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Summary

TLDR休斯顿纪事报近日背离了其他主流媒体对拜登不应再次竞选的普遍观点,强烈支持拜登连任,称赞他的团队在过去三年中的出色表现和对改善美国人生活的政府力量的信仰。文章列举了拜登政府的成就,包括经济恢复、就业增加、降低通胀、油价下降、太阳能投资以及通过双党支持的基础设施投资和就业法案。同时,文中也提及了反对特朗普返回白宫的重要性。此外,脚本还涉及共和党总统提名的竞选活动,特别是围绕特朗普的法律问题和尼基·黑利的立场。威斯康星州的民主党胜利和新选区图的批准也被提及,预示着政治力量结构的重大变化。

Takeaways

  • 📰 休斯顿纪事报支持乔·拜登连任,认为他是历史上最年长、经验最丰富的总统之一。
  • 🏆 白宫在过去三年的表现令人瞩目,尽管国内存在分歧和敌意。
  • 🚀 拜登政府致力于改善美国人的生活,并通过政府的力量实现这一目标。
  • 🛑 拜登政府被赞扬在经济管理方面的智慧,特别是在控制可能失控的通货膨胀方面。
  • 📈 经济从大流行中恢复,失业率接近50年来的最低点,通货膨胀呈下降趋势。
  • 🌞 政府投资700亿美元于雄心勃勃的太阳能项目,并推广其他替代能源产品。
  • 🏗️ 拜登政府第一年通过了两党基础设施投资和就业法案,预计将在未来10年每年增加150万个工作岗位。
  • 🗣️ 拜登政府还成功推动了两党更安全的社区法案,并通过国会。
  • 🤔 尽管拜登年龄较大,但他仍然专注于关键问题,并且在管理团队方面表现出色。
  • 🌐 特朗普面临的法律挑战正在影响他的总统竞选活动,2023年他在法律费用上花费了5120万美元。
  • 🔄 威斯康星州的选举地图重新划分,几乎实现了民主党和共和党倾向区域的均等分割。

Q & A

  • 《休斯顿纪事报》为何支持乔·拜登总统的连任?

    -《休斯顿纪事报》支持乔·拜登总统的连任,因为他们认为在拜登的领导下,美国取得了显著的成就,尤其是在经济恢复、基础设施投资、以及推广可替代能源产品等方面。同时,他们认为拜登的连任可以避免唐纳德·特朗普回归白宫所带来的混乱、腐败和危险。

  • 拜登政府在经济方面取得了哪些成就?

    -拜登政府在经济方面取得了多项成就,包括从疫情中恢复经济,实现了比其他国家更健康的经济状况,失业率接近50年来的最低点,通货膨胀趋势向下。此外,美国在拜登政府的领导下生产了比历史上任何国家都多的石油,包括沙特阿拉伯。

  • 拜登政府的基础设施投资和就业法案预计会带来什么影响?

    -拜登政府的基础设施投资和就业法案预计将在未来10年内每年增加约150万个工作岗位。该法案针对就业困难的县区,旨在促进这些地区的经济发展和就业。

  • 《休斯顿纪事报》提到了哪些拜登政府的其他成就?

    -除了经济和基础设施方面的成就,《休斯顿纪事报》还提到拜登政府在医疗保健方面的成就,例如使《平价医疗法案》下的保险覆盖更加负担得起和易于获得,以及给予医疗保险直接与大型制药公司谈判药品价格的权力,从而降低药品成本。此外,拜登政府还推动了两党支持的《更安全社区法案》通过国会。

  • 特朗普如果回归白宫,可能会带来哪些问题?

    -如果特朗普回归白宫,可能会带来混乱、腐败和对国家的危险。《休斯顿纪事报》认为,特朗普的回归将不利于国家的稳定和发展,因为他过去的政策和行为与拜登政府所倡导的透明、负责任的治理理念相悖。

  • 拜登总统的年龄和健康状况如何影响他的连任前景?

    -拜登总统的年龄和偶尔的记忆失误引起了一些人的担忧,尤其是他的民主党同僚。然而,《休斯顿纪事报》认为,尽管拜登的年龄已经81岁,但他仍然保持着对重要问题的专注和指挥能力,他的经验和领导能力使他成为历史上最多产的总统之一。

  • 共和党总统候选人的竞选策略有哪些特点?

