BROKE vs PRO Gaming Challenge!

Austin Evans
26 May 202425:31

Summary

TLDRIn a thrilling episode of BROKE versus PRO, two contestants engage in a PC building challenge. One builds a computer using only 10-year-old components, while the other opts for brand new parts. Both are restricted to components available at Micro Center, with the 'BROKE' contestant benefiting from older, cheaper parts, and the 'PRO' contestant aiming for high performance with a modern setup. After creative solutions and tense moments, the 'BROKE' contestant's system, despite being a fire hazard, narrowly wins in terms of price-to-performance ratio, sparking a debate on the value of new versus old tech.

Takeaways

  • 😀 The video is a 'BROKE versus PRO' competition where two individuals build computers using different constraints.
  • 🛠️ One participant builds a computer using exclusively 10-year-old components, while the other uses brand new ones.
  • 💻 Both participants select their components from the Overclock Media inventory, with a focus on parts available at Micro Center.
  • 💰 The main challenge for the 'BROKE' participant is to find components that are 10 years or older and still for sale, potentially leading to a more cost-effective build.
  • 🚀 The 'PRO' participant has the advantage of using the latest technology but faces the challenge of higher costs due to new components.
  • 🤔 The 'BROKE' builder contemplates between maximizing value with older parts or opting for a high-performance, older GPU.
  • 🎲 The 'PRO' builder chooses a Ryzen 5 5600X CPU and an RTX 3050 GPU, aiming for a balance of performance and cost.
  • 🛡️ The 'BROKE' builder faces difficulties in finding suitable older components and has to be cautious about compatibility and value.
  • 🔍 The 'PRO' builder is confident in the performance of modern parts and believes there will be a significant difference compared to older technology.
  • 🏗️ Both builders face challenges in assembling their systems, with the 'BROKE' builder having to modify a case to fit the components.
  • 🎮 The performance of the systems is tested in a game, with the 'BROKE' builder achieving 125 FPS and the 'PRO' builder experiencing very good performance.

Q & A

  • What is the main challenge of the video 'BROKE versus PRO'?

    -The main challenge is to build a computer using exclusively 10-year-old components for one participant, while the other builds using brand new components.

  • What is the main criteria given to the participants for picking components?

    -The main criteria given to the participants is that they need to pick components that are still for sale at Micro Center, encapsulating parts from the past couple of years for one participant, and components that are 10 years or older for the other.

  • Which components does the participant building with new parts choose for the CPU and GPU?

    -The participant building with new parts chooses a Ryzen 5 5600X for the CPU and an RTX 3050 for the GPU.

  • What strategy does the participant with 10-year-old components consider for the competition?

    -The participant with 10-year-old components considers either min-maxing value and parts or getting a high-performance GPU to boost performance to an absurd amount, where value might not matter as much.

  • What are the two choices the participant with 10-year-old components has narrowed down to for the GPU?

    -The participant has narrowed down the choices to an RTX 780 or an R9 Nano for the GPU.

  • What is the final decision for the GPU and why?

    -The final decision is to go with the GTX 780 because it is believed to be old enough to meet the 10-year-old criteria, whereas there is a risk that the R9 Nano might be too new.

  • What issues does the participant with new components face with the case?

    -The participant with new components faces the issue of finding an old case, as most 10-year-old cases have been sent to e-waste and are not kept due to their size.

  • What creative modification does the participant with 10-year-old components have to make?

    -The participant with 10-year-old components has to make a creative modification by using a Dremel to modify the case to fit the motherboard and other components.

  • What is the final score calculation method used to determine the winner of 'BROKE versus PRO'?

    -The final score is calculated by adding the CPU points per dollar and GPU points per dollar, with additional demerits applied for not meeting certain criteria, such as using components not sold at Micro Center or components not being 10 years or older.

  • What are the Cinebench scores for both participants and how do they compare?

    -The participant with 10-year-old components has a Cinebench score of 5,308, resulting in a CPU score of 27 after conversion. The participant with new components has a Cinebench score of 10,705, resulting in a CPU score of 34 after conversion, indicating a higher performance.

  • What are the final scores for both participants after considering the demerits?

    -After considering the demerits, the participant with 10-year-old components has a final score of 37, while the participant with new components has a final score of 35.

Outlines

00:00

🖥️ Introduction to the Competition

The video 'Broke versus Pro' pits two competitors against each other to build computers with different constraints. One competitor will use exclusively 10-year-old components, while the other will use brand new ones. Both will draw from the Overclock Media inventory. The challenge involves selecting components still available at Micro Center from the past few years. The competitors outline their strategies and initial component choices, highlighting the differences in cost and performance between old and new parts.

05:01

🔧 Picking the Parts

The competitors detail their parts selection process. The competitor using older components struggles with the limited availability of parts over 10 years old, eventually settling on a GTX 780 GPU and a Core i7-4770K CPU. Meanwhile, the competitor using new parts chooses a Ryzen 5 5600X CPU and an RTX 3050 GPU. Both express confidence in their selections, with the older components benefitting from lower costs and the new ones from higher performance.

10:02

🏗️ Building the Systems

The build process presents unique challenges for both competitors. The older components require finding a compatible case and dealing with physical constraints, while the newer components are straightforward to assemble but more expensive. Creative solutions and modifications are necessary, particularly for the older components, which involve using a Dremel to fit parts and manage cooling. Both systems are eventually assembled, though the older system is more janky and less reliable.

