ROBBED! MAN CITY 3-1 MANCHESTER UNITED! GOLDBRIDGE Reaction
Summary
TLDRThis video script is a passionate and heated post-match reaction to the Manchester Derby between Manchester United and Manchester City. The speaker vehemently argues that United were robbed by poor refereeing decisions, contending that two of City's goals should have been disallowed due to fouls. However, he also acknowledges that United's attacking players, apart from the first 20 minutes, were largely ineffective and failed to create chances. While critical of the officials, the speaker emphasizes that United's inability to have all 11 players perform at a high level was the primary reason for their defeat against the superior City side.
Takeaways
- ๐ก The speaker is extremely frustrated with the refereeing decisions, believing Manchester United were 'robbed' of points due to inconsistent calls against them.
- ๐ He strongly criticizes the decisions not to award a penalty for a foul on Rashford and the decision to allow Edison's challenge on Garnacho to stand, feeling the rules were not applied fairly.
- โฝ Despite conceding defeat, he felt Manchester United's tactics and defensive organization were good for large parts of the match.
- ๐ He praises the performances of Varane, Dalot, Evans, Casemiro, and Antony, believing they put in strong individual showings worthy of at least a 7/10 rating.
- ๐ However, he is highly critical of the attacking players like Rashford, Garnacho, Fernandes, and McTominay, feeling they were largely ineffective after the first 20 minutes and squandered chances.
- ๐คทโโ๏ธ He expresses confusion at Rashford's inability to consistently perform at a high level, despite scoring a good goal early on.
- โ He defends Ten Hag's tactics and team selection, believing the manager's hands were tied due to injuries and lack of squad depth.
- ๐ค He is particularly angry at Amrabat's mistake leading to the third goal, feeling it undid the hard work of the defensive unit.
- ๐ He believes Manchester United's main issue is the inability of the front four to retain possession and create chances consistently, putting immense pressure on the rest of the team.
- โก๏ธ He feels the upcoming games against teams like Everton and Brentford will be more indicative of Ten Hag's future, rather than the loss against the superior Manchester City side.
Q & A
What was the final score of the Manchester Derby?
-The final score was 3-1 in favor of Manchester City.
Did the speaker believe that Manchester United was robbed of a potential result?
-Yes, the speaker strongly felt that Manchester United was robbed due to some refereeing decisions, specifically not giving a foul on Rashford's challenge and the challenge on Gakho by Ederson.
How did the speaker rate the performance of individual Manchester United players?
-The speaker rated the performances of players like Varane, Dalot, Evans, Casemiro, and Maguire positively, giving them ratings between 6.5 and 7 out of 10. However, he was critical of the performances of players like McTominay, Bruno Fernandes, Gakho, Rashford, Antony, and Amrabat, giving them lower ratings.
What did the speaker think about Erik ten Hag's tactics and selection?
-The speaker felt that ten Hag got his tactics and selection right, and there wasn't much else he could have done given the players available. He gave ten Hag a rating of 5 out of 10, mainly criticizing the lack of cohesion and poor ball retention from the front four players.
How did the speaker assess Manchester United's overall performance?
-While acknowledging that Manchester City is a superior team, the speaker felt that Manchester United's performance was let down by the lack of consistent effort from all 11 players. He believed that for United to win such games, every player needed to put in at least a 7 out of 10 performance, which didn't happen.
What was the speaker's opinion on the refereeing decisions?
-The speaker strongly disagreed with two key refereeing decisions - not giving a foul on Rashford's challenge and not considering Ederson's challenge on Gakho as a penalty. He felt these decisions were inconsistent with the usual standards of refereeing.
How did the speaker assess Manchester United's attacking prowess?
-The speaker was critical of Manchester United's attacking play, stating that after the first 20 minutes, they failed to create decent chances or construct effective counter-attacks. He blamed the front four players for their inability to retain possession and lack of cohesion.
What did the speaker think about Amrabat's performance after coming on as a substitute?
-The speaker was highly critical of Amrabat's performance, giving him a rating of 3 out of 10. He felt that Amrabat's mistake led to Manchester City's third goal and that he should have simply cleared the ball away instead of trying to control it in a dangerous area.
How did the speaker view Manchester United's chances in upcoming games?
-The speaker acknowledged that with Rashford's potential return and the absence of key players for Manchester City, the upcoming games against Everton and Brentford would be crucial for Manchester United. He suggested that ten Hag's job could be in jeopardy if United fails to win such games.
What was the overall tone and sentiment of the speaker regarding the match?
-The overall tone of the speaker was one of frustration and disappointment, but also a sense of pragmatism. While critical of certain aspects of Manchester United's performance and the refereeing decisions, he acknowledged the quality of Manchester City and the limitations of the current Manchester United squad.
Outlines
๐คฏ Refereeing Decisions and United's Struggles
The speaker expresses frustration over what he perceives as poor refereeing decisions that went against Manchester United in their derby match against Manchester City. He argues that a foul on Rashford and a potential penalty on Gacho were incorrectly not given. The speaker also criticizes the inconsistent application of rules by the officials. Beyond the refereeing decisions, he acknowledges that United's attacking players underperformed, particularly in the second half, failing to create chances and giving the ball away too easily.
