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that doesn't cut it what do you mean

live from New York it's a show that I

can't believe it has a cast on like a

child what what do you want for me

saying what do you want for me I'm going

to sign it after so am I Greg Jennings

wouldn't let us sign his you guys can

his you guys can definitely sign mine

his was cool why what it was the exact

this it's cool his he he was more in

capacitated I'm out here fighting buddy

okay it's first things first uh today we

start with the newest Man of Steel Nick

Wright who's going to have an iron plate

okay Justin Fields now in Pittsburgh but

it doesn't look like there's going to be

a quarterback

competition I guess so sure which

frankly seems strange Russ tweeting that

the quarterback room uh is about to be

fire that's good uh so we'll start with

you Nick should Russ be the week one

starter if it were up to me no but I'm

certain he will be and I think

quarterback comp competitions are

slightly overstated by the media because

of the lack of time because if you have

two new guys and you're going to need to

get at least one of them up to speed

they are going to need so much more time

in your off season with the ones you

know what I mean with the starters

getting the Reps so I think a

quarterback competition with an

incumbent and someone brought in to

compete with him is different than this

situation where both guys are totally

new and and if you give both guys you

know 45% of the first team reps with the

other third quarterback getting 10% of

them neither's going to be ready so I do

think it will be Russell Wilson week one

but as confident as I am that it's

Russell week one I believe it' be Justin

week 18 and the weeks leading up to it I

do not think Russell Wilson will keep

this job but I think he will start with

this job on a very short leash and

because I am much more pessimistic about

Russ's ability in any offense much less

the Steelers offense right now with

their lack of overall skill position

talent I I don't think he'll keep the

job but I think it will be his week one

well one I think they do have skill

position Talent you know you got Fri M

at tight end you got pickings I know

they got rid of Deontay Johnson but you

got pickings you got two good running

backs so I think they got pretty good

talent I I agree with you Russ will will

well what I say is he should enter

training camp as the number one on the

depths chart now if he gets beat out and

like you said it's hard to have a real

cuz they also don't go as hard as they

used to with tackling and things like

that so but if he were to he would have

to like really just completely outshine

Russ passing because we know running

he's goingon to be a better Runner but

if he were to come out with accuracy

which he's had trouble with accuracy I'm

talking about Fields but he would have

to look so much better in the air than

Russ And Russ would have to look

essentially washed for me to move him

ahead of of of Justin I mean I didn't

think Russ looked wash last year and so

I think if he's number one on the depth

chart if it's even or close maybe

Justin's a little better you start with

Russ because also Nick I think it's

easier to move from Russ to Justin than

Justin to Russ if Russ were to not start

and if it was a close competition he

doesn't start in the regular season I

think he's upset his mood could ruin the

he would say the right thing but it

could work against the locker room

whereas if he starts off I'm I agree

short leas plays three or four games and

looks bad through the first four games

then he's benched the Locker Room's not

like oh bro we got this guy who's w a

Super Bowl he's a veteran they they saw

oh he wasn't good so I think that would

be a smoother transition so I I look

we'll see what Russ does but I do think

he'll start and if he can hold it he can

hold it if not go to Justin so I go

ahead W no no you go the I just I do we

agree that Justin field should be at the

place in his career where he's still

improving yeah that the theoretically

should be all right do we agree that

Russ is in the pace place in his career

where he's clearly declining well I

think he he improved from two years ago

to last year sure and I think he could

now he's not going to get back to what

he was in Seattle at his best but he

could improve on last year so so and you

and I obviously feel differently about

where he was last year and how well or

poorly he played point I'm making is

this can we just show what these two

players have been post Justin's rookie

season so since Russ left Seattle and

you know since Justin wasn't a rookie

Russ yes has more wins and a slightly

higher completion percentage they have

both been sacked the same amount of

times their yards per game is the same

their touchdown to turnover ratio is

essentially the same and and Justin is

