Judge Jeanine: This was Trump lawyer's 'big bang' during closing arguments

Fox News
28 May 202409:30

Summary

TLDRIn a heated courtroom exchange, Todd Blanche, a prosecutor, suggested to the jury that Donald Trump could face jail time if convicted, prompting an outraged response from Judge Merchan who deemed the comment inappropriate and promised a curative instruction to the jury. The defense team, led by Jeanine Pirro, argued that the case hinges on unproven evidence and the credibility of Michael Cohen, whom they labeled the 'Greatest Liar of All Time' (GOAT). The prosecution's closing arguments focused on undermining Cohen's testimony, emphasizing inconsistencies and the lack of corroborating evidence. The jury's decision now hangs in the balance, with the judge's instructions and the absence of key witnesses potentially influencing their verdict.

Takeaways

  • 📢 The defense team for Donald Trump is concluding their arguments, and the next steps are being discussed with Judge Jeanine Pirro.
  • 🔍 The Washington Post reported an incident where Todd Blanche suggested to the jury that Trump could go to jail if convicted, which angered Judge Merchan.
  • 👩‍⚖️ Judge Pirro was surprised by Merchan's reaction and explained that the jury should only be concerned with the facts and the law, not the potential sentence.
  • 🗣️ Todd Blanche's closing argument was described as simple, non-histrionic, and focused on the lack of evidence and the falsification of business records.
  • 👥 Blanche highlighted the absence of key witnesses like Gina Rodriguez, Dylan Howard, Alan Weisselberg, and Keith Schiller, which could be crucial for the defense.
  • 🚫 Judge Pirro emphasized the importance of an adverse witness charge due to the absence of certain key witnesses who were not called to testify.
  • 📚 Blanche's closing argument detailed inconsistencies and lies, particularly focusing on Michael Cohen's testimony, calling him the 'Greatest Liar of All Time (GOAT)'.
  • 🎯 The argument was methodical in discrediting Cohen's testimony and the circumstances surrounding his allegations, suggesting he should not have been able to testify.
  • 🤔 Judge Pirro expressed concern about the jury instructions, particularly the lack of clarity on the crime that was allegedly being concealed.
  • 👉 The jury was given three options for the crime being concealed without needing to agree on which one, which Judge Pirro found perplexing and unfair.
  • 👍 Judge Pirro noted that the jury's eagerness to continue with the trial without a break indicates their readiness and commitment to their duty.

Q & A

  • What is the context of the discussion in the transcript?

    -The discussion revolves around the closing arguments in a legal case involving Donald Trump, with a focus on the prosecution's and defense's strategies and the judge's potential instructions to the jury.

  • Who is Todd Blanche in the context of this transcript?

    -Todd Blanche is the prosecutor who delivered the closing arguments in the case mentioned in the transcript.

  • What did Todd Blanche suggest to the jury in his closing argument that caused a reaction from Merchan?

    -Todd Blanche suggested to the jury that Donald Trump could go to jail if convicted, which Merchan found highly inappropriate and a reason to issue a curative instruction to the jury.

  • What is the role of Judge Jeanine Pirro in the transcript?

    -Judge Jeanine Pirro is a cohost of 'The Five' and has been present at the courthouse. She provides commentary and insights into the proceedings based on her observations.

  • What is the significance of the missing witness instruction and adverse witness charge mentioned by Judge Jeanine Pirro?

    -The missing witness instruction and adverse witness charge are legal tools that could be used by the defense to suggest to the jury that the absence of certain witnesses speaks to the weakness of the prosecution's case.

  • What was the main focus of Todd Blanche's closing argument according to the transcript?

    -Todd Blanche's closing argument focused on the lack of proven evidence, the inconsistencies in the testimonies, and the unreliability of Michael Cohen as a witness.

  • What was the term used by Todd Blanche to describe Michael Cohen in his closing argument?

    -Todd Blanche referred to Michael Cohen as the 'GOAT', which stands for 'Greatest of All Time', in the context of being a liar.

  • What is the controversy surrounding the judge's potential charge to the jury, as discussed in the transcript?

    -The controversy is that the judge may not provide the best charge to the jury, and there is concern about the lack of clarity on what crime is being concealed or violated, which could affect the jury's decision-making process.

  • What does Judge Jeanine Pirro find 'unheard of' in the context of this case?

    -Judge Jeanine Pirro finds it 'unheard of' that the jury is in the middle of a summation without knowing what the crime is that they are trying to conceal.

