NEW Fed Jan 6 Probe UNLEASHED: Terry Schilling Breaks It Down

The Hill
17 Mar 202410:19

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses the January 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol and the subsequent investigations. It highlights a report from House Republicans that contradicts the House January 6 select committee's findings, suggesting that exculpatory evidence was withheld. The conversation focuses on the allegations against former President Donald Trump, including the claim that he requested National Guard troops and the disputed account of Trump attempting to redirect his Secret Service detail. The interviewee, Terry Schilling, criticizes the select committee as biased and predicts that these events may contribute to Trump's potential re-election.

Takeaways

  • 📜 Former President Donald Trump is facing charges related to the January 6th Capitol attack.
  • 🔍 A new House Republican report offers a different narrative of the January 6th events compared to the House January 6 select committee's findings.
  • 💬 Anthony Orado, Trump's Deputy Chief of Staff, testified that Trump requested 10,000 National Guard troops for January 6, which was withheld from the January 6 committee.
  • 🚫 The report suggests that the January 6 committee had a predetermined narrative and excluded exculpatory evidence.
  • 🗣️ Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony about Trump attempting to grab the steering wheel of the vehicle, which was widely reported, was contradicted by the driver's testimony, according to the House Republicans' report.
  • 🤔 The report raises questions about the legitimacy of the January 6 committee, calling it a 'sham' and accusing it of pushing a biased narrative.
  • 🏛️ The committee's composition is criticized for lacking true bipartisan representation, with only two Republicans who were already critical of Trump.
  • 📈 The report's findings could potentially impact the public's perception and the jury's decision in any legal proceedings against Trump.
  • 🎥 The media's role in reporting the January 6th events is called into question, with allegations of spreading unverified information.
  • 🏛️ The Supreme Court's decision to not allow Trump to be removed from ballots in Maine is seen as a check on the Democrats' attempts to use the insurrection claims against him.

Q & A

  • What new perspective do House Republicans offer regarding the January 6th attack?

    -House Republicans released a report presenting new evidence, including testimony from Donald Trump's Deputy Chief of Staff, suggesting that Trump had requested 10,000 National Guard troops for January 6th to prevent clashes, challenging the narrative of the January 6th Select Committee.

  • How does the House Republicans' report contradict the January 6th Select Committee's findings?

    -The report claims to reveal suppressed or destroyed evidence, such as Trump's request for National Guard troops, which was omitted from the January 6th Select Committee's findings, suggesting a biased narrative against Trump.

  • What was the controversy surrounding Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony according to the report?

    -Cassidy Hutchinson testified that Trump tried to grab the steering wheel of the presidential vehicle, but the report cites witness testimony contradicting her claims, indicating that Trump never did such an act.

  • What concerns does Terry Schilling raise about the January 6th Select Committee?

    -Schilling criticizes the committee for having a predetermined narrative, excluding exculpatory evidence, and not being inclusive of Trump supporters, calling it a 'sham committee.'

  • How might the findings from the House Republicans' report impact the special counsel's case against Trump?

    -The discrepancies and new evidence presented by the report could undermine the special counsel's case by casting doubt on the accuracy and completeness of the information used against Trump.

  • Why does Terry Schilling suggest the committee's actions could lead to Trump's reelection?

    -Schilling believes that the perceived bias and unjust treatment of Trump by the committee and its failure to present a balanced narrative will garner sympathy and support for Trump, potentially leading to his reelection.

  • What are the implications of excluding minority (opposition) representation from the January 6th Committee according to the discussion?

    -The exclusion leads to a lack of a minority report, undermining the committee's credibility and suggesting a politically motivated investigation rather than a fair and balanced inquiry.

  • What concerns are raised about the treatment of individuals who refused to comply with the committee's subpoenas?

    -The script mentions individuals like Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon facing legal consequences for non-compliance, raising concerns about the committee's perceived political bias and the fairness of its proceedings.

  • How does the Manhattan DA's suggested delay in the hush money payments case affect Trump's campaign?

    -Terry Schilling believes that the delay, despite arising from the DA's last-minute evidence disclosure, will not affect Trump's campaign obligations or his role as the presumptive nominee.

  • What does the script suggest about the broader political impact of the January 6th committee's actions and findings?

    -The discussion implies that the committee's perceived biases and the way it handled evidence and testimony could deepen political polarization, affect electoral outcomes, and potentially lead to civil unrest.