    -共和党总统候选人的竞选策略包括推动对现任和前任总统的绝对刑事豁免权,以及讨论对特朗普的赦免问题。这些策略显示出共和党内部对于如何处理特朗普及其法律问题的不同立场和策略。

  • 特朗普面临的法律挑战对他的总统竞选有何影响?

    -特朗普面临的法律挑战对他的总统竞选产生了重大影响。他需要支付巨额的法律费用,这可能会在他的竞选资金中造成缺口。此外,他在乔治亚州面临的选举犯罪指控以及曼哈顿的商业欺诈审判都可能对他的竞选活动产生负面影响。

  • 特朗普在2023年的法律费用支出是多少?

    -特朗普在2023年的法律费用支出为5120万美元,而他的竞选团队和盟友又额外支出了2350万美元。这些费用主要用于支付他的律师费用。

  • 威斯康星州的选区划分改革对民主的影响是什么?

    -威斯康星州的选区划分改革是一个重大的民主胜利,它结束了该州长达13年的共和党选区划分操纵。新的选区划分使得民主党和共和党倾向的区域几乎平均分配,这为选民提供了更公平的代表性,使得选民的意愿能够更好地反映在立法机构中。

  • 俄亥俄州参议员谢罗德·布朗如何描述他的政治哲学?

    -谢罗德·布朗参议员描述他的政治哲学为倾听选民的声音,并为他们提供实际帮助。他强调了与选民的直接接触,以及在金融委员会的工作中为人们争取到的突破,如养老金保护、退伍军人的医疗支持,以及对抗大型制药公司和华尔街的重要性。

  • 东巴勒斯坦的火车脱轨事件在今晚的辩论中有何体现?

    -在今晚的辩论中,东巴勒斯坦的火车脱轨事件并未被提及。谢罗德·布朗参议员指出,尽管这一事件对当地社区产生了重大影响,但共和党候选人并未在辩论中讨论如何通过政策来防止类似的公共安全事件发生。

Outlines

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🏛️ 休斯顿纪事报支持拜登连任

休斯顿纪事报近日发表社论,支持乔·拜登连任总统。社论指出,尽管国内存在分歧和敌意,拜登政府在过去三年中取得了显著成就,致力于通过政府力量改善美国人的生活。社论还强调,支持拜登连任的另一个重要原因是为了阻止唐纳德·特朗普重返白宫所带来的混乱和危险。文章列举了拜登政府的一些成就,包括经济管理、基础设施投资、就业法案、可再生能源项目、医疗保健法案的改进以及对枪支暴力的应对措施。尽管拜登年龄较大,但文章认为他的经验、智慧和团队管理能力使他成为历史上最多产的总统之一。

05:00

🏌️‍♂️ 共和党总统候选人的竞选策略

在共和党总统候选人的竞选中,领跑者正在推动通过宪法修正案为美国总统和前总统提供绝对免于刑事起诉的豁免权。而他的对手则主张在共和党初选中赦免特朗普。讨论中提到,赦免特朗普并非基于其有罪或无罪,而是为了国家团结,让国家继续前进。此外,还讨论了特朗普面临的法律挑战,包括商业欺诈指控和即将在曼哈顿开始的刑事审判。特朗普的法律费用高昂,已经花费了大量资金,而这些费用预计将在共和党全国代表大会前后耗尽,这对他的竞选活动构成了压力。

10:02

🗳️ 俄亥俄州参议员谈政治和选举

俄亥俄州参议员在讨论中表示,政治是关于倾听选民的声音,而当前的共和党候选人并未真正理解这一点。他强调,政治不仅仅是关于税收减免、弱化监管或支持企业利益,而是关于如何帮助人们获得更好的生活。参议员提到,他通过PACT法案努力拯救了俄亥俄州工人的养老金,并通过儿童税收抵免等措施帮助家庭。他还提到了东巴勒斯坦的火车脱轨事件,批评共和党人对公共安全和健康的忽视。参议员强调,赢得选举的关键在于倾听人民并履行承诺。

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🗺️ 威斯康星州选举地图的变革

威斯康星州民主党主席Ben Wikler讨论了该州选举地图的变化,这标志着政治权力结构和民主本质的深刻转变。他指出,过去13年,威斯康星州被称为民主荒漠,因为即使公众支持率很高,也无法改变共和党在州立法机构中的多数地位。但现在,如果公众希望更换执政者,他们有了这样的机会。这一变化意味着共和党立法者将不再只关注共和党初选,而必须关注选民的真实需求,如扩大医疗补助、工人组织权利和大麻合法化等。Wikler强调,这是通过选民多年来不懈努力和参与各级选举而实现的成果。

