I Sold Broken Consoles - Or Did I?!

TronicsFix
29 Mar 202416:00

Summary

TLDRThe video documents the troubleshooting process of two Xbox consoles that were sold but reported as non-functional by customers. The seller investigates the issues, discovering a damaged HDMI port on the Xbox Series X and potential overheating problems on the Xbox One X. Through detailed inspections and repairs, including replacing the HDMI port and possibly the APU on the Xbox One X, the seller aims to resolve the issues. However, the Xbox One X's problem remains undetermined, leading to the decision to either replace the motherboard or use the shell for another console.

Takeaways

  • 🔧 The seller received two returned Xbox consoles that customers claimed were non-functional.
  • 🎮 The Xbox One X was reported to overheat during intensive gaming, specifically with Red Dead Redemption 2.
  • 🌐 The seller had slow internet, which caused delays in installing the game for testing.
  • 📦 The Xbox Series X had a damaged HDMI port, which the customer mentioned might have been mishandled during shipping or inspection by Geek Squad.
  • 🛠️ The seller discovered a missing clamp and damage on the HDMI port, which might have caused the connection issue.
  • 🔄 The seller replaced the HDMI port on the Xbox Series X and tested it to ensure a proper connection.
  • 🧐 The seller was unsure if the Xbox One X's overheating issue was due to their疏忽 or a problem that arose after shipment.
  • 🌬️ The Xbox One X's fan spun up loudly during testing, indicating potential ventilation or APU issues.
  • 🔧 The seller decided to replace the vapor chamber and heat sink on the Xbox One X to address the overheating problem.
  • 🛠️ After repairs, the Xbox Series X worked correctly, while the Xbox One X remained problematic and was reacquired by the seller.
  • 📌 The seller's thorough inspection and repair process aimed to ensure that the consoles function as intended before being resold or returned to the customer.

Q & A

  • What was the issue reported by the buyer of the Xbox One X?

    -The buyer reported that the Xbox One X would overheat when playing intensive games like Red Dead Redemption 2.

  • How did the seller respond to the reported issues with the Xbox consoles?

    -The seller asked the buyers to send the consoles back to inspect and identify the problems. They also installed a game on the Xbox One X and conducted a thorough inspection of both consoles' hardware.

  • What specific problem was found with the Xbox Series X HDMI port?

    -The HDMI port of the Xbox Series X was damaged, and the port's clamp was missing, which could have been the reason for the HDMI connection issues reported by the buyer.

  • How did the seller attempt to fix the Xbox Series X HDMI port issue?

    -The seller used a hot air soldering station to remove the damaged HDMI port and then replaced it with a new one, ensuring the pins were soldered on solidly and adding thermal paste and a clamp for proper heat management.

  • What was the suspected cause of the Xbox One X overheating?

    -The seller suspected a faulty vapor chamber or an issue with the APU (Application-Specific Integrated Circuit) as the potential causes of the Xbox One X overheating.

  • What steps did the seller take to address the Xbox One X overheating issue?

    -The seller replaced the vapor chamber and heat sink, reformed the thermal pads for better contact with memory chips, and ensured that the thermal paste was applied correctly.

  • What was the outcome after the seller attempted to fix both consoles?

    -The Xbox Series X was successfully fixed, but the Xbox One X still had issues, leading the seller to believe it was a problem with the motherboard or the APU. The seller bought back the Xbox One X from the buyer.

  • How did the seller test the fixed Xbox Series X?

    -The seller tested the fixed Xbox Series X by connecting it to a TV via HDMI, ensuring the console turned on, and checking if the HDMI port worked correctly and didn't overheat.

  • What was the buyer's reaction to the issues with the Xbox One X?

    -The buyer of the Xbox One X opted to have a refund and return the console to the seller instead of having it repaired.

  • What was the seller's final decision regarding the Xbox One X?

    -The seller decided to keep the Xbox One X and either replace the motherboard or use its shell on a different console, as it was a less common version and had some value.

  • What was the overall outcome of the seller's efforts to diagnose and fix the consoles?

    -The seller successfully fixed the Xbox Series X but was unable to resolve the issues with the Xbox One X, which led to the decision to either replace the motherboard or repurpose its shell.

