Meet the Press NOW — May 27

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27 May 202449:55

Summary

TLDRThe NBC News Now segment covered a range of critical issues. Former President Donald Trump faces his criminal hush money trial, with deliberations beginning and the potential to impact the political landscape. Internationally, the deadly strike in Rafah and the response from Prime Minister Netanyahu, along with the U.S.'s role in global conflicts, were discussed. Severe weather events sweeping the U.S. have caused deaths and raised concerns about climate change's impact on future natural disasters. The program also highlighted the challenges military families face in accessing childcare, a pressing issue exacerbated by staffing shortages and frequent relocations.

Takeaways

  • 📢 Former President Donald Trump is facing a criminal hush money trial in New York, with deliberations set to begin, marking an unprecedented event in American politics.
  • 🎙️ Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu acknowledged a strike that resulted in dozens of deaths, calling it a 'tragic incident', amidst global calls for an immediate ceasefire.
  • 🌩️ Severe thunderstorms have swept across the U.S., killing at least 21 people, with tens of millions bracing for more extreme weather conditions.
  • 👨‍⚖️ Trump's campaign is preparing for all outcomes of the trial, with potential impacts on voter support and the political landscape.
  • 🏛️ The trial's closing arguments are crucial, as they will leave the last impression on the jury, who will decide the legal fate of the former president.
  • 🌐 The U.S. is expecting an unusually active hurricane season in the Atlantic due to La Niña conditions and human-caused climate change.
  • 🌊 The increased intensity and rapid intensification of hurricanes are a concern for regions far from the coast, with flooding causing significant damage and loss of life.
  • 👶 There is a significant childcare challenge faced by military families, with frequent moves and limited options causing financial and emotional strain.
  • 🛑 President Biden paid tribute to fallen U.S. servicemembers during Memorial Day, emphasizing the importance of democracy and unity.
  • 🚨 A bipartisan congressional delegation visited Taiwan amidst Chinese military exercises, showing support for the island and its democracy.

Q & A

  • What significant event is set to begin tomorrow in New York involving former President Donald Trump?

    -The jury begins deliberations in former President Donald Trump's criminal hush money trial.

  • What was the reaction of former President Donald Trump when he was booed at an event?

    -The transcript does not provide specific details on Trump's reaction to being booed, but it mentions that he was met by a course of booing.

  • What is the context behind Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu acknowledging a strike that killed dozens?

    -Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu acknowledged a strike that killed dozens, calling it a 'tragic incident', which involved a global combination and new calls for an immediate ceasefire.

  • How many people were reported dead due to severe thunderstorms sweeping across the U.S.?

    -At least 21 people were reported dead due to severe thunderstorms.

  • What is the significance of the week being described as 'unprecedented' in American politics?

    -The week is described as unprecedented because the jury will deliberate the legal fate of the former president, who is also his presumptive presidential nominee.

  • Why did Trump not submit the appropriate paperwork to be considered at the Libertarian Convention?

    -Trump did not submit the paperwork because he is the presumptive nominee for the Republican Party and cannot become the nominee for the Libertarian Party due to the rules.

  • What is the potential impact of the hush money trial's verdict on voters' perception of Trump?

    -The verdict could influence voters, especially soft Republicans and soft Democrats, who might reconsider their support if Trump is convicted.

  • What was the tragic incident involving a deadly strike on a camp in Rafah?

    -A deadly strike on a camp in Rafah resulted in the death of 45 people, many of them women and children, and left over 200 injured. The area targeted was not part of the IDF declared safe zone.

  • What is the U.S. stance on the recent deadly strike in Rafah involving civilians?

    -The U.S. is working with Israeli officials and partners to investigate what happened. They acknowledge Israel's right to defend itself and go after Hamas but emphasize the need to protect Palestinian civilians.

  • How might the upcoming hurricane season be affected by La Nina conditions and climate change?

    -The hurricane season may be unusually active due to La Nina conditions and human-caused climate change, which can lead to more intense hurricanes that intensify faster.

Outlines

00:00

📢 Former President Trump's Hush Money Trial and Political Impact

The trial of former President Donald Trump regarding hush money payments begins deliberations, with the outcome potentially influencing American politics. Trump was booed at a recent Libertarian Convention, indicating a possible shift in public sentiment. The trial's conclusion, whether guilty or not guilty, is expected to usher in a new phase in the political landscape. The discussion also revolves around Trump's strategy and the Republican party's response to the trial's implications.

