Stephen A. Smith thinks CHANGE IS COMING for the Warriors πΏ | First Take
Summary
TLDRThe video script discusses the current state of the Golden State Warriors, highlighting their recent struggles and the need for change. Despite Steph Curry's continued high-level performance, the team has missed the playoffs three times in five years. The analysis points to the decline of Klay Thompson and the inconsistency of Andrew Wiggins as significant factors. The Warriors' management, including Joe Lacob, is expected to make strategic moves to improve the team, potentially involving salary cap adjustments and roster changes. The discussion also touches on the competitive landscape of the Western Conference, emphasizing the parity and the challenge the Warriors face to remain relevant. The consensus is that while the Warriors have shown growth, they have not met expectations for the season, and their failure to make the playoffs is considered a failure given their status as a contender.
Takeaways
- π The Golden State Warriors are seen as having failed this season because they did not make the playoffs despite high expectations.
- π΄ Aging key players like Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, and Draymond Green are a concern for the Warriors' future success.
- π Klay Thompson's performance has declined, and he may need to take a pay cut, potentially signaling a change in the team's dynamics.
- π° The Warriors, being a high-value team with significant payroll, are under pressure to get under the luxury tax threshold.
- π¨ Andrew Wiggins' inconsistent play and issues outside of basketball have been a point of discussion regarding the team's performance.
- π§ The team's management, particularly Joe Lacob, is expected to make changes to keep the Warriors competitive.
- π Despite missing the playoffs, there are signs of growth within the team, especially with younger players stepping up.
- π€ The Warriors' future success will depend on how they manage their roster and finances to remain competitive in a tough Western Conference.
- π³ The discussion suggests that to significantly improve, the Warriors may need to look at trading or restructuring deals involving high-profile players.
- π The Western Conference is highly competitive, with many teams on the rise, which could make it difficult for the Warriors to regain their former dominance.
- β° Time is of the essence for the Warriors, as they need to capitalize on Steph Curry's remaining prime years to achieve success.
Q & A
Do you think the Golden State Warriors are at the end of their era?
-Yes, it is suggested that the Warriors are at the end of their era as they have missed the playoffs three times in five years and are facing increased competition in the Western Conference.
What was Stephen A's opinion on Steph Curry's performance last night?
-Stephen A acknowledged Steph Curry as a superstar but mentioned a relatively pedestrian performance, hitting 50% of his shots and scoring 22 points, which wasn't enough to beat the Sacramento Kings.
What is Klay Thompson's current status in relation to the Warriors?
-Klay Thompson is approaching free agency, and while he is not performing at his peak, there are still many NBA teams that could use his services.
How many times have the Golden State Warriors missed the playoffs in the past five years?
-The Golden State Warriors have missed the playoffs three times in the past five years.
What is the record of the Warriors against the top six teams this year?
-The Warriors' record against the top six teams this year is 4 and 19.
How does Andrew Wiggins' inconsistency affect the Warriors' performance?
-Andrew Wiggins' inconsistency, along with family issues, affects the Warriors' performance as he is not always able to show up and contribute when needed.
What changes are expected for the Warriors in the future?
-Change is expected for the Warriors, with the possibility of roster adjustments, salary cap management, and potential retirements or departures of key players.
What is the financial situation of the Golden State Warriors?
-The Golden State Warriors are a $400 million team, including taxes, and there is a need to get under the luxury tax threshold.
What is the current stance of the Warriors regarding the luxury tax?
-The Warriors' owner, Joe Lacob, has stated on record that they need to get under the luxury tax, which may involve roster changes or salary adjustments.
What was the Warriors' record when Draymond Green played this year?
-The Warriors finished the season 27-12 when Draymond Green played.
How does the competition in the Western Conference affect the Warriors' chances?
-The increased competition in the Western Conference, with many talented teams, has elevated the level of play to a point where the Warriors might be left behind if they do not improve.
What is the final verdict on this season for the Warriors?
-The season is considered a failure for the Warriors as they did not make the postseason, despite having a better win-loss record than the previous season.
Outlines
π The Decline of the Warriors Dynasty
Stephen A discusses the potential end of the Golden State Warriors' dominance in basketball. He acknowledges the team's significant contributions to the sport and praises Steph Curry's performance, despite a less than stellar game against the Sacramento Kings. The conversation touches on Klay Thompson's upcoming free agency and his perceived decline in performance. The Warriors' recent playoff misses and poor record against top teams are highlighted as signs of a team in transition. The discussion also considers the inconsistency of Andrew Wiggins and the need for change within the team's roster and strategy to remain competitive in the Western Conference.
