Dem Super Tuesday REVOLT: Uncommitted, Adam Schiff Shouted Down
Summary
TLDR这段视频讨论了民主党初选中一些引人注目的结果,尤其关注了在多个州中反对拜登的票数显著增加的情况。特别指出,明尼苏达州有高达20%的选民选择了未投票给任何候选人的选项,反映出选民对拜登政策的不满。节目还提到了美国萨摩亚的情况,一个相对不知名的候选人在那里战胜了拜登。讨论触及了这些选举结果对民主党的意义,以及这种民意变化可能对未来选举产生的影响。
Takeaways
- 😀在民主党初选中,拜登在美国萨摩亚输给了在美国本土极其著名的人物。
- 🤔拜登在多个州遭到未承诺票的尴尬,全国范围内未承诺票的表现引人关注。
- 🗣️尽管拜登实际上正在竞选连任,但他在超级星期二没有发表胜利演讲。
- 📉在明尼苏达州,接近20%的选民投给了未承诺票,显示出对拜登的不满。
- 🌍关于加沙地带的政策,民众对拜登的不满通过未承诺票在多个州表现出来。
- 💬民众通过未承诺票表达对拜登政府应对加沙地带冲突的不满和寻求停火的愿望。
- 👥在伊朗奥马尔所在的明尼苏达第五区,未承诺票可能赢得至少一名代表。
- 🔍选民的不满不仅限于加沙政策,还涉及年轻人对当前政治姿态的普遍不满。
- 📺媒体报道和公众讨论强调了对拜登处理加沙问题政策的批评和对未承诺票背后动力的分析。
- 🚀未承诺票的强劲表现反映出民众对当前政治领导和外交政策的广泛不满。
Q & A
乔·拜登在2024年民主党初选中的表现如何?
-根据视频内容,拜登在多个州的初选中遭遇了来自"无党派"选民的大量反对票,被视为对他在加沙问题上的政策的不满。在明尼苏达州,近20%的选民投了无党派票,在科罗拉多州和俄克拉荷马州也有类似情况。
这些"无党派"选票反映了什么信号?
-视频认为,这些选票反映出民主党选民,尤其是年轻选民对拜登在巴勒斯坦-以色列冲突中支持以色列的立场深感不满,认为这是在纵容种族屠杀。它被视为对拜登政策的强烈抗议。
亚当·希夫在加州参议院初选中的表现如何?
-亚当·希夫获得了33%的选票,将与另一名候选人进入加州的决选。但是,视频指出,加州选民对加沙问题的关注程度似乎不如其他州那么高。
视频对亚当·希夫在公开场合遭到抗议者打断有何评论?
-视频认为,像希夫这样的民主党establishment人士在公开场合不断遭到抗议,反映出年轻选民对他们在加沙问题上的立场强烈不满,这对他们的竞选活动造成了相当大的困扰。
视频如何评论拜登阵营对选民关切的回应?
-视频认为,拜登阵营只是在语言上做出一些调整,但政策本身并未发生实质变化。他们试图用改变语言上的措辞来掩盖实际上对巴勒斯坦人的犹太种族屠杀行为并未改变的事实。
视频对亲以色列游说团体美国以色列公共事务委员会(AIPAC)的行为有何评论?
-视频指出,AIPAC在加州参议院初选中花费数百万美元反对一名只是略微批评过内塔尼亚胡的亲以色列候选人,显示出它已经变得非常激进,不分是非地支持以色列,即使候选人的立场并不算反以。
视频对南德克萨斯地区选民行为有何解读?
-视频认为,南德克萨斯地区有不少选民投票给了一名反对拜登的候选人,反映出该地区选民对拜登政策的不满,加之2020年和2022年该地区向共和党人倾斜的趋势,可能会彻底改变得克萨斯州的选举版图。
视频对民主党主流媒体(如MSNBC)的评论是什么?
-视频批评MSNBC的一些主持人对选民关切移民问题的态度带有轻视和鄙夷,认为这种对待选民的态度是错误的。
视频对年轻选民在一些特别选举中的作用有何看法?
