guys

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this is a very rural area that bordered

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four other states Kansas Texas Colorado

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and New Mexico so we'll be talking about

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different areas across state lines but

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they are all very close and Pro X imity

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to one another so anyways Veronica was

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allowed one supervised visit per week it

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was also always on Saturdays from 8:

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a.m. to 5:00 p.m. there were a few

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people who had all been approved by the

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court to be involved in these

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visitations who were allowed to

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accompany Veronica during these visits

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and Jullian Kelly was one of those

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people however most of the time the

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visits were supervised by a woman named

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Cheryl Brun now the problem was that on

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March 30th Cheryl wasn't available so

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Jillian who also happened to be a

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pastor's wife who Veronica had met

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through the church went with her to go

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pick up her children now that day

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Veronica wasn't meeting with her ex

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Wrangler instead she was supposed to see

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his mom and the kid's grandmother

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Tiffany Adams now the reason for this

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was because Wrangler was actually in

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rehab at the time and therefore he was

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unable to take care of the kids himself

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since he had full custody as I mentioned

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he had his mom take care of the kids

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while he went in for treatment so this

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meant that she was supposed to make sure

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that Veronica got them during her visit

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remember she had visitation every single

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week now Veronica had one particular

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place where she would always meet up

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with either Wrangler or Tiffany to you

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know exchange the kids and this meeting

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location was an abandoned Four Corners

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gas station in Eva Oklahoma and Eva is

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about a 45-minute drive from hugan and

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about a 25 minute drive from keys so

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Veronica and Jillian planned to head

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there pick up the kids and then take

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them to a family birthday party in

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Kansas all before bringing them back to

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Oklahoma later that evening so everybody

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was expecting Veronica and Jillian to

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show up to the party with the kids late

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in the morning on Saturday but the thing

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was they never showed up Veronica's

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family tried contacting her but they

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couldn't get a hold of her so they

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immediately of course became worried by

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this I mean Veronica wouldn't miss this

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and she definitely would have told them

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if something had changed within her

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plans so two of Veronica's relatives got

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in their car and they went off searching

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for her they knew where she was planning

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to meet Tiffany to pick up the kids and

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they knew knew the General Route that

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she took from Hugon to this abandoned

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gas station and like I said it was a

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very rural area so most of these towns

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along it like Eva aren't actually really

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even real towns I mean think more of

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something like a couple of buildings in

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the same general area so it wasn't like

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Veronica and Jillian could get lost or

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even stuck in traffic certainly not So

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eventually as Veronica's relatives were

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driving around and looking for her they

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found Jillian's blue Kia SUV it was

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abandoned on a dirt road that was just

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off the road that they had been driving

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on but Jillian and Veronica were nowhere

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in sight there were also miles and miles

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of wide open space all around but there

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was no trace of the women so it was very

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very concerning to say the least so

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Veronica's relatives immediately called

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the police now while all of this was

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going on Jillian's husband and

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Veronica's fiance were also starting to

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get pretty nervous neither of them had

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heard from their partners and they

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actually went out looking for them too

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and they both ended up calling the

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police individually and Reporting the

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women is missing by the time that they

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found Jillian's car it was already

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surrounded by detectives and different

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investigators who had already responded

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to that first call though so right away

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the police put out an endangered missing

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advisory for the women and around the

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same time the police also called in the

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Oklahoma Bureau of Investigation also

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known as the OSBI they wanted them to

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help with finding these missing women

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then word of Veronica and Julian's

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disappearance spread through the area

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like wildfire guys I mean something

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about this disappearance seemed

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especially Sinister especially because

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the OSBI was brought in so quickly the

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police weren't talking too much about

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what exactly they saw in the car to make

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them so worried or make them so

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convinced that the women were in danger

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but people were definitely spooked V

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searched this evening for two mothers

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who are missing one of them a pastor's

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wife they vanished on the way to pick up

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one of the mother's children the car

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they were in has been found in Oklahoma

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here's ABC's Victor

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Kendo tonight the Urgent search along

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the Kansas Oklahoma border for two

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missing mothers who vanished the day

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before Easter while driving to pick up

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children they're gone um and nobody

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knows where they exactly went

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39-year-old Jillian Kelly the wife of a