05:02

🏛️ Legal Analysis of Trump's Hush Money Trial and Jury Deliberations

Legal analysts discuss the intricacies of Trump's hush money trial, emphasizing the importance of closing arguments and jury instructions. The process in New York State is highlighted, where the defense presents closing arguments first, followed by the prosecution. The significance of the prosecution's burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt and the impact of the last voice heard by the jurors is underscored. The unpredictability of the jury's decision timeline is also noted.

10:03

🗳️ Political Implications of Trump's Trial Verdict and Election Prospects

Experts weigh in on the potential political ramifications of the trial's verdict on Trump's image and his chances in the upcoming election. They discuss how Trump's portrayal of himself as a victim of wrongful prosecution could resonate with his political base, while also considering the impact on persuadable voters. The conversation also explores the possible effects if Trump were to run for president as a convicted felon and how the Biden campaign might respond.

15:06

🌩️ Severe Weather Events and Climate Change Impact on Hurricane Season

The discussion shifts to the recent severe weather events across the U.S., which have resulted in fatalities and widespread damage. Experts warn of an unusually active hurricane season in the Atlantic due to La Niña conditions and human-induced climate change. The increased intensity and rapid intensification of storms are highlighted as major concerns, with advice for individuals to prepare and stay informed about flood zones.

20:07

🌪️ Climate Change and Its Effects on Hurricane Intensity and Inland Impact

The conversation delves deeper into how climate change is affecting hurricane patterns, with a focus on increased intensity and the potential for storms to impact inland areas that are not traditionally considered at risk. The importance of preparation and awareness is stressed, as the effects of flooding can extend far beyond coastal regions, affecting states like New York and Massachusetts.

25:09

🛡️ U.S. Support for Taiwan in the Face of Chinese Military Aggression

The situation in Taiwan is discussed, with U.S. lawmakers visiting Taiwan amidst Chinese military exercises around the island. The visit signifies support for Taiwan and a demonstration of commitment to standing up to China's aggression. The potential implications for U.S.-China relations and the role of Congress in supporting Taiwan's defense are explored.

30:12

🤝 Bipartisan Congressional Support for Taiwan Amidst China Tensions

The bipartisan nature of U.S. support for Taiwan is emphasized, with lawmakers from both parties standing together in solidarity. The visit by U.S. lawmakers to Taiwan is seen as a significant gesture amidst escalating tensions with China. The potential for U.S. military involvement in the event of an invasion is considered, highlighting the complexity of the situation.

35:13

🕊️ President Biden's Memorial Day Tribute to Fallen Servicemembers

President Biden's Memorial Day address is highlighted, where he pays tribute to fallen U.S. servicemembers and reflects on the importance of democracy and unity. The speech underscores the sacrifices made by military personnel and the need for the nation to come together in honoring their service.

40:14

👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Childcare Challenges Facing U.S. Military Families

The unique obstacles military families face in accessing childcare are discussed, with a focus on the difficulties caused by frequent relocations, limited options, and long waitlists. The impact of these challenges on the financial and emotional well-being of military families is highlighted, along with efforts by the Department of Defense to recruit more childcare workers.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Deliberations

Deliberations refer to the process where a jury discusses and evaluates the evidence and testimonies presented during a trial to reach a verdict. In the context of the video, it is mentioned that the jury will begin deliberations in the criminal hush money trial of former President Donald Trump, indicating a pivotal moment in American legal and political history.

💡Unity Tour

A Unity Tour in the political context is a series of events or visits aimed at promoting unity or consolidating support across different groups or regions. The script mentions Trump's 'Unity Tour' where he is making efforts to reach out to voters who may not traditionally support him, showcasing his attempt to broaden his voter base.

💡Presumptive Nominee

A presumptive nominee is a candidate who is widely believed to be the likely winner of a party's nomination for an upcoming election, often based on their lead in delegate counts or endorsements. The video discusses former President Trump as the presumptive nominee for the Republican Party, highlighting his potential impact on the election dynamics.

💡Hush Money Trial

A hush money trial refers to a legal case involving allegations of payments made to silence someone, often related to concealing damaging information. The script refers to the hush money trial involving former President Trump, which is central to the legal and political narrative discussed in the video.

💡Libertarian Party

The Libertarian Party is a political party in the United States that promotes libertarianism, a political philosophy that emphasizes individual liberty, limited government, and free markets. The video mentions Trump's appearance at the Libertarian Convention, indicating his efforts to engage with a wider political spectrum.