๐ Dissecting United's Performance
The speaker delves deeper into analyzing Manchester United's performance against Manchester City. He highlights the inability of key attackers like Bruno Fernandes, Marcus Rashford, and Jadon Sancho to maintain possession and create meaningful chances after the first 20 minutes. The midfield, particularly Scott McTominay, also struggled. The speaker praises the defensive organization and efforts but laments the lack of threat from the front four, which led to the team's downfall despite their defensive resilience.
๐ง Attacking Woes and Missed Opportunities
The speaker continues to dissect Manchester United's attacking deficiencies in the match against Manchester City. He points out that Chelsea, in a previous draw against City, defended well but also posed a threat on the break and created chances. United, on the other hand, failed to capitalize on their early opportunities and struggled to maintain pressure after the 20th minute. The speaker emphasizes that United's front four consistently give the ball away too easily, relieving pressure on the midfield and defense, and hindering their chances of getting results in important matches.
โ๏ธ Debating the Refereeing Decisions
The speaker doubles down on his stance regarding the controversial refereeing decisions in the match. He strongly believes that the challenges on Rashford and Gacho were fouls and should have resulted in a free kick and a penalty, respectively. He dissects the incidents frame by frame, arguing that the officials' interpretation of the rules was inconsistent and unfair. The speaker also highlights the lack of a consistent application of rules across different matches involving Manchester United and other teams.
๐ฏ Player Ratings and Ten Hag's Tactics
The speaker provides detailed player ratings for the Manchester United squad, evaluating their individual performances. He praises the efforts of players like Raphael Varane, Diogo Dalot, and Casemiro, while criticizing the underwhelming displays from the likes of Bruno Fernandes, Marcus Rashford, and Jadon Sancho. The speaker also defends Erik ten Hag's tactics, suggesting that the manager's approach was reasonable given the opposition and the available personnel. However, he acknowledges that the failure of the front four to maintain possession and create chances ultimately let the team down.
๐ Ten Hag's Predicament and Future Prospects
The speaker assesses Erik ten Hag's performance and the challenges he faces as the Manchester United manager. While acknowledging that Ten Hag's job could be in jeopardy, the speaker argues that the loss against Manchester City should not be the sole factor in evaluating the manager's future. Instead, he believes that Ten Hag's fate will be determined by United's performances in more winnable fixtures against teams like Everton and Brentford. The speaker highlights the limitations of United's squad depth, particularly in the attacking positions, as a mitigating factor for Ten Hag's struggles.
๐ด Final Thoughts and Moving Forward
In the final paragraph, the speaker reiterates his assessment of the match, emphasizing the need for Manchester United's attacking players to improve their decision-making and ball retention. He acknowledges the frustration of the result but maintains that Erik ten Hag's tactics were reasonable given the circumstances. The speaker encourages fans to move on from the loss and focus on upcoming matches, where United's performances will be crucial in determining Ten Hag's future at the club.
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Keywords
๐กRobbery
๐กOfficiating
๐กTactics
๐กPerformances
๐กCamaraderie
๐กPossession
๐กBench
๐กCommitment
๐กResponsibility
๐กFrustration
Highlights
I think they were robbed I'll explain why for you I know some people don't agree with me but I'm I'm not changing my mind and I've actually took a couple of minutes on purpose to watch them back and see if the red tented glasses need removing
I thought two of man City's goals were totally preventable by officials who just seem to be so inconsistent and it's the second Manchester d in a row where I think a ridiculous decision is done is over hiling on rodri at Old Trafford never seen a penalty given like it before, never seen one since and then today
he gives a foul on Delo for the same thing that happens to rashford whether it's soft or not, whether Gary Neville thinks it's a foul or not they always get given when you're outside the box and somebody pulls you back you take a tumble it's a foul it should have been given it wasn't given, they go up the other end and they score
as for the Edison one I've want at no point am I going to be changing my mind on this because I keep watching it, I keep watching it and all I see is and watch it back all I see is Edison out of control off the ground two feet wide open stood up gets the ball and then cleans out gono you do that in the center circle the crowd would go crazy, and it' get it be a red card
all people are saying to me is it's a good tackle he gets the ball it's a good tackle and I'm like look watch it back if you think that we don't get that's not a foul and we don't get yellow cards and red cards for that I don't know where I've been for the last six years it's the last man tackle he gets the ball but he's out of control his legs are like a pair of scissors he wraps them around the player afterwards he cleans him out his studs are up I I think it's a penalty
I said before the game for Manchester United to win this game every player has to play a seven out of 10 you know you're up against the best team in the world at their place in a derby if you want to win this game every player has got to put in at least a seven out of 10
in that season with Rio and vidit and Ronaldo and Rooney and TZ and Carrick, and gigs and skulls and vesar in that season at Old Trafford in the February, we lost 2-1 to Manchester City who had the greats of Richard dun diet Haman and vasel and benjani scored so you know, it's not impossible to go and get a result in a Manchester Derby away from home and we've done it in the past but what H what has to happen what has to happen is you have to have 11 players that play well