π Assessing the Warriors' Season and Future Prospects
The panelists debate whether the Warriors' season should be considered a failure for not making the playoffs, despite showing improvement over the previous year. They discuss the team's record with and without Draymond Green and the potential for growth with their young players. There's a recognition that the Western Conference has become more competitive, making it harder for the Warriors to stand out. Stephen A insists that not making the playoffs is a failure for a team with the Warriors' aspirations, while others argue that the team still has potential for growth and that missing the playoffs does not mean they are withering away.
π The Houston Rockets as a Success Story
Stephen A contrasts the Warriors' situation with that of the Houston Rockets, who are seen as a success story despite not winning a championship. He emphasizes the nuance in evaluating a team's season, acknowledging that success is not solely defined by winning a title. The conversation points out the tight competition in the Western Conference, where the difference between the top and bottom teams is minimal. Stephen A challenges the notion that failing to win a championship equates to failure, especially when considering the high expectations and the competitive landscape of the NBA.
Mindmap
Keywords
π‘Golden State Warriors
π‘Stephen Curry
π‘Klay Thompson
π‘Playoffs
π‘Luxury Tax
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π‘Andrew Wiggins
π‘Western Conference
π‘Chris Paul
π‘Draymond Green
π‘Youth Movement
π‘Free Agency
Highlights
Stephen A expresses that the Golden State Warriors may be at the end of their current era due to missing the playoffs for the third time in five years.
Stephen A acknowledges Steph Curry's continued superstar status despite a relatively pedestrian performance in a recent game.
Klay Thompson is approaching free agency, and there's a suggestion that he may not be the player he once was, with some teams still interested in his services.
The Warriors' record against the top six teams this year was 4 and 19, which is deemed unacceptable by Stephen A.
Andrew Wiggins is noted for his inconsistency and occasional lack of performance, despite his potential.
Stephen A predicts that changes are coming for the Warriors, as their current construction seems to be inadequate for competing in the Western Conference.
The Warriors' financial situation is discussed, with the team being a $400 million entity and needing to get under the luxury tax.
Stephen A suggests possible roster moves to improve the team's financial situation, including a potential pay cut for Klay Thompson.
The Warriors' season is characterized as a failure for not making the postseason, despite improvements over the previous year.
The growth potential of the Warriors' young players is acknowledged, but doubts are expressed about their ability to reach the team's previous heights.
The competition in the Western Conference is highlighted as having increased, potentially leaving the Warriors behind.
Stephen A argues that the Warriors' failure to make the playoffs is a significant setback, despite a better win record than the previous season.
The possibility of the Warriors making significant changes to their roster to improve is discussed, but doubts are expressed about this direction.
The potential for the Warriors to focus on improving around the edges with their current roster is mentioned as a more likely scenario.
Stephen A emphasizes that in the NBA, for a team with the Warriors' aspirations, not making the playoffs equates to a failed season.
The Houston Rockets are cited as a success story in contrast to the Warriors' season, highlighting the nuance in evaluating team performance.
The discussion touches on the Warriors' potential future without major roster changes, suggesting that their chances of winning another NBA Championship are slim.