  • What does the transcript suggest about the jury's readiness to proceed with their task?

    -The transcript suggests that the jury is ready and eager to proceed with their task, as indicated by their decision to continue with the summation without taking a break.

  • What is the general sentiment expressed by the participants in the transcript regarding the case against Donald Trump?

    -The general sentiment expressed is that the case against Donald Trump is not as clear-cut or compelling as it should be for a trial involving a former U.S. President, with a focus on the murkiness of the allegations and the unreliability of the main witness.

Outlines

00:00

📢 Closing Arguments and Controversy

The first paragraph discusses the closing arguments in a trial involving Donald Trump, with a focus on the prosecution's strategy and the defense's response. Jeanine Pirro, a cohost judge, reports from the courthouse and comments on the situation where Todd Blanche, the prosecutor, suggested to the jury that Trump could face jail time if convicted, which was met with strong objections from Merchan. The defense team's closing argument is described as strong, with a focus on the lack of proven evidence and the unreliability of key witness Michael Cohen, who is labeled as the 'Greatest Liar of All Time' (GOAT). The paragraph also touches on the absence of certain witnesses who could have provided adverse testimony against the prosecution.

05:01

👨‍⚖️ Judge's Reaction and Jury's Decision

The second paragraph delves into the judge's reaction to the closing arguments, with a particular focus on Judge Merchan's disapproval of Blanche's suggestion that Trump could go to jail. The conversation highlights the importance of the jury's role in deciding the case based solely on the facts and the law, rather than on the potential consequences for the defendant. The summary also includes commentary on the strength of Todd Blanche's closing argument, which methodically dismantled the prosecution's case and emphasized the lies told by Michael Cohen both in the past and during his testimony. The paragraph concludes with a discussion about the jury's determination to continue with their deliberations without taking a break, indicating their readiness to fulfill their duty.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Closing Arguments

Closing arguments are the final statements made by both the prosecution and defense in a trial, summarizing their cases and making a final appeal to the jury. In the script, Todd Blanche is mentioned as making a closing argument, suggesting that if Trump is convicted, he could go to jail, which is a significant and controversial point in the trial's narrative.

💡Prosecution

The prosecution refers to the legal team that represents the side in a criminal case that is trying to prove the defendant's guilt. In this script, the prosecution's actions and statements are a central focus, particularly in relation to their closing arguments and the potential implications for the defendant, Donald Trump.

💡Defense Team

The defense team is the group of lawyers who represent the defendant in a legal case, aiming to prove their innocence or to mitigate the charges against them. The script discusses Donald Trump's defense team making their final pitch, indicating a critical stage in the trial where they present their last arguments to the jury.

💡Jury

A jury is a group of people sworn to render a verdict in a trial, based on the evidence presented. The script emphasizes the jury's role in deciding the outcome of the case, noting how the closing arguments from both sides are directed at influencing their decision.

💡Curative Instruction

A curative instruction is a direction given by a judge to the jury to disregard certain statements or evidence that should not have been presented during the trial. In the script, it is mentioned that Judge Merchan will issue a curative instruction after an inappropriate suggestion was made by Todd Blanche regarding the potential jail sentence for Trump.

💡Falsification of Business Records

Falsification of business records refers to the act of knowingly making false entries in the books, records, or accounts of a business. The script discusses this concept as a central element of the case, with the defense arguing that the evidence presented does not prove this wrongdoing.

💡Extortion

Extortion is the criminal act of obtaining money, property, or services from an individual or institution, typically through coercion. The script mentions extortion in the context of certain witnesses allegedly trying to extort money, which is a key point in the defense's argument.

💡Reasonable Doubt

Reasonable doubt is a standard in criminal trials where the jury must be convinced of the defendant's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt to return a guilty verdict. The script quotes Todd Blanche referring to Michael Cohen as the 'human embodiment of reasonable doubt,' highlighting the defense's strategy to create doubt in the minds of the jurors.

💡Perjury

Perjury is the act of lying or making false statements under oath in a court proceeding. The script discusses Michael Cohen's testimony, suggesting that he lied under oath, which is a crucial point for the defense to discredit his testimony and create reasonable doubt.

💡Missing Witness Instructions

Missing witness instructions refer to the guidance given by the judge to the jury regarding the implications of a party not calling certain witnesses who may have had relevant information. In the script, Jeanine Pirro expresses concern about the lack of these instructions, indicating that the absence of key witnesses like Alan Weisselberg could be used to argue against the prosecution's case.