Outlines

00:00

🛠️ Xbox Repair and Diagnostics

The paragraph discusses the process of troubleshooting and repairing two Xbox consoles that were reported as non-functional by customers. The seller is actively engaged in diagnosing the issues, which include overheating for the Xbox One X, especially during intensive gaming, and a faulty HDMI port on the Xbox Series X. The seller also reflects on the possibility of missing certain issues during the initial inspection and is committed to fixing these problems, even reinstalling parts such as the HDMI port and checking for damages or missing components like the clamp. The goal is to ensure that the consoles work correctly before being sent back to the customers.

05:01

🔧 HDMI Port Replacement and Testing

This paragraph details the steps taken to replace the damaged HDMI port on the Xbox Series X. The seller uses a hot air soldering station to remove the old port and carefully replaces it with a new one, ensuring proper alignment and secure soldering of the pins. The seller also adds thermal paste and reassembles the console for testing. Despite uncertainty about whether the HDMI port was damaged prior to shipping, the seller takes responsibility for the issue and replaces the port at no charge to the customer. After fixing, the HDMI port functions correctly, even when the cable is moved around, indicating a successful repair.

10:03

🌡️ Overheating Issues and Component Inspection

The focus of this paragraph is on the investigation and resolution of the Xbox One X's overheating problem. The seller suspects a faulty vapor chamber as the potential cause and decides to replace it along with the heatsink. The process involves removing the existing thermal paste, installing new thermal pads, and ensuring good contact with memory chips. The seller also replaces the X-clamp and conducts a thorough test of the console. Unfortunately, after reassembling and testing the console, the same overheating error persists, and the fan barely spins, indicating a possible issue with the motherboard or the APU. The seller is left with the option to replace the board or use the shell on a different console.

15:04

📦 Console Refund and Future Plans

In this final paragraph, the seller shares the outcome of the repair attempts and the decision made with the customer who returned the Xbox One X due to overheating issues. Instead of having the seller fix the console, the customer opted for a refund and returned the console to the seller. The seller now owns the console again and has the option to either replace the faulty motherboard or use the shell for another console. The seller also references a previous video where a damaged Xbox Series X was purchased, repaired, and improved, inviting viewers to watch that content for more information on the repair process.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Xbox

Xbox refers to a line of video game consoles developed by Microsoft. In the video, the user is troubleshooting issues with two different models of Xbox consoles - the Xbox One X and the Xbox Series X. These consoles are central to the video's theme as the user is selling them after repairing and is now dealing with customer complaints about their functionality.

💡Overheating

Overheating is a condition where a device operates at a temperature higher than is safe or intended, which can lead to malfunction or damage. In the video, the Xbox One X is reported to overheat, particularly when playing intensive games like Red Dead Redemption 2. This issue is a primary concern for the user as it affects the performance and reliability of the console.

💡HDMI port

The HDMI port is a standardized connector used for transmitting high-definition video and audio data from a source device to a display device. In the context of the video, the HDMI port on the Xbox Series X is malfunctioning, preventing the console from connecting to a TV properly, which is a critical issue since it prevents the user from testing and demonstrating the console's functionality.

💡Thermal paste

Thermal paste is a compound applied between two surfaces to fill in the microscopic air gaps and ensure efficient heat transfer. In the video, the user checks and re-applies thermal paste to ensure proper heat dissipation from the console's components, which is crucial for preventing overheating and maintaining the performance of the Xbox consoles.

💡Vapor chamber

A vapor chamber is a heat transfer device used in electronics to dissipate heat more efficiently than traditional heat sinks. It is often used in gaming consoles to manage the heat generated by the CPU and GPU. In the video, the user suspects that the vapor chamber of the Xbox One X might be faulty due to the console's overheating issue.

💡X clamp

The X clamp is a component used in Xbox consoles to secure heat sinks or other parts in place. In the video, the user realizes that the X clamp was missing from the Xbox Series X, which could potentially lead to inadequate cooling and is a critical part of the repair process.

💡Geek Squad

Geek Squad is a technical support and repair service offered by Best Buy. In the video, the buyer of the Xbox Series X mentioned taking the console to Geek Squad for inspection. The user speculates that the shiny spots on a label might be the result of Geek Squad's inspection process.