Outlines

00:00

📜 January 6th Committee Report Controversy

The discussion revolves around the January 6th Committee's report and its alleged bias. It is suggested that the committee had a predetermined narrative, excluding exculpatory evidence such as testimony from Anthony Orado that President Trump requested 10,000 National Guard troops for January 6th. The conversation highlights the exclusion of evidence that contradicts the committee's narrative, the media's role in spreading certain narratives, and the potential impact on Special Counsel Jack Smith's case against the former president. Additionally, concerns are raised about the committee's composition and the long-term effects of such a politically charged event on American politics.

05:02

🚨 Non-Compliance with Subpoenas and Political Bias

This segment discusses the refusal of individuals like Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon to comply with subpoenas, citing political bias in the committee's makeup. It is noted that historically, minority representatives have been included in such committees to provide a balanced perspective, which was not the case here. The conversation touches on the implications of these actions, including the potential for more civil unrest and the impact on the upcoming election cycle. The speaker expresses concern that these actions could lead to the re-election of Donald Trump due to the perceived politicization of the process.

10:02

📰 Legal Battles and Campaigning Challenges

The final paragraph focuses on the legal challenges faced by the former president, including the Manhattan DA's suggestion to delay the hush money payments case related to Stormy Daniels. The potential impact of these legal battles on the former president's campaign obligations is discussed, with the guest expressing confidence that Trump will continue his campaign efforts despite the allegations and legal issues. The conversation concludes with a reflection on the broader implications of the current political climate and the potential for further polarization and unrest.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡January 6th attack

The January 6th attack refers to the violent insurrection at the U.S. Capitol building on January 6, 2021, by supporters of then-President Donald Trump in an attempt to overturn the 2020 presidential election results. In the context of the video, this event is central to the discussion of the charges against Trump and the subsequent investigations.

💡Donald Trump

Donald Trump is the 45th President of the United States, whose term ended on January 20, 2021. He is a central figure in the video, with discussions revolving around his actions and alleged involvement in the January 6th attack, as well as the charges and investigations against him.

💡National Guard

The National Guard is a reserve component of the U.S. military, which can be activated by the President or state governors to assist with domestic emergencies, disasters, or civil disturbances. In the video, it is mentioned that Trump allegedly requested 10,000 National Guard troops for January 6th, indicating concern over potential clashes at the Capitol.

💡House Republicans

House Republicans refers to the members of the Republican Party who serve in the U.S. House of Representatives. In the video, they are noted for their contrasting report to the January 6 select committee's findings, which suggests a different narrative of the events surrounding the January 6th attack.

💡Cassidy Hutchinson

Cassidy Hutchinson is a former aide in the Trump administration who testified before the January 6 committee. She is significant in the video because her testimony about Trump's alleged attempt to grab the steering wheel of his vehicle on January 6th is contradicted by other witness testimonies, which were not included in the committee's report.

💡Exculpatory evidence

Exculpatory evidence refers to information or evidence that tends to show that a person accused of a crime is not guilty or is less culpable than alleged. In the video, it is suggested that the January 6 committee withheld exculpatory evidence that could have potentially exonerated or lessened the blame on Trump regarding the January 6th attack.

💡Sham committee

A sham committee is a term used to describe a committee or investigation that is perceived as being conducted with a predetermined outcome or narrative, rather than an impartial search for truth. In the video, the January 6 select committee is referred to as a 'sham committee' by the interviewee, who believes it was biased against Trump and did not fairly consider all evidence.

💡Nancy Pelosi

Nancy Pelosi is a Democratic politician who served as the Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives during the period covered in the video. She played a significant role in the formation of the January 6 select committee and is mentioned in the video in relation to her control over the committee's composition and the exclusion of Republicans who might have been supportive of Trump.

💡Special Counsel

A Special Counsel is a lawyer appointed to conduct independent investigations into matters of significant public interest, often when there is a potential conflict of interest for the Department of Justice. In the video, Special Counsel Jack Smith is mentioned in relation to his ongoing case against the former president, and the potential impact of the January 6 committee's findings and the House Republicans' report on his investigation.

💡Re-election

Re-election refers to the process by which an incumbent politician runs for and potentially wins another term in office. In the video, the discussion of Trump's potential re-election is tied to the political fallout from the January 6th attack and the subsequent investigations, with the interviewee suggesting that the attacks on Trump could backfire and lead to his re-election.

💡Trump's legal battles

Trump's legal battles refer to the numerous lawsuits and investigations that former President Donald Trump is facing, including those related to the January 6th attack, financial matters, and alleged obstruction of justice. The video discusses these legal challenges in the context of Trump's political activities and his potential re-election campaign.