Mindmap

经济复苏与低失业率
通胀趋势下降
油价下降与能源生产
经济管理
基础设施投资与就业法案
可再生能源项目投资
拜登政府成就
《平价医疗法案》改进
药品价格谈判
医疗改革
枪支安全立法
特朗普回归的潜在风险
对特朗普的反对
《休斯顿纪事报》背书
年龄与记忆问题
公众对拜登的关注与期望
拜登的年龄与表现
乔·拜登的连任支持
商业欺诈指控
民事诉讼与债务问题
特朗普的法律问题
赦免特朗普的讨论
尼克基·黑利的立场
共和党候选人立场
特朗普的法律开支
竞选资金的筹集与使用
竞选资金与开支
共和党总统提名竞选
政治参与与民众关切
对共和党辩论的批评
民主党参议员的观点
公众安全与政策影响
东巴勒斯坦火车脱轨事件
俄亥俄州的政治形势
民主与共和党选区的平衡
对民主的影响
新选举地图的签署
选民与立法机构的关系
选区划分的历史问题
过去13年的政治格局
威斯康星州的选举地图改革
政治与选举
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Keywords

💡乔·拜登

乔·拜登是美国现任总统,视频中提到了他在任期内的成就和面临的挑战,以及《休斯顿纪事报》对他的背书。

💡《休斯顿纪事报》

《休斯顿纪事报》是一家美国的主要报纸,它在视频中对乔·拜登的连任表示支持,认为他的领导和政策对美国有益。

💡特朗普

唐纳德·特朗普是美国的前总统,视频中提到了他可能对美国带来的混乱、腐败和危险,以及他面临的法律问题。

💡基础设施投资和就业法案

这是拜登政府通过的一项法案,旨在通过投资基础设施来促进就业和经济增长。

💡平价医疗法案

平价医疗法案(Affordable Care Act)是美国的一项重要医疗保健立法,旨在提供负担得起的医疗保险给更多美国人。

💡药品价格谈判

药品价格谈判是指政府与制药公司就药品价格进行的谈判,目的是降低药品成本。

💡更安全的社区法案

更安全的社区法案是拜登政府推动的一项立法,旨在通过改善社区安全来减少大规模枪击事件。

💡法律诉讼费用

法律诉讼费用是指个人或公司在法律诉讼过程中产生的费用,包括律师费、诉讼费等。

💡选举地图

选举地图是指用于选举的区域划分图,它决定了选区的边界,对选举结果有重要影响。

💡政治极化

政治极化是指政治观点和立场在社会中分化成两个对立的极端,导致社会分裂和政治冲突。

💡民主党

民主党是美国的两大主要政党之一,主张进步主义政策,通常支持社会福利和平等权利。

💡共和党

共和党是美国的两大主要政党之一,通常主张保守主义政策,强调小政府和财政保守。

Highlights

《休斯顿纪事报》支持乔·拜登连任,认为他是历史上最年长、经验最丰富的总统之一。

白宫在过去3年的领导下取得了显著成就,尽管美国社会存在分歧。

拜登政府成功地避免了经济衰退和高失业率,实现了经济复苏。

美国失业率接近50年来的最低点,通货膨胀呈下降趋势。

拜登政府投资700亿美元于雄心勃勃的太阳能项目,并推广其他替代能源产品。

拜登政府在上任第一年就通过了两党基础设施投资和就业法案。

拜登基础设施法案旨在帮助就业困难的县区,包括德克萨斯州的巴特尔县。

特朗普如果重返白宫,将给国家带来混乱、腐败和危险。

拜登政府使《平价医疗法案》的覆盖面更加普及和可负担。

拜登政府通过两党更安全的社区法案,应对大规模枪击事件。

拜登的领导和团队管理能力使他成为自约翰逊以来最多产的总统之一。

尽管拜登和特朗普的年龄以及记忆问题引起了一些担忧,但拜登仍然专注于关键问题。

共和党总统候选人提名的领跑者正在竞选,希望通过宪法修正案为美国总统和前总统提供绝对免罪权。

特朗普面临的法律挑战正在影响他的总统竞选,2023年他在法律费用上花费了5120万美元。

特朗普的法律费用可能会在共和党全国代表大会的关键时期耗尽。

特朗普面临的法律挑战包括乔治亚州的选举犯罪指控和曼哈顿的商业欺诈指控。

威斯康星州民主党在州长托尼·埃弗斯签署新的选举地图后取得了重大胜利,这将结束共和党在州议会的多数地位。

新的选举地图几乎平均分配了民主党和共和党倾向的区域,预计将有45或46个区倾向于共和党,8个区可能是摇摆区。

威斯康星州的这一变化是政治权力结构的深刻转变,可能标志着民主的新时代。

在过去的13年里,威斯康星州被称为民主沙漠,因为即使公众支持率很高,也无法改变共和党在州议会的多数地位。

威斯康星州的这一变化意味着选民现在有机会通过选举改变州议会的组成。

在过去的选举中,民主党在州议会选举中获得了54%的选票,但只获得了大约三分之一的席位。

威斯康星州的这一变化是多年来选民不断投票、组织和坚持的结果。

选民现在可以利用他们新赢得的权力,在明年的选举中反对极端主义,并有可能赢得州议会的席位。

Transcripts

00:01

>> Well, while op-ed pages of major newspapers have been

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flooded with opinion essays about why Joe Biden should not

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run for reelection. Today,

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the Houston Chronicle endorsed

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Joe Biden

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under the leadership of the oldest and arguably the most

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experienced president in American history. The team in

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the White House for the past 3 years has performed remarkably

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well. Despite the rancor and divisiveness that have

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afflicted this nation for nearly a decade, the

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accomplishments of an administration dedicated to

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governing one that believes in the power of government to make

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life better for the American people is a key reason we

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heartily endorsed the re-election

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of President Joe Biden.

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The other reason equally important is to fend off the

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chaos, corruption and danger to the nation that would accompany

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the return

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of Donald Trump to the White House.

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The Houston Chronicle editorial offered a sampling of President

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Biden's accomplishments. Quote,

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one of the clear advantages of a president has experienced as

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Biden is wisdom in this case, the wisdom to get the heck out