nearly a full decade younger yeah so for

those reasons I I think it is and I I

don't know where you stand on this one

Brew I think it is far more likely

because they're both going to be on

expiring contracts I know there was some

question like oh the Steelers will have

to make a decision on Justin Field's

fifth year option there is no chance

they're picking up that option because

they have to make that decision before

the year starts brw yeah they have to

make that decision this off season

they're not going to pick up a 20 plus

million do guaranteed thing for Justin

Fields there's no chance I'm not I'm not

saying definitely they will but I could

see them doing it because they're

looking at him as their guy of the

future and what's the what's the other

route like they're going to be at the

worst they're going to be mediocre right

so you're not going to get like a high

draft pick so the I guess the point I

was making I think it is I think it is

close to a 0% chance they pick up his

fifth year option but despite that I

think there is far greater likelihood

that Justin Fields is on the Pittsburgh

Steelers in 2025 than there is Russell

Wilson is on the Steelers in 2025 you

would hope so if you're a Steelers fan

and so right and so I I just think I

think Justin will ultimately be the

starting quarterback and will finish the

season as the starting quarterback and

how he plays in that stretch is what is

going to determine if they bring him

back next season you know what I mean to

be their long-term starter I think they

hope clearly that he plays well and he's

their starter for the next sever from

what they're saying they hope he does

not play they're making Russ is the

starter Russ star you could start R now

look if Russ has a great year they make

the playoffs make a nice run sure but if

Russ I think they want to see what

Justin's made of out in practice as well

because it's good for him to sit at the

feet of in a great organization a great

head coach and a Super Bowl champion

like this could be good for him to learn

I mean Jordan love I know he started uh

Justin and he would be going to the

bench but still it was good for Jord

Love and we saw great improvement from

him from early in his career to coming

in finally as a starter so why couldn't

you see that with Fields okay uh

Steelers offense since Big Ben retired I

tried to find like the inflection point

I'm like this is where they're at almost

bottom of the league in absolutely

everything they've had several different

plans here which including you sign

trabis you drafted picket you start

trabis you start picket okay uh pick it

get gets hurt you bring back trabis you

bring in Rudolph Rudolph's now gone he

loses the playoff game oh Russ is here

Russ calls Kenny picket on Friday we ran

the clip of Russ saying yeah talk to

Kenny picket we were like yep let's get

it let's be great later on that day when

the show would like Kenny pickets gone

and Justin Fields is in it just feels

like a lot of tumult in Pittsburgh and

as you talk about Justin Fields excuse

me if you talk about Jordan love the

fact that I feel like it's a little bit

of a packer story that they went from

Aaron Rogers to Jordan love seamlessly

well right after doing the same thing

far to Rogers but that's that's and this

is just so messy and we still don't know

what's going to happen when you don't

have a good quarterback and it's also

what life is like after your longtime

franchise quarterback steps away this is

why I felt like belich was getting

unfairly malign the last few years what

has the Patriots playing been post Brady

it would look a lot like that simam

get rid of this guy what has the Saints

plan looked like post Drew Brees a lot

of the same thing even a worse

quarterback than those guys obviously

what does the Falcons plan look like

post Matt Ryan a lot of weirdness you

you are if you are a good enough

organization to not bottom out when your

franchise quarterback goes away you're

kind of screwed that's a good you know

what I mean like you do what the Packers

did you draft some may up may upset your

starter correct and also be fortunate

that with the Rogers case that he's

available in the 20s with the Jordan

love case and with Jordan I love how

Jordan played at the end of last year

and in the playoff game as well I he is

still something of an unknown quantity

you know what I mean as far as because

he's got do it another year right how

people felt about him the first the

Colts were amazing with pton Manning

then he misses one year they're so bad

they get Andrew Luck if that team was

good enough to have gone eight and8 the

year pton was hurt they could you know

what I mean they could have entered this

same treadmill of Medi where you can't

replace the guy weird wouldn't you say

though that I mean they went from having

no legitimate starting quarterback now

it's an inter possibly two stting think