I actually think that I I predicted 2-0 to Man City it finished 3-1 so I predicted it right I I thought Man City would be two goals better than us we've not been stuffed five or six nil which I don't think was ever going to happen some people predicted that I don't think it was ever going to happen, um we've we've lost 3-1 2- nil whatever you want to call it
but absolutely categorically you've got to call out some individual players because when we do the player ratings not everybody got a seven out of 10 and if you go into a derby and you can look in the mirror and you've not given a seven out of 10 then you're responsible
I thought ten hog got his tactics absolutely spot on absolutely spot on we are up against a team that has got no injuries that can keep the ball all game, and that was always going to happen we needed to be compact we needed to be organized and we needed to break well
and in the first 20 minutes we could have been two or 3-0 up rashford scores a brilliant goal one-on-one he should have done better and then on the back post he should have done better for 20 minutes it was fine they were having a lot of the ball we were well organized we were breaking well and from 20 minutes it stopped the defense carried on doing its job the Midfield can carried on being compact Scott mctom disappeared for the whole game Bruno Fernandez became the Bruno Fernandez of the last month where he just can't string a pass together gacho and rashford faded out of the game we I don't think we constructed a decent Breakaway attack after the 20th minute, and that's why we've lost the game
because despite what I thought was some ridiculously inconsistently incompetent officiating and a Absolut you know am rat's done you know I was willing to give him a chance I mean that that's just I don't know what to say and Anthony as well that that that that those those two Off the Bench I mean look you've got to make substitutes you have but [ __ ] hell you know 3121 makes no difference but 3-1 makes it look a lot more convincing than it really was 2-1 would have been the right score I think based on you know the referees of Pratt but 3-1 you know all the hard work of the Defenders and the Midfield out the window because amrabat is [ __ ] useless I mean why does he not just boot the kick the ball away
but um no amongst all all of it I think the most important thing that that I would say is that there are look there's not there's not one five there's not one size that fits all here man city are a fantastically good footballing side we already know this um I've not seen a team go to chel uh Man City in a long time and you know even make them look partially uncomfortable with possession so I'm not really bothered about that I would have done exactly the same tactics that ten hog did and I thought it were well for 20 minutes but lo and behold again United's big problem is we can't get 11 players to play well at the same time um they absolutely let us down in the front four positions
and look I like gacho rashford scored a good goal I like Bruno but it's not acceptable it's the performance is so bad and mctom was really bad but we had to play him because you know set pieces we knew were going to be important but the problem is it's like I almost just think I wish we were playing Everton tomorrow because there's nothing you can do like there isn't anything you can do I look at the bench you've got um the young Defender you've got Cala you've got forson you've got Ahmad you've got Kia and then you've got Anthony and amrabat who get brought on and they're [ __ ] [ __ ] so I'm like it's so frustrating
and I actually saw somebody say you know well it's not acceptable I know we've got injuries but it's not acceptable we should be doing better than that and I'm like but how how are we going to do any better than that like look at the bench you're talking like oh you know we shouldn't pick momy and Bruno because we should be picking Mount and Erikson Erikson's been rubbish for for weeks mount's not fit we've got no Strikers we've got no left back
Transcripts
everybody Welcome to to lose the
Manchester Derby 31 and look that's a
really tough one to take um I do think
they were robbed I'll explain why for
you I know some people don't agree with
me but I'm I'm not changing my mind and
I've actually took a couple of minutes
on purpose to watch them back and see if
the red tented glasses need removing um
but before I talk about why we were
robbed and I thought two of man City's
goals were totally preventable by
officials who just seem to be so
inconsistent and it's the second
Manchester d in a row where I think a
ridiculous decision is done is over
hiling on rodri at Old Trafford never
seen a penalty given like it before
never seen one since and then today um
even in the last minutes he gives a foul
on Delo for the same thing that happens
to rashford whether it's soft or not
whether Gary Neville thinks it's a foul
or not they always get given when you're
outside the box and somebody pulls you
back you take a tumble it's a foul it
should have been given it wasn't given
they go up the other end and they score
and as for the Edison one I've want at
no point am I going to be changing my
mind on this because I keep watching it
I keep watching it and all I see is and
watch it back all I see is Edison out of
control off the ground two feet wide
open stood up gets the ball and then
cleans out gono you do that in the
center circle the crowd would go crazy
and it' get it be a red card and all
people are saying to me is it's a good
tackle he gets the ball it's a good
tackle and I'm
like look watch it back if you think
that we don't get that's not a foul and
we don't get yellow cards and red cards
for that I don't know where I've been
for the last six years it's the last man
tackle he gets the ball but he's out of
control his legs are like a pair of
scissors he wraps them around the player
afterwards he cleans him out his studs
are up I I think it's a penalty I do I
just don't think they've got the balls
to give that in the modern game and I'd
call anybody a a hypocrite who says we
haven't seen fouls given for that and
then amrabat at the end just givs him a
three goal so I think all three goals
are really preventable really
preventable but look we've lost the game
uh you know there's no point in talking
about officials this has been going on