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of the Fed's way as it masterfully applied the brakes

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to what could have been runaway inflation.

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The economy has recovered from the perils of the pandemic and

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is now healthier than that of any other advanced nation.

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With unemployment approaching a 50 year, low inflation is

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trending downward. Somehow. Despite all of dire prophecies

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of economists without the bitter medicine of a recession

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or a period of high unemployment, gas prices have

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fallen as the U.S. produces more oil than any country in

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history, including Saudi Arabia.

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The administration is investing 7 billion and unambitious solar

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power project and is promoting other alternative energy

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products. The Biden administration in its first

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year managed to pass a bipartisan infrastructure

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investment and Jobs Act. That's expected to add an

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estimated 1.5 million jobs per year for the next

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10 years.

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The Houston Chronicle point to do that. The Biden

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infrastructure bill targets projects in employment,

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distressed counties around the country.

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One of the distressed areas to benefit is will Barter county,

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Texas. It's worth noting that will Barber County in 2020

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cast. 21 1% of its votes for Biden, nearly 78% for Trump.

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It is impossible to imagine Donald Trump doing anything to

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benefit any area of the country that did not vote for him.

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The Houston Chronicle's endorsement of Joe Biden

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also lists these Biden accomplishments.

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The Affordable Care Act during this administration has made

03:09

coverage more affordable and more accessible for millions of

03:13

Americans. The Biden White House also has given Medicare

03:16

the power to directly negotiate with Big Pharma, thereby

03:19

lowering drug prices after decades of thoughts and prayers

03:23

and little else in response to mass killings. The Biden White

03:26

House managed to shepherd a bipartisan safer Communities

03:30

Act through a balky Congress

03:34

and the Houston Chronicle's endorsement of President

03:36

Biden's reelection ends this way.

03:40

We are all well aware of Biden's age, 81 and Trump's 77

03:45

as well as memory lapses that have prompted near panic among

03:49

many of the president's fellow Democrats. Those of us who

03:52

remember the energetic garrulous occasionally, even

03:55

eloquent Joe Biden of years past can see the difference a

03:58

few years have made, even if he was always prone to gaffes

04:03

accounts. Other than the report of special counsel Robert Hur

04:07

suggest, however, the Biden remains focused, engaged in

04:11

command on the vital issues. The occupier president

04:15

experience counts like Ronald Reagan, Lyndon Johnson and

04:19

Franklin Roosevelt. Biden's deft management of his team has

04:23

made him arguably the most productive presidents since LBJ

04:28

in the early months of his administration. He has, as they

04:32

say, for got more, that he's presumed Republican rival.