15:03

📊 Testing and Pricing

The systems are tested for performance and priced out. The older system, built with components like the i7-3930K and GTX 780, costs significantly less but faces issues with availability and performance. The newer system, with a Ryzen 5 5600X and RTX 3050, is more expensive but performs better. The competitors' systems are evaluated on CPU and GPU performance, with the newer system showing superior scores but at a higher cost.

20:03

🏆 Determining the Winner

The final scores are calculated, including price-to-performance ratios and demerits for rule infractions. The older system initially seems to have a competitive edge due to lower costs, but demerits for build quality and initial component issues reduce its score. The newer system, despite its higher cost and slight rule infractions, ultimately wins due to better overall performance and fewer demerits. The winner is determined by combining the scores and demerits.

25:03

😂 Final Reactions and Wrap-up

The competitors reflect on the outcome, with the winner celebrating a narrow victory and the loser expressing frustration. Despite the competitiveness, they share a moment of camaraderie, acknowledging the challenges and creativity involved in the builds. The video concludes with a call to action for viewers to subscribe and engage with the channel, followed by humorous banter and light-hearted commentary on the competition's fairness.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡PC Building

PC Building refers to the process of assembling a personal computer from individual components such as the central processing unit (CPU), graphics processing unit (GPU), motherboard, memory, storage devices, and the case. In the video, the theme revolves around building two different PCs, one with 10-year-old components and another with brand new ones, to compare their performance and cost-effectiveness.

💡Components

Components in the context of the video are the various parts that make up a computer system. Each component has a specific function, such as the CPU for processing instructions and the GPU for rendering graphics. The script discusses selecting components from a 10-year-old inventory versus choosing the latest parts, highlighting the challenge of building PCs with different generational specifications.

💡Overclock Media

Overclock Media is likely a fictional company or brand mentioned in the script, which seems to be the source of the PC components used in the video. The term suggests a focus on high-performance computing, where components are often overclocked to exceed their factory specifications. The script implies that Overclock Media has an inventory of parts from which the participants can choose for their builds.

💡Micro Center

Micro Center is a real-life retail chain specializing in computers and electronics. It is mentioned in the script as the place where the components for the new PC build must be currently available for sale. This requirement sets a constraint for the participants, ensuring that the parts they choose are not only new but also accessible to the audience.

💡Depreciation

Depreciation, in the context of the video, refers to the decrease in value of computer components over time. The script discusses how new components do not have depreciation built in, meaning they are more expensive compared to older components that have lost value due to age and technological advancements. This concept is crucial in determining the cost-effectiveness of the PCs built.

💡Ryzen 5 5600X

The Ryzen 5 5600X is a specific model of a CPU produced by AMD. It is mentioned in the script as one of the new components chosen for the modern PC build. The CPU is known for its performance and efficiency, which is why it is selected to compete against the older components in the challenge.

💡RTX 3050

The RTX 3050 is a model of a graphics card from NVIDIA, which is chosen for the new PC build in the video. It represents an entry-level to mid-range GPU that is expected to deliver solid performance for gaming and other graphics-intensive tasks. The choice of this GPU is strategic to pair with the Ryzen 5 5600X for balanced performance.

💡i7-4770K

The i7-4770K is an older model of an Intel CPU from the Haswell generation, which is mentioned in the script as a potential component for the 10-year-old PC build. This CPU is significant as it represents the older technology that the participants are trying to optimize for performance within the constraints of the challenge.

💡Performance to Price Ratio

Performance to price ratio is a measure used to determine the value of a product based on its cost and its performance capabilities. In the video, this ratio is central to the challenge, as both participants aim to build PCs that offer the best performance relative to their cost. The script discusses the strategy of balancing component performance with their prices to achieve a high performance to price ratio.

💡Cinebench

Cinebench is a benchmarking software that tests the performance of a computer's CPU. It is mentioned in the script as a tool to evaluate the performance of the PCs built during the challenge. The script uses Cinebench scores to compare the CPU performance of the new and old components objectively.

💡Time Spy

Time Spy is a benchmarking tool that tests the performance of a computer's GPU, particularly its capabilities with DirectX 12, which is a graphics API in Windows. In the video, Time Spy scores are used to evaluate and compare the graphics performance of the PCs, providing a measure of how well the GPUs handle modern gaming and graphics tasks.

💡Dell O-Rama

Dell O-Rama is a playful term used in the script to describe the unconventional and improvised PC build using an old Dell case. It highlights the creativity and problem-solving involved in making the older components fit and function in a build that defies traditional PC building standards.

Highlights

In the BROKE versus PRO challenge, Ken and Austin build PCs with contrasting component ages.

Ken opts for brand new components, while Austin is restricted to using parts that are 10 years old or more.

Both pull components from Overclock Media's inventory, with Ken having a wide selection and Austin facing limitations.

Ken's strategy involves choosing between maximizing value or getting a high-performance GPU like the RTX 3050.

Austin reminisces about his prime PC building days and considers components like the GTX 780 and i7-4770K.

Austin believes his older components will be cheaper and more optimized, contrasting Ken's potentially expensive new parts.

Ken faces the challenge of finding a 10-year-old case, which is difficult due to their size and disposal practices.

Austin gets creative with his build, using a Dell case in a non-traditional way.

Both builders face issues with component compatibility and cooling solutions.