that's a good thing why not what do you

mean I think it's strange to have two

quarterbacks I I think it's like they

don't know if the the second one can

play Justin Fields they don't know if

either play they don't know if either if

if Russ let's say they had Russ last

year and doing exactly what he did 26

touch

eight picks top six they had the season

no they they seven they may have won

more than 10 games see so I don't I so

they had the worst quarterback play in

the league by a mile and still won and I

I understand that and the Broncos and

again I we disagree about Russ's play

last year my point is the Steelers last

year with Russell Wilson at quarterback

or the rotating cast of characters they

had their ceiling was going to be

getting bounced in round one and that's

what it was like if they had a great

quarterback be different but Ross or

picket Mason trabis any of those guys

their ceiling was going to be bouncing

around okay uh checking on the bear side

of things we reportedly turned down a

better offer for Fields Courtney Corin

writing on ESPN the Bears had an

additional offer with stronger draft

capital from a team with an established

starter per Source but chose to send

fields to Pittsburgh with the hopes of

putting the 25-year-old in a position to

continue his development first as a

backup to Wilson and eventually as a

starter your reaction bro well what was

better fifth round sixth round that's

not conditional where it could get

better like straight six round pick I

mean if it was that close then I think

they did the right thing because you

send a message to players or at least

you theoretically do that hey we care

about our players and their future CU

there's already the feeling that you did

not do right by Justin Fields because

didn't put players around him that could

help him win and he had two head coaches

two offensive coordinators so you may

not have given him a chance in some

people's eyes so now you do this hey

we're looking out for him if it

significantly was better which I doubt

but let's say somebody's offering a

third round pick you got to do you got

to do you got to do what's best for your

team regardless so I agree with that so

I might so this is the scenario I

painted to you before the show Wilds cuz

what they got was a sixth in a year you

know not this year's draft next year

draft that could be a four if he plays

more than half those games let's say

buffalo called cuz we know Buffalo

wanted a backup quarterback because they

signed Mitch trabis inexplicably to more

than the league minimum but set that

aside say buffalo called and said we'll

give you our fifth round pick this year

for Justin Fields I don't think it's bad

business for Chicago to say yeah we're

not do it the gap between the value on

those is not enough given the fact he is

clearly very popular in the locker room

and I understand it's business not

personal when people talk about the

Bears doing Justin Fields wrong they I

sometimes that stuff bothers me in this

specific case and I thought Danny when

he was on on Friday made a good point

when you look at the blowby blow of it

year one Justin you're not going to play

Andy Dalton is Andy Dalton gets dinged

he's all of a sudden starting week three

year two we want to be the worst team in

the league we're going to trade roquan

Smith we're going to tra we're going to

take all our dead cap right now which I

thought was the long-term smart thing

for the team brutal for the player right

and then year three all of a sudden it's

like okay we're kind of ready to be good

but we're also changing the offense on

the flight those things I understand why

they would be like you know what he

handled himself aside from one press

conference right his teammates like him

let's not send him somewhere where he

has no chance of being the starter

unless you know like to Bru point the

return is so good we have to put

business ahead of it

way there been rep like oh they had a

two or a offered to them if they did

they turned that down back when they

thought they were still going to be able

to get that not because they were they

didn't have that wasn't available now

exactly right that that offer was gone

when they took this one and not

presented like well they could have

taken a three this week and in said they

took this that I do not believe at all

meanwhile Caleb to the bear is basically

done you know I'm not a professional

investment broker and I don't give

investment advice but minus 4,000 would

mean you get two and a half% return on

your money in six weeks that's a great

that's a great that's better than any

stock you're going to get America if you

can put that because it is a 100% chance

he is drafted by the Chicago Bears

number one and so minus 4,000 you bet

4,000 make a 100 bucks can't do that

guaranteed in the market but now to the

point uh the Bears are better than