💡Severe Thunderstorms

Severe thunderstorms are intense weather events characterized by heavy rain, strong winds, thunder, and lightning. The video script reports on severe thunderstorms sweeping across the U.S., causing fatalities and prompting preparations for more extreme weather, which is a significant public safety concern.

💡Meet the Press

Meet the Press is a long-running American television news program known for its interviews with leading political figures and public officials. In the script, the host Yamiche Alcindor introduces the program, setting the stage for the political discussions that follow.

💡Unprecedented Week

An unprecedented week implies a period of time that is without precedent or previously unencountered, often due to unusual or extraordinary events. The video refers to an 'unprecedented week in American politics' with the jury deliberations on the former president's trial and the political implications it carries.

💡Ceasefire

A ceasefire is an agreement between conflicting parties to stop fighting, often used in the context of military conflicts. The script mentions calls for an immediate ceasefire in a global conflict situation, indicating the international diplomatic efforts to achieve peace.

💡Legal Analyst

A legal analyst is an expert who provides professional opinions and interpretations of legal matters, often to the media. In the video, an NBC News legal analyst provides insights into the potential outcomes and strategies of the hush money trial involving Trump, contributing to the viewers' understanding of the legal proceedings.

💡Climate Change

Climate change refers to long-term shifts in temperature, precipitation, and other atmospheric conditions, primarily due to human activities such as the burning of fossil fuels. The script discusses the impact of climate change on intensifying hurricanes and severe weather events, emphasizing a significant global environmental challenge.

💡La Niña

La Niña is a climate pattern characterized by cooler-than-average sea surface temperatures in the central and eastern Pacific Ocean, often leading to changes in weather patterns globally. The video script mentions La Niña as one of the factors contributing to an unusually active hurricane season in the Atlantic.

Highlights

Former President Donald Trump's criminal hush money trial begins deliberations, marking a historic moment in American politics.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu acknowledges a tragic incident involving a strike that killed dozens, calling for an immediate ceasefire.

Severe thunderstorms sweep across the U.S., killing at least 21 people, with tens of millions bracing for more extreme weather.

NBC News discusses the unprecedented week in American politics with the jury set to deliberate on Trump's legal fate.

Trump speaks at the Libertarian Convention, aiming to unify and reach out to a broader range of voters.

Trump's campaign strategy includes unconventional venues, reflecting his ties to the courtroom and efforts to expand his voter base.

Analysts discuss the potential impact of the trial's verdict on Trump's presidential nomination and public perception.

The importance of closing arguments in shaping the jury's final impression of the case is highlighted.

Discussion on the potential aftermath of the trial, including Trump's messaging and its effect on voters, regardless of the verdict.

Concerns about the impact of a conviction on Trump's ability to run for president as a felon.

Insights into the strategy of the Biden campaign in response to the trial and its potential outcomes.

Analysis of the deadly strike in Rafah and its implications on the ongoing conflict, including international reactions.

Reports on the U.S. supporting Taiwan amidst military tensions with China, emphasizing the importance of democracy and freedom.

The challenges faced by military families, particularly regarding childcare, are discussed in light of Memorial Day.

President Biden's tribute to fallen U.S. servicemembers, emphasizing the importance of democracy and unity.

Transcripts

00:01

>> IT IS NBC NEWS NOW. >>> IF IT IS MONDAY, FORMER

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>>> IF IT IS MONDAY, FORMER

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PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IS BOOED

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. HIS CRIMINAL HUSH MONEY TRIAL

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TOMORROW IN NEW YORK.

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THE JURY BEGINS DELIBERATIONS.

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PLUS, PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN

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NETANYAHU ACKNOWLEDGING THE

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STRIKE THAT KILLED DOZENS,

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CALLING IT A QUOTE, TRAGIC

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INCIDENT.

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GLOBAL COMBINATION, AND NEW

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CALLS FOR AN IMMEDIATE CEASE

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FIRE.

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>>> SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS

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SWEEPING ACROSS THE U.S.,

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KILLING AT LEAST 21 PEOPLE.

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TENS OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS BRACE FOR MORE EXTREME WEATHER

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BRACE FOR MORE EXTREME WEATHER

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TO THE EAST.

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>>> WELCOME TO MEET THE PRESS

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NOW NOW.

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I AM YAMICHE ALCINDOR.