Ken's build is completed smoothly, with all components fitting well and the system booting up successfully.

Austin's build requires last-minute modifications and Dremelling to make the components fit.

Despite issues, Austin's 'Dell O-Rama' successfully powers on, with the system showing signs of life.

Ken is confident in his modern setup's performance, expecting it to outperform Austin's by a significant margin.

Austin is happy with his janky build, believing it to have a strong price-to-performance ratio despite its appearance.

The final test involves playing 'CS2' to evaluate the systems' performance and adherence to the challenge constraints.

Ken's system shows high FPS in 'CS2', but Austin's older components still provide a playable experience.

The competition concludes with a detailed analysis of cost, performance, and adherence to the challenge's rules.

Surprisingly, Austin's older components nearly match Ken's new ones in terms of price-to-performance ratio.

Demerits are applied for not following the exact rules, affecting the final scores of both builders.

In a close call, Austin wins the BROKE versus PRO challenge by a narrow margin, sparking discussions on the value of new vs. old components.

Transcripts

00:00

- Today on BROKE versus PRO,

00:01

we're going head to head

00:01

to see which one's better.

00:03

I'll be building a computer

00:04

using exclusively 10-year-old components.

00:05

- And I'm going to be building

00:07

using brand new ones.

00:09

And I got a lot to choose from.

00:11

So for this video,

00:11

both of us are going to be pulling

00:13

from our Overclock Media inventory.

00:16

As you can imagine,

00:17

making PC videos,

00:18

we've amassed a lot of stuff over the years.

00:20

So the main criteria that I've been given

00:22

for this challenge

00:23

is that I need to pick components

00:24

that are still for sale at Micro Center,

00:27

which encapsulates from the past couple of years.

00:30

And there is quite a bit to choose from.

00:32

- So while Ken may have the benefit

00:33

of brand new parts,

00:34

my restrictions are a little bit more difficult

00:36

because I have to pick parts

00:37

that are 10 years or older.

00:39

Now, the good thing is,

00:41

those, you know,

00:42

2013, 2014 days

00:44

were some of my prime PC building days.

00:46

So we gotta see how much I remember

00:48

my fourth gen Intels,

00:51

my-

00:55

GTX

00:58

780s?

01:00

Oh, boy.

01:00

Okay.

01:01

- My strategy for this competition

01:02

can honestly go one of two ways.

01:04

I can either min-max my value here and my parts,

01:09

or I can get like a baller GPU

01:12

or something like that

01:13

and really boost my performance

01:17

to an absurd amount

01:18

and value might not even matter,

01:20

especially going up against

01:21

a 10-year-old slate of components.

01:24

Ryzen 5 5600X,

01:27

here we go.

01:29

And you're getting a decent amount

01:29

of performance, too,

01:30

especially over whatever old stuff

01:33

Austin's gonna be using.

01:34

All right, for GPU,

01:36

we have a bunch of RTX,

01:38

we have a bunch of AMD.

01:39

I don't know what the landscape is right now.

01:41

And most importantly,

01:42

what's on sale

01:43

at Micro Center right now.

01:44

I feel like this card

01:45

will actually pair well with my 5600X.

01:48

The RTX 3050.

01:51

It's very much in that same, like,

01:54

entry-level, mid-range ballpark.

01:56

- Here's the thing.

01:57

I think Ken has severely underestimated

01:59

just how hard the new part of this will be.

02:02

Because he's getting all brand new components,

02:04

there's no-

02:06

Depreciation built in.

02:07

Whereas my system is far more optimized

02:10

because everything is so much older,

02:12

so many of my things no one wants anymore.

02:13

It's gonna be 20 bucks here,

02:14

30 bucks there.

02:15

Ken's gonna have to be spending

02:16

$200 on his motherboard

02:18

and $300 on his GPU.

02:19

Like, even though

02:20

his is going to be more powerful,

02:22

mine's gonna be so much cheaper

02:23

that it won't even matter.

02:24

Oh, actually,

02:25

we don't have as many older chips as I thought.

02:27

Uh.

02:28

Oh, yes.

02:30

An i7-4770K.

02:32

So, this is Haswell.

02:34

So, fourth gen.

02:35

This, I want to say,

02:36

came out in 2013.

02:38

It may have been 2014.

02:40

No, I think it's 2013.

02:42

Because I have the limitations

02:44

of not only having to choose

02:45

10-year-old plus components,

02:47

but also trying to figure out

02:49

what the current values of those are.

02:51

I have to be very careful

02:54

with my component choices.

02:56

So I think I've narrowed it down to two choices.

02:58

An RTX 780 or an R9 Nano.

03:01

It is 100% gonna come down to,

03:04

do I wanna take a gamble?

03:05

I'm pretty sure the 780 came out

03:07

like 2011 or 2012.

03:09

I think this is old enough.

03:10

But I think I could get more performance

03:12

if I go for the R9 Nano.

03:13

The problem is,

03:15

is that I'm really taking a gamble on,

03:16

did that come out in 2014 or 2015?

03:19

I'm starting to second guess myself

03:20

that maybe it did come out in 2015.

03:22

I'm gonna be safe.

03:23

I can't risk a little bit of extra performance

03:26

to completely lose.

03:27

GTX 780, I'm gonna lock it in

03:29

along with my Core i7-4770K.

03:32

I'm really hoping that I'm at

03:34

like 70, 80 bucks for the two of them.