04:35

We'll ever know.

04:37

That's not saying much. And at the same time,

04:41

it says it all.

04:44

>> Did you see the picture be the horrible picture with the

04:46

stomach out to hear those?

04:48

So what I do is I putting up today a picture of me, actually

04:52

what I actually looked like hitting a ball smashing that's

04:55

breaking ball.

04:57

>> And you see why

05:00

I wouldn't say slim. I would you say to them but not bad.

05:05

>> What the ball does go far.

05:09

I would say it goes about 9 times for their than Biden can

05:14

hit it.

05:15

>> Yeah, he's fine. He's just fine. And he's running for

05:18

president.

05:19

Meanwhile, in the campaign for the Republican presidential

05:22

nomination, the front runner is campaigning on creating

05:27

presumably through a constitutional amendment,

05:30

absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for presidents of

05:34

the United States and former presidents of the United States

05:38

and his opponent in the Republican primary campaign is

05:41

campaigning on pardoning the front runner.

05:45

>> If you're talking about pardoning Trump, it's not a

05:48

matter of innocence or guilt that point because that means

05:50

he would have already been found guilty.

05:53

I believe in the best interests of bringing the country

05:56

together.

05:58

I would pardon Donald Trump because I think it's important

06:01

for the country to move on.

06:03

>> Nikki Haley is saying that she would allow special

06:06

prosecutor Jack Smith's 2 criminal cases against Donald

06:09

Trump to proceed to a verdict and only them which she pardon

06:13

Donald Trump. But there is nothing any president would be

06:16

able to do to relieve Donald Trump of the burdens he might

06:20

face if he's found guilty of election crimes in Georgia and

06:24

there's nothing any president would be able to do to help

06:27

Donald Trump and the first criminal case ever filed

06:31

against him, which will be the first criminal trial. But

06:35

Donald Trump faces now scheduled to begin in Manhattan

06:38

on Monday, March 25th in that trial, Donald Trump is accused

06:43

of business fraud to cover his hush money payments to porn

06:47

star Stormy Daniels so that he could be elected president.

06:52

And there is nothing any president can do, including

06:55

Donald Trump. Were he to become president again

06:59

to help Donald Trump deal with the now more that half a

07:03

billion dollars Donald Trump owes in civil judgments against

07:06

him after losing 4 civil trials in a row and Manhattan. Our

07:12

first guest tonight, Andrew Weissmann wrote if Trump posts

07:16

bond for the huge New York judgments via a 3rd party say

07:20

the likes of a mosque or a foreign country person that

07:25

would be of enormous import to how he would behave as

07:29

President

07:30

Bloomberg News reports on how Donald Trump's legal battles

07:33

are costing his presidential campaign.

07:36

Trump spent 51.2 million dollars in 2023 on legal

07:40

expenses and Ken Tap another 23.5 million. Most of it

07:45

stashed in an allied super political action committee that

07:50

he can use to pay his lawyers. But as his for criminal cases

07:54

ramp up, those funds are expected to run out at a

07:57

critical time around July on the Republican National

08:00

Convention triggers the official start to the general

08:04

election campaign. Trump's legal bills have been a drag on

08:08

what has otherwise been. A strong fundraising operation

08:11

is campaign and allied groups last year collectively spent

08:15

13.6 million dollars more than they raised. Thanks to a large

08:21

nest egg of donations to save America from 2021. 2022.

08:27

Before he was actively campaigning, that fundraising

08:30

buffer

08:32

has nearly been depleted.

08:40

And Senator, you just heard from the Republican candidate

08:43

who's endorsed by Donald Trump and hopes to be on that ticket

08:47

a running against you in November. I'm not sure he knows

08:51

that the president of the United States is Catholic.

08:53

But what what is your response to what you just heard?