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REMEMBERING PERSONNEL WHO DIED

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SERVING OUR COUNTRY.

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THIS ALSO MARKS THE UNOFFICIAL

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BEGINNING OF SUMMER.

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THIS YEAR, THE BEGINNING OF A

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TRULY UNPRECEDENTED WEEK IN

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AMERICAN POLITICS.

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THIS WEEK, THE JURY WILL

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DELIBERATE THE LEGAL FATE OF

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THE FORMER PRESIDENT, ALSO HIS

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PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL

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NOMINEE.

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TOMORROW, THEY ARE SET TO BEGIN

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IN THE FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP

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CRIMINAL HUSH MONEY TRIAL.

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JUDGE MERCHAN TO -- FOR THE

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PUBLIC.

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A CHANCE TO WITNESS THE HISTORIC

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CASE.

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GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY, THE END

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OF THIS HUSH MONEY TRIAL WILL

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MARK THE START OF A NEW PHASE.

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IT HAS BEEN ANYTHING BUT NORMAL.

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A PUSH AT THE REPUBLICANS, AND

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THE -- HERE IN WASHINGTON.

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HE WAS MET BY A COURSE OF

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BOO

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>> EVERYBODY SHOULD NOMINATE

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TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT OF THE

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UNITED STATES!

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WHOA!

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THAT'S NICE.

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THAT'S NICE!

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ONLY IF YOU WANT TO WIN!

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ONLY IF YOU WANT TO END.

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MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT TO WIN.

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WE MUST WORK TOGETHER.

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COMBINE WITH US.

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YOU HAVE TO COMBINE WITH US.

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WE CANNOT GIVE CRICKET JOE

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BIDEN FOUR MORE YEARS.

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WE CANNOT GIVE CRICKET JOE

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BIDEN FOUR MORE YEARS.

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>> TRUMP AND ROBERT F KENNEDY

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JR. BOTH SPOKE AT THE

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LIBERTARIAN CONVENTION.

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FORMER GEORGIA SENATOR CANDIDATE

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. TRUMP DID NOT SUBMIT THE

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APPROPRIATE PAPERWORK TO BE

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CONSIDERED.

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NBC'S DASHA BURNS COVERING THE

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STORY.

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ALSO THE NBC NEWS LEGAL ANALYST.

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DASHA, WHAT WERE THEY LOOKING

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TO GET OUT OF THIS SPEECH?

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AND WAS TRUMP AND HIS TEAM

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SURPRISED BY THE BOO

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NEGATIVE RECEPTION?

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>> THEY'VE BEEN PITCHING ALL OF

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THESE TALKS AS HIS UNITY TOUR.

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HE SAW HIM GO TO THE SOUTH BRONX

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, PLACES LIKE MINNESOTA, THEY

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ARE PRESENTING THE VISIT AS

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ALONG THOSE LINES, TRYING TO

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REACH OUT TO VOTERS WHO AREN'T

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INTERESTED IN LOOKING SOMEWHERE

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ELSE BESIDE RESIDENT BIDEN.

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I DON'T THINK THEY WERE

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EXPECTING THAT KIND OF REACTION.

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I'VE NEVER SEEN HIM IN SUCH A

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HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT.

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HE TYPICALLY GOES TOWARD MORE

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FRIENDLY CROWDS.

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ENSURING THERE ARE SUPPORTERS

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AND ALLIES THERE.

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HIS TEAM IS DEFENDING THAT AS,

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LOOK, HE IS NOT AFRAID TO PUT

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HIMSELF OUT THERE, REACHING OUT

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TO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT TYPICALLY

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LOOK AT VOTING FOR HIM.

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>> DASHA, HE DID PUT HIMSELF

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OUT THERE.

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HE DIDN'T ACTUALLY PUT HIS NAME

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IN FOR NOMINATION.

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CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE

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DECISION WAS THERE? >> Reporter: HE POSTED TO TRUTH

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SOCIAL ABOUT THE SAME BECAUSE

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SOCIAL ABOUT THE SAME BECAUSE

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HE IS THE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE

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FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THAT

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HE CAN'T ACTUALLY DO THAT.

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THAT HE CAN'T BECOME THE

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NOMINEE FOR THE LIBERTARIAN

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PARTY.

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THE RULES ARE REALLY WONKY

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AROUND THAT.

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IT BRINGS THE QUESTION, WHY DID

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HE SHOW UP IN THE FIRST PLACE?

