🚨 Obama aide drops BAD NEWS on Marjorie Taylor Greene

I'm joined down by the host of pod save

America and pod save the world Tommy VOR

Tommy thanks for taking the time thanks

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so Tommy let's dive in here do it the

foreign aid bill has finally passed both

Chambers it was signed into law by Biden

that's the $95 billion that's going to

uh Ukraine Israel and Taiwan on the

house side this had passed despite major

opposition from Maru till green and

these other far-right magga Republicans

what does this do in Mar T green

standing like does this pierce the

bubble that she had outsized strength in

that conference I think so I mean I

think she looks completely feckless you

know I I have to like I have to say

credit to speaker Johnson he did

something that he thought was right

knowing that there could be real

political risk for him and he thought no

he looked at the intelligence and he

decided that uh if Putin was able to win

the war in Ukraine that he might keep

going into Western Europe uh and then

that might mean that a NATO country was

at risk which would draw directly into

the war he said no let's give them

assistance now uh it's it's been too

long and so I think marjerie Taylor

green looks like an idiot and it seems

like Trump sided with speaker Johnson

over her yeah which is not what anyone

expected yeah completely like tanks her

uh tanks her I guess artificial standing

that she had just just one quick thing

on the Mike Johns thing I know look I

know that we should take the win where

we can and it's not worth and I know you

know what I'm going to say already which

is like you know it it's hard to applaud

him for doing the bare minimum like this

guy knew based on these intelligence

briefings what would happen if PU had

had cart blanch to like continue beating

up on Ukraine and the fact that it took

him this long reflects really poorly

onto him so yes it is good look I I I

should just I should just take the win

but um it's worth it's worth like noting

that he could have done this sooner that

the writing was on the wall in terms of

the danger of allowing Putin to continue

uh this barrage against Ukraine and yet

it took him this long to get here yeah

listen continuing to support Ukraine was

unequivocally the right thing to do on

the merits uh he was worried about the

politics for 6 months which you know was

very costly for the Ukrainian military

they took a lot of casualties in that

time he got to the right place I

appreciate that he put politics aside

and also you know you get the New York

Post uh mocking marjerie Taylor green on

their front page so it's a win-win here

for for Humanity all right so let's talk

about the impacts that this bill will

actually have because on Wednesday Biden

signed the bill he immediately announced

that 1 billion dollars would be going

right to Ukraine I believe he said the

same day within hours of him signing it

in Practical terms what what does this

mean for the war in Ukraine I mean what

it means is the United States will be

able to rush them things that are

absolutely critical to defending cities

in defending positions currently being

held by the Ukrainian military so uh

early in the war the ukrainians were

able to shoot down something like 80% of

missiles bombs Rockets fired at them

from the Russian side that percentage

has dropped to like under 50% which

means people are getting killed it means

that the Russians are taking out

civilian energy infrastructure it's just

been really deadly time for Ukrainian

civilians who are seeing more heavy

bombardment now than they have seen

since the very beginning of the war so

this is literally going to save lives

and also what it means is you have

Ukrainian troops desperately trying to

hold positions in eastern Ukraine

despite getting out fired at 10 to1

which means the Russians were shooting

10 shells for every shell the ukra

ukrainians could return fire with so now

they'll finally be able to address that

shell hunger uh and actually start

fighting back basically and is this

going to be enough like are we going to

need to be back here in x amount of

months I mean this was you know the

whole bill was for $95 billion a good

portion of that is actually going to to

the US military to to you know

bolstering what what we needed um so is

this going to be enough like is this our

was this our last shot basically to fund

the war effort in Ukraine it's the last

shot until the 2024 election and then

after that we'll know is this a trump Le

government is a republican Le government

that's going to cut off Ukraine uh or is

Joe Biden going to be in charge and

we're going to keep supporting them

you're absolutely right that this

package of arms is probably not enough

for them to win the war or end the war

it's enough for them to continue to

defend themselves uh and I can

understand why you know that's worrisome

for people because it's a lot of money

uh there's a lot of people dying um

hopefully associated with this arms

package comes some sort of peace talks

that might get us to a settlement uh in

a ceasefire it was widely accepted

before that Putin would like win this

war without any aid from the US what

does this mean for Putin now I mean it

it means that he went from being uh in

the best possible position it means he

went from you know having a strategy

where he was just playing for time he

was waiting for the West to get tired uh

to get sick of sending money and and

assistance over to Ukraine uh and

basically just trying to wait us all out

um now it means he's going to face stiff

resistance for at least the next year so

you know look Putin Putin a dictator uh

every indication is that Russian public

opinion is fully behind this war but he

is still losing tens and tens of

thousands of troops uh hundreds of

thousands if you count people that are

being wounded so at some point public

opinion or the politics of this could

catch up to him and start causing

problems so he wants to win this thing

fast uh and this trunch of Aid is going

to make that a lot harder okay so let's

let's pivot over to What's Happening

Here in the US Donald Trump had just won

the Pennsylvania primary this past week

but not before losing almost 160,000

votes to Nikki Haley Who Tommy I should

remind you dropped out like 6 weeks ago

she did uh what is this signal for Trump

moving forward like the fact that he in