💡Adverse Witness Charge

An adverse witness charge is a direction from the judge to the jury that they may draw negative inferences from a party's decision not to call a witness who would have provided unfavorable evidence. The script suggests that the defense would like such a charge to be given in relation to the non-appearance of certain witnesses who could have testified against the prosecution's case.

Highlights

Donald Trump's defense team concluding their final pitch.

Jeanine Pirro reports from the courthouse on the closing arguments.

Todd Blanche suggests to the jury that Trump could face jail time if convicted.

Judge Merchan reacts strongly to Blanche's suggestion, calling it inappropriate.

Pirro explains the jury's role is to decide facts, with the judge providing the law.

Blanche's closing argument is described as simple, not histrionic, and addressing all points.

Blanche emphasizes the lack of proven evidence and what the jury did not hear.

Discussion on the role of falsification of business records in the case.

Blanche details the inconsistencies with the witnesses and the lack of catch and kill agreements.

Stormy Daniels' story was already public, undermining the case's premise.

Blanche argues that certain key witnesses were not called, impacting the case's strength.

The significance of Alan Weisselberg and Keith Schiller not testifying is highlighted.

Blanche labels Michael Cohen as the 'Greatest Liar of All Time' (GOAT).

Cohen's credibility and his testimony under oath are questioned.

The prosecution's case has many holes, according to Blanche's summation.

Pirro expresses concern over the judge's instructions to the jury.

The jury is not required to agree on which crime was being concealed.

Pirro finds it unfair that the jury does not know the felony in question.

Judge Merchan's potential bias in giving jury instructions is discussed.

The jury's readiness to continue without a break indicates their engagement.

The necessity for a crystal-clear case when taking a former U.S. President to trial.

Transcripts

00:05

>> John: DONALD TRUMP'S

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DEFENSE TEAM MAKING THEIR FINAL

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PITCH TODAY.

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SO WHAT COMES NEXT?

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THE FIVE COHOST JUDGE

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JEANINE PIRRO HAS BEEN AT THE

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COURTHOUSE ALL DAY.

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SHE JOINS US NOW.

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JUDGE, BEFORE WE GET INTO WHAT

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THE PROSECUTION MAY OR MAY NOT

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DO IN TERMS OF ITS CLOSING

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ARGUMENTS, "WASHINGTON POST" IS

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CARRYING SOMETHING INTERESTING

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THAT I GUESS HAPPENED AS COURT

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WAS CLOSING.

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SOMEWHERE IN HIS CLOSING

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ARGUMENT, TODD BLANCHE SUGGESTED

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TO THE JURY THAT TRUMP COULD GO

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TO JAIL IF CONVICTED.

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APPARENTLY MERCHAN BLEW UP AT

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HIM SAYING THAT WAS OUTRAGEOUS

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MR. BLANCHE.

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SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN A

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PROSECUTOR AS LONG AS YOU HAVE,

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SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN AN ATTORNEY

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AS LONG AS YOU HAVE KNOWS THAT

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IS HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE AND HE

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WILL ISSUE A CURATIVE

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INSTRUCTION TO THE JURY.

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DID YOU HEAR THAT JUDGE?

00:51

>> I DIDN'T HEAR IT TO BE HONEST

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WITH YOU.

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I'M STUNNED SITTING HERE AND I

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WAS IN THERE.

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BUT THAT'S VERY SIMPLE.

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YOU GIVE A CHARGE TO THE JURY

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AND YOU SAY WOULD EITHER THIS

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SENTENCE MAY BE OR WHATEVER MY

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OPTIONS MAY BE ARE NOT YOUR

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CONCERN AS I HAVE TOLD YOU FROM

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THE BEGINNING.

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YOU'VE DECIDED WHAT THE FACTS

01:08

ARE.

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I GIVE YOU THE LAW AND YOU MAKE

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A DECISION BASED ON THE FACTS

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AND THE LAW.

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SO THERE IS NO NEED THE GUY IS

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VERY THIN-SKINNED, THIS MERCHAN

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I KNOW WE DID HAVE A BREAKDOWN

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OVER IT BUT HERE'S WHAT I

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THOUGHT WAS SO INCREDIBLY STRONG

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THIS MORNING.

01:25

TODD BLANCHE SPOKE IN VERY

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SIMPLE LANGUAGE AND ADDRESSED

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EVERYTHING HE POSSIBLY COULD IN

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HIS SUMMATION TO THE JURY.

