The Insanity of Steven Seagal

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13 Mar 202409:25

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses the enduring appeal of Steven Seagal movies and his martial arts background, particularly Aikido. It humorously highlights the improbability of Seagal's on-screen feats in his later years, contrasting them with his real-life martial arts expertise. The conversation also touches on Seagal's interactions with notable figures and his status as a Russian citizen, offering a blend of entertainment and insight into the world of martial arts and film.

Takeaways

  • 🎬 The discussion revolves around the appeal of old movies and music, highlighting their nostalgic and entertaining value despite potential flaws.
  • 🌟 Steven Seagal's later movies are mentioned as examples of films that have gained a cult following due to their perceived 'so bad, it's good' quality.
  • 👴 The humor in Seagal's later films stems from the unrealistic portrayal of an aging action hero and his equally aged special forces team.
  • 🥋 Seagal's aikido expertise is discussed, explaining its origins and practical limitations in real-world combat scenarios.
  • 🤣 The anecdote about Seagal's encounter with Jean Leal, a renowned martial artist, underscores the contrast between Seagal's on-screen prowess and real-life martial arts capabilities.
  • 🍿 Seagal's eccentricities, such as his interactions with political figures and peculiar on-screen moments, are highlighted as part of his enduring appeal.
  • 🌍 Seagal's later life activities, including becoming a Russian citizen and his ties to Vladimir Putin, are mentioned as examples of his evolving public image.
  • 🎥 The conversation touches on the theme of aging actors finding new audiences in foreign countries and the surreal experiences that come with it.
  • 🥊 The practicality of martial arts in film is debated, with aikido being cited as an example of a discipline that looks impressive but has limited effectiveness in certain situations.
  • 😅 The script includes humorous commentary on Seagal's physical appearance and his portrayal in various media, including a comedic routine by Tom Segura.
  • 📈 The narrative of Seagal's life and career is used to reflect on the nature of fame, the martial arts, and the entertainment industry's perception of action stars.

Q & A

  • What is the main difference between old music and old movies mentioned in the transcript?

    -The main difference highlighted is that old music remains enjoyable ('dope'), while some old movies are appreciated for being 'insanely bad'.

  • Which actor's movies are described as 'insanely bad' in the transcript?

    -The actor whose movies are described as 'insanely bad' is Steven Seagal.

  • What is the significance of the age of the characters in Seagal's later films?

    -The significance is that the characters, including Seagal's special forces team and the commander, are all portrayed as being quite old, which is humorously unrealistic given the physical demands of such roles.

  • What martial art is Steven Seagal known for?

    -Steven Seagal is known for Aikido, which is a martial art invented for Samurai to fight against someone with a sword, focusing on the redistribution of energy.

  • What was unique about Steven Seagal's position in Japan?

    -Steven Seagal was the first American to run a dojo in Japan, which was unusual given the cultural context.

  • What is the story about Seagal and Jean Leal mentioned in the transcript?

    -The story is that Seagal claimed he couldn't be choked out, and Jean Leal, a legendary martial artist, choked him out instantly during a sparring session.

  • What was Jean Leal's contribution to Bruce Lee's training?

    -Jean Leal trained Bruce Lee in grappling, teaching him techniques that were not commonly seen in movies at the time.

  • How does the transcript describe the effectiveness of Aikido in real combat situations?

    -The transcript suggests that Aikido would be effective against a sword-wielding opponent, but its practicality in modern combat situations, especially against wrestlers or fighters who do not commit to the technique, is questionable.

  • What is the significance of Seagal's Russian citizenship mentioned in the transcript?

    -The significance is that it highlights Seagal's changing affiliations and the perception of him becoming more associated with Russia later in his life.

  • What is the anecdote about Jean Leal and his encounter with some men in his neighborhood?

    -The anecdote is about Jean Leal confronting some men who were messing with someone's car in his neighborhood. Despite being an old man, he managed to intimidate and defeat all three men, showcasing his martial arts prowess.

  • What is the transcript's overall view on the portrayal of martial arts in movies?

    -The transcript suggests that while martial arts in movies can be entertaining and visually impressive, they often do not accurately represent the practical effectiveness of the techniques in real-world combat situations.

Outlines

00:00

🎬 Steven Seagal's Evolution in Film and Martial Arts

This paragraph discusses the evolution of Steven Seagal's film career and his martial arts background. It starts with the speaker's experience watching Seagal's movies, noting the humor found in the unrealistic portrayal of aging action heroes. The conversation then delves into Seagal's martial art specialty, Aikido, and its origins for Samurai combat. The speaker highlights Seagal's unique position as an American running a dojo in Japan and his later controversial citizenship in Russia. The paragraph also touches on Seagal's interactions with other martial arts figures, such as his encounter with Jean Leal, a renowned martial artist who once choked Seagal unconscious, showcasing the reality behind Seagal's on-screen persona.