-视频认为,年轻选民在一些涉及堕胎权利的特别选举中的大量投票,帮助民主党获胜,因此民主党不应无视他们对巴以冲突等问题的关切。
视频对贝尼·甘茨访问华盛顿与共和党人会面有何评论?
-视频暗示,以色列方面与包括马加人在内的共和党人接触,这种做法可能并不明智,因为它可能会进一步加剧美国两党在巴以问题上的对立。
Outlines
😮 民主党初选的惊人结果
讨论了民主党初选中的一些意外结果,特别是美国萨摩亚的情况,其中乔·拜登输给了一个在本土非常有名的人。讨论还触及了拜登在各州遭遇的挑战,特别是未决定票的高比例,以及这表明的对他政策的不满,尤其是关于加沙地带的情况。明尼苏达州的选举结果尤其引人注目,未决定票达到了显著的比例,显示了选民对现状的强烈不满。
😡 对拜登政策的强烈不满
深入探讨了民主党内对拜登政策的广泛不满,尤其是关于加沙的政策。讨论了明尼苏达的选举结果和民主党初选中出现的'无党派候选人'的现象,反映了对拜登政策的抗议。此外,还讨论了这种不满情绪如何影响选民的投票行为,以及对民主党未来选举可能产生的影响。
😞 年轻选民的失望与动员
分析了年轻选民对民主党的失望情绪,尤其是他们对拜登政府在以色列和加沙政策上的不满。探讨了这种情绪如何体现在初选的结果上,以及年轻选民如何通过投票表达对拜登政策的不认同。此外,还讨论了这种趋势对民主党未来的影响,特别是年轻选民的投票动员问题。
🔥 加州政治动态与选举结果
讨论了加州的政治环境和初选结果,重点关注了民主党内的竞争以及选民对各种候选人的支持。分析了不同候选人的表现,特别是针对以色列政策的态度如何影响了他们的选票。此外,还讨论了加州特有的政治问题,如高昂的竞选费用和候选人知名度对选举结果的影响。
🚀 德克萨斯州和南德克萨斯的选举观察
分析了德克萨斯州尤其是南德克萨斯地区的选举结果,讨论了不同族群选民,特别是拉丁裔选民对民主党和拜登政策的态度。讨论了文化身份和地方政治如何影响选民的选择,以及这对民主党未来在该地区的选举策略可能产生的影响。
🌟 美国萨摩亚的选举插曲与影响
详细讨论了美国萨摩亚在民主党初选中的特殊情况,其中一个相对不知名的候选人战胜了乔·拜登。分析了这一事件背后的含义,以及它如何体现美国政治景观中的多样性和不可预测性。同时,还考察了这一结果对全国政治舞台的潜在影响。
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Keywords
💡民主党初选
💡美属萨摩亚
💡未表态票
💡加沙
💡民意
💡迷你苏达州
💡拜登
💡选民动员
💡巴勒斯坦
💡代表
Highlights
Joe Biden lost American Samoa to a guy who's extraordinarily famous here in the mainland, Jason Palmer.
Across the country, Biden was embarrassed by the uncommitted vote, with voters protesting his policies.
In Minnesota, close to 20% voted uncommitted and almost 30% were protest votes against Biden.
The younger a precinct was, the stronger the support for uncommitted in Minnesota.
Minnesota will send at least 3 delegates representing a pro-Palestine, anti-Gaza war stance.
Minnesota's governor acknowledged voters are deeply concerned about the Gaza situation.
Around 10% of voters in states like Massachusetts, Colorado, and Oklahoma voted uncommitted against Biden.
Adam Schiff spent more money propping up a Republican opponent than his own campaign in California.
Protesters interrupted Adam Schiff's events over his stance on Israel-Palestine.
62% of Biden 2020 voters want to block weapons shipments to Israel according to a poll.
Biden's stance on Israel-Palestine is disturbingly out of step with Democratic voters' views.