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IT WAS SIMPLE, IT WAS NOT

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HISTRIONIC, IT WAS NOT OVER THE

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TOP.

01:39

SOME PEOPLE IF YOU HAVE A CHILD

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ABUSE CASE OR AN OUTRAGEOUS CASE

01:44

OF FIRE AND BRIMSTONE, THIS IS A

01:46

CASE THAT IS VERY DEPENDENT ON

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HOW THE JURY SEES THE ROLE OF

01:52

THE FALSIFICATION OF BUSINESS

01:53

RECORDS.

01:53

AND TODD BLANCHE STARTED BY

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SAYING LOOK.

01:55

THIS CASE IS ABOUT EVIDENCE THAT

02:00

WAS NOT PROVEN.

02:01

THIS CASE IS ABOUT WHAT YOU DID

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NOT HEAR.

02:05

HE THEN WENT ON TO DESCRIBE

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VIRTUALLY EVERY WITNESS AND HE

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MADE A GREAT DEAL OF EFFORT

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TRYING TO SHOW HOW ALL OF THE

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CATCH AND KILLS WERE NOT

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CATCHING KILLS.

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THEY WERE SIMPLY WITH

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McDOUGALL IT WAS A QUESTION

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SHE WANTED TO BE ON THE COVER OF

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BANK'S EIGHTH GRADE SHE DID NOT

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WANT ANYTHING KILLED.

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SHE WANTED TO WRITE HER OWN

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ARTICLE.

02:33

AND IN THE END, STORMY DANIELS

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STORY HAD ALREADY BEEN OUT IN

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2011.

02:38

IT WAS VERY PRECISE AND HE MADE

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IT CLEAR THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE

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WHO WERE EXTORTING MONEY AND

02:50

CERTAIN WITNESSES GOT TOGETHER.

02:51

WITNESSES WHO WERE NOT CALLED AT

02:54

THIS TRIAL.

02:55

GINA RODRIGUEZ ON BEHALF OF

02:57

STORMY DANIELS.

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DYLAN HOWARD ON BEHALF OF

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AMERICAN MEDIA.

03:01

AND OF COURSE THE ISSUE OF ALAN

03:05

WEISSELBERG.

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THE ISSUE OF KEITH SCHILLER.

03:08

ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ARE

03:09

ESSENTIAL WITNESSES AS FAR AS

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I'M CONCERNED AND IF I WAS THE

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DEFENSE IN THIS CASE AND I DON'T

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KNOW WHAT THE JUDGE'S CHARGES,

03:16

BUT YOU HAVE TO GET AN ADVERSE

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WITNESS CHARGE, THE FACT THAT

03:21

ALAN WEISSELBERG WAS NOT CALLED

03:22

AS A WITNESS AND WAS CERTAINLY

03:26

RELEVANT.

03:26

EVERYTHING POINTED TO ALAN

03:28

WEISSELBERG BEING INVOLVED IN

03:29

THAT PART OF THE TRUMP

03:31

ORGANIZATION THAT WAS INVOLVED

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IN THE BOOK KEEPING, DATA IS

03:34

SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE USED

03:36

AGAINST THE PROSECUTION BECAUSE

03:37

NUMBER ONE HE WAS WITHIN THEIR

03:39

CONTROL AND NUMBER TWO HE HAD

03:40

RELEVANT AND MATERIAL EVIDENCE.

03:44

AND THE FACT THAT CASE-SHILLER

03:46

WAS NOT CALLED WHEN CASE-SHILLER

03:48

WOULD CLEARLY SAY THAT THE

03:52

CONVERSATION WAS ABOUT A

03:55

14-YEAR-OLD HARASSING

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MICHAEL COHEN AND NOT ABOUT

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HIS PHONE CALL WITH  

04:01

DONALD TRUMP.

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ALL OF THE EVIDENCE WAS VERY

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CLEARLY OUTLINED FOR THE JURY

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AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU HE HAD

04:05

GREAT LINES.

04:06

THAT MICHAEL COHEN IS MVP OF

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LIARS.

04:12

YOU'VE HEARD OF THE GOAT, THE

04:14

GLOAT.

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THE GREATEST LIAR OF ALL TIME.

04:17

>> Sandra: THAT IS SUCH A

04:19

CROWD FAVORITE.

04:20

WE PULLED THAT QUOTE.

04:21

WE PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN.

