Thoughts on the Humane AI Pin

it's magnetized to my shirt and uh you

know how the back of a pin is usually

like a little piece of metal it's

another battery back there so this thing

is just kind of sitting on my chest with

a whole bunch of weight and battery and

heat and uh it it does what it says it's

supposed to do but I guess does

it here's my here's my um my number one

overarching thought when using

it yo what is good people the internet

welcome back to another episode of the

waveform podcast we're your hosts I'm

Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm yo it's David

yo I wasn't expecting the Y it caught me

off guard I saw you like turn your head

around you got you got to change it up

sometimes uh yeah we got a whole bunch

of stuff for this week we have uh some

thoughts on Android's new find my

network also the pin that I'm wearing is

a product it's a tech product believe it

or not we'll talk about the Humane AI

pin and we'll wrap it up with our

favorite segment

headlines in a hat also I apologize if I

stutter over words a lot more today or a

little more I'm missing several of my

teeth oh I'll leave it at that oh um

just leave it there yeah I'll just leave

it there cool that's it use your

imagination dear listener to know what

happened yeah video listeners have

figured it out already audio listeners

are picturing various things right now

one of them could be correct wait why

did the video listeners well because

they can see which teeth I'm missing can

they or not missing they're way in the

back of your jaw well now they

know but like spiler if you just heard

that I was missing several teeth and

didn't see me you could it could be any

of the teeth I feel like you did have an

interesting enough experience that it is

worth the story fair fair enough uh yeah

I got I got my wisdom teeth taken out on

Friday it's been a couple of days and

I'm you know I'm figuring out how to

talk again but also um that was the same

day that we had an earthquake in New

Jersey in it was exactly the same hour

that we had an earthquake and apparently

the like popped his head out into the

waiting room and was like hey did you

guys feel that and then went back to

taking the rest of my teeth out so I'm

fine now but like who knows what was

going on uh during those those minutes

nice either way we got to talk about

I'll save the PIN for later we got to

talk about Android's oh wait the solar

eclips we we were just on a video shoot

okay we've all seen the solar eclips in

totality yeah you guys wow we've all

seen it I saw it in 2017 standing right

next to you you hasn't seen have you

ever seen yeah yeah I saw the last one

in 2017 Okay so we've all seen we've all

seen a total toal I was on the plane

with you this morning coming home we've

all seen it he's missing teeth give him

time it's yeah I'm still processing

things no it was it was awesome we went

and and I promise you it was a

coincidence but we went and shot a video

on something in the middle of

Ohio uh this past week and booked it

before I knew that there was an eclipse

at the the same time and then the

eclipse news started bubbling up and

everyone's going this is big this is the

coolest one ever this is the one that's

going right through the heart of the US

and like I was like oh this is so sick I

kind of want to see it and so I looked

it up on the calendar and I saw that we

were already shooting something and I

was like dang we're already shooting

something wait wait a second we're

already shooting something we're already

shooting something and I looked up and

we were shooting in the path of the

totality like right in the smack in the

middle of it and it was absolutely worth

it it was the coolest thing I've ever

seen yeah for people that have not seen

a total solar eclipse I feel like the

way that the media the media portrayed

it was like there was all this hype

built up around it right because a lot

of the US media is like oh

to and the difference between a 90%

solar eclipse and a 100% solar eclipse

is 10 billion per the difference between

99 and 100 is drastic it's so big so

like everyone in New York that I knew

I'm the only one that left New York for

I went to Ohio as well I was probably

like an hour from you guys probably yeah

but uh everyone that I knew that New

York was getting so excited for it and

then the actual thing happened and every

single person messaged me and was like

well that was underwhelming and I was

like bro you don't understand how sick

it is when you actually get the total

solar eclipse I think I have I have a

video of all of us like yelling reaction

there's definitely you're right like I

was waiting for it I was like this is

going to be cool this is going to be

cool and then it happened and we were

all like what is going on kind of feels

like you're in like a sci-fi movie but

it's actually happening and it gets cold

which is amazing yeah so my favorite

part was there was an app that I was

using I forgot the name of it it I

downloaded it before because it was some

Eclipse Tracker app and it looks at your

location tells you what to expect and

then the day of I open it and it's like

three bucks now and I was like okay fine

so it definitely got a lot of money that

day but that app gave us like a

countdown of based on your location

here's the timeline leading up to

totality of what to ECT so it was like

an hour before you can start looking at

the eclipse and start seeing it

happening and you put the glasses on and

you see the little chunk taken out of

the Sun and you're like oh that's crazy

that's super cool and we've actually had