Biden risks losing enthusiasm from young voters, who were key to his 2020 victory.
In Texas, the Democrat Armando Perez got significant protest votes against Biden.
The cultural shift making Hispanic voters in South Texas lean more Republican is concerning for Democrats.
AIPAC is spending millions against even mildly Israel-critical Democratic candidates like David Min.
Transcripts
Ryan uh let's talk about what happened
in the Democratic primary last night
because some of these results were
really interesting huge shout out to
American
Samoa yes American Joe Biden lost
American s Samoa to a guy who's
extraordinarily famous here in the
mainland on the mainland uh but other
otherwise he was embarrassed in a lot of
States uh by the uncommitted vote
basically across the country uh we do
not have a speech to show you from Joe
Biden because even though he is running
for real election he did not give a
super Tuesday victory speech instead he
uh kind of stared blankly out at a at a
crowd after mumbling that he would get
in trouble if he took questions it's
almost too painful a video to even
subject you guys to so we're not even
not even going to show it because it
would we that would make us complicit in
the elder abuse that is being uh dealt
out to Joe Biden not that I have any
sympathy for him given uh you know what
he's doing in Gaza right now so you kind
of kind of guess what he has coming to
him yet it's still kind of painful and
sad to watch that's for sure all right
so let let let's get to what the voters
are doing to them we can start in
Minnesota is put this put this first one
up here uh kind of a shocking to The
Establishment result in Minnesota with
close to 20% of the electorate uh uh
voting uncommitted this is a campaign
that had about a week to organize itself
and that that's on top of 8% for Dean
Phillips yes by the way so almost
30% just just between the two of those
against Biden uh people were say so they
spent about $5,000 over the course of a
week something like that to organize
this campaign organizers for that uh
campaign were telling me over over the
course of the week that they actually
expected to outperform Michigan because
the the phone banking that they were
doing was just landing on voter after
voter after voter who was telling them
uh no we're already uncommitted like it
basically it was an it was organic that
it spread from New Hampshire over to
Michigan and then in into Minnesota in
Ilan Omar's District which is number
five in Minnesota uh they'll win they'll
win at least a delegate they may win
three delegates at least across the
state that means the party process in
Minnesota is going to send at least
three people to Minnesota who will be
representing kind of a free Palestine
ceasefire and the war in Gaza vote huge
Somali Muslim population obviously
outside Minneapolis but there was also
this you know uh the correlation between
age and support for uncommitted was
basically one to one the younger a
Precinct was the stronger the support
was there was one Precinct that had
something like 80% for uncommitted that
must be a fun neighborhood so the the
governor addressed this uh we have a
clip of that let's let's roll Tim Waltz
Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz about
40,000 votes right now 20% of the vote
going to uncommitted and we've seen that
already in this Primary in um in
Michigan what message are voters in your
state trying to send to President Biden
and what do you want to see President
Biden do in
response yeah look they're engaged we're
really proud Minnesota civic
responsibility we have some of the
highest voter turnouts these are voters
that are deeply concerned as we all are
the situation in Gaza is is intolerable
um and I think trying to find a solution
a lasting two-state solution certainly
the president's mooved towards
humanitarian Aid and asking us to get to
a ceasefire that's what they're asking
to be heard and that's what they should
be doing uh we've gone through this
before and we know that now we make sure
we've got 8 months we start bringing
these uh folks back in we listen to what
they're saying uh that's a healthy thing
that's happening here but I would note
that uh that the former president uh
lost twice as many votes here in
Minnesota to Nikki Haley and I've seen
some of these exit polls out of North
Carolina and others 80% of folks said
they're not voting for him who voted for
Nikki Haley we'll get these folks back I
think it's take them seriously their
message is clear that they think this is
an intolerable situation and that we can
do more and I think the president's
hearing that all right let's bring back
Crystal and Sager into the conversation
uh Chrystal what do you make so not of
the not not only in Minnesota North
Carolina Colorado around the country
Minnesota had the strongest performance
for uncommitted but around the country