💡Soldering

Soldering is a process of joining two metal work pieces together with a filler metal, typically by melting the filler metal into the joint with a torch or soldering iron and allowing it to cool, creating a bond between the work pieces. In the video, the user uses a hot air soldering station to remove and replace the damaged HDMI port on the Xbox Series X.

💡Fan

A fan in the context of a computer or gaming console is a cooling device that regulates the system's temperature by circulating air. In the video, the user examines the fan of the Xbox One X to determine if it is functioning correctly, as part of the troubleshooting process for the console's overheating issue.

💡Motherboard

A motherboard is the main printed circuit board (PCB) in computers and other electronic systems that connects and communicates with other components such as the CPU, memory, and other peripherals. In the video, the user suspects that the motherboard of the Xbox One X might be faulty, as the console continues to overheat and shut down despite all other checks and repairs.

💡ApU

An ApU, or Accelerated Processing Unit, is a type of system on a chip (SoC) that combines a CPU and GPU into a single chip. In the video, the user speculates that if the replacement of the motherboard does not resolve the overheating issue of the Xbox One X, the problem might lie with the ApU, which is an integral part of the console's processing power.

Highlights

Seller's experience with two Xbox consoles that customers reported as non-functional.

Xbox One X was reported to overheat while playing intensive games like Red Dead Redemption 2.

The seller is installing the game Red Dead Redemption 2 to diagnose the overheating issue.

Xbox Series X had a damaged case and HDMI port issues reported by the buyer.

The HDMI port on the Xbox Series X was visually inspected and found to be damaged.

Seller's recollection of the Xbox Series X video where the console was initially tested and found functional.

The seller disassembled the Xbox Series X to inspect and repair the damaged HDMI port.

A missing clamp was discovered on the Xbox Series X which could have contributed to the HDMI port issue.

The seller replaced the HDMI port on the Xbox Series X and tested it for functionality.

The Xbox One X was showing signs of overheating, even with proper ventilation and thermal management.

The seller suspected a faulty vapor chamber in the Xbox One X as a potential cause of the overheating issue.

The seller replaced the vapor chamber and heat sink in the Xbox One X to address the overheating problem.

After repairs, the Xbox Series X was successfully fixed and the HDMI port worked without issues.

The Xbox One X continued to show errors despite repairs, indicating a possible issue with the motherboard.

The seller decided to buy back the Xbox One X from the customer due to the unresolved overheating issue.

The seller shared a previous video where they had worked on the Xbox Series X, providing context for the current situation.

The seller's commitment to diagnosing and fixing the consoles, showcasing a thorough and methodical approach to problem-solving.

Transcripts

00:00

I sold these two Xboxes and when the

00:02

customers received them they told me

00:03

they didn't work so I told them to send

00:05

them back so we can see what I did wrong

00:08

for this Xbox One X it's the robot wide

00:10

Edition and the buyer said that when he

00:12

plays intensive games like Red Dead

00:14

Redemption 2 it'll heat up and actually

00:17

overheat so I'm getting that game

00:19

installed right now it's taking forever

00:20

because I have really slow internet

00:22

let's take a look at the Xbox series X

00:24

and see what happened with this one so

00:26

this Xbox series X is one that I made a

00:29

video on and I think it's the one where

00:31

it had a really busted up case so I put

00:33

it into a new case but when the customer

00:36

got it he said that the HDMI wouldn't

00:39

connect correctly and just looking at

00:42

the HDMI port that doesn't look great

00:46

I'm not sure how we let this get out the

00:48

door but I'm going to get this taken

00:50

apart and let's inspect this port and

00:52

see what's going on there the other

00:53

interesting thing about this is the

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buyer said they were going to take it to

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Geek Squad to see what Geek Squad said

00:59

about it I don't know if actually did

01:00

but I think they probably did because I

01:02

was looking at this label it looks like

01:04

maybe they like heated it up so they

01:07

could peel it back I'm not really sure

01:09

though that's the only thing I can think

01:11

of that would make these shiny spots

01:12

right here is this label getting really

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warm I'm not sure why they went through