all season it's happened to other clubs
it's happened to Liverpool it's happened
to Arsenal we've lost the game and I
think we've got to look at ourselves as
well and we do play a ratings Mark every
player out of 10 six being the average
um I think the first thing I would say
is that I said before the game for
Manchester United to win this game every
player has to play a seven out of 10 you
know you're up against the best team in
the world at their place in a derby if
you want to win this game every player
has got to put in at least a seven out
of 10 in 2008 Manchester United won the
Champions League and the Premier League
and we should have won the FA Cup dodgy
referee indecision against Portsmouth
knocked us out they went on to win it in
that season with Rio and vidit and
Ronaldo and Rooney and TZ and Carrick
and gigs and skulls and vesar in that
season at Old Trafford in the February
we lost 2-1 to Manchester City who had
the greats of Richard dun diet Haman and
vasel and benjani scored so you know
it's not impossible to go and get a
result in a Manchester Derby away from
home and we've done it in the past but
what H what has to happen what has to
happen is you have to have 11 players
that play well I actually think that I I
predicted 2-0 to Man City it finished
3-1 so I predicted it right I I thought
Man City would be two goals better than
us we've not been stuffed five or six
nil which I don't think was ever going
to happen some people predicted that I
don't think it was ever going to happen
um we've we've lost 3-1 2- nil whatever
you want to call it but
absolutely categorically you've got to
call out some individual players because
when we do the player ratings not
everybody got a seven out of 10 and if
you go into a derby and you can look in
the mirror and you've not given a seven
out of 10 then you're responsible I
thought ten hog got his tactics
absolutely spot on absolutely spot on we
are up against a team that has got no
injuries that can keep the ball all game
and that was always going to happen we
needed to be compact we needed to be
organized and we needed to break well
and in the first 20 minutes we could
have been two or 3-0 up rashford scores
a brilliant goal one-on-one he should
have done better and then on the back
post he should have done better for 20
minutes it was fine they were having a
lot of the ball we were well organized
we were breaking well and from 20
minutes it stopped the defense carried
on doing its job the Midfield can
carried on being compact Scott mctom
disappeared for the whole game Bruno
Fernandez became the Bruno Fernandez of
the last month where he just can't
string a pass together gacho and
rashford faded out of the game we I
don't think we constructed a decent
Breakaway attack after the 20th minute
and that's why we've lost the game
because there are bad refereeing
decisions in there of course there are
whether we disagree or agree on them I
think there are I think you know they
scored straight after the rashford foul
they scored straight after what should
have been a penalty and amrabat made a
big mistake if I'm a Defender I'm fuming
but I'd also be in the dressing room as
the manager or as somebody like Rafel
Varan and I'd say we've worked our ass
off today I know I've put in a seven out
of 10 I know Johnny Evans did I know
Delo did I know Mayu did I know casmiro
did you [ย __ย ] didn't you didn't you
didn't and you didn't you can't come to
the EAD and defend with you know 18%
possession and do nothing after 20
minutes going forward and I'll tell you
what I sawers have the ball in position
where we could have played people in and
you're doing little [ย __ย ] flick flicks
and shitty passes that is why we've not
got something from this game today
because despite what I thought was some
ridiculously inconsistently incompetent
officiating and a Absolut you know am
rat's done you know I was willing to
give him a chance I mean that that's
just I don't know what to say and
Anthony as well that that that that
those those two Off the Bench I mean
look you've got to make substitutes you
have but [ย __ย ] hell you know 3121
makes no difference but 3-1 makes it
look a lot more convincing than it
really was 2-1 would have been the right
score I think based on you know the
referees of Pratt but 3-1 you know all
the hard work of the Defenders and the
Midfield out the window because amrabat
is [ย __ย ] useless I mean why does he
not just boot the kick the ball away but
um no amongst all all of it I think the
most important thing that that I would
say is that there are look there's not
there's not one five there's not one
size that fits all here man city are a
fantastically good footballing side we
already know this um I've not seen a
team go to chel uh Man City in a long
time and you know even make them
look partially uncomfortable with
possession so I'm not really bothered
about that I would have done exactly the
same tactics that ten hog did and I
thought it were well for 20 minutes but
lo and behold again United's big problem
is we can't get 11 players to play well
at the same time um they absolutely let
us down in the front four positions um
and look I like gacho rashford scored a
good goal I like Bruno but it's not
acceptable it's the performance is so
bad and mctom was really bad but we had
to play him because you know set pieces
we knew were going to be important but
the problem is it's like I almost just
think I wish we were playing Everton
tomorrow because there's nothing you can
do like there isn't anything you can do
I look at the bench you've got um the
young Defender you've got Cala you've
got forson you've got Ahmad you've got
Kia and then you've got Anthony and
amrabat who get brought on and they're
[ย __ย ] [ย __ย ] so I'm like it's so
frustrating and I actually saw somebody
say you know well it's not acceptable I
know we've got injuries but it's not
acceptable we should be doing better
than that and I'm like but how how are
we going to do any better than that like
look at the bench you're talking like oh
you know we shouldn't pick momy and
Bruno because we should be picking Mount
and Erikson Erikson's been rubbish for
for weeks mount's not fit we've got no
Strikers we've got no left back I mean
look if we're being really harsh I think
it's a foul on rashford but Lindelof has