Transcripts
Stephen A do you feel like this is the
end of the Warriors as we know them yes
it has to be um you know major props and
an incredible level of gratitude needs
to be given to them to what for what
they've meant to the game of basketball
Steph Curry is still a superstar make no
mistake about it um relatively
pedestrian performance last night hit
50% of his shots uh from the field went
three to seven from three-point range
only finished with 22 points you were
going to need more than that to beat the
Sacramento Kings last night Klay
Thompson obviously approaching free
agency um I think it was um I I don't
want to call it poetic because uh I
certainly don't want to sit up there and
and TR try to imply anything negative of
this four-time champion and one of the
greatest Shooters we have ever seen But
there is no doubt that he has fallen off
to some degree I still think a boatload
of teams in the NBA could use his
Services um he ain't going anywh he's
not going to retire but is he what he
used to be the answer to that question
question is no um when you look at the
Golden State Warriors we have to think
from an overview perspective Wendy and
doggy this is the third time in five
years they've missed the playoffs the
third time in five years now I know Joe
Lake up and Peter goober a little bit
and I can tell you something about Joe
lob Ain't Gonna Stand still I promise
you that I haven't spoken to him in a
while but I'm telling you I know this
man well enough to tell you he is not
going to stand still um and just let
these Twilight years of Steph Curry's
career Fade Into Oblivion like this this
is the third time in 5 years the Golden
State Warriors have missed the playoffs
I understand they got a championship
recently but it's still three times in
five years you've missed the playoffs
and by the way against the top six teams
this year their record is 4 and 19 if I
remember correctly 4 and 19 that's
unacceptable that's unacceptable and so
sometimes in life listen business will
be the first to tell us you got to see
the forest from the trees you got to you
got to read the tea leaves you got to
see what's coming down the pike well
this has been coming down for quite a
long time you got a guy on Andrew
Wiggins that you know when he's there
and he's and he's vibrant he can do some
big time things far more often than not
he's inconsistent or dare I say an
absolute positive noshow family issues
and things of that nature I get it but
at the end of the day whole bunch of
folks in this country and throughout
this world got issues they still show up
to work sometimes he does sometimes he
doesn't and so we look at it from that
perspective we look at it from Klay
Thompson's perspective we look at the
youth movement that they have and you've
got some talent but clearly when you
look at the rest of the West as Wendy
alluded to yesterday there's a whole
bunch of talent throughout the Western
Conference and people seem to more
competition seems to have elevated to
the point where the Golden State
Warriors are on the verge of being left
behind Joe Lup is not going to stand for
that I can promise you that there's no
way that this is going to stand Pat the
end of The Warriors as we know it this
isn't the end of The Warriors because
they still got Steph Curry but as we
know it as we see them presently
constructed it's a wrap trust me on this
change is coming yeah so it's
interesting you brought up about how
clay has receded there's no doubt about
that he wasn't a $43 million max player
in terms of production this year which
is why he's going to take a pay cut
probably in Golden State but maybe
elsewhere what they had done when they
won their championship two years ago is
they'd gotten this incredible rise from
Andrew Wiggins he's receded himself so
the problem here is is that even though
Steph Curry is still playing at all NBA
level what you need to compete in the
Western Conference this high level of
assistant Talent just isn't there so so
if if it's not going to improve I don't
think with Wiggins and and clay maybe
they can get more back to where they
were but I don't think you can bet on
that so the question really becomes guys
what does the ownership do because one
of the things that is that is an issue
here this is a $400 million team $380
million when you include the taxes what
Joe Lup has said on the record is that
they need to get under the luxury tax
and not just because they tired of
spending money although I wouldn't blame
them if they were if they had a team
that they spent this much money on that
didn't even make the playoffs I would
understand why they wouldn't want to run
that back but doing what they need to do
to get under the tax which is very
doable by the way you have a non-g
guaranteed contract on Chris Paul for 30
1 million you just say thank you and
goodbye you get Klay Thompson to take a
pretty big pay cut I mean in all honesty
he should come down at least 20 million
is you can you can negotiate that right
there that's $50 million right there
that puts you in a whole different
Stratosphere and you open up some other
options but if you're talking about not
standing Pat stepen a the only way to
really bring in major Talent with where
they're at right now is to keep that
Chris Paul contract add the young
players that you've got and a couple of
future draft picks that you've got and
go out into the marketplace star hunting
and I'm just not sure that that's where
this team is going to go I think what
they're more likely to do is to say hey
we finished the season 27- 12 when
Draymond played this year we were 33 and
22 when he didn't play we were under 500
in those 20 games with the suspension
and the return from that if we get
Draymond to not get suspended for 20
games next year and we you know can
improve around the edges we can still be
competitive I think that's more likely
as opposed to them going hunting in the
market but I have to acknowledge that
that is still possible if they're
willing to
spend uh real quick would you
characterize this season as a failure
for the Warriors I wouldn't and I know
that that really fired up Stephen A and
Shannon yesterday here's the thing let
me just ask you this question really
basic was this season or last season
better for the
Warriors I didn't hear your question Jo
uh uh Wendy because the producer was in
my ear could you ask that again please
what what what where the Warriors better
this season or last
season they were better this season