03:38

- I'm super confident.

03:39

I mean, I don't exactly know

03:42

where 10-year-old parts lie

03:45

in the scheme of stuff

03:46

that you can buy today,

03:48

but I imagine that

03:51

either between raw performance

03:52

or optimization on software side with Windows,

03:56

I think there's a lot to be had here

03:58

with modern parts compared to older stuff.

04:02

Case.

04:02

This Cooler Master one

04:03

we definitely used for budget builds in the past.

04:06

I think this is probably all like,

04:09

I don't know, 60 bucks.

04:10

I don't know if that's cheaper these days,

04:12

but back then it was like 60 bucks.

04:14

Okay, so that's all I got for now.

04:16

Fingers crossed that my budgeting works out.

04:19

I'm just kind of shooting in the wind here

04:21

and let's hope that there's a good result.

04:23

But I'm kind of curious to see

04:25

what Austin's willing to pull here.

04:28

- So my problem now

04:29

is gonna be finding an old case.

04:30

This is an area

04:32

where Ken has a huge advantage.

04:33

'Cause, I'll be real,

04:34

most 10-year-old cases

04:36

we have sent to e-waste

04:37

because we don't keep them.

04:38

They're massive and they're huge.

04:41

Could I do this one?

04:43

I mean, the airflow would be trash,

04:45

but this is a Windows Vista system.

04:48

It looks like it's a normal size.

04:50

Honestly, the only reason

04:51

why I can't use this

04:53

is because my motherboard won't fit.

04:56

Or I could get a little creative.

05:00

You know what?

05:01

I've been known to be creative

05:02

from time to time.

05:03

- [Ken] When does that work for you?

05:04

- No one said anything

05:05

about this being a practical system.

05:07

As long as it functions.

05:09

That seems like enough.

05:10

- I'm almost surprised

05:12

he didn't pull one of the oldest tricks

05:14

in the BROKE versus PRO bag,

05:17

which is

05:20

not using a case at all.

05:22

- [Austin] Does anyone have a hammer?

05:23

- [Ken] What?

05:24

- Or a mallet?

05:26

I'm pretty sure I still have this one.

05:27

Because the performance of my system

05:31

will be good, right?

05:32

A 780, an i7-4770K.

05:35

Those will still be pretty solid in 2024.

05:39

The thing that might get me:

05:40

the price.

05:41

That's the big wild card here.

05:42

I'm pretty confident

05:44

that all of my components are 10 years old.

05:45

I'm pretty sure.

05:46

I can't think of anything that isn't.

05:48

But I don't know how much

05:50

any of these things are.

05:51

Like, I assume the 780 is,

05:53

like, freaking worthless on eBay right now.

05:55

But maybe it still has some value

05:57

to some weirdos

05:58

who collect Nvidia graphics cards.

06:00

If that's you.

06:04

So, yes, I'm confident.

06:06

- I think my run of parts

06:08

went pretty much as well

06:10

as it possibly could.

06:12

As I mentioned earlier,

06:13

there was a lot of decision paralysis

06:16

in trying to find stuff for this build,

06:18

but I think price to performance

06:19

is solid with this stuff.

06:21

So, here's hoping

06:23

that Austin's stuff is not crazy cheap

06:27

and my hunches of old parts

06:29

and keeping their value is on point.

06:33

- So, Ken is gonna have a delightful time

06:37

building his happy little new setup.

06:39

I am gonna get the power tools out

06:41

on this thing.

06:43

So you're just tearing apart-

06:44

You realize that's our $500 build, right?

06:46

We just built that thing like two months ago.

06:48

That's the $475 system

06:50

I built at Micro Center.

06:51

- Wait, this was-

06:52

- The whole system was $475.

06:55

It doesn't quite fit, does it?

06:58

Does it fit?

06:59

I actually didn't know

06:59

this was such an old cooler.

07:00

This cooler actually doesn't mount up, so.

07:05

What are you doing with your cooler?

07:06

What kind of cooler are you using?

07:08

- Yeah, it came with this build.

07:09

- [Austin] Yeah,

07:10

my cooler came with it too.

07:12

I left it over in inventory.

07:13

I'll be right back.

07:15

- [Ken] Wait, wait.

07:16

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

07:17

- Where's your cooler?

07:20

Oh, the $475 total?

07:23

- [Ken] No.

07:24

- Go ahead.

07:25

I'm listening.

07:26

- [Ken] No, we're taking all this out

07:27

and I'm returning it to Micro Center.

07:29

It's part of the return policy.

07:31

- We'll have a word with the judge on that one.

07:33

I'm gonna go get a cooler.

07:34

(upbeat music)

07:37

You do your thing.

07:38

I'm actually gonna do

07:39

a little power test on my system

07:40

to make sure all my components work

07:41

before I tear this apart

07:42

because the suspense is killing me.

07:45

It restarted again, didn't it?

07:47

(Austin sighing)

07:52

Not good.

07:53

You know what?

07:54

I know it's bad when Ken

07:55

is trying to help

07:56

'cause he feels bad.

07:57

All right,

07:57

I'm gonna go grab the only other CPU

08:00

that is compatible with this board

08:01

and then I'm gonna try that.

08:03

- [Ken] Can you throw this in the garbage

08:04

while you're out there?

08:05

- [Austin] No.