Highlights

Former President Donald Trump faces charges related to the January 6th attack on the Capitol.

A new report from House Republicans presents a different narrative of the January 6th events compared to the House January 6 select committee's findings.

Deputy Chief of Staff Anthony Orado W. testified that Trump and Mark Meadows requested 10,000 National Guard troops for January 6, which was withheld from the January 6 committee.

The January 6 committee is accused of having a predetermined narrative and excluding exculpatory evidence.

Barry Lauder's report indicates that multiple pieces of evidence were suppressed, destroyed, or excluded from the January 6 select committee's report.

Media stories claimed Trump never requested the National Guard, which was contradicted by the 10,000 National Guard story.

Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony about Trump trying to grab the wheel of the Beast was contradicted by the driver's testimony, which was withheld.

The January 6 committee has been criticized as a sham committee with a predetermined narrative, pushing lies and withholding contradictory evidence.

The committee's composition, with no minority representation and members like Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger, has been questioned for its political bias.

The lack of a Minority Report in the January 6 committee's findings is highlighted as unusual and problematic.

People are going to prison over the January 6 events, which is concerning given the perceived bias of the committee.

The political divide and polarization in America is emphasized, with the Supreme Court's decision on Trump's ballot access being noted.

The Manhattan DA has suggested a 30-day delay to the hush money payments case against Trump, which is connected to alleged falsification of business records.

Trump's legal battles, including the hush money payments case, are discussed in relation to his campaign obligations.

The impact of the January 6th events and the subsequent investigations on the 2024 election and Trump's potential re-election are debated.

The interviewee suggests that the allegations against Trump are part of a larger effort to disrupt his influence and protect the status quo.

The role of the media and the perception of the American public in relation to the January 6th events and the political response are discussed.

The interview concludes with a reflection on the state of American politics and the potential long-term effects of the January 6th investigations.