got to do a lot better on foden you
can't let foden cut in and shoot on his
left foot it's crap defending but it's a
center back playing at left back I don't
you know he's got to bring Anthony on
because gacho is not having a good game
he's got to take rashford off because
he's not having a good second half and
then you've got to bring amrabat on and
you've got to bring Anthony on and they
offer absolutely nothing and you can't
be throwing kids on in a game like that
it's not fair like the bench is just got
nothing and and and and you know look I
think against Fulham it was massively
disappointing for different reasons it
was a it was a [ย __ย ] show but I think
today I think ten hog tactically
couldn't have done anything else people
will talk about possession but then
they're they're going to pretend that
Bruno wasn't [ย __ย ] useless that momy
wasn't a ghost that gacha and rashford
really struggled I I watched that second
half and there was at least five
occasions where I felt we could have got
into a position to have a shot and we
didn't um we were so bad in the final
third and actually look I don't take any
comfort in this but it sort of proves
the point of last week the reason Fulham
kept breaking on us at Old Trafford was
because the front four kept giving the
ball away and then in this game the
front four kept giving the ball away at
at some point we've got to look at that
front four and go they're not keeping
hold of the ball and taking the pressure
off the Midfield and the attack and the
defense they lose the ball all the time
and and it's so frustrating you can't do
that the thing that Chelsea did really
well when they got a draw was that they
defended well and we did that we
defended well we did what Chelsea did
but what Chelsea did on the break was
they were a threat every time they they
were clean with the ball they looked
after the ball they played the right
passes at the right time and they
created chances and then they had
something to hold on to and United were
trying to hold on with one goal from the
20th minute it's too long it's way too
long it should have been 2-1 am rats a
pratts but it's still too long it's like
playing the chase we didn't have enough
in the bank that they weren't going to
go past us and I I really think that
United's front four at the moment is a
massive problem they give the ball away
too much and it's it's a massive drop
off without Rasmus in the team it really
really is um look yeah I mean the the
the result is really really frustrating
um you know but I've got to look back
and say harand should have scored before
halftime
um it's it's difficult it's difficult
and and and when rashford scores that
goal you think you know maybe we're
going to get something here um but it
but it would have been it would have
been it probably wouldn't have been
right if we got something because it's a
little bit like anfield you can't just
go and get away with it um more than
once a season and I think we would have
been getting away with it um but
honestly I I think this is if I if I'm s
Jim Radcliffe and I'm watching that as a
man united fan
I'm not looking at the manager based on
that I'm not because it's not to me that
I don't know what what else he can do I
I don't know what else he can do with
the players he's got available I mean as
I
say when we when we do the player
ratings you've got to play well in a
game like that I think every man City
player played well every one of them
played well and half of our team didn't
play well and look I I applaud the
efforts I applaud the unity I mean
that's an improvement I mean if if you
if you want to take positives from it
there was a real camaraderie there was a
real organization and we never at any
point looked like we were going to
capitulate like we did at anfield a year
ago but it's the performance and and I
just I don't know I I felt rashford
should have ran at Kyle Walker a few
times but didn't have the confidence
because of his pace which is weird
because rashford's fast I think gacho
really struggled on that left hand on
that right hand side as I said Bruno I
mean look he played a game again there's
no one else to play but it wasn't good
and Momin I just I felt he was like
almost like 10 men apart from set pieces
like
rodri he just lost him all the time so
look it's it's hard at the moment it
really is hard and it's not going to get
any easier is it I mean Rasmus is meant
to be back at the weekend against
Everton and we need him back but we're
really we're really
we're really struggling aren't we like
we're really struggling and and with
Liverpool in the cup and you know in the
league and we've got to play Arsenal in
the league as well these games are going
to be really tough when we come up
against well organized teams at the top
of the league um but I do still hark
back to the fact that we were well
organized at the back and we were
compact and we didn't really concede
many good chances apart from the Harland
goal and then obviously the the the
foden goal the second one I think an AR
should save it the first one is a
brilliant goal but Lindelof is naive and
the third goal is a mistake by amrabat
so I thought we defended well I think as
an attacking unit we give away the ball
too much we don't take care of the ball
and I'm tired of saying it I'm tired of
saying it it was the same against Fulham
it was the same against forest and it
was the same today the same players not
looking after the ball when we look
after the ball like we did in the first
20 minutes we were creating chances and
then just completely stops I don't know
why um Ben says D was our best player uh
rajer says the game changed when Evans
came off and the defense lost the shape
Mayu came off not MCC Casper led to
Midfield being overrun says Raja let's
be real there was no scenario where we
beat City key players missing in action
this is the best we could hope for a lot
of mistakes but alas next time says
press amrabat was City's best player I
mean I just I Jalal you I was fuming I
was absolutely fuming um it's it's just
look you want players to do well but we
spend a lot of time but we spend a lot
of time and we passionately invest in
our team just kick the [ย __ย ] ball out
like in a game like it's it's
unforgivable that just absolutely pissed
me off um Eric tenh har came in to the