08:07

So I have had to make

08:08

an unfortunate creative modification already

08:11

because my initial

08:12

CPU-motherboard combination didn't work

08:14

and we don't really have anything else.

08:15

I've had to upgrade to an older setup.

08:20

So this is now an X79 motherboard

08:23

paired with an Intel Core i7-3930K

08:26

and 32 gigs of RAM.

08:27

I am probably having to spend a lot more on this.

08:30

How much more?

08:31

I don't know.

08:32

But it's either that or I lose.

08:34

So now my real task

08:35

is going to be shoving all of this

08:38

into this little guy.

08:41

- [Ken] If you guys are ever wondering

08:43

what pattern to do your thermal paste in,

08:47

my favorite one's actually the W.

08:52

(Alex laughing)

08:53

Like that.

08:55

- All right,

08:56

cue the montage.

08:58

(Austin mimicking upbeat music)

09:07

Okay, so I have cleared out

09:09

a lot of the stuff from inside

09:10

with some careful modifications.

09:13

So, now let's test fit our board

09:14

and see just how far off we are.

09:17

Shall we?

09:18

Oh, wait, that's it.

09:20

Yeah, okay.

09:22

All right.

09:22

With an extreme, extreme angle,

09:23

it does actually fit.

09:24

The board fits.

09:28

The cooler does not fit.

09:32

Um.

09:34

Wow, I'm really in trouble on this one.

09:37

With a lot of Dremelling

09:41

and a lot of tape

09:43

and zero cooling whatsoever,

09:49

I can make this work.

09:51

That's all I've got for a while.

09:52

Ken, do you have any updates?

09:54

- I just have to install my graphics card

09:55

and I'm done.

09:56

- [Austin] Excuse me.

09:58

- I'm done.

09:59

- Okay, so this is gonna take a little bit.

10:02

So, I've made some progress.

10:04

So we were able to drill out

10:07

some of the rivets.

10:09

So the main problem I'm having right now

10:11

is that to fit my power supply,

10:13

oh, a lot of stuff flying out,

10:14

to fit my power supply in here,

10:15

I need to remove this bit of metal.

10:17

Now, drilling out the rivets is fine.

10:19

I cut some of the actual external metal.

10:22

The bigger thing is,

10:22

is that if you look on this side,

10:24

I actually have to cut from here

10:27

all the way to the top

10:28

because that's actually all one piece.

10:30

And to do that,

10:31

I'm using a Dremel.

10:31

Unfortunately, I've run out of bits

10:34

and the one I have left

10:35

I'm afraid is gonna explode.

10:37

So I'm gonna have to go

10:38

and grab some more Dremel accoutrement

10:41

and work on this later.

10:42

I'm stressing slightly.

10:43

If I have mismeasured any of this,

10:47

and by measured,

10:48

I mean eyeball measured,

10:51

I might have to start from scratch.

10:53

(bright music)

11:04

Behold, my friends,

11:07

the Dell O-Rama.

11:10

Now, it's a real tight fit.

11:15

So the power supply is right here.

11:17

My 20+4 pin is in between the fan,

11:19

so you can see how that goes in.

11:21

The Noctua is up here.

11:22

The 780 is down here.

11:23

The SSD is just dangling down there.

11:25

So you probably can see,

11:26

it is taped all up in here.

11:29

Pretty much anywhere that I think

11:31

that the board could make contact,

11:34

it is taped.

11:35

It's not pretty,

11:36

but I'm hoping that that keeps it from shorting.

11:38

So, assuming that I have not done

11:40

something spectacularly dumb

11:42

or it doesn't immediately short out

11:43

the second that I plug it in,

11:45

let's see if the Dell O-Rama

11:48

will actually survive the first test.

11:52

Please work.

11:54

Please work.

11:55

Please work.

11:57

Ah, there's life.

11:59

There's life.

12:00

There's life.

12:01

Fans are spinning.

12:02

LEDs are LED-ing.

12:03

Graphics card is spinning, as well.

12:04

Oh, it hasn't shorted out yet.

12:07

Uh.

12:09

Uh.

12:11

Yo, it works!

12:12

It works!

12:14

Yeah!

12:15

CPU fan error.

12:16

I don't care, boy!

12:19

It lives!

12:21

Get this (beep) outta here!

12:24

It's the Dell O-Rama's time to shine.

12:26

- I actually really like my system a lot.

12:28

It's not particularly high-end,

12:30

especially considering that I'm the pro setup,

12:33

but I think that it's a safe bet

12:34

to ultimately beat Austin.

12:36

We have a lot of really good value here,

12:38

and I think that we'll legitimately get

12:40

like 2, 3, 4 times

12:42

the performance of him.

12:43

At least, if my thoughts

12:45

of how powerful today's hardware is

12:48

compared to old hardware,

12:51

I think we might actually have it.

12:52

- I'm pretty happy

12:53

with how my system has turned out.

12:54

It's a little janky.

12:56

If you look too close,

12:57

some tape or a cooler might fall off.

13:00

I'm pretty sure

13:01

I'm not gonna get any sort of like demerits

13:03

or, you know,

13:03

points taken away from me

13:04

for missing the 10 year gap.

13:06

I'm pretty sure my price to performance

13:08

is also gonna be really strong

13:09

compared to Ken's.

13:10

My biggest question is,

13:12

is that price gonna push me

13:13

just over the edge or not?