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HIS CAMPAIGN SAYING HE GOT HIS

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VASE UNLOCKED, SO HE IS NOT

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AFRAID TO MOVE OUT WHATEVER

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KIND OF VOTERS.

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>> AS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

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THAT, TALKING ABOUT HIM

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REACHING OUT TO OTHER VOTERS,

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TWICE LAST WEEK, HE SAW THE

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TRUMP CAMPAIGN IN AN UNORTHODOX

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VENUE.

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OF COURSE, NOW THERE IS THIS

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LIBERTARIAN CONVENTION.

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WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS?

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INSTEAD OF MORE TRADITIONAL

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CAMPAIGNS IN THIS COUNTRY.

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>> FIRST OF ALL, HE IS BEEN

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TIED TO THE COURTROOM.

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THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE

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CAMPAIGN TEAM HAS BEEN

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FRUSTRATED BY.

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THEY ARE TRYING TO DO WHAT THEY

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CAN WITH THE LIMITS THEY HAVE.

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LOOK, HIS BASE IS THERE.

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THEY ARE NOT LEAVING HIM.

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WHILE BIDEN IS TRYING TO SHORE

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UP HIS OWN BASES, REACHING OUT

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TO BLACK AND LATINO VOTERS,

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TRUMP IS ACTUALLY ABLE TO EXPAND

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THE TYPES OF PEOPLE HE IS

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LOOKING TO BRING INTO THE

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REPUBLICAN PARTY.

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SOME OF THE DATA AND POLLING

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POINTS THAT OUT.

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>> THIS IS GOING TO BE THAT

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HISTORIC WEEK WHERE WE WILL

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HAVE CLOSING ARGUMENTS.

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HOW IS THE TERM COMPARING --

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TRUMP CAMPAIGN PREPARING?

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ARE THERE MULTIPLE WAYS FOR

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THIS CAN GO?

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>> NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE

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VERDICT IS.

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WE'VE GOT THE PREVIEW OF HOW

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THE TEAM AND TRUMP HIMSELF.

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WE'VE SEEN THE POST LASHING OUT

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AT THE JUDGE.

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IN HIS VARIOUS LEGAL TROUBLES.

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I THINK YOU CAN EXPECT -- IF

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THE VERDICT DOESN'T GO HIS WAY,

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HE WILL CONTINUE TO HAMMER THIS

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MESSAGE.

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HE WILL SAY THIS IS ELECTION

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INTERFERENCE.

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IF HE IS ACQUITTED, YOU CAN SEE

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HIM GOING OUT THERE AND SAYING,

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HEY, LOOK, THEY THREW

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EVERYTHING BUT THE KITCHEN SINK

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AT ME.

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WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THIS JUST

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OVER THE LAST 24 HOURS.

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HE IS ASKING HIS VOTERS AND HIS

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BASE TO SUPPORT HIM.

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THE QUESTION, WOULD YOU STILL

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SUPPORT ME IF I WERE ARRESTED?

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HE IS TRYING TO SELL THE NOTION

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THAT IF THERE WERE A CONVICTION

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IN THIS CASE, THAT SOME VOTERS

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MIGHT THINK TWICE.

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>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, DASHA,

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FOR YOUR REPORTING.

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>> TALK TO ME ABOUT THE FACT

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THAT YOU'VE BEEN A JUDGE,

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YOU'VE BEEN A PROSECUTOR.

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WALK US THROUGH, AND WHAT

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LAWYERS ON BOTH SIDES ARE

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PREPARING FOR CLOSING ARGUMENTS.

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WHAT WILL THEY TRY TO

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ACCOMPLISH IN THIS FINAL

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STRETCH?

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>> IN THE CLOSING ARGUMENTS AND

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JURY INSTRUCTION, NOT GETTING

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THE ATTENTION I THINK IT REALLY

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MERITS.

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I WILL START WITH THE CLOSING

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ARGUMENTS.

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THEY ARE DIFFERENT FROM OPENING

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STATEMENTS.

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THE LAWYERS ARE SUPPOSED TO

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STICK TRULY TO JUST THE FACTS

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OF WHAT THEY BELIEVE, THE

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EVIDENCE.

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WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN THE

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CASE.

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IN CLOSING ARGUMENT, THEY ARE

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ALLOWED TO ARGUE.

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LITTLE BITS AND PIECES OVER A

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LONG TIME FRAME, BUT IT IS NOW

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THE DUTY TO PUT THAT ALL INTO A

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NARRATIVE.