01:16

all the trouble of doing that though

01:18

when the label looks pretty terrible and

01:21

the plastic is a little bit damaged I

01:23

don't know whether the buyer actually

01:24

took it there or not though they just

01:26

said that's something they were thinking

01:27

about doing so maybe this isn't from

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them either way let's get this back

01:31

cover off and get the guts out of it and

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have a look at that

01:38

Port yep I remember this little bit of

01:41

damage right here on the board there's a

01:43

little damage over here too I remember

01:45

those two from that video I made I don't

01:48

remember the port being this damaged it

01:50

is possible that when the buyer got it

01:52

maybe they tried to plug the HDMI poured

01:54

in and maybe bent this a little bit more

01:56

than it was or something I I feel like

01:58

if I would have noticed it being the bad

02:00

I would have replaced it but I do miss

02:02

things too so maybe not now before we go

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any further on disassembly let's

02:06

actually plug this in and turn it on and

02:08

see if we get a signal on the TV through

02:10

this HDMI port and also let's just make

02:13

sure the thing works you never know

02:15

sometimes shippers are pretty rough on

02:16

these things power

02:20

HDMI okay fan is spinning it's turning

02:25

on and we get

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nothing

02:34

yep nothing at all the TV so it does

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turn on up fully so we definitely have a

02:39

problem on this HDMI system now that

02:41

does make me wonder a little bit because

02:43

I know before we shipped it out we

02:45

tested to make sure the HDMI

02:48

worked so I'm not really sure what would

02:51

be going on to make it not work at all

02:54

we wouldn't have shipped something out

02:56

that didn't work at all sometimes we do

02:57

miss things but that's something we

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tested

03:00

very specifically both in the video I

03:03

made and then also again before we Shi

03:06

it out so I'm not sure what's going on

03:10

here ah yes I remember this

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one this connector was kind of uh broken

03:17

off the board right here so I put some

03:20

conformal coating on there to help

03:22

attach it to the board looks like it's

03:24

still on there pretty

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good

03:31

so this is a little worrisome unless I'm

03:35

missing something here there's no clamp

03:39

here there's no thermal paste here or

03:42

here either is the thermal paste on the

03:44

other side feels like there

03:48

is okay there is thermal paste there

03:51

thermal pads there okay so that's normal

03:54

at least but why is there no

03:58

clamp I I would feel really dumb if I

04:02

didn't put the clamp back in here okay

04:05

let's go to the video and see if I show

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putting the clamp in and also see how