in a primary that he's already won in a

primary where he's effectively running

unopposed that he's still losing I think

it was almost as high as 177% of his

votes to somebody who is literally not

running in this election yeah I mean I

look it's not a great sign for Donald

Trump I mean he would like to be winning

100% of those votes there is if you look

at the 2020 results there were

significant numbers of crossover

Republicans who voted for Joe Biden in

2020 so what we might be seeing is some

of those same people once again voting

against Donald Trump in a primary we

also might just be seeing kind of

protest votes like you know in the

Democratic side in Michigan you had a

bunch of people voting uncommitted to

protest the war in Gaza when a lot of

them might ultimately vote for Biden a

general election so we don't know

exactly what it means but you know he

would much rather have not lost those

votes like it could be a sign of

weakness well I know Dan does polar

coaster on positive America's YouTube

channel um but there is a Chasm right

now where it looks like there's a Chasm

between the tight polling that we're

seeing on a national level like all

these polls are like 44 to 45 Trump's

leading by a point Biden's leading by a

point Trump's leading by two points um

so there's a Chasm between these polls

and also the reality of what these

primary elections show which is you know

that that Trump is losing like huge

swaths of his own base so what's your

take on the polling heading toward

November on on the Republican side I

mean I think look this is hard for for

people like us for your viewers to kind

of fathom but like compared to most

people in this country we are space

aliens because total we think about we

obsess about politics all day every day

most people think about it for like a

couple minutes a month right so most

people aren't paying attention they

maybe are just figuring out sounds so

healthy it sounds so nice they're just

figuring out that there's going to be a

rematch between Joe Biden and Donald

Trump so I think the the the key point

is that the electorate in a primary is

just radically different than a general

election you have much more casual

voters uh turning out in a general

election I think the electorate's like

50% bigger basically so um my take is

that I think the election is a tossup

it's basically 50-50 uh this week there

was a set of swing state polls out from

Bloomberg they did not look great for

Joe Biden I think he was down in six of

seven states um but we got a lot of time

Joe Biden's got a lot ofy money Donald

Trump's stuck in a courtroom so you know

this is why you run a campaign and win

them back to that point then there's

going to be a lot of low low information

voters and and I mean that in the sense

that like those people who aren't paying

attention right now who will find out in

October that uh you know when they tune

in that Donald Trump may very well be a

convicted felon how much of an impact do

you think that that's going to have on

these regular people I mean these you

know soft Republican voters these

Suburban moms The Independents out there

yeah I mean we know from polling that

opinions vary on the multiple Court the

multiple indictments that Trump is

facing right some people think that

certain cases are more serious than

others but we also know that a

conviction for a felony is a big deal

for a majority of Voters in this country

and so if Trump is a convicted felon

when people go into the voting booths in

November that will undoubtedly be a

factor in influencing the the outcome

yeah I mean he's going to he's going to

stand there and try to like qualify it

by saying well no this is only a felony

for for you know defrauding like this

and that and and that's going to if he's

sitting there trying to explain to

people why actually this isn't so bad

because this is just a felony for for

this as opposed to a felony for this I

feel like that's like him on his back

back feet like that is not going to be

the position that he wants to be in yeah

he's got basically two plays right now

the first is just pray to God that he

can find one juror who is a trump super

fan who will not vote to convict under

any circumstances and just have a hung

jury right and play for time that way

the other plan is just to

do what we see him do every day which is

Spin and spin and spin call this a Biden

prosecution say the system is rigged the

system is unfair you know this is all

about uh punishing Biden's political

enemies and try to frame the debate to

make it so that any outcome is seen as

illegitimate now Donald Trump is look I

don't like the guy but he's an

incredibly powerful Messenger right he's

a propagandist he picks a message and he

repeats it over and over and over again

and that's all it takes to be effective

right it doesn't have to be smart or

Savvy or accurate it just needs

repetition so we'll see if he is able to

uh precook the outcome of this trial in

in public opinion but I don't know I

mean the facts are um going to be pretty

damning yeah I mean either way even if

he can draw most of those people back in

there's still going to be a certain

subset of people who are going to defect

away from him just by virtue of the fact

that now you have to pull the lever for

a convicted felon or for Joe Biden and

that's you know not like even if he even

he loses some percent I mean you know

Biden won uh Georgia by 12,000 votes he

won Wisconsin by 20,000 votes these are

small margins so so small like the

margins are so tight and also it's just

going to be a question of issue saliens

at the end right if by if on Election

Day everyone is talking about

immigration and crime and areas where

Donald Trump is strong he's probably

going to win if on Election Day everyone

is talking about abortion access if

we're talking about this Draconian law

in Arizona that was passed in the 1860s

that criminalizes like all abortions

right like that is the ground that Joe

Biden wants to be on and that's where I

think we can turn out the voters we need

to win and to that point he's actually

undermining his own party because all

he's talking about all he's capable of

talking about is his own prosecution and

so you know it would actually be better

for him to take this time even when he's

doing his little like mid-trial press

conferences or post-trial press

conferences to try to Pivot to those