it was clear uh that there is like
widespread dissatisfaction uh with with
Biden and with his war effort what what
did you make of it yeah when you combine
uncommitted and keep in mind that not
all of these states had uncommitted on
the ballot um which is why you should
consider you know the votes for Maryann
and the votes for Dean and the votes for
uncommitted I think you should count all
of those as basically Biden protest
votes and also whatever other candidates
Jen and the other like unknown
candidates that popped up on some of
these ballots so quite significant um
the Minnesota performance is nothing
short of astonishing and I heard this
talking point over and over again on CNN
like oh sure Biden lost a few votes but
look at Nikki Haley eating into trump it
is a very different deal to to vote for
an actual candidate and also by the way
for it to be a lot of Democrats and
independents who are voting for that
actual candidate then to have voters
taking the time out of their day to show
up to directly say screw you and your
disgusting immoral policy Visa V Gaza I
mean that is extraordinary with no money
think of how much money Nikki Hy spent
there was almost literally no money
spent on this effort in Minnesota it
popped up in a week's time and
outperformed by percentage
what was done in Michigan so I think it
is absolutely extraordinary and I do
think that you have seen a rhetorical
shift from the Biden Administration
directly because of this uncommitted
protest vote so you saw you know kamla
Harris with some more strenuous language
backing basically the same policy but
you also see all of the Dem flax out
there instead of going back to oh well
Israel has a right to defend itself now
the line is well Biden is working day
and night to you know try to secure this
ceasefire and he hears them and he
agrees with them so basically trying to
Gaslight but you can see there has been
an impact and that they are feeling
pressure you couple that with the just
abject horror of the flower Massacre and
I think you do see that they are feeling
some kind of pressure from this movement
which will only continue and grow post
super Tuesday and once again the results
show this is not just a problem with
Arab American this isn't just a problem
with Muslim Americans or some other
narrow demographic group if you are a
Democrat and you want to win the
presidency of the United States once
again you need young people to show up
for you and not to stay home and young
people are sending you as loud and clear
a message as they possibly can that this
current posture viav Israel and Gaza is
utterly unacceptable and Biden wouldn't
have won without a pretty decent Surge
from young voters in 2020 I mean his
margins either yeah absolutely and one
second Ryan can you break down the other
states for everybody the
uncommitted yes because I know that we
have all the other states there do we do
we have the element that that we can put
up here all right so let yeah let's
let's run through these uh quickly so uh
there we've got North Carolina rocking
in at at 133% which is you know pretty
pretty strong performance at least as
strong as uh Michigan uh move move to
the next one we got
Massachusetts coming in at almost 10%
with another uh nearly 5% for Dean
Phillips uh move on to the Colorado
primary uh what eight almost 9% uh plus
then a handful you know so you're
looking at almost 20% kind of protest
votes with about 10% uh there and then
the Oklahoma primary uh almost 10% of
Oklahoma Democrats um saying uh un
uncommitted like end end this war and if
you know the if the Democratic party was
but also nine and N for Dean Phillips
and Marion Williamson yes right right
which it's also a protest vote at this
point yes and you know so if if the
party was an actual like power seeking
operation that ran rationally somebody
like the guy you just saw the Minnesota
Governor Tim Walls would he'd be the
nominee you know probably Waltz uh you
know to into into the white house
instead dad joke yeah do you like that
one no you loved it uh instead to
Crystal's Point all we're getting is
this kind of change in rhetoric and if
you boil down what their change in
rhetoric is it's we are not complicit in
this evil we are just too weak and
incompetent to stop it which is okay I
guess that makes us feel better about it
maybe but that's not much of a selling
point at
all well actually this is interesting
because in California here's
establishment darling Adam shiff uh if
we put B6 up on the screen the primary
this is a huge primary election in
California people know the high-profile
candidates uh Katie Porter Barbara Lee
uh now Steve Garvey actually did better
than Katie Porter and Barbara Lee's
margins here or their percentages here
put together uh so this goes to the
Jungle Primary runoff type situation
Adam Schiff secured 33% of the vote uh
I'm just curious Ryan Crystal sger what