Transcripts

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00:05

former president Donald Trump is facing

00:07

charges here in Washington DC related to

00:10

the January 6th attack on the capital

00:13

but a new report from House Republicans

00:15

paints a different picture of that day

00:17

compared to the findings of the house

00:19

January 6 select committee joining us

00:22

now is Terry Schilling president of the

00:23

American principles project welcome

00:26

Terry thanks so much for having me Terry

00:29

can you help us break down that report a

00:30

little bit what's in it and why is this

00:33

important well the big thing that's

00:35

coming out here is uh it it is

00:38

apparently clear that Donald Trump's

00:40

Deputy Chief of Staff uh Anthony orado

00:44

uh W gave witness and testimony that

00:46

Donald Trump and Mark mennow had

00:48

requested uh 10,000 National Guard

00:51

troops uh for January 6 they were

00:53

concerned about a clash between the prot

00:57

Trump uh protesters and the anti-trump

01:00

protesters and they were they were

01:01

wanting more security all of that was

01:03

withheld from the January 6 committee

01:06

UHC and it was basically exculpatory

01:09

evidence uh which it really paints a

01:11

picture that this whole thing this whole

01:13

January 6 committee had a predetermined

01:15

narrative that they wanted to uphold and

01:17

they got rid of anything uh that uh

01:20

contrast or contradicted what they were

01:22

trying to find here yeah there were

01:24

report from uh Barry lauder's office

01:26

points out that there are multiple

01:28

pieces of evidence that were either

01:29

suppressed or destroyed or excluded from

01:32

the January 6 select committee's report

01:35

and I think that 10,000 National Guard

01:37

story is important because about a month

01:39

ago when we had all of these media

01:41

stories going around they were claiming

01:43

that Trump never requested the National

01:45

Guard and that that was a fake narrative

01:47

and it turns out that that wasn't true

01:49

now another important allegation here is

01:50

that one of the January 6 committee star

01:52

Witnesses Cassidy Hutchinson testified

01:55

in front of this big media circus about

01:58

how Trump had tried to grab the wheel of

02:00

the Beast to redirect his Secret Service

02:02

agents to the capital on that day what

02:05

did the louder milk report from House

02:07

Republicans find out about her

02:10

claims well Amber had found that the

02:13

driver uh that she implicated in that

02:16

story had actually given witness

02:18

testimony that uh to the contrary that

02:21

Donald Trump never did any of that he

02:23

directly contradicted her claims and

02:26

that was withheld but Cassie

02:27

Hutchinson's testimony was included in

02:29

the report Amber I think that the real

02:32

thing that bothers me about this is that

02:34

this was a sham committee right it was

02:37

it had a predetermined uh narrative from

02:38

the beginning they got rid of anyone

02:40

that was actually supportive of Donald

02:42

Trump that's not how how you operate if

02:43

you want to build a consensus if you

02:45

want to build a consensus which is

02:47

something you need in order to try and

02:49

convict and prove to the American people

02:51

that the former president is guilty of

02:54

insurrection uh then you need consensus

02:56

this is a bare minimum and instead what

02:59

we got was a propaganda committee uh

03:01

that was pushing lies and withholding

03:03

evidence that contradicted their

03:04

predetermined narrative so this is this

03:06

is a a blight on on America it's a BL on

03:08

Congress and and everything that's going

03:10

on here I mean the driver also commented

03:13

you know to keep it 100 here the driver

03:14

also commented that the former president

03:16

clearly wanted to go to the capital um

03:20

reports like this and the findings do

03:21

you think they will have any effect on

03:23

special Council Jack Smith's case

03:24

against the former president since there

03:26

are as you you noted a few discrepancies

03:28

here I think one of the most strong ones

03:30

um is probably the Cassidy Hutchinson

03:33

extra story tale that literally went

03:35

around through you know a game of

03:36

telephone one two three she was a third

03:37

person who heard it who really knows

03:39

where the facts lie there um do you

03:41

think that any of this is going to

03:43

affect the special council's

03:45

case uh it's hard to say but it

03:47

definitely doesn't help the special

03:49

council's case this only hurts it and it

03:51

show it's going to make uh the jury and

03:54

and the people making the decision about

03:56

uh where to come down with Trump on this

03:58

it's going to make them a lot more

03:59

skeptical the claims against him you if

04:01

you want to do this right if you really

04:02

want to get president Trump um on this

04:05

stuff you have to go above and beyond to

04:07

be accurate this is a former president

04:09

United States who's being accused of

04:11

very serious crimes and essentially

04:13

treason um and it turns out that the mor

04:16

treeson sacks are the people that are

04:18

putting together the Sham committee and

04:19

trying to falsely convict a a former

04:22

sitting president I think it's

04:23

interesting too that the committee

04:25

apparently waited until months after

04:27

Cassidy Hutchinson gave that public

04:28

testimony to even interview any of the

04:31

potentially corroborating Witnesses

04:32

including the driver there were two

04:34

other apparently firsthand Witnesses who

04:36

they didn't even bother to talk to in

04:38

regards to that claim um you talked

04:41

about this as a sham committee and I

04:43

think it's important for viewers to

04:44

understand that the reason why you

04:45

saying that is because Nancy Pelosi of

04:47

course had control over which

04:49

Republicans were allowed to sit on the

04:51

committee Republicans were not allowed

04:53

to pick their own people to be on there

04:54

so the only Republicans who were on it

04:56

were Liz Cheney and Adam kininger who

04:58

had already made their minds up that

05:00

Trump had committed Insurrection or

05:01

engaged in an Insurrection now we see

05:04

that there are multiple people who

05:05

refuse to comply with subpoenas

05:07

including Peter Navaro and Steve Bannon

05:09

Peter Navaro is now reporting to prison

05:12

because he said he was not going to

05:14

testify in front of the committee

05:16