04:09

damaged this HDMI port is okay I pulled

04:13

up the video $150 for a destroyed Xbox

04:16

series X that's the video that we're

04:18

working with I'm installing the perfect

04:22

amount of thermal paste of course this

04:25

is where okay the clamp is going on so I

04:29

do install the clamp on this so somebody

04:33

must have taken this thing apart and

04:34

forgot to put the clamp back on that

04:36

would have been embarrassing if it was

04:37

me but I'm pretty sure this video

04:39

clearly shows me putting the clamp back

04:41

on so whoever took it apart didn't put

04:44

the clamp back on but let's check this

04:46

video to see how the HDMI port looked

04:49

okay this shows

04:51

it uh it doesn't show it really well I

04:55

can't say for sure that the HDMI

04:58

port is perfect perfect in this but I

05:01

mean it looks pretty good it doesn't

05:04

look too bad let's compare so this is

05:08

now that was

05:11

then I mean we can't say 100% for sure

05:14

that the HDMI port was not damaged in

05:17

the video but obviously it is now and

05:20

whether it was then or not the customer

05:22

received it and it didn't work so I'm

05:24

just going to replace this HDMI port and

05:25

then just send it back at no charge just

05:27

because I can't prove that it's not

05:29

something that I missed and clearly when

05:32

the customer got it it didn't work I

05:34

think we can prove that I'm not the one

05:36

that forgot to put the clamp on though

05:38

I'm so glad that would have been very

05:39

embarrassing for me so let's get this

05:42

HDMI port replaced and then we'll make

05:44

sure and put a clamp back on so in order

05:46

to replace this HDMI port I'm going to

05:48

use a hot air soldering station and what

05:50

I'm going to do is heat it from the

05:51

bottom so my goal is to melt the solder

05:53

on the four mounting pens and then also

05:55

melt the solder on the 19 small pin on

05:57

the other side of the board and that

05:59

will enable the port to just drop down

06:01

there we

06:02

go and we got it and then I will keep

06:05

the hot air on the board while I install

06:08

the new port and then once the New Port

06:10

is up inside the holes I'll remove the

06:12

Heat and let the solder solidify and the

06:15

job will be done all right now let's

06:17

flip it over and have a look at it so

06:20

here we are under the microscope the

06:21

pins look great they're lined up

06:23

perfectly I'm going to go through and

06:25

add some solder just to make sure we got

06:27

really good strong joints so first we

06:30

need to flux it up then I'm just going

06:32

to come in with my small soldering

06:34

iron and solder each of these pins on

06:37

just to make sure they have a really

06:38

good connection here now those pins are

06:41

all soldered on nice and solidly let's

06:43

get this cleaned up inspect it one more

06:45

time then we can get it back together ah

06:49

that looks great each of these pins are

06:51

soldered on nice and

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solidly as you can

06:55

see so let's get this thing back

06:58

together

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of course we need to add a little bit of

07:01

thermal paste to make sure we have the

07:03

perfect

07:04

amount

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normally there we

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go normally I would say you need to

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clean off all the thermal paste but