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THEY HAVE REALLY KEPT AN OPEN

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MIND.

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THEY ARE WAITING TO HEAR THE

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CLOSING ARGUMENTS ON BOTH SIDES.

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AND TO HEAR WHAT MAKES SENSE TO

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THEM.

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NEW YORK IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT

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FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS.

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THEY ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE THE

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PROSECUTION ARGUMENT FIRST.

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THEN THEY HAVE THE REBUTTAL

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ARGUMENT.

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IN NEW YORK STATE, THE DEFENSE

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GOES FIRST, THEN THE

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PROSECUTION GOES.

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THAT IS IT FOR CLOSING

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ARGUMENTS.

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>> YOU CAN REALLY MAP OUT HOW

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THIS IS GOING TO GO.

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THE JURY MIGHT NOT REMEMBER

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EVERYTHING.

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HOW IMPORTANT ARE THE CLOSING

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ARGUMENTS TO LEAVING THE JURY

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WITH THE LAST MESSAGE HERE?

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>> THOUGH I WOULD LOVE TO BE

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THE SIDE THAT GOES LAST, THE

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LAST VOICE THAT THE JURORS

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HERE.

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IN THIS CASE, IT WILL BE THE

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PROSECUTION.

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THEY HAVE THE BURDEN OF PROOF.

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YOU'VE HEARD THIS MANY TIMES

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BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.

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THEY HAVE TO GET 12 JURORS TO

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AGREE UNANIMOUSLY THAT THE

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FORMER PRESIDENT IS GUILTY.

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THE PROSECUTION GETS TO GO

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SECOND.

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WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, THEY NEED

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TO TELL THE JURORS WHICH PIECES

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OF EVIDENCE GO TO SHOW THAT THE

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FORMER PRESIDENT IS GUILTY.

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THEY'VE GOT TO TIE THOSE THINGS

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TOGETHER FOR THE JURORS.

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THE DEFENSE WILL ARGUE THAT

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MICHAEL COHEN HAD -- HE'S

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ADMITTED PERJURY, HE CAN'T TRUST

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ANYTHING.

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>> AND OF COURSE, HOW LONG DO

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YOU THINK JURY DELIBERATIONS

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COULD TAKE?

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AND WHAT COULD IMPACT THAT

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TIMING?

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>> THEY CAN GO N FOR A LONG

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TIME, OR THEY CAN COME BACK

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VERY QUICKLY.

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PEOPLE ARE VERY COMPETENT.

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YOU GOT A COUPLE OF LAWYERS ON

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THE JURY, WHICH IS PRETTY

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UNUSUAL.

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THEY MAY HELP THE JURY GET

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THROUGH ALL OF THEIR QUESTIONS.

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THE LAWYERS ON THE JURY MAY BE

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ABLE TO POINT THEM TO JURY

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INSTRUCTION. HOPEFULLY THEY

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WILL GO INTO THE JURY WITH THEM.

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THE LAWYERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO

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PINPOINT ANSWERS FOR THE JURORS

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THAT PERHAPS THE JURY WITHOUT

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LAWYERS ON IT WOULD BE ABLE TO

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FIND THEMSELVES.

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MY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR

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GREAT ANALYSIS, CARROLL .

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>> THANK YOU.

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>> JOINING ME NOW IS DEMOCRATIC

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-- FOR NBC NEWS.

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HE IS A FELLOW AT THE HOOVER

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VISITATION -- INSTITUTION.

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WE ARE IN UNCHARTED TERRITORY

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HERE.

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THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A

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PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE. OF COURSE,

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THAT BEING DONALD TRUMP ON

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TRIAL, WHAT IS THE AFTERMATH

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LOOKING LIKE?

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WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT HE IS

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GOING TO SAY AND DO, NO MATTER

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WHAT THE VERDICT IS.

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>> I THINK THE KEY HERE IS,

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REGARDLESS OF THE VERDICT, IT

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WILL BE THE SAME MESSAGE WE'VE

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HEARD ALL ALONG.

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ALL OF THIS IS A WRONGFUL

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PROSECUTION.

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THAT HE IS INNOCENT OF THE

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CHARGES REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE

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JURY FINDS.

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THIS IS REALLY PART OF HIS

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EFFORT TO CAST HIMSELF AS

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SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN THE VICTIM

12:06

OF AN ILLEGITIMATE PROSECUTION.