people think and they were last year and

they have since added things so the

Bears the Luke I'm e flu would tell you

his defense can't function unless it has

at least one a-level pass rusher to then

have everything rotate off the back end

of it so how did the Bears look once

they added Montes sweat who is not

that's not adding Prime Von Miller but

it's adding a good player all of a

sudden they were fine it's not like they

were great they were fine they outscored

their opponents they had top 10 points

per game and opponents yards per game

defense they have now added to DJ Moore

who with quarterbacking that evidently

was only worth a sixth round pick did

this last year Keenan Allen and Keenan

did that in only 13 games now I think

Keenan is going to be less productive

because of his age but you then add the

fact that in addition to Caleb Brew they

are going to with the ninth pick of the

draft either be able to add romad dun

Brock Bowers with the second tackle off

the board or the first or second def

Defensive Player of any position off the

board and they added Swift so I expect

the seven and 10 bears with better

quarterbacking more Talent not the dead

cap that had been weighing down the last

two years to be a 10 or 11 win team so I

expect them to make the playoffs all

right so you you came on strong at the

end saying they're going to make the

playoffs because this question I think

Nick hacked your computer why and threw

Dark Horse in there oh no because when

we talked about it on the phone call

it was are they making the playoff I

will pick them to make the playoffs as

of now so are dark I don't believe in

dark non in the hunt will they be I'm

not are they making the playoff yeah

they'll be in the hunt but here's the

thing I think Detroit and Green Bay are

definitely making the playoffs and that

so that's two in that division so you I

think you like those teams too if I

remember Nick's tears I think both werey

yeah the Bears I think the Bears were on

the I mean the Bears were quite high as

well

we're going to have three I I don't

think you saying three from that

division but I think I still think

Dallas and Philly I know I don't have

like a strange team in here but Atlanta

I got uh and then San Francisco and the

Rams so you have the same playoffs as

last year with Baker out and the Falcons

in that's not going to happen it's just

not going to be the same we will see I

mean but that's the the it's just not

you yelled at me when I didn't think

bejan Robinson would be Rookie of the

Year I'm just saying I'm just saying and

so I just think that if you let me put

it a different way brw cuz if go ahead

sorry no I'm just saying which one's not

making it Detroit or they could have

three cuz the NFC is kind of weak but I

think I think those two are I almost

think you're looking at it from the

wrong direction which is aside from the

NFC South which we think you know what I

mean there's could have a division right

but Atlanta and Tampa could no what I'm

let me ask it a different way let's just

say Atlanta's in if another NFC team

that missed the playoffs last year is is

going to make it which most years

there's at least two new per conference

are the bears not the best bet the

options would be Washington or the

Giants the the Bears uh and the fourth

NFC North team oh The Who Am oh the

Vikings the Vikings the you don't have a

quarterback right now we said the NFC

South we said New Orleans Carolina

Atlanta and then Seattle or Arizona like

some people might say Seattle they got a

new head coach if you think there's

going to be a bounceback year from Kyler

I get it my point is I think I think the

Bears are the best is the right dark

hores cuz I don't think Caleb's going to

be CJ Stout now I think Caleb will be

good eventually and but I think this

year he'll show promise he'll make us

say yeah that was the right pick but I

don't think he's coming in like CJ so

but CJ I I think you even if you're

right on that CJ had to be CJ because

that Texans team was earned the number

two pick on their own volition that

Texans team was was awful the year

before they were a three- win team no I

get it but you're saying because they

were bad he had to be so good no no I'm

giving CJ credit my point is if we if

the Bears were the typical number one

pick team we would expect usually about

a three- win Improvement if they draft

the right quarterback my point is a

three- win Improvement for the Bears is

10 because they won seven g games last

year that's not bad yeah I'll buy that I

I might buy that so you really I might

buy it argument it's a who you pick to

win the N te oh my gosh BR who you pick

to win the NFC last year and they made

the playoffs the

Eagles short of the turnovers we were

heading the right direction body

betrayed him everyone knows back thanks

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