07:14

since I'm the one that had this apart

07:16

not too long ago I know how much I put

07:18

on I know that it's fresh thermal paste

07:20

I'm not worried about that I'm adding a

07:22

little bit just to make sure that it

07:24

will fully spread through and make sure

07:27

that there's no air bubbles or anything

07:29

like that that once we put it on and

07:31

clamp it down I'm honestly kind of

07:33

surprised that this Xbox like worked and

07:35

turned on at all since the clamp wasn't

07:37

even installed on this thing there we go

07:40

now as this presses down it's going to

07:42

spread that thermal paste all nicely

07:45

throughout okay now let's install the X

07:49

clamp and this is video proof that I did

07:52

install it just in case you know this

07:55

thing comes back

07:56

again I don't think it will okay clamp

08:00

is installed we've all verified that now

08:03

we need to put some thermal paste

08:05

here and they use kind of like a viscous

08:09

thermal

08:11

putty so I'm going to take it from a

08:15

donor console since I've got some of

08:17

these laying

08:18

around just going to kind of scrape it

08:21

up from

08:24

here and this doesn't have to lay on

08:26

here perfectly it's similar to the other

08:29

thermal paste it'll kind of spread once

08:32

once we put these uh once I put this

08:34

piece on

08:38

here goes right there then

08:42

this right

08:47

here now I'm just going to get the rest

08:49

of this thing put back together then we

08:51

can install it into the case and then

08:53

see if it'll turn on and if it'll show

08:55

an HDMI signal after that HDMI cable

08:59

power cable all right and

09:02

power make sure it turns on good

09:07

there okay I hear the fan

09:10

good

09:12

and black screen that's better than not

09:16

and there we go so this HDMI port is

09:18

working great even when I wiggle the

09:19

cable no issues at all got a nice clear

09:22

picture I'm still not sure how bad the

09:25

HDMI port is when I sent it out we did

09:28

test it it did work and then when the

09:30

customer got it they said it didn't work

09:32

so I'm actually not sure how much of

09:33

this was my fault but ultimately they

09:35

got it and it just didn't work now that

09:37

we have the series X fixed let's turn

09:39

our attention to the Xbox One X so we

09:42

have the game finally installed I can

09:43

already hear the fan kind of like

09:45

ramping up a little bit higher than it

09:47

should I feel like but let's start this

09:49

game and see what the fan does and see

09:52

if the thing

09:56

overheats oh yeah it's getting louder

09:58

already

10:03

it's putting out a lot of air and it

10:04

actually doesn't feel that

10:07

hot

10:10

oh did it just turn itself off keep the

10:13

console

10:15

cool okay so it thinks that it doesn't

10:18

have proper ventilation okay I think all

10:20

we can do now is take it apart and see

10:22

what's going on in the inside this is an

10:24

interesting one I know before we shipped

10:27

this out we would have tested a game in

10:28

it

10:30

and I know it wasn't overheating like

10:32

this before we sent it but also we don't

10:35

test them for long periods of time

10:37

generally speaking and sometimes we

10:39

don't test really graphically intense

10:41

games because in order to test those you

10:44

have to install them which takes a very

10:46

long time

10:48

so I'm not sure what to expect with this

10:58

one

11:01

fan itself seems fine I don't expect

11:04

that the Fan's a

11:08

problem the heat sink is definitely warm

11:11

yeah that's still pretty warm actually

11:14

not sure what to think about

11:17

that okay we got the thermal pad for the

11:21

South Bridge that's

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there the X clamp is

11:27

installed and is nice and tight

11:32

he so no worries there okay with the X

11:37

clamp removed let's take a look at this

11:40

thing and see if we can figure out why

11:42

it's getting so

11:45

hot we have thermal paste

11:49

installed all of the thermal pads look

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good oh boy I don't know about this

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one

11:59

everything here looks good so I think it

12:04

probably is overheating but for some

12:06

reason it's not moving the heat away

12:09

from the chip like it should I wonder if

12:13

we have like maybe a a faulty Vapor

12:17

chamber I don't see any damage to it or

12:19

anything but I don't know I'm just not I

12:23

don't really see anywhere else to

12:25

go well I'm going to inspect this a

12:27

little bit closer and see if I see

12:29

anything if I don't see anything else I

12:31

think I'm going to replace this Vapor

12:33

chamber in heat sink and then put it

12:36

back together this is one of the only

12:39

few replacement parts replacement heat

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sinks I have left for these this one

12:44

actually looks in better condition but I

12:45

know for sure this one works and cools

12:47

so I'm going to use this one I've

12:49

already reformed these little thermal

12:51

pads just to make sure they have really

12:53

good uh contact with these memory chips

12:56

over here now we need to clean up this

12:57

thermal paste and we'll put new thermal

12:59

paste in just to make sure that's not an

13:01

issue H I already know it's not this

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thermal paste is

13:05

fine it's been spread nicely over it and

13:09

it's making good contact so I don't have

13:11

any worries there I am a little bit

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worried on this one because if none of

13:16

what we do helps that means it's

13:18

probably an issue with the Apu these

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don't have like external

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thermal uh sensors or temperature

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sensors or anything so the temperature

13:28

sensor is built right right into the

13:29

chip somewhere so if none of this works

13:33

and it still overheats uh it's likely a

13:35

problem with the

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Chip

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And there we

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go now it's for sure going to

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work there we go I am also going to use

13:52

a replacement clamp the other one seemed

13:55

fine

13:56

but just want to make sure we're

13:59

covering all our bases

14:01

here this thermal pad while not in

14:03

amazing condition it it's going to be

14:05

just

14:06

fine so now we can put this right back

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in here I don't think the fan is an

14:12

issue I'm not going to replace the fan

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because the fan was for sure working so

14:16

we heard it get loud we heard it

14:19

spinning and moving air so I don't think

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the Fan's an issue so we're going to

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reuse this

14:28

fan

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power cables plugged in HDMI is plugged

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in controller is plugged in let's see if

14:33

it turns

14:34

on great news so

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far come

14:45

on so we're getting the same error that

14:48

happened before except for now the fan

14:50

is barely spinning so I feel like the

14:53

console isn't even telling the fan to

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spin up like it was before so this tells

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me as far far as I can tell it's a

15:00

problem on the motherboard of this

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console luckily we can replace that or

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we can place this white shell on another

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Xbox 1X because this is kind of a a less

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common version so um these do go for a

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little bit more now for this one I did

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buy it back from the person I sold it to

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simply because I wasn't sure what was

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wrong and that's what they chose that

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they would like to do instead of having

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me try to fix it they just wanted to

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refund and to send it back to me so this

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one I own now and I can either replace

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that board or place this shell on a

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different console so unfortunately we

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are one out of two today h not too bad

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this one was a good easy fix this one I

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just don't know what's going on other

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than probably the Apu if you want to see

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the first video I did on this series X

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where I paid $150 for it but it was in

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really bad condition I'll leave that

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video up on your screen now so you can

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come hang out with me over there and see

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what all I had to do to this to get it

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working thanks so much for watching

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today and I hope you have a good

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one

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