04:22

THIS WAS TODD BLANCHE IN THE

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CLOSING ARGUMENT RIGHT NEAR THE

04:24

END.

04:25

HE IS THE HUMAN EMBODIMENT OF

04:27

REASONABLE DOUBT.

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HE LIED TO YOU REPEATEDLY.

04:29

HE TOLD THE JURY.

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HE IS BIASED AND MOTIVATED,

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MICHAEL COHEN IS THE GOAT, HE IS

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THE GREATEST LIAR OF ALL TIME.

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YOU CANNOT SEND SOMEONE TO

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PRESENT BASED ON THE WORDS OF

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MICHAEL COHEN.

04:43

IT SEEMS THIS WAS THE BIG BANG

04:44

AT THE END OF HIS CLOSING

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ARGUMENTS.

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>> IT WAS THE BIG BANG AND THE

04:52

WHOLE SUMMATION WAS HOW

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MICHAEL COHEN WAS LYING, HOW

04:55

WHAT HE SAID MADE NO SENSE, HOW

04:58

THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING

05:00

MICHAEL COHEN'S ALLEGATIONS WERE

05:02

KNOCKED DOWN OVER AND OVER AGAIN

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AND ALL THOSE LITTLE FACTS THAT

05:05

DON'T MAKE THEY HAD LINES AND

05:06

TERMS OF WHAT WE DO BUT WILL

05:08

MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE WHEN THE

05:10

JURY GOES IN AND RECOGNIZES THAT

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WE CAN'T DECIDE THIS BASED ON

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MICHAEL COHEN BECAUSE WE HAVE

05:17

THIS EVIDENCE THAT CONTRADICTS

05:19

MICHAEL COHEN.

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IT WAS REALLY AN EXCELLENT

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SUMMATION AND IT WAS DONE IN A

05:26

MODULATED TOWNS AND I THINK HE

05:27

WAS VERY CLEAR ON WHERE HE WAS

05:29

HEADED.

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>> John: THAT VERY LAST THING

05:33

THAT SANDRA JUST ALLUDED TO THAT

05:36

HE HAS THE GLOAT, THE GREATEST

05:37

LIAR OF ALL TIME, YOU CANNOT

05:39

SEND SOMEONE TO PRESENT BASED ON

05:41

THE WORDS OF MICHAEL COHEN.

05:43

THAT IS PROBABLY WHAT

05:44

JUDGE MERCHAN TOOK EXCEPTION TO.

05:47

I THINK THE JUDGE THOUGHT THAT

05:49

BLANCHE SHOULD'VE SAID YOU

05:49

CANNOT FIND SOMEONE GUILTY BASED

05:52

ON THE WORDS OF MICHAEL COHEN.

05:54

MERCHAN IS TICKED OFF AND HE

05:56

THINKS THAT BLANCHE WAS TRYING

05:58

TO ENGENDER SYMPATHY FOR HIS

05:59

CLIENT BY SUGGESTING THAT THE

06:00

JURY COULD FOR THE VERY FIRST

06:02

TIME IN HISTORY SEND A U.S.

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PRESIDENT TO JAIL.

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WHAT DO YOU THINK JUDGE?

06:08

>> I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH THAT.

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I THINK THAT THE IDEA THAT THE

06:13

CENTERPIECE, HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN

06:15

THE CENTERPIECE OF THIS

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CONVICTION.

06:18

HE HAS SO MANY HOLES RIGHT NOW

06:19

AND THERE ARE MORE HOLES AS A

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RESULT OF THE SUMMATION BECAUSE

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HE WAS VERY METHODICAL, TODD

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BLANCHE IN TERMS OF TALKING TO

06:25

THE JURY.

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THIS WAS A LIE, THAT WAS A LIE,

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YOU CAN'T BELIEVE THIS, YOU

06:29

CAN'T BELIEVE THAT.

06:31

IT'S ALMOST AS THOUGH HE

06:32

SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO

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TESTIFY IN THE FIRST PLACE AND

06:34

WHAT I THOUGHT WAS BRILLIANT WAS

06:37

HE SAID YOU KNOW HE LIED ABOUT

06:39

ALL OF THIS BUT HE GOT ON THE

06:41

STAND AND LIED TO YOU AGAIN.

06:43

IT'S NOT JUST WHAT HE HAS DONE

06:44

IN THE PAST, IT'S WHAT HE DID IN

06:46

THIS COURTROOM AFTER HE SWORE TO

06:47

TELL THE TRUTH.