because of the fact that the makeup was

05:17

so politically

05:19

biased no that that's exactly right and

05:22

you know there's a few interesting

05:24

things here which is first and foremost

05:25

this is incredibly rare I don't think

05:27

this has actually been done in American

05:29

history where uh there are no uh

05:31

minority Representatives or from the

05:34

opposition included on the committee

05:35

there's typically when they have these

05:37

types of committees to really dig deep

05:39

they produce a Minority Report so they

05:41

have a majority report that the majority

05:42

of the committee agrees to and it's

05:44

usually partisan and then they release a

05:45

Minority Report well this this this

05:48

isn't able to happen now and Republicans

05:50

have to go outside of the system outside

05:52

of the community to produce their own

05:53

findings um but the the the real

05:55

important reason why this is important

05:57

is because people are going to prison

05:59

people are going to prison over a sham

06:02

committee that was never open and and

06:04

it's also interesting that Nancy Pelosi

06:06

is all of a sudden allied with the

06:08

chenies who would have predicted

06:11

that what do you think will this that

06:14

the effect will be long term um

06:16

obviously this is a highly U politicized

06:19

event all of us saw what happened on

06:20

January 6 we've we've heard from the

06:22

officers themselves we've heard from

06:24

those who were barricaded within their

06:26

within their Senate offices and other

06:27

Chambers um what do you think is going

06:30

to be the aftermath you know we're still

06:32

having this conversation now we're years

06:33

out of January 6 obviously in the midst

06:35

of an election cycle uh what is your

06:37

take well unfortunately for Democrats

06:40

and unfortunately for America I think

06:42

it's going to end up leading to the

06:44

reelection of Donald Trump right I think

06:46

that the real problem here is that

06:48

Democrats are following the same

06:50

hysterical Playbook that they tried to

06:52

follow in 2016 where they're trying to

06:54

cast Donald Trump as this Nazi ass

06:56

figure this hitlerian uh American figure

06:59

and the American people see through it

07:01

the American people are not stupid they

07:03

understand BS and they can sort through

07:05

it now you can fool some of the people

07:06

some of the time but you can't fool all

07:08

the people all the time and so I think

07:10

that you know this next election really

07:11

is going to determine the future and

07:13

what this you know what happens from

07:15

here I think Donald Trump will get

07:17

reelected because of all of the

07:19

fraudulent claims that are being made

07:20

against him but if he isn't if he isn't

07:23

reelected then I'm even more worried

07:24

because you're going to see a lot more

07:25

of these sham committees and a lot more

07:27

innocent people uh being thrown into

07:29

jail

07:30

uh for purely partisan uh reasons

07:32

through their weaponized federal

07:33

government Trump has 91 felony charges

07:36

across four different jurisdictions um

07:39

he is in court case after court case

07:41

meanwhile trying to fund raise and

07:42

campaign at the same time turning to

07:44

another one of those legal battles let's

07:46

talk about New York for a bit um The

07:48

Manhattan DA has now suggested a 30-day

07:51

delay to the hush money payments case

07:52

against the former president remember

07:54

that was the case that alleged Trump's

07:56

team falsify business records connected

07:58

to hush money payment made to adult film

08:01

actress stormmy Daniels that trial is

08:03

scheduled to get underway later this

08:04

month on March 25th but the da suggested

08:07

he delay after the former president

08:10

legal team complained that evidence had

08:12

been withheld until the last minute

08:14

Terry will this change affect the former

08:16

president's campaign obligations as the

08:18

presumptive

08:20

nominee no I don't think so I think he's

08:22

going to carry on and I think that's

08:24

exactly the right thing I think listen

08:26

if Donald Trump was not a threat to the

08:28

swamp if he wasn't disruptive to the

08:30

system they wouldn't be making up all

08:32

these allegations I I think you know

08:34

it's important to note that allegations

08:36

are one thing and and and these are all

08:38

Democrats right when you when you start

08:40

to get Republicans pressing charges

08:42

against him and and trying to take him

08:44

to court and convict him well then we'll

08:45

have something else but right now this

08:47

is just and I think the American people

08:50

are seeing through this this is what

08:51

happens when you try to disrupt the

08:53

swamp there's a very powerful system in

08:55

place all the billionaires all the major

08:57

corporations Hollywood Academia

09:00

everyone's lined up on the Progressive

09:01

side of this um and you have to ask

09:03

yourself like what is going on here that

09:05

the billionaires in the rich class are

09:07

are now teaming up with Democrats

09:09

there's something arai here and and it

09:10

stinks well one quick final question for

09:13

you Terry we're almost out of time but

09:15

going back to this January 6 question um

09:18

I think it's also important to point out

09:19

that this exculpatory evidence is really

09:22

key to the fact that Donald Trump was

09:24

just Democrats just tried to remove him

09:27

from ballots in places like col in Maine

09:30

thankfully the Supreme Court said they

09:31

couldn't do that but they tried to

09:33

remove him from these ballots by

09:35

claiming that he had incited this

09:36

Insurrection it turns out now they

09:38

didn't even have all the evidence

09:40

available to make a proper determination

09:42

there thank goodness that the Supreme

09:45

Court came down on the right side of

09:46

this right I mean we haven't seen

09:47

Democrats try to kick a republican off

09:50

of the ballot for president since the

09:51

1860s right I think this really speaks

09:53

to how divided and fractured and

09:55

polarized America is right now um but

09:58

thank goodness that the Supreme Court

10:00

was a voice of calm and reason in this

10:02

situation otherwise we'd have quite the

10:04

civil unrest on our hands right now

10:06

Terry Schilling from American principal

10:07

project thanks again for joining

10:09

Rising thanks so much for having me

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