05:02

🥋 The Practicality of Aikido and Seagal's Martial Arts Legacy

The second paragraph focuses on the practicality of Aikido, the martial art Steven Seagal is known for, and its limitations in real-world combat scenarios. It compares learning Aikido to learning a language with limited vocabulary, suggesting that it's fun but not entirely effective in a real fight. The discussion includes anecdotes about Seagal's past, his teaching days, and his encounters with other martial artists. The speaker also contrasts Seagal's early legitimate martial arts demonstrations with his later, less believable movie fight scenes, emphasizing the difference between the art form and its cinematic portrayal.

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Keywords

💡Jogan Experience movies

The term 'Jogan Experience movies' seems to be a colloquial reference to the filmography of Steven Seagal, an American actor and martial artist known for his action movies. The 'Jogan' part might be a playful misspelling or mispronunciation of 'Yoga', which is not directly related to Seagal's work but could be used to describe the unique and often criticized style of his films. The movies are characterized by their blend of action, martial arts, and often over-the-top scenarios.

💡Steven Seagal

Steven Seagal is an American actor, producer, martial artist, and musician who is known for his roles in action films. He is often recognized for his distinctive look and his portrayal of tough, no-nonsense characters. In the context of the video, Seagal's later films and his martial arts background are discussed, highlighting his transition from a respected martial artist to a subject of ridicule due to the perceived decline in the quality of his movies over time.

💡Aikido

Aikido is a modern Japanese martial art that focuses on using an opponent's energy against them, often employing throws and joint locks. It was developed by Morihei Ueshiba and is known for its emphasis on blending with the movements of the attacker and redirecting their force. In the video, Seagal's expertise in aikido is mentioned, emphasizing his background as a legitimate martial artist and how it translates (or doesn't) to the unrealistic scenarios in his movies.

💡Energy redistribution

Energy redistribution in the context of aikido refers to the technique of using an opponent's force against them by redirecting their energy. This concept is central to aikido and is used to neutralize an attacker's aggression without causing harm. In the video, this concept is mentioned to explain the philosophy behind aikido and how it is applied in combat, contrasting the real-world application with its portrayal in Seagal's movies.

💡Jean Leal

Jean Leal, mentioned in the script as 'Jean leel,' is likely a reference to Gene Lebell, a renowned judo champion and professional wrestler known for his skills in grappling. He is also known for training Bruce Lee and is a significant figure in the history of mixed martial arts. The speaker recounts a story where Lebell choked out Seagal, highlighting the contrast between Seagal's on-screen martial arts and real-world combat capabilities.

💡Mixed Martial Arts (MMA)

Mixed Martial Arts, or MMA, is a full-contact combat sport that allows striking and grappling, both standing and on the ground, using techniques from various combat sports and martial arts. The term is used in the script to emphasize the practicality and effectiveness of martial arts in real-world scenarios, contrasting with the often exaggerated and unrealistic depictions in movies.

💡Bruce Lee

Bruce Lee was a Hong Kong-American actor, martial artist, and philosopher who is widely considered one of the most influential martial artists of all time. He is known for his roles in various martial arts films and for his foundational work in developing the martial art of Jeet Kune Do. In the video, Lee is mentioned in the context of his training with Gene Lebell, emphasizing the practical application of martial arts and the contrast with the stylized martial arts seen in movies.

💡Rear Naked Choke

A rear naked choke is a chokehold used in combat sports, including mixed martial arts (MMA), where the attacker stands behind the opponent and applies pressure to the carotid arteries, which can lead to unconsciousness. The term is used in the script to describe a specific martial arts technique and to illustrate the story of Gene Lebell choking out Steven Seagal, emphasizing the difference between movie fighting and real martial arts.

💡Russian Citizenship

Russian citizenship refers to the legal status of a person recognized as a citizen of Russia, according to Russian law. In the context of the video, it is mentioned that Steven Seagal has obtained Russian citizenship, which is significant as it reflects his close ties with Russia and its government, including President Vladimir Putin.

💡Preposterous

The term 'preposterous' is used to describe something that is absurd, unbelievable, or ridiculous. In the video, it is applied to the unrealistic and exaggerated scenes from Steven Seagal's later movies, emphasizing the disconnect between the portrayal of martial arts in these films and the actual practice of martial arts in real life.

💡Samurai

Samurai were the military nobility and officer caste in medieval and early modern Japan. They were known for their strict adherence to a code of conduct called Bushido and their martial prowess. In the video, the samurai are mentioned in the context of aikido, which was developed as a method for them to defend themselves against opponents with swords, showcasing the historical and cultural significance of martial arts in Japan.