a partial solar eclipse here before so

I've seen this before right and outside

if you're just walking around you could

just not have any idea that's happening

conceivably yeah other than people

looking around with their glasses at the

sky you get to you know half an hour

before the eclipse uh before totality

and the light starts to change a little

bit and you start to notice it's a

little bit darker just a little bit

dimmer out yeah uh there was like 25

minutes before then 15 minutes before

and you started getting to the point

where Shadows were different and the

light in the sky was different and we

were actually setting up our first shot

of the day and we had our cameras Out

and because the sun was dimmer MH it

looked like the dynamic range of the

cameras was immense because you could

see the blue of the sky behind us

yeah and uh spoiler we actually shot the

intro of this video on the other side of

the eclipse so it was still like partial

light I think it looks incredible that's

awesome the whole time Brandon our

cinematographer kept being like

everything looks like it's in log right

now it's that's kind of true yeah

there's all these really amazing things

that happened during the total eclipse

like there's uh everything kind of looks

a little bit flat but there's a

360° uh Sunset that happens that's

freaking amazing it gets colder the

animal like will all they all think it's

night time this all the app yeah they do

all their night rituals 5 minutes before

a breeze a cool breeze will drift in and

like it'll really start getting darker

and then one minute before when it's

really dark you're like okay this is

this is very different from the partial

eclipse yeah it's so sick and then yeah

it hits the the part the moment that it

actually hits totality and then you're

in it for maybe 2 3 minutes of totality

like four four solid minutes we were in

the middle of the path and just staring

at it without the glass is lifechanging

yeah it was amazing it's also it's not I

kind of assumed it'd be like oh it's

like getting darker but it was like oh

it's getting darker and then it's night

time like like you can feel the moment

where it's like someone flipped the

switch here's all of us reacting to it

happening do you have the

moment

holy yeah this is no one knew I was

filming that that was just like I wish

the video the video cuz your phone like

uh adapts for the like darkness which

locket but so it all of us were just

sitting there and it's just

like and then it's like what is going on

yeah this was this is mine here we

are oh guys oh oh

yeah yeah oh so we can look at it dark

oh my gosh oh that wasn't

exciting the App G the app gave me a

countdown so it was like 10 seconds to

totality and right around 10 seconds

everything starts like accelerating the

sunset that crazy yeah I didn't actually

cture video at totality cuz I was like

hurrying to get pictures cuz I shot on

my 4x5 and I was like yeah so it was a

lot but yeah it's crazy yeah I hate to

be that person that's like you have to

experience it to understand but if you

ever in your lifetime get the chance to

go a little out of your way to

experience totality it is worth it th% I

will be doing it again and that was just

the second coolest thing we did in Ohio

bro that was the coolest thing we

did Skyline chil Skyline Chili bro close

chili beans cheese onions spaghetti you

forgot something cheese more cheese more

cheese wait one more thing cheese even

more I think you the cheese yeah that

was there too for sure yeah no I was I I

saw a clip the other day actually my two

favorite things that come out of this

one obviously everyone's pictures but

there's a meme of like the Google Trends

graph of my eyes hurt and how it spiked

over time through the path of totality

hilarious I hope everyone use their

special glasses two is appreciating like

the cosmos A little bit this doesn't

happen on any other

planet this is only an earth thing what

wait it doesn't happen with the moon any

any of the moons of the other planets

the size of our moon oh is perfect in

its in its reference in its ratio to how

far away the sun is so the sun is 400

times further away from Earth than the

moon and it's 400 times what small

bigger in the sky or what smaller

whatever the ratio is yeah it matches

perfectly here on Earth because of those

ratios and only here on Earth and I'm

alive that's crazy well and that's

finite because the moon's getting

further away from the earth so I mean

all of our life get further away we will

get more noite

it's getting fur away so it'll be

smaller we won have a total anymore

thats we always will yeah we were alive

I'm definitely going to the next one

which is in two and a half years in

Spain Andor Iceland yeah I will say as

someone that was here for the partial

eclipse if you've seen the partial and

you're like eh I kind of get it you

don't totality totality is different not

even close yeah I it's huge it's super

cool yeah so and the the thing I was we

were talking about this I want to see

like all these natural phenomena and

Iceland is lowkey a good spot to go for

Aurora Borealis MH and that only happens

when it's dark and it's dark during

tality and you can probably see where

I'm going with this yeah there's a small

chance large chance that oh you mean a

small chance it happens there's a small

chance that you go to Iceland and it

gets dark really quick and then you

instantly see the totality and aora

balis at the same time and it's not

cloudy I would die super low chance I'm

going to do it anyway bro super low

chance you're telling me there's a

chance though I'm gambling with fate I