13:15

So right now

13:16

we're gonna play a friendly game of "CS2,"

13:19

not for points or anything

13:20

because this is no longer a test

13:22

this time around

13:23

of who's a better gamer.

13:24

Instead, it is entirely about

13:27

who built the best system

13:28

price to performance wise,

13:29

and importantly,

13:31

did we actually stay within the constraints.

13:33

All right, I'm in.

13:33

And look at that.

13:35

I got 125 FPS.

13:37

- [Ken] Hell yeah.

13:38

Oh, that was Austin.

13:39

- [Austin] Yeah, that was me.

13:39

Look, I'm bad.

13:40

That's fine.

13:41

I understand that I'm bad.

13:42

It's okay.

13:43

Okay, so how would you describe

13:44

the performance of your system right now?

13:46

- [Ken] Very good.

13:47

I mean, this is the easiest game

13:48

in the world to run,

13:49

but I'm doing very well right now.

13:51

- Same.

13:53

Oh, headshot!

13:54

That was you, right?

13:56

- That was definitely me.

13:57

(Austin chuckling)

13:58

- So I'm pretty sure I've got this.

14:00

I think Ken spent too much money

14:02

on way too nice of stuff.

14:03

He could have cut his budget in half

14:05

and I think it would've worked.

14:06

- I am super confident

14:07

that I'm gonna win this competition.

14:09

Austin's parts are going to be way more expensive

14:13

than I think he is expecting.

14:15

- When you do price to performance,

14:16

all that matters is how many Cinebenches

14:19

you can get per dollar.

14:20

By spending just a little bit of money,

14:22

it can give me the opportunity

14:23

to have 50% less performance or something.

14:25

I think it's a huge, huge gap

14:27

when you spend an extra $50 here,

14:28

$100 there.

14:29

So, I'm very confident.

14:31

- The price to performance

14:32

is going to crush him.

14:34

- So it is time to see

14:36

who is the winner today

14:37

on BROKE versus PRO.

14:39

So we have a large number of categories

14:42

to decide.

14:42

So we're gonna go over

14:43

how much we each spent

14:44

on our respective systems.

14:46

We're gonna see how many CPU points

14:47

we get per dollar,

14:48

GPU points we get per dollar,

14:50

and then total score

14:51

to determine the BROKE versus PRO champion.

14:54

I'm feeling real good.

14:56

- I am, too.

14:57

- Are you?

14:58

- We both can't win, though, so.

15:00

- [Alex] All right,

15:01

we'll start with pricing.

15:02

For Ken,

15:03

all of these prices for Ken's system

15:05

are pulled from Micro Center.

15:06

- Okay.

15:07

- [Alex] So you had a 5600X.

15:10

It's very frequently on sale for around 140,

15:12

so that's what you got.

15:13

There was the G.Skill Ripjaw V

15:15

which are $43.

15:17

The MSI B550M Pro,

15:19

which is 110,

15:21

the 3050,

15:22

which is 225.

15:25

- Oh, no, bro.

15:26

- What?

15:27

- [Austin] No!

15:29

- Micro Center.

15:31

Micro Center.

15:32

- [Alex] Your power supply,

15:33

your case,

15:34

and your NVMe are all $40 a piece,

15:36

which totals to $638

15:42

for your entire system.

15:44

- [Ken] Actually,

15:45

that was pretty much ballpark

15:46

what I was guessing

15:47

when I first pulled these parts,

15:48

more or less.

15:49

I think I saved some money on case and whatnot

15:50

that made up the cost of the GPU.

15:53

So, not bad.

15:54

What is it again?

15:55

- [Alex] 638.

15:56

- [Austin] I think I spent 200 bucks on mine.

15:59

- I think you are wrong, my friend.

16:02

Judge!

16:04

- [Alex] All right,

16:04

so, onto Austin's pricing.

16:07

- Yeah.

16:08

How bad was it?

16:09

How much money were my components?

16:11

- [Alex] So your CPU,

16:13

which is the i7-3930K was $20 on eBay.

16:18

- Excellent.

16:18

- [Alex] So, that works out.

16:19

- Good start.

16:20

- [Alex] Your RAM,

16:22

which you used four sticks of

16:24

for some reason.

16:25

- It's a quad channel memory setup.

16:27

I need the maximum bandwidth.

16:28

- [Alex] Yeah, that was $70.

16:30

- Whoa!

16:31

(Ken laughing)

16:32

- Dude, it DDR3.

16:33

People, like,

16:34

toss it out their car windows

16:36

like they're littering.

16:37

- [Alex] Your motherboard was $70.

16:39

- No!

16:41

It was not!

16:41

No, it was not!

16:42

What?

16:43

- [Alex] Your power supply,

16:46

which is an EVGA 500B.

16:48

- [Austin] Yep.

16:49

- [Alex] $35.

16:50

- [Austin] Wait!

16:50

That was what it was new 10 years ago!

16:52

What are you talking about?

16:53

What?

16:54

Dude, these eBay prices are rigged, man.

16:56

- [Alex] No.

16:57

Hey, I actually gave you

16:58

the benefit of doubt.

16:59

I gave you the prices on the lower-end.

17:01

I found one power supply for $35.

17:05

All the other ones

17:06

were going for like frigging 50

17:08

for some reason

17:09

for 10-year-old parts.

17:10

- Hey, let the record be known.

17:12

Let the record be known

17:13

that I'm feeling very confident right now.