game with a plan but the players let him
down says Alec rashford cannot stay down
got to come back hit there says Daniel
um add that to the list of charges
against them 116 says Dar in my opinion
doing the basics right today beat
Hollywood flicks and passes says Reagan
yeah I just I just don't think our
attack performed very well it's not a
penalty got the ball grasping at straw
Ste Ste Steven uh edging during watch
alongs is not good for the blood
pressure Mark says Gary bow okay um uh
got what we deserved mate poor tact yeah
you don't know football Beck with all
due respect poor tactics what what what
what are you going to do then play a
high line and try and pass the way
through them if you talking about
tactics today you haven't got you
haven't got a Scooby mate like there's
nothing else you can do I'd love to say
that there was but there was nothing
else we could do Bruno needs to be
dropped for Mount when he's back Mount
doesn't go for stupid passes or shots
says um Minnie if that was a robbery
then I'm going to the bank says Raja uh
says NP welcome to members Club Raza I
don't understand how it wasn't at least
the corner then they go up and score
corruption says David uh can't wait for
um yeah I'm not reading that either
sorry these these chats are really
slowing down what you have to say is no
one can blame the manager if anyone
shows this with those players to almost
win against the team and do this well
what more could he have done says Levi
can you accept all three goals were
valid instead of making excuses for your
team if United had those goals then you
wouldn't complain nope not going to not
going to accept it Curry I'll accept the
loss I'm not going to change my opinion
if Ananda did the same on foden it would
have been given says Kia um come on Mark
you can't honestly honestly say we were
robbed um sorry I'm having a real
problem getting these up um here it's
just ridiculously slow Anthony was used
less like a handbreak says Alex uh what
is the deal with keeping a Dio on the
bench um team didn't drop its head I
can't wait for the day when we go toe to
TOA City again assuming they're not in
the National League says melis well look
let's do the player ratings because I
think that you know takes us into
another area and don't forget we've got
the fan forum I'm sure they're going to
have very different opinions to me um
look I took a few minutes I normally go
live a lot quicker with my match
reaction I actually took a few minutes
on it because I wanted to just calm down
and try and find a bit of clarity um
just to make sure you know maybe if I
had made a mistake I I didn't make a
mistake um I'm not screaming and
shouting like I was in the match I'll
stand by this I'm not no one's going to
change my mind right people can mock me
people can say you're deluded people can
say red tinted glasses I don't mind
we've lost the game so I don't win
anything by staying on this but I'll
tell you
now Delo and Mayu both got free kicks
one at the end one in the first half for
a hand on the shoulder they just stopped
they were like and the referee went yeah
foul rashford gets a hand on the
shoulder he stops and the referee says
play on it it's it's a re it's an
inconsistency and it's a reassessment of
the rules for the last five years I've
seen it you get past the player if they
touch your arm and pull you back a
little bit you stop it's a foul it
should have been a foul I'm convinced it
was a foul I've seen it given in that
game three times once for Man City twice
for us the referee decided to give it I
think it's a foul I think it's a foul
and obviously ten hog thought it was a
foul I think a lot of our fans thought
it was a foul and um they went up the
other end and they scored so it's
contentious at best it's contentious I
heard some people say rashford dived
there's no reason to dive in that
situation he's got the ball he can stop
he can turn he can give it back to Del
he can try and run forward maybe Kyle
Walker catches him there's no need to
dive he's not in the Penalty Box it's a
foul in my opinion the second one which
is the tack on
gacho I
mean I just I just I've watched it so
many times and I I don't know what
people are misunderstanding about my
interpretation he is at full Pelt he is
off the ground he's got his legs wide
open and yes he gets the ball with his
studs but he follows through and
absolutely clatters the player I'm
telling you now if casemiro sprints in
on De bruyne gets the ball and follows
through like that it's a yellow card at
best forget the red card forget forget
that maybe it would be a red card I'm
talking about whether it's Reckless and
whether it's enough for a free kick and
guess what if it's a free kick it's a
penalty the fact that V looked at it and
went fine he got the ball it baffles me
I'm I'm I'm actually baffled so we're
now going back to as long as you get the
ball it's not a foul well hello can we
have um can we have some of our red
cards rescinded then because getting the
ball as we saw with casmiro Curtis Jones
Gusto and many others that's not the
rule the rule is is the tackle out of
control and endangering the opposition
player well watch it back he's at full
stretch his legs are apart he follows
through and clatters the player he gets
the ball first but that's not the rule
so I'm sorry
I know I'm banging my head against the
brick wall and I know some people don't
agree with me but I know what the rule
is and I've I've seen it and I saw it in
real time and I've seen it in replay I
can't under he's absolutely last man out
of control and he follows through and he
takes the player and his legs are apart
and actually he tackles the ball with
his studs up
so I think it's a foul I do I think it's
a foul but at the very least I think we
should have got the [ย __ย ] corner for
it and then they give the goal kick and
they go and score at the other end so
look I I I I don't care what anybody
says I'm not going to change my mind on
that and people can call me bitter and
call me what they like I I've changed my
mind on a lot of things when I've calmed
down I'm absolutely convinced it's a
penalty I'm absolutely convinced it was
a foul on rashford and amrabat makes the
third mistake but you know what what
happened to Old Trafford we're playing a