Highlights

The comparison between the nostalgia of old music and old movies, highlighting the enduring appeal of certain cultural artifacts.

The discussion of Steven Seagal's movies and the humor found in their perceived 'badness'.

The mention of Seagal's advanced age and its impact on the believability of his action scenes.

The anecdote about Seagal's special forces team being of similar advanced age, adding to the comedic element.

Tom Segura's comedic bit on Seagal, showcasing the cultural impact of his films.

The revelation of Seagal's background as an aikido specialist and the martial art's purpose.

The practical limitations of aikido in real-world combat situations, especially against wrestlers.

The humorous observation of Seagal's later films where he seemingly doesn't even stand up during fight scenes.

The unique historical fact that Seagal was the first American to run a dojo in Japan.

The discussion of Seagal's changing appearance and demeanor over the years.

The account of Seagal's interactions with foreign leaders and his eventual Russian citizenship.

The critique of Seagal's aikido demonstrations as being less effective in recent years.

The story of Seagal's encounter with martial arts legend Gene Lebell and the outcome.

The explanation of aikido's historical context and its development for disarming opponents.

The recounting of Gene Lebell's career, including his training of Bruce Lee.

The anecdote about Gene Lebell's real-life confrontation with a group of men, demonstrating his martial prowess.

The humorous recounting of Seagal's defensive move in a choke situation and its ineffectiveness against Gene Lebell.

The reflection on the practicality of martial arts in film versus real-world scenarios.

Transcripts

00:00

The jogan Experience movies are

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different than music cuz some old music

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is dope as [ __ ] right like and then I

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guess some old movies are dope too hell

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yeah I got I got pretty into like

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uh some later more recent ER Steven

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Sagal stuff like five six years ago my

00:24

friends and I would watch it cuz it was

00:25

just so insanely bad and then and then

00:29

Dan sent me uh he sent me a link to the

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come toown guys talking about these same

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films and it was like they summed it all

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up so perfectly but it was basically

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like you

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know uh one of the funny things is like

00:43

he's so old and his special forces team

00:45

that he assembles all has to be kind of

00:47

his age which mean which means which

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means their Commander has to be like 80

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you know my God so they show the

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commander with the white mustache old as

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[ __ ] that's hilarious Tom sigur had a

01:01

whole bit about Seagal dude I heard a

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story about him from from someone who

01:05

would know and they said that like this

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super agent like he was he was the the

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train personal trainer of this like

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super agent Michael hitz yeah yeah yeah

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yeah yeah and that like that he had a

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bet with his with another agent that he

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can make anybody famous and they're like

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well how about your

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trainer like and uh I guess they asked

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him like he you know to learn a martial

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art or something no no no no that's

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that's not it no Steven Seagal is a

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legit aido specialist and that's like

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the art that's the art of like de de

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aring someone what is it was it was

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invented for Samurai to fight against

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someone with a sword right so it's all

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about like a redistribution of energy

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it's all about I commit to you and then

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you throw me to the ground the problem

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with that is if someone doesn't commit

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someone just [ __ ] grabs you and

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wrestles you like a division one

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wrestler against

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theoy has zero chance there's not a

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chance in hell you're going to stop

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Daniel Cormier from taking you down it

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is there's zero chance chv grabs you

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you're going for a ride 100% of the time

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that's the other [ __ ] awesome thing

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too the Seagal the old in the in the

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like later films where he doesn't even

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get up out of the chair he just does the

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[ __ ] throws people down yeah they come

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at him and he just Fu a hot dog so this

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is Seagal when he was younger this is

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Sagal was the first American to run a

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dojo in Japan now this is later this is

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actually later because he's already got

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wacky hair just his posture is so

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disrespectful well it's the whole idea

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behind him is that he was an American

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who spoke Japanese he was married to a

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Japanese woman he ran a dojo in in Tokyo

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or somewhere in Japan but it it's it was

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very unusual for an American to be

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running a dojo but I think it was

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because he married

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the woman it's ridiculous with the the

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the the stuff where he's like uh have

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you seen the clips of him in bellus

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eating the carrots and

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stuff he's eating carrots there's a good

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some yeah he's like hanging out with the

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president or dictator of bellarus

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but

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amazing Jamie find the older footage the

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older

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footage she eating carrots I'll watch

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this you know kind of look at the way he

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dresses on watch this thank you

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you so insane his hair is insane and of

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course someone edited that so he's like

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deep Thro in the

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carrot he's checks watch he makes a good

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like tit joke about the melons here in a

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second

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nice that's the weird thing about like

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old actors that like are kind of at the