issues but he can he's physically

incapable of not talking about himself

and his own victimhood and and so

because he's such an egomaniacal

narcissist this is what it's going to

look like at the end of the day yeah if

Donald Trump could just stop ranting and

raving about himself stop complaining

about the 2020 election and saying it

was rigged he would be in such a better

place politically but he cannot help

himself he has made the entire party uh

you know contort itself around this

election lie and you know to to get a

trump endorsement you have to support it

to to you know be the head of the RNC

you have to come out full-throated in

support of the election Li so like he is

shaping the party he's bending the party

to his will uh and I think it could

damage the entire Republican brand and

actually we have information that would

kind of bear that out if you look at the

2022 midterms Republicans actually

overperformed you looked at you look at

regular Republicans who ran in New York

for example they were able to flip a

handful of seats uh it was the

Republicans who ran in the mold of

Donald Trump who got creamed at The

Ballot Box like Doug mastriano Carrie

Lake Hershel Walker Dr Oz Don balic all

these people who ran like as these as

these America First Trump acolytes they

were the ones who lost I mean they lost

even in races where they should have won

they lost in in Statewide races where

their normal quote unquote normal

Republican counterparts did succeed and

so it was just it was basically like a

perfect test case where it showed how

little salience these these uh specific

Trump you know America First candidates

had yeah man I mean look Trump is a

unique political figure in our history

he is one of one he was on The

Apprentice for years and years he is

famous he has a brand that's

internationally known he's one of the

most famous people in the world he has

been able to defy political gravity in

ways that no other candidate has before

him that is just not going to happen for

like the random guy running for the

Pennsylvania house district right like

if you are just a kooky election denier

if you have a if you believe that all

abortions should be outlawed regardless

of rape or incest like voters do not

support those kinds of candidates they

actually end up usually going for the

more candidates but Trump is not letting

those candidates get out of the

primaries right right and now and what

we're left with now is like Carrie Lake

running for US Senate in Arizona and and

people in you know kind of in that exact

same mold strapp it on her Glock that's

right uh okay Tommy Tik Tock being

banned uh if bite dance doesn't divest

was part of that $95 billion Aid package

that went to Ukraine Taiwan and and uh

and Israel did like can you can you talk

about what the implications of that are

going to be and and also you know I know

there's a lot of um there's a lot of

heat right now on the government for

moving forward to do that but didn't

China ban Facebook and Instagram and

also Twitter yeah I mean you can't use

basically any um us social media apps in

China they're all banned uh I think

Facebook has been blocked since 2009

Twitter around the same time Instagram

was blocked in 2014 right so you know if

we're looking if you're judging this on

sort of equity and fairness and and how

these two countries treat each other

like we're kind of getting to even here

yeah um I think what's going to happen

next is there will be a legal challenge

by Tik Tok uh yeah so we'll see how that

plays out um but the two options

ultimately will be if this if this bill

comes to fruition is some sort of

divestment so you'll have like kind of a

uson subsidiary of Tik Tok or bike dance

just says to hell with America like

we're we're pulling out and it's just no

longer available in the App Store man

the thing that scares me is one of the

groups that had come forward was this

group put together by Steve n who is

Trump's former treasury secretary who is

interested in in buying this thing so we

have Elon who's bought Twitter and

basically just kind of Tanked it and

elevated all of these literal neo-nazis

uh on that site uh obviously Facebook

has a long history of being terrible for

democracy and now we have Tik Tock who

like I don't know under the guise of

trying to trying to protect America from

some subversive entity we may we may see

it fall into the hands of an even worse

even more subversive entity in a group

by Steve minucha

yeah it's not great when uh your choic

is for who controls the Tik Tok

algorithm or Chinese Communist party

stukin with like what probably some

Saudi money listen I also just want to

say I mean I feel really bad for people

who spend a lot of time on Tik Tok who

love it who built a business on Tik Tok

who built a big following and now I feel

like the rugs getting pulled out from

under them that absolutely sucks as

someone who spent years and years and

years on Twitter and then watched Elon

Musk take it over and completely ruin

the place like I feel your pain it

absolutely sucks so I really really hope

that uh Tik Tok gets offloaded to some

sort of us subsidiary that isn't Steve

manukan or insert your other uh Trump

dude here uh what about the impact you

think that this is going to have on on

young people like do you worry that

because the buck stops with Biden

Biden's the president right now that

young people are going to view him as

the guy who banned their favorite app

yeah I think they will I mean listen

Trump tried to ban Tik Tok yeah on the

way out the door he put out this

executive order that essentially was an

attempt to force a sale um he is now

trying to say you know I think he

tweeted something like young people

please note that Joe Biden is the one

who ban Tik Tok right so he's doing his

usually uh per usual very subtle

politics from Donald Trump I do look I

do think people will blame Joe Biden for

uh Banning Tik Tok because he's the guy

who banned Tik Tok but it won't go into

effect until after the election uh there

is this off-ramp with the the sale to a

domestic subsidiary and look look we

just don't know I mean for every young

person that's really mad about a Tik Tok

ban there might be some parents out

there who are pretty psyched about it so

we'll find out uh Tommy where can we see

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fun thanks for having me