08:57

>> I watched the debate. I'm now in coffee shops in some

09:00

study where I do this from a more politically month. My wife

09:04

study and she knows large sum I watched downstairs I watch

09:07

innovative with and that was one part of that. That was a

09:10

little chillier. But I watch 3 rich guys, 3 millionaires who

09:14

have spent already combined more than 25 million dollars

09:18

to, shall we say when the Senate see no mention of the

09:22

cost of prescription drugs, no mention of manufacturing jobs.

09:25

No mention of the dignity of work and no mention of pensions

09:28

are veterans. No mention really of how to secure the border.

09:32

While the House of Representatives adjourned when

09:35

we passed with 70 votes support for Ukraine and Israel, all of

09:40

those things. So it was a sort of app, a debate that they made

09:44

a back and forth. All one such a thing that they did say is

09:47

that they all stand with a national abortion ban, even

09:52

though Ohio voters is all as I said on this show and we have

09:55

done an interview back then, Lawrence, Ohio, voters by 13

09:58

points and they want reproductive rights for Ohio

10:02

and so on. The debate didn't surprise me, but didn't really

10:05

deal with issues in effect, Ohioans every day.

10:08

>> Well, you're going to be facing one of them in November

10:11

of and again with lets us know more from the the already Trump

10:16

endorsed a candidate, Bernie Moreno. Let's listen to

10:19

something else he said.

10:22

>> We sent an outsider to Washington, D.C., in 2016

10:26

fundamentally change this country and put us on a path to

10:29

prosperity. We said a perpetual career politician to

10:33

Washington, D.C., in 2021. with Joe Biden.

10:38

I'm asking you to do the same thing you did in 2016 both for

10:41

the outsider. We have enough career politicians and all they

10:44

want is a job.

10:47

Senator, what's your response to that?

10:49

>> Well, I I don't even know quite how to answer all of only

10:54

what none of these candidates and I I don't see much

10:57

difference among them. But none of these candidates really

11:00

understand that politics is about going around the state

11:04

listening to voters, whether it's that the round tables I've

11:07

done round tables in 41, I think counties on the pact Act,

11:11

I've been east Palestine 8 times and listen to what do you

11:13

want government to do to help you keep that to help keep the

11:17

railroads responsive to accountable for what they do.

11:20

They're not. They came out essentially they came out

11:23

against the minimum wage. They're not listen to workers

11:26

are not listening to communities. And to me, it's

11:29

about that. And then will we do. And I work with Senator

11:31

Tester in the PACT Act. I work to save people's pensions.

11:34

A million 100,000 Ohio Union members had their pension say

11:39

then I could spend a whole hour and the show telling stories

11:42

about people that came up to me, including a grandfather in

11:46

my church. She was a visitor as his grand son was being

11:50

baptized in Egypt. Leave aside after church. And I mean,

11:53

these stories are really what what makes this job so great

11:57

stories about saving pension stories about the child tax

12:00

credit stories about. They're getting support from the VA

12:04

because they were exposed to these football field size burn

12:07

pits in Iraq and Afghanistan. You know, for your time in the

12:09

finance committee warrants and all that all that you did in

12:12

that community, when you heard those stories about people that

12:16

got a break in their lives and help them join the middle

12:18

class, help them stay out of poverty, help them with their

12:21

Medicare, Medicaid. That's what I live for in this. And that's

12:25

the stories you get when you travel the state. If you listen

12:28

first and deliver on one promises or at least do it,

12:32

you say will try and the new lover and there's there's no

12:35

feeling quite like that in public office.

12:38

>> What about the people of east Palestine and people in

12:42

Ohio have every right now to fear what can happen in a train

12:46

derailment?

12:47

What did they hear in tonight's debate about how Republicans

12:52

will protect them from train derailments like that?

12:56

>> Well, they heard nothing. I'm not sure any of them attend

12:58

East Palestine. I don't know that. I think said I've been a

13:01

times. I I do know they kept bragging about deregulation,

13:05

cutting back on rules when, in fact that what happened in east

13:10

Palestine, sort of this Wall Street business model, you,

13:13

you lay people off, you then compromise, then you take stock

13:20

buybacks and bigger dividends. Executives do very well you

13:23

than compromise on public safety or public health in

13:26

something like East Palestine happens. But all they say is

13:30

tax cuts for the rich and more when weaker regulations on

13:34

wanted to support unions are weaker regulations and public

13:37

health. Me look what we did to bring the cost of insulin

13:41

doubt. Look what we did so that seniors keep don't have to pay

13:44

out of pocket so many thousands of dollars. And that's what

13:48

this job is about. It's not just kind of up here that we

13:52

don't want women to have abortions and we don't want

13:54

this and we don't want that. And we want to serve our

13:57

corporate friends and you had me on this show before and

14:00

you've always said, how do you win a state like, wow, you win

14:03

Ohio by stand up to Wall Street, hold him accountable.