game we're defending quite well a cross
comes in and we saw a penalty not given
on the pitch where Michael Oliver on V
says you might want to look at this and
we saw a penalty given against holand on
rodri that we've never seen given before
and we've never seen given again so
pardon me if I feel that there's a bit
of an agenda when it's Man City against
man united because it seems to be one
rule for one and one rule for the other
um and the rashford one is worse than
the penalty
because he gives that foul on a Man City
player on Mayu and on Delo but then
doesn't give it to give it to rashford
and they go and score at the other end
so it's it's inconsistent and um yeah
it's just it's disappointing uh look
let's do the player ratings um Andre
Anana I'd probably give him a 6.5 and I
think you're right um I thought he had a
good game I did think he had a good game
he had a big part to playing the goal um
he was very dominant in the air which
helped us but at 1-1 I think he's got to
make the penalty and I think an's game
in a way is very similar to rashford's
that goal by rashford's unbelievable but
then there's other things going on that
you know he didn't do that well on um so
it's like do you want to jump on the
positive or do you want to jump on the
reality the positive is an played well
this the negative is I think he's got to
do better on the goal that foden scores
and if he does you know I don't know
whether it would have been enough anyway
but it was much better than for man i'
give him a 6.5 uh the low for me was a
seven I actually thought he played
really well when he went to left back we
were a lot better at left back at right
back he was on his own a lot he got
double teamed a lot um and I thought he
did really really well um also going
forward he was probably our best
attacking Outlet you know apart from the
first 20 minutes um I think the L's been
much improved recently and he would be a
consideration for man of the match I
also thought Rafael Varan played really
well um I think I probably would give
him my man of the match because
obviously he stayed on for 90 minutes
this was a guy that was apparently going
to miss the game against Forest he's
played two games in a week which
apparently he can't do and I suddenly
find myself with Varan saying well why
are we getting rid of him apparently
can't play two games in a week he's he's
he's comfortably comfortably our best
center back and today he you know he
basically pocketed Harland I mean I know
harand should have scored at the end of
the first half and I know harand scored
but that's on amrat I thought Varan
didn't deserve to be on the losing team
today I thought he played really really
well um and you know what did I say at
the start of the game if you want to win
this game everybody's got to put a seven
out of 10 in well Delow did Anana nearly
did veran did Johnny Evans did I thought
Johnny Evans played brilliantly uh in
that game I know he came off too soon
but I don't know whether that's injury
or whatever but um I thought Johnny
Evans played well I'd give him a seven
Lindelof look I'd give him a six for
effort but it was a weakness and it's
not even his fault really it's a
weakness he's got to do better on on the
first goal you can't just show Phil
foden in and let him have a shot you
can't do that and um especially as a
right-footed player you know if it was
on the left hand side I sort of
understand it but as a right-footed
player you're on your strong side you've
got to do more to block Matt shot and
it's a bloody good goal by foden and he
shouldn't be having the shot because we
should have a foul but Victor Lindelof
still got to do a bit better there and
and they exploited it I mean I think
foden had a lot of success down that
side didn't he um casmiro probably a 6.5
for me a 5.8 what I mean it's almost
like people are blaming bad decisions
and you know our our incompetent attack
on a defensive unit that worked its ass
off for for 90 minutes I thought casmiro
easily a 6.5 made some good tackles I
think he got tired in the second half
there's no doubt about that um but no I
think casmiro is very very important uh
and would have been a consideration for
man of the match uh also Kobe May i'
give him a 6.5 I mean this is ridiculous
I think it's just because we've lost I
thought Kobe Mayu for his age uh
intelligent um made some good
interceptions again was good on the ball
um yeah helped his compact I thought
Kobe Mayo had a good game momy really
five for me um look I I would have
picked him because the set pieces we
don't have a lot of height in the team
but I mean really was just redundant at
so much no good on the ball um lost
rodri multiple times um I didn't really
understand his role in the team and I
don't think I don't think it was
tactical I just don't think he he can
play it I I just I just thought he was
an absolute passenger apart from set
pieces um poor performance and the same
with Bruno look I I thought it was a bad
performance I really did uh I thought he
was good in the first 15 minutes and
then just fell apart um the sad thing is
what what what you going to do we've got
nobody else nobody else and yeah
I mean this is the captain of the team
one of the best number 10 in the country
and our game fell apart in the attack
like there was so many opportunities in
the second half to you know actually get
in behind them and we missing the pass I
saw rashford two or three times ready to
go missing the pass um it's again it's
if there's one thing that about Bruno
that's consistent at the moment it's his
below par performances um yeah gacho
again a five just really struggled today
really did struggle today I don't think
he played well against forest in the
midweek um he's had a couple of really
below par performances um I sort of felt
for him a little bit because there was
nothing to attack so you've got to
defend I don't think that's his game but
yeah it wasn't a good performance from
him rashford had give him a 6.5 for the
goal but I'd be honest and say again
after the 20 first 20 minutes much the
same as Bruno he his game just fell off
um and it's interesting isn't it you
know scored that goal and I was like you
know what he's done that interview he's
scored that goal what a way to answer
but there was that I even said it on the
watchalong there's a long way to go in