especially on the road that's right they
were a better team this season they won
more games despite the Draymond
situation than they did last season now
now you would say well how could it how
could you possibly say that because
they're home they didn't even make the
playoffs last year they made the second
round and you know went out in that
tough Series against LeBron MH but they
were a better team this year they
actually were their their numbers were
better they had more wins the
circumstances with the suspension and
the strength of the West pulled them
back but that but but the idea that
they're withering I don't they're
withering compared to where they were in
22 when they won they're withering with
where they were in 2018 I'll agree with
you there but this team actually is
growing they had four young guys 22 23
old and younger who play key roles on
this team none of them are going to be
Hall of Famers I don't think none of
them are going Steph none of them are
going to be number two on a champ ship
team those guys should get better like I
know that we're today it's very it's
very comfortable just to say well it's
over but this team still has growth
potential just not to where they were in
18 no no no see see see see that's you
being the astute NBA analyst who by the
way is also an incredibly nice guy
America an incredibly nice guy you say
I'm a little bit more harsh than you
it's about the competition
so I get what you're saying about them
but you can't in the same breath sit on
National Television like you did
yesterday with me and Shannon talking
about the parity that exists within the
Western Conference looking at Phoenix
looking at Dallas looking at the
Clippers looking at Sacramento I'm sorry
yeah Sacramento still the mix looking at
Minnesota and and Oklahoma City along
with Denver and just literally all of a
sudden a day later judge the Golden
State Warriors in the vacuum I know
they've gotten better but in the end who
are you going against and how much
better will they get how much better has
the competition gotten that's where we
are with this and by the way let me be
very clear to the Golden State Warriors
The Season's a failure The Season's a
failure because you didn't make the
postseason I understand you got better I
say you look better than you did last
year 46 and 36 10 games over 500 ain't
nothing to sneeze at you were
considerably better on the road this
year than you were last year I get all
of that you're home when the playoffs
begin this weekend that is the
definition of failure in the National
Basketball Association for a playoff
Contender now if you stink and you're
one of the you're in purgatory and then
you improve that's different but when
the expectation is postseason and you
don't make it you have failed
the Warriors are not that's it it's over
Curry's old Thompson's not as good as he
was Green's old they got no draft
Capital they they're not going to be
able to bring a free agent you can tell
me more about that than I know so as a
result we're and the OKC's good
Minnesota's not going anywhere Houston's
going to get better San Antonio
eventually win some games I mean you
certainly got Denver I mean so there's a
lot of good teams so from that
standpoint it's finished for Golden
State they're now winning another NBA
step Curry unless it gets traded he is
not winning another NBA Championship in
San Francisco and go one step further
he's not playing in a conference final
and he's great we all know it he's it's
it's over he is not ever going to play
again in a Conference Final in the west
I'll make that by the way you brought
you bringing up your scenario for a team
that did not make the playoffs you want
me to tell you who's a success story
thus far this year who's that the
Houston Rockets I agree with that I
agree with that that's a success
you see on the where they were to where
they are successful season I Stephen A
what you're talking about there is
Nuance you can because you can look at
the Rockets with nuance and
understanding and say they did a great
job this year you can look at the
Warriors and say they achieved this year
but it didn't work out because of these
four things it's not you win the title
or you're
awful sometimes you can have a
successful season and things don't go
your way the difference between the
number two team in the west which is
whoever you want under Denver and the
number 10 team is negligible but Wendy
anybody in this Western Conference other
than whoever than than than the Lakers
in Denver anybody wins to me there's no
such thing as an upset other than the
Lakers there's no upset all those teams
are the same and the Warriors this year
10th ever ever ever on air I've never
insulted you in all the years I've known
you because I love you to death I've
never insulted you one time Wendy I'm
going to I'm going to do that right now
you just imitated some damn troll on
Twitter I never said you win a
championship or you're a failure I
didn't say that that's right you see how
you twisted that I didn't say that those
words never came modern NBA fandom
unfortunately operates all the time all
right I'm just saying but Moder day NBA
fandom ain't this they ain't me and you
talking on first tank you understand
what I'm saying this is this is this is
who we are I'm saying to you the Golden
State Warriors the expectation was
playoffs if the expectation is playoffs
and you don't make it you have failed I
didn't say Championship I said if you
missed the playoffs and you're the
Warriors you have failed now the reasons
why could be the reasons why you can
bring up Draymond you can bring up Clay
I can bring up Andrew Wiggins if the man
had done something consistently I think
they would have been there I love kaming
and pinski growth no doubt about it I
like Moody a lot I see the young I see
the Young Dudes I get it but the
expectation with a superstar who's
playing like a superstar is to at least
make the playoffs not the Conference
Finals not the finals not wi the
championship just make the playoffs
especially when you got 10 teams that
got a chance because of the playin and
they didn't do
it period And if Draymond didn't get
suspended they probably do and they're
down one but he always gets suspended
that's you can't say if he does and he
always does because he's also played
great in finals and been a big factor
that's the thing that's age that's why
we go through this whole thing that's
why there's 30 teams not two yep
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