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end of the journey and they start

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appearing in foreign countries and

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meeting people I want to meet Steven S

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bring him to me and then all a sudden

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he's a Russian citizen he's got a

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passport in Russia like no [ __ ] yeah

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yeah he's a Russian citizen right I knew

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Mr Putin's always been amazing to

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me he had there's a weird thing with

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this is so this is him when he was young

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so this is before the movie days this is

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him teaching aido this is cool

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this is much better right but it's also

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not real yeah like that [ __ ] doesn't

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work it's like if you learn IO you can

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do some of those things that was such

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[ __ ] he just threw the guy behind

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his back the clips from like the last

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couple years when he's doing it it they

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just it it looks you know Preposterous

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really it's a lot of preposterousness to

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iido because the people are playing

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along with it they're going along with

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it so that's real it's also you know

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it's just [ __ ] that that's kind of

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art is like it's not you don't really

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know how to fight this it's like

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learning a language but you only learn

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like conjunctions you only learn like NS

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and buts and the and you'll learn a

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couple of vowels so it's how we speak

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Spanish it's worse it's worse it's like

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it's you you just can't only do that if

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you want to learn how to do that for

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funsies yeah it's fun to do but don't

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think you this is going to really work

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there's [ __ ] that they didn't know they

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justu work for him well it would work if

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someone had of Sword the thing is like

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the the Japanese Samurai they knew how

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to fight and then that would be an art

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that they would train in just to learn

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how to disarm sword carrying weapon you

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know like some someone who's got

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something a spear some something that's

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going to get you you lost your sword in

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battle there has to be a strategy for

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that so the Japanese came up with Aikido

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there's this dude uh that makes these he

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makes these Di Ras like that are like

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insane detail and the whole time he's

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like telling a story and he's funny as

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hell I forget his name something fingers

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but he does one of Steven Seagal and

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it's like depicting the scene that

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apparently happened where Stephen Seagal

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had told some legendary martial art

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artist guy uh that he he couldn't be

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choked out Jean leel told the story on

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my podcast oh that's hilarious so he

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does these things and yeah right well

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apparently

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he he choked him out instantly and he

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[ __ ] his pants jeene told the story on

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podcast yeah but this is this guy's true

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story it's true story Jean's a he's a

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legend Jean Leal was uh he was a he was

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a judo champion and he was like one of

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the first guys to do mixed martial arts

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fights like he had a fight with a boxer

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like way way back in the day and just

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strangled this boxer put him sleep just

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but he made the boxer wear a ghee I

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think pretty sure and he wore a ghee too

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like some weird funky rules the boxer

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had the boxing gloves on he didn't he

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just beat the [ __ ] out of the dude but

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he was the guy that also trained Bruce

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Lee he taught Bruce Lee about grappling

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like Bruce Lee had you know he was doing

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these movies and it was a little

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unrealistic like some of the things and

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Gan Leal was like let me show you what I

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could do to you he just kind of grabs

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Bruce Lee [ __ ] hoist him over his

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head and he's like listen

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settle down like let's not pretend

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you're the baddest [ __ ] on Earth

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but does that [ __ ] look good in movies

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though that no well this is him fighting

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this boxer dude does it look like the

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boxer have gloves it doesn't does it

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yeah he does he's got small gloves so

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he's what he's got essentially on her

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bag gloves and Jean just threw them to

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the ground and [ __ ] him he just

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choked him to sleep

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wow but Jean's a gorilla I mean that

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that dude's a he's a tank of a man you

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know even as an old man man some dudes

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in his neighborhood were [ __ ] with

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someone's car and uh he said hey get the

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[ __ ] out of here and they were like [ __ ]

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you old man he's like okay beat the [ __ ]

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at the three of them I it was like at

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least two guys I don't remember the the

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entire story but some poor [ __ ] idiot

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W up messing with literally the wrong

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old man the one wrong old guy the [ __ ] I

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hope I didn't [ __ ] that story up but

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he's uh the guy that choked Seagal out

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so CH Seagal was like that couldn't be

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choked and his move was when you put the

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rear naked choke on he hits you in the

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balls and the idea that you're going to

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do that to Jean the Bell like you don't

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think he's been hitting the balls

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before getting hit in the balls sucks

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but it it's it doesn't like knock you

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out it just sucks like you can't makes

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your grip even harder around the neck

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and you also have like a 3 second window

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before it really sucks J you know like

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the delayed reaction getting kicked in

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the balls you know that's there's that

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weird moment where you get hit you're

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like oh no here it

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comes and by the time jeans already put

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you to sleep I never got fully kicked

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there never only like

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grazed have you ever kicked oh yeah I

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mean I've got three brothers so there's

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lot ball

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kicking

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