your take is on uh you know with with
the Middle East weighing so heavily on
Democratic voters Minds Adam Schiff is a
Biden establishment Ally also a
conspiracy monger and weirdo but that
aside um I mean that's a it did not
weigh in here in this in this California
primary it's very it's very interesting
Barbara Lee you know uh fairing fairing
terribly I was actually in California
over over the
weekend talking to a voter uh who is his
his primary issue was uh anti-war and
later in the conversation he said I hope
Barbara Lee wins her re-election I was
like actually you know she's running for
Senate he's like what he's like no way
that's awesome that's that's that's so
cool it's like Barb Barbara Lee is so
screwed like this is like this is like
her base and he didn't even know uh that
she was running which goes to the
problem for anybody running in
California that it's just so insanely
expensive but Sager uh what do you make
of that well California obviously
basically a rigged you know electoral
system so like let's all be honest
around that uh especially with the
Dynamics that you just uh highlighted
also just to pick up on that we have a
saw here some of the protesters who were
interrupting Adam shiff and this goes to
the question of how that will play out
in the actual general election let's
take a listen to
[Applause]
that to thank you so as everybody could
see I mean this is going to be an
everpresent problem I think for many of
these establishment Democratic
politicians we covered previously on our
show about how Joe Biden is going to
like extensive lengths not to campaign
um and college campuses pretty
humiliating when the sitting Democratic
president you can't go to a college
campus Al honestly Ryan that may be why
he didn't do a victory speech last night
and they're just terrified as I
understand it they've been contracting
some thirdparty security service to try
and screen people before you go in I
mean once we've gotten to that point you
know thing things are not looking good
for you and it is humiliating because
you've not only got the votes in terms
of uncommitted but you've also got the
physical manifestation of that at every
public appearance that you make from
here on thus far so overall I mean I'm
just coming back to the same Trump issue
where crystal is Right many of those
people who voted in the primary are Dem
are just probably Democrats here though
you know we have a probably a bigger
problem just given the gap between like
the policy that would actually have to
happen to even get maybe half of these
people back in the door it's very likely
that he could if there is a fatal blow
in November there will be many many
reasons as to why that happened but it's
very likely we can trace a lot of it
back to here and to this right now yeah
a Democrat not being able to go to a
college campus is like a republican who
couldn't campaign in The Villages
Florida and and underscoring that point
if we could put up B3 and then Chris I
want to get your uh response to this
this the element B3 this polling that
shows that even among uh Republicans 30%
of Republicans want arms shipments
blocked uh to Israel but 6 62% of Voters
who supported Biden in 2020 want the US
to block weapons shipments to Israel uh
ceasefire and blocking weapons shipments
is not a divisive or controversial
position it is the overwhelming majority
position of democratic voters uh yet it
is in stark contrast to what the
president is actually doing
Crystal yeah that's exactly right and I
continue to bring this up but I am
struck by the poll that found that a
majority of Joe Biden 2020 voters say
Israel is committing a genocide I you
just
cannot possibly overstate the sea change
in American politics that has occurred
Visa the view of Israel and the view of
our relationship with regards to Israel
and so when you see you know the actions
of someone like Joe Biden who's been in
DC for 50 years and has this view of
Israel that d back you know hasn't
progressed since 1970 and whatever he
thought of it at the time the other
thing is that you know one of his
Ironclad Like rules of the road in
politics is you never lose by being too
pro Israel because you know there's much
more funding on that side I'm just not
trying to be an anti-semitic comment
it's just statement of reality given the
the funding behind APAC and how
influential that has been and how
comparatively I mean there's basically
no funding benefit to be gained on the
Palestinian side of the equation um and
also typically the people who vote on
that issue are the people who are most
vifer usly lock step for whatever it is
that Israel wants to do um that
particular Dynamic May well be changing
I think that's the piece that is
different that Biden and many other
Democratic politicians really haven't
accounted for that now you have this
very very impassioned and frankly
radicalized group of predominantly but