14:05

Stand up to the railroad. Stand up to the drug companies,

14:08

send up the oil companies. And that's why, you know,

14:11

that's that's why they're trying to beat me. And that's

14:13

why I know I depend on literally hundreds of thousands

14:16

of people around the country to to come to Sherrod Brown dot

14:19

com and help me because they're going to outspend me. They

14:22

always do. But I got a whole lot more people in my side and

14:26

that's that's what wins elections like this.

14:36

>> As Rachel reported to you in the last hour, there was

14:39

another big win for democracy. Today in Wisconsin, Democratic

14:43

Governor Tony Evers signed into law new electoral maps that did

14:48

Republican gerrymandered maps. The New York Times reports the

14:51

new maps outline an almost even split between Democratic and

14:55

Republican leaning districts. 45 or Democratic leaning?

14:58

46 are Republican leaning and 8 are likely to be a toss up

15:03

according to an analysis from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

15:06

Joining us now is Ben Wikler, chairman of the Democratic

15:09

Party in Wisconsin. And the person this program turns to

15:12

whenever we hear the word Wisconsin been as as Rachel

15:16

described in the last hour, it only took 13 years and the what

15:21

does it mean for the changes in the the the party shape of the

15:26

legislature?

15:28

>> This is a sea change moment. It is a it's a profound,

15:32

a tectonic shift in the basic structure of political power

15:36

and whether Wisconsin is a democracy. Scholars have called

15:39

this continent democracy desert for the last 13 years, because

15:43

there was no possible way that even a huge majority of the

15:46

public, but every end of the Republican majority in the

15:49

state legislature. And that just ended today with the

15:53

stroke of Governor years. As Dan from now on. If the

15:56

public wants to throw out the people in power, they can and

16:00

they can put someone else in charge. And that means a new

16:02

day for democracy is finally dawning in the Badger State.

16:05

>> As Rachel showed the last hour, there was an election

16:07

where 54% of the vote for state legislature went to Democrats

16:13

and they ended up with about one-third of the seats.

16:18

>> That's exactly right. It's it's shocking, shocking

16:20

man. And beyond that, it means that in Wisconsin, the

16:24

Republicans in the legislature have only worried about

16:26

Republican primaries from there, right? So they just

16:29

leapfrogged further and further away from what most people

16:32

want, what people want to expand Medicaid. They won't be

16:35

productive freedom. They want workers to be able to organize.

16:38

They want to legalize marijuana. Republicans don't

16:40

want to hear any of that. And they never had to pay

16:42

attention to the actual people of the state. Now suddenly all

16:46

over Wisconsin, their districts that have been totally rigged

16:49

before where people are about to run for office and have a

16:52

real chance, not just winning but winning in helping build a

16:55

majority. They can write bills the the I slowed and that's

17:00

that's drawn and the governors executive office, what is the

17:03

will of the people so be the law of the land that is now

17:06

possible? It wasn't before, but now it is because people

17:10

organize year after year to make this happen.

17:12

>> Then we know their voters out there who a vote for

17:15

president on. It's not even easy to get them to do it,

17:19

but they eventually do it because they're convinced that

17:21

the end that it's kind of serious and then they think

17:24

their job is done. I think it's all over. This took 13 years.

17:29

This is the kind of less of things that happen frequently

17:32

in politics and government to take more than just one vote

17:36

and won election.

17:38

>> This involved and frankly, millions of people ultimately

17:41

voting over and over not just in state legislative races and

17:45

the governor's races, but in state Supreme Court races.

17:49

Huge landslide victories in 2018, 2020. 23 in moments when

17:53

it seems like all is lost, people knocking on doors in the

17:56

middle of the winter in Wisconsin not giving up.

17:59

They built this moment. And now we begin an election cycle

18:03

where they can actually use the power that voters have now won

18:07

this next year in dozens of places across Wisconsin,

18:11

voters will be able to say no more extremism and actually win

18:16

seats when the legislature being involved with Dems DOT

18:19

Org. This is the moment