this game there's a long way to go in
this game and it's about a 99 it's about
a 90-minute performance and we didn't
get it we didn't get it and um you know
my message to rashford would be well
look I don't think you're ever going to
lose the ability to score a goal you've
got a good shot on you but it's
everything else you know the was a lot
of things that again were just missing
from your game and the question is
confusing why why is it that you know
those things are still missing um and
you know people he said he said it in
the interview himself I'm not going to
have people questioning my commitment
but people are questioning the
performance and and again it was a
confusing one because I think he should
have been one-on-one and if it's 2-0
it's maybe it's a different game I think
he should be one-on-one and he knows he
should
um the chance on the back post I think
he should have done a little bit better
although it was harder but yeah I'd say
6.5 camer I thought did okay coming on
in a difficult circumstance um Anthony
I'd given it four I thought it was
absolutely [ย __ย ] to come on in a game
like that and put in a performance like
that you know it was terrible it was
really really terrible uh amrabat three
just just I thought he did quite well
against Forest but I did say in that
game if I'm an Everton or or or a or a
Crystal Palace I may have a look at him
but I mean that's just that's just you
know what if you're Rafael Varan and
you're Anor and you're Delow and you see
that you feel like ringing his neck
you're like [ย __ย ] hell you know we've
worked our ass off
2-1 it's still a loss but you know at
least as a defense we can go you know
we've been a bit unlucky with the
refereeing decisions but 3-1 that's on
mate and it's just not good enough uh
foron I didn't even know he came on to
be honest um I really didn't uh ten hog
today look he's going to get a low score
I'm GNA give him a five um and actually
I I agree you know I think that I think
that's the fair score I think I give him
a five because honestly I think he got
his tactics right I don't think there's
anything else he could do I don't think
there's anything he can do around
selection I think playing Bruno as the
false nine was a good idea to get more
bodies in the Midfield I thought that
was right I thought he got his defense
right Lindelof was a weakness but what
else are you going to do the bench Subs
were right what else are you going to do
you've got you've got to make those subs
so I think he's his hands are tied
behind his back of course so I can't be
too critical on him but the reason I
wouldn't give it an average and I'd give
it a five is
because you still have to look at it as
a coach and you know I've been a coach
you don't have to be a coach you can
watch the game I'm still looking it and
I'm going as a coach I've still got to
take responsibility for the fact that
the the front four have completely and
utterly [ย __ย ] that game up with their
inability to create chances in the
second half like we we we didn't get in
their box to create a chance in the
second half in in open play and we
should be doing that um and the reason
i' drop from a six to a five for 10 hog
is that it's not even about today man
city are better than us but this is why
we lost the Fulham the front four give
the ball away too much and it happened
against Forest on Wednesday night
tonight the front four give the ball
away too much and we did it again today
they are they are so careless with the
ball and it really really hurts us so I
would Mark ten hog down a point for that
um look I just want the Everton game I
think that I know Gary Neville said you
know it's games like this where ten
Hog's going to be judged I completely
disagree I don't think you lose your job
because you lose to Man City with that
team um I think you get judged on your
home games and you get judged on the
games that we've got against brenford
away Everton at home they're the games
go and win them games I think he's safe
go and lose those games I think he's in
trouble I don't think that um I don't I
look I think ten Hog's job's in danger
I'm I'm fully aware of that but I don't
think today is a a day where you start
going look if you ten hog out you ten
hog out if you ten hog in you 10 hog in
I don't think today changes that because
it's it was never going to be that type
of game man city were all always going
to win everybody predicted that it was
going to be about you know how we set up
how the players performed and I'll go
back to what I said before you're never
going to win a game like that if you're
carrying passengers everybody has to
play at least seven out of 10 and
unfortunately when we go back through
those player
ratings four or five players didn't so
you're never going to get a result
you're never going to get a result
amrabat was given a hard ball to control
in the middle of four players with no
option to pass and it got nicked off him
should have kicked it out
Hamza I'm sorry that's the difference
between a top player and a and a crap
player he should have kicked it out
can't take player advice from ten har
anymore uh rashford is a luxury player
time to move on says Terrence thank you
very much Anana couldn't save the second
one due to Lindelof slide tackling in an
awkward time also give Varan whatever he
wants he's a Rolls-Royce well he was
your man of the match so smash a like on
the video for Varan um there's a lot of
people talking about a lot of stuff in
the chat I've had my say I'm not
changing my opinion on the referee in
decisions I I I'm convinced I'm right I
don't care if him in the minority I'm
absolutely happy with it um make sure
you subscribe to the channel fan forum
has started and I'm sure you'll get your
variety of opinion on there that will be
different from mine I'm sure and it
might match up with some of yours and
that's fine it's all about opinion you
don't have to agree with mine I don't
care if you do or you don't I just come
on here and I'll give you my honest
opinion on it um thanks everybody for
watching and um let's get over to thean
for him I'll speak to all in a bit take
care stay safe and um yeah I'm gooded
I'm sure you're gooded as well but um
it's just the way things roll isn't it
tws in a
bit
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