not exclusively young voters who are
voting directly on this issue and so I
think that's part of you know where the
disconnect and why they've been so slow
to even change the rhetoric with regards
to Israel and Palestine let alone they
still haven't changed the policy so this
is a massive issue that you know there
videos every day coming out of Kirsten
gillan's Town Hall you know so many
protesters there AOC getting chased out
of a movie theater because she won't
call it a genocide Adam shiff getting
shouted down at his own victory speech
every single Democrat is being held to
account for this monstrous abhorent
policy that again a majority of their
own party says makes them complicit in a
genocide so I think the political
landscape has completely flipped in a
way that many of these politicians
haven't accounted for um just to throw
on a couple things specifically about
California don't claim to be a political
expert in the ins and- outs of
California politics I do want to mention
Adam Schiff spent I think more money
propping up the Republican candidate
than he did even on his own campaign
because he wanted to make sure he wasn't
up against another Democrat in the fall
because he feels very confident of
course in California he can beat a
republican he wasn't so confident he
could beat say Katy Porter Barbara Lee
head-to-head the other thing is my
understanding based on you know the what
I've seen of the the messaging in that
race is that none of them really put
Gaza at the core of their messaging and
yes barbar Lee is seen as like you know
generally anti-war but she hasn't been
leading the charge in the way that say a
Rashida Talib or like an ilhan Omar has
and California also their uncommitted
vote um you know protest vote on super
Tuesday was one of the lower ones of the
states that actually went for whatever
reason I'm not really sure why and I
think it's also worth mentioning while
we're in California that both uh George
gasone in LA and Jose Garza in Travis
County which soccer you're obviously
very familiar with held on to their
seats in these pretty competitive
Democratic primaries uh not super close
either and that contrasts with the mood
of the country back in 2022 where it was
sort of like oh you know Democrats are
going to have to you attack to the
center in order to make up uh from this
backlash of 2020 well then dos came down
and now we're here and Israel happened
so I think there's just there's so much
going on with young voters in particular
for Democrats that if there's going to
be a wakeup call uh you would think the
results that are coming in showing you
know some some seriously alarming drops
and enthusiasm for Joe Biden that could
affect turnout could affect his margins
could affect third parties uh these
would be those red flags those warning
signs but Ryan there was a a glaring red
flag last night in American samawa in
the form of Jason Palmer Jason Jason
Palmer ran what is I think it's got to
be the coolest campaign uh ever uh so he
beat Biden for the delegates from
American Samoa uh congratulations to yes
Jason Palmer very very well known here
in the here in the mainland uh let's
let's play a little bit of the the case
that he made to American Samoan voters
I'm asking for your support and vote and
would love to talk to you about why I
believe I'm the best candidate for
American Samoa a beautiful and diverse
territory that needs much more attention
and support from our federal government
you're probably wondering who is this
Jason Palmer I've never heard of him
before well in the main M land I'm
actually very well known I mean I can I
can vouch for that
right that is the man as soon as I saw
I'm like Jason Palmer the man I don't
know if you saw Fox News call the race
um for Jason Palmer but Brett Bear was
really confused in the video he was like
I don't know who that is he's out of
touch he's out of touch Jason Palmer's
huge and Jason Palmer looks like a he's
a realtor in you know Suburban
Minneapolis or something he's got the
Martin Luther King spe in the background
it's just uh like if if you were
watching the video he really had a frame
picture of Martin Luther King giving his
American giving his I Have a Dream
speech behind him I mean it was just
perfect in so many ways Ryan yeah
incredible congratulations uh to to
Jason Palmer krisen Sager you voting for
him yeah maybe absolutely I'm gonna
write him in in the fall he's a very
well-known figure you know known about
him for years yeah he's big on Tik Tok I
think I don't know something like that
the Zoomers love him too good the kids
the love so good for Jason Palmer very
very exciting love love to love to see
it well Sager I want to toss this last
element to you um in the block this is
more results out of Texas again I think
what the theme of this block um when it
comes to how Biden performed last night