want to see that I don't I don't know if

it gets that dark during totality

totality got dark but it has to be like

pitch black to see

our unless it's like a sun a solar flare

or something at the same time which like

that would be crazy there will be being

a solar flare there's a chance that's

the best time to see a solar flare did

you guys see the the solar things that

were coming off the Sun the corona

little beads the little beads yeah yeah

I took um I took some

pictures classic David sentence look at

the little red spots coming off the sun

yeah so Co that's I think Bill and I was

saying that's how we learned about those

is eclipse what the homie Bill you're

supposed to say the

science the Science Guy yeah yeah I

think that's how we discovered Coronas

yeah is through eclipses being able to

cuz you can't look at the sun right and

see it oh but that blocks out

Hur at the at the sun apparently also uh

a lot of other planets are visible

during the eclipse because the sun is

like shining on them but not on stuff we

saw Venus like instantly who no one told

me that where was I you didn't see it it

was announced it was announced you can

see it look back at your pictures it's

probably in your pictures yeah no it was

announced is it near the sun this is wor

near the it's near the sun dude no we

it's it's just another sparkly bit it's

not like a bright star kind of you

didn't miss m look at I bet if you look

back your pictures Venus you'll see like

a really bright one you're like what is

that I'm watching that video back and if

I don't hear any of you talk about Venus

I'm be I promise you Andrew you didn't

miss the cool part yeah you saw the cool

part yeah Skyline I was right there

Skyline baby speaking of uh things that

affect the whole world speaking of

things you have to find yeah like the

eclipse like the or Venus like Venus in

the sky um that was rough uh Android's

fine my network is here finally we just

got notifications about this when if

you're on your phone you got a

notification ideally uh all Android

phones and tablets will have find my

device or sorry find my device trackers

are coming and we'll be able to use

Android devices to find things yes but

you can also uh use yeah cuz you could

already find my Android yeah that's

already a thing but find my device

trackers like air tags for example will

use Apple's find my iPhone network and

anytime someone nearby gets close enough

to it it'll ping and update its location

similar concept with Android now yeah

yeah that's that's the thing right can I

ask a nerdy question sure so like the

Apple fine my network is enabled by the

U1 chip is that uh no it's well that is

just for the um that's just for MIM wave

precision when you're in and it like

points you in the direction inside your

house that's the only thing the UN on

chip does like when you're within range

of it yeah otherwise it's like Bluetooth

and mesh Network yeah Mesh networking

really yeah it's got to be low power the

U chip is it means Ultra wide band yeah

yeah yeah yeah but I thought that was

how it was communicating with all the

other U1 chip devices and that's what

formed the mesh network no definitely

not cuz Ultra wideband is does not go

through walls or anything the iPhone has

one built in and the air tags have one

built in so when they were like

announcing it that was the like

Precision thing but if you just want to

find another iPhone it can direct you to

like the building on the street just

like with it reg Network yeah broadly

yeah yeah so there are some um very

special stuff that they're doing with

this as well uh your device now doesn't

need to be connected to a Wi-Fi network

it can be found uh via Bluetooth just

like Apple devices but the pixel 8 and

pixel 8 Pro can even be found if the

device is dead um Google says this is

due due to specialized pixel hardware

and it wants to ex expand that Hardware

to other high-end Android devices in the

future how long till pixel 7 and less

has this this exact same G S4 ultra I

don't know I mean it sounds like it's

something that doesn't

require the separate battery from the

phone or something like that um but

that's pretty cool uh you can also now

use Nest speakers as reference points

for your trackers so like if you have

multiple different Nest devices in your

house the closer it is to whatever one

in any given room it will be like it was

in the living room which is cool smart

do you sorry I'm going to interrupt a

little bit but like At first I was like

this sounds really cool because I leave

my phone around the house all the time

and always need to look for it it's one

of my favorite things about my watch by

being able to do the like do you guys do

that ever uh I don't use an apple all

the time you can ping your phone yeah

pinging but do you use that like if I

ever I don't I don't my phone very often

but if I do wow you're so much better

everyone Marquez it's just in my pocket

all the time it's actually a problem I

probably use that feature like twice a

day nice yeah best feature ever which is

where like I like that I probably

wouldn't need it because I can just

actually no that would be nice for if

like Lan is sleeping and I don't want to

if I'm worried I left my phone in her

room and then it just goes bring bring

bring why she trying to sleep yeah the

network is great because it used to be

that you were only able to like if your

phone was on and and had cell data

that's when you could find your phone

yeah but now it's the same as the way

that Apple does it where it's like every

other Android device in the world is a

beacon a beacon so if any other Android