12:07

THAT ARGUMENT CARRIES A LOT

12:11

WITH THIS POLITICAL BASE.

12:13

THE BIG QUESTION WILL BE WHAT

12:15

THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE ON

12:16

THOSE VOTERS WHO ARE

12:18

PERSUADABLE.

12:19

SOFT REPUBLICANS, SOFT

12:21

DEMOCRATS, THE CONCERNS ABOUT

12:23

THE ECONOMY, CONCERNS ABOUT

12:27

IMMIGRATION.

12:28

IT IS VERY HARD BETWEEN NOW AND

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THE END OF THE YEAR.

12:32

A LOT OF THIS LEGAL OUTCOME MAY

12:34

BE BAKED INTO PEOPLE'S PUBLIC

12:35

IMPRESSIONS OF THE FORMER

12:37

PRESIDENT.

12:38

AND REALLY FOR THESE VOTERS

12:41

OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

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HE WILL HAVE TO DO WHAT HE CAN

12:45

TO CONVINCE HIM THAT THE

12:46

PROSECUTION IS REALLY NO BIG

12:46

DEAL.

12:47

WHETHER HE CAN GET THERE OR

12:49

NOT, THAT WILL BE THE BIG

12:49

QUESTION.

12:50

>> HE JUST SAID THIS COULD BE

12:52

ALL -- I WONDER, COULD THERE BE

12:55

AN IMPACT IF HE ENDS UP WRITING

12:57

THIS ELECTION?

12:58

RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AS A

12:59

CONVICTED FELON?

13:01

>> YAMICHE, IF YOU LOOK AT IT

13:06

FROM A POLLING PERCENTAGE, 20%

13:08

OF FOLKS WHO ARE LEANING TOWARD

13:10

HIM.

13:11

IF HE WERE A CONVICTED FELON,

13:13

THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH.

13:14

THAT WOULD BE A REDLINE THAT

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HAVE CAUSED, WHAT CAUSED THEM

13:19

TO RECONSIDER, IF NOT OUTRIGHT

13:23

WITHDRAW THEIR SUPPORT.

13:24

WE WOULD NOT KNOW THE ANSWER

13:26

UNTIL IF AND WHEN HE IS

13:28

CONVICTED, AND THEN THE PUBLIC

13:29

POLLS STARTING TO COME IN

13:34

WITHIN DAYS A WEEKS.

13:36

THE ONLY CONVICTION THEY REALLY

13:38

ARE LOOKING FOR IS THEIR

13:39

CONVICTION ON NOVEMBER 5th.

13:41

WHEN AND IF THE VOTERS REJECT

13:43

DONALD TRUMP'S RUN FOR THE

13:45

PRESIDENT.

13:46

IT COULD VERY WELL BE THAT THIS TRIAL RESULTS IN SOME SORT OF

13:50

TRIAL RESULTS IN SOME SORT OF

13:53

TRUMP MAKING THE CASE.

13:57

IT HAS BEEN THE UNHINGED POST

14:02

OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

14:05

WILL WE SEE THAT REFLECTED IN

14:08

THE POLLS?

14:10

AND IF NOT, WHAT DOES THE TRUMP

14:11

CAMPAIGN DO IN RESPONSE IF THEY

14:14

DO NOT GET CONVICTED?

14:15

DO THEY SAY, SEE?

14:17

IT WAS ALL ABOUT GOING AFTER IT.

14:20

>> I WANT TO STICK WITH YOU.

14:23

MY NBC COLLEAGUES, THEY WILL

14:26

GET MORE AGGRESSIVE ON TRUMP

14:29

ONCE THE TRIAL IS DONE.

14:32

WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT WILL

14:33

LOOK LIKE?

14:33

DO YOU THINK THAT IS A

14:35

BRILLIANT IDEA TO LEAN INTO

14:36

THIS?

14:37

>> I WASN'T SO SURE IT WAS A

14:39

GOOD IDEA TO LEAN INTO THIS

14:39

PARTICULARLY.

14:40

WHETHER OR NOT HE IS CONVICTED,

14:41

HE'S DONE IT.

14:44

ENOUGH TO DISQUALIFY HIM AS

14:46

PRESIDENT IN THE

14:47

POSTPRESIDENTIAL PERIOD.

14:49

EVEN IN THIS CAMPAIGN TODAY, IT

14:51

IS THE DAY ABOUT SUCKERS AND

14:54

LOSERS, TALKING ABOUT HUMAN