on super Tuesday we can go ahead and put
B10 up on the screen just some really
some of the signs from the polling
that's found Biden starting to flag with
Hispanic voters black voters young
voters started to show up in the returns
yesterday talk to us a little bit about
these results from Cameron County yeah I
had big uh eyes in South Texas just
because that was such a big flip that we
saw that happened um in 2020 in some
cases moving like 40 to 50% of the vote
from Hillary Clinton to Trump what you
saw last night was actually pretty
fascinating it's not just Cameron County
but what we tried to highlight there is
a lot of the results all across South
Texas where you actually saw a pretty
significant uh you saw pretty
significant protest vote for Armando
Perez serat um who is a Democrat he's
kind of an all over the place all over
the place gentleman but critically um
was somebody who came out very hard
against Joe Biden said that he was too
old disagreed with him on the Israel
policy uh went after a lot of the
establishment Democrats that showed me
that he was one of the most uh polling
protest vote candidates but it was
localized to South Texas uh where he
spent a lot of the time actually um
campaigning on and I think what it kind
of highlights for us here on the show is
that regardless of where people are you
know in Minnesota we saw some Dean
Phillips voters and uncommitted voters
Maryann actually did quite well here in
in Virginia where Crystal and I are you
know in certain places where there were
younger voters South Texas everyone is
localizing some of their descent against
Biden and then that comes down to how
are they actually going to come out and
vote and if you couple Descent of the
existing Democrats and then the
Republican like surge of 2020 and really
in 2022 as well in South Texas I think
that it will fundamentally change the
electoral map of Texas such that the
Republican suburbs will vote Democrat
but they will make up for it with a lot
of uh non-bite non- colge educated
voters and I found that really
interesting in the results last night
yeah and my understanding uh from what
what's going on around there is that a
lot of this just feels kind of cultural
like the area is just becoming
culturally Republican like it's just in
the water like it used to be culturally
Democrat like you're you're a Democrat
because you in this area uh now fluoride
in the water it's the fluoride I mean I
I think some some of it is the is the
media like the the the Spanish language
um take takeover by the rightwing of the
media uh you know that that is dominant
there I
think is is where kind of you get that
in the water like that's that's kind of
what makes the water is is is what you
consume on Facebook and also then uh
through the Spanish language television
but yeah is is that is that your read
sagur and Emily that it's just BEC just
like you're just you just are a
republican like I think this is going to
go from a democratic stronghold to
pretty soon being just Republican
territory look I I don't think the
labels are useful it's just like the
tahano kind of libertarian identity has
been there for a long time uh in some
cases longer than even many people who
have lived in Texas who are white so my
point is just that trying to apply like
National like it's the right we take
over the media and all that I just don't
really think it's accurate I think a lot
of it just comes back to the fact that
they truly felt screwed um by the de
they felt abandoned by democrats on a
couple of key issues inflation was a
huge one actually in 2020 I believe if I
remember gas and uh Co checks were a
huge reason why people voted for Trump
back then but when you continue into
2022 immigration had become a massive
you know a massive massive issue down
there I mean not just there really
across the entire country I think last
night we saw as one of the number one uh
things that people were said that they
were voting on or was their top priority
especially in the Republican party so my
point is just that it doesn't come back
to Media it comes down to I think
actually genuinely local conditions and
to a broader more like libertarian
aesthetic identity combined with some
cultural conservatism that has existed
there for you know more than a hundred
years now at this point it's a very
unique part of the country I encourage
everybody to go if you can it's a it's
pretty fascinating place and there's
just a ghoulish segment on MSNBC last
night I don't know if everyone saw this
but it was J saki Rachel mat joy and
Reed laughing about how yes exit poles
found Republican voters in Virginia were
very concerned about immigration and
Jens saki was like I live in Virginia
come on and then I think one of them
Rachel mat was like well it's very close
to West Virginia in this just completely
obnoxious way and you know it's worth
noting that just a few days ago a a