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pastor at First Christian Church in

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Hugon Kansas was traveling with

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27-year-old Veronica Butler according to

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Butler's Church the two women were on

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their way to get Butler's children for a

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birthday party but they never made the

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pickup it appears that uh this was not a

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willing incident on their own to have

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taken off it looks to be that there's

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something more involved Butler's blue

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Kia found abandoned on the side of the

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road about 40 Mi away in rural Texas

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County Oklahoma there's every reason to

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uh believe that that they they could be

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in danger at an Easter Service prayers

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for their safe return we're going to

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wrap our arms around the Kelly Family

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we're going to love them Lord we lift up

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Jill Ian we lift up Veronica we pray for

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their

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safety the pastor at Butler's Church

12:06

describes the women more like

12:07

acquaintances than friends tonight their

12:09

Community will gather for a vigil now if

12:11

someone goes missing like this you

12:13

usually expect that the next move will

12:15

be for the police to search the area

12:17

around the car right but a lot of locals

12:20

already had their doubts about whether

12:21

they would be able to find anything this

12:24

specific area was so Rural and so open

12:27

and empty so something really bad had

12:30

happened to the women their bodies could

12:32

have been hidden anywhere so the day

12:35

after they were announced as missing

12:36

several people from the area went to

12:38

help the police search I mean they

12:40

figured that they needed all the help

12:41

they could get but they found that the

12:43

police weren't actually searching at all

12:46

it was really weird especially given

12:49

what a big news story this disappearance

12:51

already was I mean you would fully

12:53

expect the authorities to have all these

12:55

teams on the ground in helicopters using

12:57

scent dogs I mean drones something so

13:00

the fact that the police weren't really

13:01

looking for Jillian and Veronica was

13:04

kind of a clue and led people to believe

13:06

that they knew more than they were

13:07

letting on in fact by April 3rd the OSBI

13:11

officially released a statement saying

13:13

that they had found evidence around the

13:15

vehicle that made them think Foul Play

13:17

was involved however they were pretty

13:19

vague and they didn't have a ton of

13:21

details to share with the public even

13:22

though they gave this announcement after

13:25

hearing this people became extremely

13:27

scared and worried the police had

13:29

basically just said that there was some

13:31

kind of attacker or killer on the loose

13:34

even though they said that the person

13:35

didn't pose a threat to the community it

13:37

was very reasonable to be wondering who

13:39

was going to be next so I'm sure that

13:41

you could see this coming but people

13:43

started developing their own theories

13:45

about what had happened and like I said

13:47

it was a very very rural area with a

13:49

very small town kind of feel everybody

13:52

knew everybody and everybody knew

13:54

everybody else's business so basically

13:57

lots of people were talking and lots of

13:59

people were already well aware that

14:01

Veronica and Wrangler had been going

14:03

through a pretty nasty custody battle

14:05

for several several years and a lot of

14:08

them thought that that was probably part

14:10

of the motive for whatever happened here

14:12

so let's talk about Veronica and

14:14

Wrangler and about their relationship

14:16

where things went sour and the custody

14:19

dispute so Veronica and Wrangler had

14:21

first started dating sometime around

14:23

2015 the year that Veronica graduated

14:26

high school from the start the

14:27

relationship was very volatile Wrangler

14:31

had a substance abuse issue I mean he

14:33

was a pretty nice guy when he was sober

14:35

but he could become extremely aggressive

14:36

when he was under the influence of drugs

14:38

or alcohol the relationship itself was

14:41

on again and off again but Veronica

14:43

found out that she was pregnant during

14:44

one of those on periods so she gave

14:47

birth to their first child a son in

14:49

December of

14:50

2015 they continued to date after their

14:53

son was born and they really tried to

14:54

make the relationship work then in April

14:57

of 2018 Veronica gave gave birth to

14:59

their daughter however all through this

15:02

whole time their relationship was really

15:04

bad and really toxic Wrangler had anger

15:07

issues as I mentioned and could get very

15:10

aggressive so finally they broke up for

15:12

good in December of 2018 a few months

15:16

later in February of 2019 Wrangler filed

15:19

for joint custody between himself and

15:21

Veronica but at the time he said that he