17:15

- [Austin] Oh, God.

17:18

- [Alex] Your 780 was $50.

17:22

- That's still a lot.

17:23

That's actually too much.

17:24

- [Ken] That's way cheaper

17:25

than I was expecting.

17:27

- Oh, my God.

17:28

- [Alex] Your Samsung SSD was $25.

17:31

- Okay. Sure.

17:33

- [Alex] The case that you got,

17:35

which is like the donor case, whatever,

17:38

we will count that as $36,

17:40

which is what we bought it for at Goodwill.

17:42

Something that you probably didn't realize.

17:44

- That's the most expensive thing

17:45

in his case, isn't it?

17:46

- [Alex] Yes, it is.

17:48

It is a $90 cooler.

17:50

- No!

17:52

How much is that?

17:53

- [Alex] So your total for the system

17:56

comes out to $396.

18:03

That's $396.

18:06

So I ran the Cinebench multi-core threaded,

18:10

and that turned out to be 5,308.

18:16

- That's a lot.

18:18

- [Alex] And after we did

18:18

the price to performance conversion on it,

18:21

you have a CPU score of 27.

18:26

Yeah, there was actually

18:27

some complicated math,

18:28

which we'll probably just show

18:29

on the screen real quick.

18:30

- [Austin] We'll show on screen

18:31

how we actually did the calculations.

18:32

But, okay.

18:33

So, basically, 27 now.

18:34

More is better in this scenario, right?

18:37

I want more CPU points.

18:38

- [Alex] Yes.

18:39

- That's fine.

18:40

Ken, where are you at?

18:41

You surely got like 22, right?

18:43

21 maybe?

18:44

- [Alex] Ken's Cinebench score

18:45

is 10,705.

18:50

- Oh, no, that's bad.

18:51

- [Alex] And then after we ran it

18:53

through the little conversion thing,

18:54

your CPU score is 34.

18:59

- [Austin] Oh,

18:59

that's actually pretty close.

19:01

That's a narrow victory.

19:02

Do you wanna go next?

19:03

- [Alex] No,

19:05

we're gonna start with you.

19:06

- [Ken] Oh, that's a good sign.

19:07

- Okay, go ahead.

19:08

Hit me.

19:10

- [Alex] So the mighty 780

19:12

got a Time Spy score,

19:14

which I was very surprised

19:16

that it could even do Time Spy.

19:17

- I did not realize

19:18

that it actually had DX12.

19:19

Okay, yeah.

19:19

Time Spy,

19:20

so my graphics points per dollar.

19:21

Again, I want the most amount

19:22

of points per dollar I can get.

19:23

- [Alex] Yeah.

19:24

So the Time Spy score was 2,824.

19:28

- That's not good.

19:29

- [Alex] And then after you do

19:30

the little conversion,

19:31

it is a score of 14.

19:33

- [Austin] Okay.

19:34

- [Ken] Oh, boy.

19:35

Okay.

19:36

- [Austin] All right.

19:37

- [Alex] So the Time Spy score

19:39

the 3050 did was 6,472.

19:48

And then after we do a little conversion,

19:50

it is a score of 20.

19:52

- Wait, what?

19:53

Wait.

19:57

Wait, 20?

19:58

- [Ken] Dude.

19:59

I mean, like,

20:00

I know that the margin wasn't that bad,

20:01

but I mean, it's like,

20:03

that's more than that.

20:04

I don't know why you're cheering.

20:06

- I thought that-

20:07

- [Alex] Yeah,

20:08

it turns out his score was more than double.

20:09

- [Austin] Oh, okay.

20:11

I got a little excited.

20:12

So, we just add these two together

20:14

and get the scores?

20:16

- [Alex] Yeah.

20:17

So, you just add them up together.

20:18

- [Austin] Okay.

20:19

I could do the math here.

20:19

- [Alex] You sure?

20:21

- Carry the 1.

20:22

41 points for me?

20:24

- [Alex] That is correct.

20:24

- [Austin] Okay.

20:26

So my score is 41.

20:27

Okay.

20:30

Ken?

20:31

- [Ken] Mine's pretty easy.

20:32

You just four plus zero.

20:35

- Minus 20.

20:35

- Four plus zero is four.

20:39

And then three plus two is five.

20:41

So 54.

20:43

- So are you trying to tell me

20:44

that a 10 year newer component list

20:47

was still very expensive

20:50

and only barely beat me

20:52

price to performance wise?

20:53

So, basically

20:54

I came real close to winning.

20:55

Is that the argument here?

20:57

- [Alex] So what we're trying to say is,

21:00

probably buy new components.

21:02

- No.

21:04

Buy 10-year-old components.

21:05

That's a better idea.

21:05

- [Alex] But I didn't say that's who won.

21:07

- Oh, what?

21:09

- [Alex] Because we have

21:10

some demerits to hand out.

21:12

- [Austin] Oh, is your system not new?

21:14

Is your system not new?

21:15

Is this thing full of old components?

21:17

- [Ken] Is it?

21:18

- [Austin] I don't know!

21:19

Let's find out!

21:20

- I thought these would all be available

21:21

at Micro Center.

21:22

- What's the demerit?

21:23

- [Alex] So, Austin-

21:24

- No, no, no, no, no.

21:25

Start with Ken.

21:26

I'm fine.

21:26

- [Alex] All of your components

21:27

actually are indeed 10 years or older.