Venezuelan migrant uh who was here
illegally was charged with sexual
assault against a 14-year-old in
Virginia so whatever wherever you stand
on the immigration issue it has changed
communities all over the country so I
think that was another I mean J saki is
still close with Biden world and
representative of Biden world and that's
sort of sticking your head in the sand
you guys have any final thoughts on this
uh before we kick you out and talk about
Victoria nuland I like Crystal uh go you
opened a can of worms with those
immigrant comments I'll just say that
you know I do think that a lot of the
concern which we see Spike around
election times fed by right-wing media
is a sort of like gind up moral Panic
not to say that it's not a legitimate
issue and to respond to the MSNBC people
treating voters with contempt is always
the wrong move so perhaps I'll say as
unifying comments rather than starting a
a storm here um last two Thoughts
with regards to the Democratic results
number one just wanted to flag that the
dude in California uh David Min I
believe is his name who is running to
replace Katie Porter in her seat he had
four and a half million dollars of APAC
money spent against him in that primary
and he still was able to succeed and uh
was the top finishing Democrat and will
go on to the general election and one
other note about him this guy is not
where I am on Gaza and Israel he's very
pro-israel but he was like mildly
critical of Benjamin Netanyahu which by
the way overwhelmingly Israelis are
extremely critical of Benjamin Netanyahu
but that's the reason they poured all
these millions into that race he was
able to overcome that that is somewhat
encouraging so I wanted to put that on
there and then last note with regards to
the Revolt among young people in a
number of these special elections where
the result really turned on you know
access to abortion and outrage over the
overturning of Row versus weight it was
a surge in young people an unexpected
surge in young people in those special
elections that help Democrats Democrats
secure those victories if you are
dismissing the concerns of these young
people if you are thinking they're just
going to get over what they see and what
I see as a genocide you have another
thing coming shifting your rhetoric is
not going to be enough they see right
through it and that was I think very
clear in the results last night
especially in the state of Minnesota
yeah the Dave minr was fascinating
because nobody could really understand
why APAC was spending millions of
dollars against this guy who's not even
you know that critical of Israel the
only thing people could land on his his
campaign concluded that they're just
trying to soften him up uh for the
general election against the Republican
in a swing District which suggests that
APAC is moving very much like the NRA
did the NRA was a bipartisan
Organization for for decades and then as
there became some criticism within the
Democratic party the NRA decided we're
not going to be bipartisan anymore wec
we're just going to you know be a
republican organization and doesn't
matter if a Democrat says they support
us we just feel safer over here with
Republicans that we'll you know we saw
how that worked out uh for the NRA uh
but when it comes to APAC yesterday
we're going to talk about this later
later in the show
Benny Gans was here in is here in
Washington DC Mike Johnson declined to
meet with him yeah that was fascinating
careful careful with this like alliance
with the Maga uh wing of the party here
Israel I'm not not exactly sure this is
so well thought out I'm excited to hear
you guys segment on that because I I saw
some of your analysis Ryan and I thought
it was really astute I think on the
apack side it's just like the Joker
quote like it's about sending a message
uh and I think that's they've got
unlimited amounts of money now at this
point I mean they're more flush I think
than they've ever been probably at the
peak of their spending powers and you
know in certain ways like their entire
organization was dedicated and exists
specifically for a moment like this
where even if public opinion is turning
that they can Flex their weight you know
in such a way that they can try and
enforce what they want so you know in a
certain way like they're they're really
fulfilling their mandate I think yeah
you they they they certainly are so
again on Thursday we'll be here uh the
four of us uh well all I don't know if
all four of us are starting at 8:30
we'll we'll figure it out be here at be
here at 8:30 while we preview the state
of the union and then at 10:00 there
will be for premium subscribers Q&A
analysis uh and and we'll we'll do that
as long as Saga can stay awake yeah I'll
try I'm gonna try my best all right
thank you guys for having us thank you
for having us we appreciate thanks y'
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