device walks by it it's going to like

Ping its location which is really handy

um by default there are going to be

three different options uh you can use

without network where your device just

doesn't participate in the network you

can still locate your offline devices

using their stored recent location

when they online which is basically like

if your phone dies you'll see the

location for when it died uh there is

with network in try hight trffic areas

only which is the default that everyone

will be uh opted into automatically

which is basically like you can lo

locate using recent stored locations on

the network in areas like airports or

busy footpaths and then there's with the

network in all uh all areas so not just

high traffic areas it can also be in

very low traffic areas uh it just might

use location info from your device um so

yeah it's very useful and that's going

to be awesome because I think that one

of the things that apparently keeps

people in the Apple ecosystem uh is the

ability to use these trackers for

example whenever I'm on an Android phone

I keep an iPhone in my pocket as well

literally to use as a beacon device to

find all my lost stuff because I lose

things all the time and I have air tags

on everything how many air tags are in

your account do you think I think 12 12

solid which I could use more I have like

eight and I have one in my car just so

that every morning when I leave I always

forget where I park I just the phone and

be like oh yeah it was on that street

see Android a lot of Android phones have

a feature where as soon as you start

driving and then you stop driving and

start walking it automatically goes you

probably parked here I have been waiting

for that to pop up it has not happened

in like 6 months I get it like randomly

it's kind of random it just decides to

work or not wait but if you have a an

air tag in your car then anyone who

drives with you with an iPhone do they

get the notification like someone's

following you constantly really is that

just fun to freak them out at that point

I just tell them to deal with it because

it's more valuable to me to be in there

than when someone says oh my gosh

someone's stalking me you go that's me

like yeah deal with it yeah um yeah so

that's great it it removes a little

piece of apples Walled Garden you know

what's kind of funny though that I found

interesting is the fact that the nest in

seems a little bit first partyish you

know like with Nest speakers you'll be

able to find it in the given rooms and

I'm like is that gonna roll out to all

smart speakers that aren't just Google

or is that only going to be nest because

it said Nest specifically which is

interesting I wonder if you I feel like

after the Apple lawsuit I'm just

like other people do it I'm putting the

equivalent in the Apple ecosystem where

like if you have a homod specifically

then you can use thisle would do they

would totally do that yeah any yeah they

would have done that they do have

there's plenty of Google Assistant like

licensed speakers out there right like

and other there were other smart home

devices that aren't Google do they still

have those actually or did those there

are it's just that the it's specifically

said Nest that's why I was I wonder if

it's just now cuz like it's has

something specific for it and could come

out in the future but it is weird that

it only says that yeah to see I don't

know anyway that's exciting um again

just like knocks down a little brick in

the W garden and now you can have an

Android phone and not be uh so upset

about it yeah find your stff I'm not

upset that I have an Android phone David

well I I mean I hate carrying two phones

on me when I need I need an alternative

to air tags that's all I'm saying

totally fair yeah well we should take a

quick break uh and then we got to talk

about all the headlines in the Hat and

also this pin that I've been wearing

just heating up my chest um but first we

should do trivia you know it's hotter

trivia Segways are we're killing the

Segways Today l the timing was a little

off but that was good okay first

question is a science question whoa no

way I know that's crazy I'm going to get

it how many teeth do humans have Price

is Right rules Price is Right damn right

that was Ellis's Edition I love it I

think I know I can't wait for the whole

conversation when I'm not participating

and just counting the teeth in my mouth

countd teeth before before they get

taken oh yeah yes like in your mouth at

a time when you're born adults typically

have when you're born you have no teeth

when you're born really

yeah are you sure about that yeah I'm

positive I couldn't be more sure think I

could not be

more yeah you're biting on things to

like because because your teeth are

growing so that your teeth can break

through the gums it's like when teeth

first grow in interesting I just counted

the teeth in my mouth so I'm just

writing that answer but you said before

wiom teeth get taken out I'm writing how

many teeth I have right now okay that's

is that great answer I mean that's

that's a good no that's a good thing to

do because it's price is right rul so

you should be under under counting

anyway well I had four more a week ago

so like yeah so right right now the

answer is with with the ones that you

were supposed to have cuz I still have

them okay exactly with the ones you were

supposed to have how many ah okay yeah

so if you got some taken out recently

like someone did just add those back in

count we'll have the answers at the end

uh as usual we'll be right

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