21:31

- Yes!

21:32

Okay, so I get no demerits, then.

21:33

I'm fine, right?

21:34

- [Alex] No, you still get demerits.

21:35

- For what?

21:36

For what?

21:37

- [Alex] Because you did

21:38

originally pick out parts

21:39

that didn't work.

21:41

- What?

21:42

I picked a component.

21:43

How was I supposed to know

21:44

it wasn't gonna work?

21:45

- [Alex] The main part of the demerit is

21:47

just look at your PC.

21:48

That thing is going to die in, like,

21:51

that thing is gonna die

21:52

as soon as we turn it on

21:53

and you play any other game.

21:54

- Okay, you know what?

21:56

Point taken.

21:57

Fair.

21:57

- [Alex] All of these, like,

21:58

peripheral whatever things

22:00

equal up to one demit.

22:01

One demerit is 10% off your final score.

22:05

- You can give me that back.

22:06

So, basically,

22:07

because my system is a fire hazard,

22:09

you're giving me a 10% dock to my points?

22:12

- [Alex] Yes.

22:13

Your new total score is 37.

22:15

- [Austin] So 37 is my actual score.

22:18

- Okay.

22:18

Lay it out to me, judge.

22:19

All right.

22:20

What we got?

22:22

- [Alex] Your 3050

22:24

is technically not sold at Micro Center.

22:26

(Austin cheering)

22:28

Your exact one.

22:29

- Micro Center!

22:30

- [Alex] So that is the 8 gig 3050 ZOTAC.

22:35

They sell one other one that is a 3050,

22:38

that is 8 gig.

22:39

It's just not the exact one.

22:40

- We're going by exact ones?

22:42

- [Alex] So I'm letting it go.

22:43

- Okay.

22:44

- [Alex] But I'm letting you off with a warning.

22:47

- Thanks, officer.

22:48

- [Alex] I'm letting you off with a warning.

22:49

Also, you know,

22:51

the general criteria is,

22:52

it should have been a couple of years old.

22:55

Again, some of these parts

22:57

are very borderline.

22:58

Your case was released in 2018.

23:01

- Come on.

23:02

- [Alex] I will admit that the case

23:04

technically does not directly

23:07

attribute to performance,

23:08

except, you know,

23:09

maybe airflow and all that stuff.

23:11

So I'm only giving you

23:11

half a demerit for that.

23:13

- Wait.

23:14

If he gets half a demerit,

23:14

I could've just built a 2012 cardboard box.

23:17

- [Alex] Well,

23:18

we did literally beg you not to do this.

23:21

- Fair, fair, fair.

23:22

My bad, my bad, my bad.

23:23

Okay.

23:24

Half a demerit.

23:25

That's a good start.

23:26

What else we got?

23:26

- [Alex] Your RAM

23:27

was released in 2015.

23:30

(Austin laughing)

23:31

- As per the standard of RAM,

23:34

it's the right RAM.

23:37

I don't know what else to tell you.

23:38

- [Alex] That is correct.

23:39

They do sell it at Micro Center-

23:40

- That's the criteria.

23:42

- [Alex] But I'm still giving you demerit

23:43

because 2015, dude!

23:45

- The speed is what matters.

23:48

- [Alex] And the last demerit

23:50

that you will get,

23:51

it's because your 56X

23:52

is also fairly old.

23:54

It was released in 2020.

23:55

- [Austin] That's more than two years ago, Ken.

23:57

- I mean,

23:59

they still sell them at Micro Center, too.

24:00

- It's one year, two years,

24:01

three years, four years.

24:03

- [Alex] I think it goes

24:04

to the spirit of the video,

24:05

which is new,

24:07

like new, new.

24:08

Not just like

24:08

I can buy these components new.

24:11

It's like,

24:11

oh, this thing is released new,

24:14

it has a lot of longevity.

24:16

Right?

24:16

'Cause we're testing basically,

24:17

like, the longevity

24:19

of that 10-year-old system.

24:21

- Yeah.

24:21

And this computer's gonna last us

24:22

another least five years.

24:24

Like, huh, I don't know.

24:26

- Well, I think the question is,

24:28

there's clearly some demerits here,

24:29

but do you have that many demerits

24:31

to knock you down?

24:33

- [Alex] Yes.

24:34

So it totals to a 35% demerit.

24:37

Ken's new total score is 35.

24:40

- [Austin] I win.

24:42

We did it, little buddy!

24:44

- [Alex] By the skin of your teeth.

24:46

- [Austin] We win!

24:47

- [Alex] By the skin of your teeth.

24:51

- Thank you very much

24:52

for watching

24:53

this episode of BROKE versus PRO.

24:53

Subscribe to the channel,

24:54

Ringling the dingling button.

24:56

Let everyone know in the comments

24:57

that Alex totally robbed Ken

24:58

because I won, baby!

25:00

Sorry, one second.

25:02

It was great.

25:03

I was an honor doing,

25:04

you know, competition with you.

25:05

Look forward to, you know,

25:06

nothing but the best in the future.

25:07

We won, (beep)!

25:09

Let's go!

25:11

Yeah, that was some bullshit.

25:11

You should've won that.

25:13

(everyone laughing)

25:15

Sad music plays.

25:17

(melancholic music)

25:19

(everyone laughing)

25:23

Ken's gonna be grumpy all day.

25:26

- [Ken] You bet I will.

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