06:48

HE TOOK AN OATH, HE LOOKED AT

06:51

YOU, HE SAID WE RECOGNIZE THAT

06:54

HE'S UNDER OATH AND UNDER

06:55

PENALTY OF PERJURY AND HE STILL

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LIED TO YOU BASED ON THE

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EVIDENCE, THE FACTS, AND THE

07:01

CIRCUMSTANCES.

07:02

THEY CANNOT CONVICT BASED UPON

07:03

HIM.

07:04

THEY CANNOT.

07:05

>> Sandra: AT THE END OF ALL

07:07

OF THIS, ALL THAT MATTERS ARE

07:10

THE JURORS.

07:12

AND WE JUST HAVE TO WONDER WHAT

07:14

HAPPENS IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS

07:15

AND THEN ON IT IN TOMORROW WITH

07:16

WHAT THE INSTRUCTIONS ARE.

07:17

GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS.

07:21

>> I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE

07:23

INSTRUCTIONS.

07:24

I WANT THOSE MISSING WITNESS

07:25

INSTRUCTIONS AND ADVERSE WITNESS

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CHARGE.

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I'M CURIOUS.

07:29

THEY GAVE US THREE OPTIONS FOR

07:31

THE CRIME HE WERE TRYING TO

07:34

CONCEAL AND THE JURY DOESN'T

07:35

HAVE TO IDENTIFY OR AGREE ON

07:38

WHICH ONE.

07:38

THIS IS THE SICKEST THING I'VE

07:39

EVER HEARD OF.

07:40

HOW CAN WE BE AND THE MIDDLE OF

07:42

A SUMMATION AND NOT KNOW WHAT

07:44

THE CRIME IS THAT THEY ARE

07:44

TRYING TO CONCEAL?

07:46

WHAT CRIME THEY VIOLATED

07:48

QUESTION WRECK WHAT IS THE

07:49

FELONY THAT RESURRECTED THESE

07:51

DEAD MISDEMEANORS?

07:52

IT IS UNHEARD OF.

07:52

I TELL YOU THAT'S NOT JUST AS A

07:55

PROSECUTOR BUT AS A JUDGE.

07:55

THIS IS UNFAIR.

07:58

YOU HAVE TO ASSUME THAT MERCHAN

08:00

IS NOT GOING TO GIVE THE BEST

08:01

CHARGE TO THE JURY IN THE CASE

08:04

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE

08:05

PRACTICAL METHODICAL BEAT DOWN

08:08

OF ALL THE FACTS BY TODD BLANCHE

08:09

MAY BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM

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TO SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS

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GUY'S A PIECE OF GARBAGE.

08:15

WE CAN'T SEND SOMEONE TO PRISON

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IF THAT'S WHAT THEY THINK THE

08:17

OPTION IS OR A FORMER PRESIDENT

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NO LESS.

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AND YOU KNOW WHAT I LIKE?

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THE JUDGE THAT YOU CAN COME BACK

08:28

TODAY FOR THE PEOPLE SUMMATION

08:30

BUT WE WILL TAKE IT INTO

08:31

TOMORROW IF IT IS PASSED FOR 30.

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AND THE JURY CAME BACK AND SAID

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NO.

08:35

WE WANT TO GO RIGHT THROUGH WITH

08:37

THIS ONE.

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THAT TELLS ME THEY ARE READY AND

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THEY ARE NOT INTO THIS LET'S

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TAKE A WEEK OFF.

08:42

I THINK THEY ARE READY TO DO

08:44

THEIR JOB AND I HAVE A GOOD

08:45

FEELING FROM THAT.

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>> John: AS CARRIE WAS

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MENTIONING LAST WEEK, IF YOU ARE

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GOING TO TAKE A U.S. PRESIDENT,

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A FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT TO TRIAL

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FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME, IT

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BETTER BE SOMETHING THAT IS

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CRYSTAL CLEAR.

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IT HAS TO BE WE CAUGHT HIM

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TAKING $1 BILLION FOR SELLING

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NUCLEAR WEAPONS TO SOME COUNTRY.

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NOT FOR SOMETHING AS MURKY AS

09:08

THIS.

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JUDGE, GREAT TO SEE YOU AS

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ALWAYS.

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THANK YOU.

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>> AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU ONE

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THING.

09:14

NO ONE TIED DONALD TRUMP TO THAT

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BOOK COMPANY.

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NO O

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